cheerios
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Post by cheerios on Sept 18, 2009 0:55:01 GMT -5
Was amazed at how good a singer/dancer Puck is. I could see Puck being gay as well or least being really repressed because there is a part of him that is open to it. Though I do think he is still very much into girls.
Good for Kurt for telling someone, and can see why he likes Finn. I hope Finn handles it well when he finds out. I have a friend like Kurt, who everyone already knew before he told us. So I'm a bit surprised that no one already thinks he's gay.
And Will is just delicious, no wonder so many women love him and want him to want them back.
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Post by Bonobochick on Sept 18, 2009 1:52:38 GMT -5
Rachel and Tina obviously think Kurt's gay judging from them staging the gay intervention with Mercedes. I mean Rachel has 2 gay dads who raised her so I am sure she was clued in pretty early since it's not like Kurt isn't rather obvious.
I don't know about the others but let's just say I don't think anyone would be surprised by the revelation. I think deep down Mercedes did know the truth before the reveal and the gayvention but she was lonely and Kurt showed her some fun/attention and she tried to convince herself it was more than it was.
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Post by davedoty on Sept 18, 2009 9:13:04 GMT -5
Someone on AfterElton made a good point. Her like to Quinn and the Things that she didn't think she was his type may have been a suggestion that she suspected consciously, until the cheerleaders planted all these hopes and fantasies in her head, and let her desperation and lonlieness do the rest.
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Post by hach on Sept 18, 2009 11:12:47 GMT -5
I'm so sad they made Puck so blatantly straight. That man is so fine, I really wanted him to be a closet case for Kurt. Alas, he's a Cougar-lover ;*(. Again, that man is so fine. Puck is fine and all but I really like Finn (Cory Monteith) most, he's so adorable. I liked Cory since Kyle XY even though his character Charlie was a homophobic jerk. Anyway, I'm looking forward to seeing how Finn will react when Kurt lets the cat out of the bag. While Finn isn't the brightest bulb in the box, he does seem to be more reasonable and open-minded than his jock friends. |
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Post by overtherainbow on Sept 18, 2009 11:58:46 GMT -5
I liked the last episode, it was funny! Josh Groban was hilarious. The moment between Mercedes and Kurt was so good. I like that Kurt is this confident character, but at the same time not.. He's a much more complex character than people give him credit for.
The only thing I have a problem with is the songs. They are good, but they sound too much like they came from a studio recording. They don't sound real, if you know what I mean..
Anyways, I still like the show, and next week should be good! I can't wait.
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Post by Nitty on Sept 18, 2009 12:54:49 GMT -5
I liked the last ep, but not as much as the first two. Here's hoping the next one is great! I can see why Kurt would have a crush on Finn. He's sweet and cute...and on the first two eps, he seemed to be the only jock not taking pleasure in dumping Kurt into that dumpster. He even held his sweater for him, so it wouldn't get dirty.  |
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Post by ivaniv on Sept 22, 2009 10:30:29 GMT -5
I watched the pilot and the first episode following the buzz here, but it does nothing for me. One less show to watch I guess ;D
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Post by amber80 on Sept 22, 2009 11:51:41 GMT -5
Ah well, you can't all like the same things...  |
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Post by Bonobochick on Sept 22, 2009 12:05:08 GMT -5
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Post by amber80 on Sept 22, 2009 15:36:15 GMT -5
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Post by ilovethegays on Sept 22, 2009 19:08:25 GMT -5
yayyyyyyy for Glee!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by Bonobochick on Sept 22, 2009 19:57:20 GMT -5
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Post by Bonobochick on Sept 23, 2009 21:30:07 GMT -5
Tonight was good and much more even than last week's. Beyonce made some money tonight! Glad Kurt came out to his father, to no surprise of his father. I think the conversation was honest in that he loves his son but isn't totally comfortable. Seeing how flannel, football & beer his dad is, I thought his acceptance was done nicely and I was surprised that it wasn't a problem because of the way Kurt was so afraid to come out to him before. So Quinn got knocked up by Puck(!) and is passing it off as Finn's. I can honestly say I didn't see that one. Until she or Puck admit the truth, both are on my shit list. Finn's too nice a guy to deserve that lie messing up his life. I am torn on Rachel. I get where she's coming from and how much she wants it but it can't always be about her. She needs to see that. At the same time, I think she had a valid point about Mr. Schü seeming to do things he knows will make her feel alienated but helping others feel better about themselves. To Rachel, singing/theatre is the only thing she excels at so wanting it so much, especially when the rest of your [high school] life is shitty, I can see why she fights for it more than the others. The preview for next week has me counting down the days. |
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Post by amber80 on Sept 24, 2009 10:24:08 GMT -5
I just watched yesterday's show and I loved it! Thought it was better than than last week. (Last week was good too, but this week was better  ) Absolutely LOVED the football routine. ;D And Kurt coming out to his dad was very sweet and very real. Well done... The pregnancy story is really interesting. Although I hope Finn finds out real soon, because he is too sweet a guy indeed to be played like that. Rachel had little love from me this week. |
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Post by Bonobochick on Sept 24, 2009 10:46:45 GMT -5
sidwich posted this on TWOP to a comment I made about Rachel that explains why Will's deafness to what she's saying is being overlooked because she is a diva:
Someone upthread wrote that Will didn't owe Rachel anything, and I disagree. Glee is an extracurricular activity, Will is the teacher and Rachel is the student. If Will is really going to teach in Glee, he does owe Rachel a chance to develop her talent as much as anyone else. That does not mean giving her every lead, but it does mean giving her a chance to be her best on something, and that is not the tone of what Will is telling her at all.
I think if he searched deep in his heart as a teacher, he'd probably have to agree that for Rachel, of course playing the lead in "Cabaret" is something she should do. It is a great opportunity for her, and it is very unrealistic of him to expect her to do Glee with the little attention she's getting from him and give up doing "Cabaret." Rachel is conceited and self-absorbed, but she was very rational in the conversation she had with him. She deserves to have a reason to stay in Glee as much as anyone else.
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Post by amber80 on Sept 24, 2009 11:07:36 GMT -5
I do agree to a certain point, but I also think something like Glee club and things similar is also about team work. She also has to learn that it's not just about her and what she wants. Sometimes you have to give others a chance as well. And I feel that teaching her that is also part of Will's job. Glee club is not all about achieving your goals, but also about having fun.
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Post by GayTime on Sept 24, 2009 11:17:00 GMT -5
Kurt's coming out & the whole football storyline were done well. I know music licensing is expensive, but they should really refrain from using only 1 song through the entire episode. I'm done with Single Ladies for a while :-)). If they had a 'Which character would you most likely want to see die a horrible on-screen death a la Melissa on THE OC?' it would be a hard choice between Rachel and Will's wife for me. Rachel irritated me so much yesterday with her ME ME ME attitude. I'm not a fan. I liked Finn's initial 'I already have a date to prom' response when Kurt asked him for a favor. Finn's got his heart in the right place, but boy ain't got any rhythm. All in all, the best GLEE episode to date. Now where is Volchek to get rid of Rachel??  |
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Post by amber80 on Sept 24, 2009 11:24:05 GMT -5
Ah yes! Finn's reponse to Kurt was great! |
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Post by Bonobochick on Sept 24, 2009 11:44:09 GMT -5
I do agree to a certain point, but I also think something like Glee club and things similar is also about team work. She also has to learn that it's not just about her and what she wants. Sometimes you have to give others a chance as well. And I feel that teaching her that is also part of Will's job. Glee club is not all about achieving your goals, but also about having fun. Agreed but she's not obviously not having fun, which is something Mr. Schue said would occur. So he's definitely dropped the ball on that. And she was going to leave to focus on Cabaret and he sought her out to get her to stay and she flat out told him "you're making me feel like shit while you're making everyone else feel like gold" and he disregarded it. I think Will only sees what she's saying about feeling badly being about the solos and I think it's much more than that.  Plus I am surprised he's so deaf to that considering he knows Sue had Sandy poach Rachel for Cabaret as a way to steal "glee club's best singer" and destroy the club yet he goes right on trucking in basically helping Sue. Will's so intent on wanting other members to feel motivation/fun that he's deaf to what he doesn't understand or want to hear. It's just like with his determination to perform "Le Freak" even though it was terrible, dated and no one wanted to do it but he wouldn't hear anything that wasn't support of it.  Part of why I think he's refusing to give Rachel solos is not about wanting to motivate others but also because she went against him with arranging glee club to perform "Push It". He said as much at the end of episode 2. Like I said before, I think Rachel can be obnoxious and self-centered but that doesn't automatically make her in the wrong. It's like some of the responses I've read are people are compassionate to Quinn cause she's 16, pregnant after a drunken one night stand and it's understandable that she is lying about the cheating and the baby's real father but they come down on Rachel because she's arrogant and self-absorbed about wanting solos in glee club. I find it interesting that lying and trapping a genuinely nice guy over a drunken mistake with another guy is more forgivable or more deserving of compassion or more undertandable than being made to feel shitty about oneself regarding the only thing one had any confidence in having in an ass-backward attempt by another person to make others feel more like stars. I think Will has a responsibility to all the students in glee club and it's great that he's able to help the others but at what point does he realize that what works for them needs tweaking when it comes to Rachel? I think that is why he couldn't answer any of her calmly composed questions at the ballet practice. |
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Post by hach on Sept 24, 2009 17:08:34 GMT -5
I liked Finn's initial 'I already have a date to prom' response when Kurt asked him for a favor. That and Puck's "I knew it! You're in love with Kurt!" have got to be the best quotes from this episode. ;D Pity Kurt denied being a "teen gay". Now that he knows that Finn suspected it anyway and was pretty cool about it, his coming out could have been easy-peasy. He has a crush on Finn of course, which makes it a bit more complicated. Finn is such a good guy, I'm growing on him he's growin on me with every episode. He deserves so much better than Puck's two-faced ways and Quinn's deception!  PS: Anti-embolism stockings ftw! |
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Post by overtherainbow on Sept 25, 2009 3:27:39 GMT -5
I loved Kurt, and I loved the last episode. Perhaps the best episode of Glee so far this season!
The scene with Kurt and his dad was very emotional and very real. It was just a great scene to watch.
Can't wait to see more of Kurt in future episodes!
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Post by Bonobochick on Sept 25, 2009 11:46:38 GMT -5
the Canadian trailer for the Sept 30th ep:
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Post by fnord on Sept 30, 2009 1:05:11 GMT -5
I do agree to a certain point, but I also think something like Glee club and things similar is also about team work. She also has to learn that it's not just about her and what she wants. Sometimes you have to give others a chance as well. And I feel that teaching her that is also part of Will's job. Glee club is not all about achieving your goals, but also about having fun. I have to agree with amber80 here. Rachel's good, yes. The best, possibly so. But that doesn't mean she should get everything she wants, just because she wants it. Being good at something also means knowing when you can or should take a step back to let others enjoy doing what you enjoy doing, too. This was the episode where I had to just say to myself that the show wasn't a drama or a comedy, but a full-on fantasy. The over-the-top reactions from various characters (Sue, the cheerleader coach, goes way beyond the pale; and I include Rachel in the list, too), plus the outrageous plot-twists (Puck slept with Quinn, who's lying to Finn saying that it's his child, which Mr. Shue's wife wants to get for her own so she can keep him interested in her) just scream out DRAMA! But, yeah, I loved Finn's reaction to Kurt. Just so matter-of-fact and cool-with-it. I'm just hoping that it's not Quinn that Kurt has the crush on, that would just be too terribly cliche, the gay boy who falls for his straight guy friend with whom he has no chance. C'mon, give us something more interesting! On the other hand, I would totally love to see Kurt falling for Puck. The contradictions between those two would fuel angst and drama and comedy and love and all sorts of fun things! Not to mention, Puck has a mighty fine body, and could stand to have more shirtless scenes. |
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Post by jblaze08 on Sept 30, 2009 3:48:43 GMT -5
Everytime I watch Glee it gets better and better each episode having me wanting more.
Last episode had so much stuff happen kurt coming out, finn & quinn & puck pregnant thing ( I hope in tonights episode that they tell him cause he's too good of a person for something like that to happen to him)--racheal over-reacting cause Mr. Shu( I think I spelled it right) didn't give her the lead part then her quiting was over the top..
I agree with fnord on this one.. Just because you are good at doing something and even better than others doesn't mean she has to hog the spotlight and if he were to give racheal every part that she wanted then nobody else with be able to get their moment and they won't get the chance to reach their full potential But maybe that's just my opinion..
But still love all of the characters..
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Post by Bonobochick on Sept 30, 2009 12:07:03 GMT -5
I totally disagree in that when they've performed, usually with choreography by Rachel and song choices picked by others except for "Push It", it's been an ensemble with multiple solos, so when I see commentary that she hogs the spotlight, I wonder when that has happened for performances?  She may want to be the star but when New Directions performs, she's done the ensemble without issue. And I still think that some of the problems could have been avoided if Will had handled things better. The spiral started with his unwillingness to hear anyone state that "LeFreak" was a bad decision and taking the DSB solo as punishment. I had no problem with Will giving Tina the solo for WSS but taking away DSB was a bad move. Also, the club is not fun for everyone. I still find it interesting that folks find Rachel's arrogance more egregious than Puck & Quinn's respective lies and bullying. I find the latter two's actions much more offensive but people seem to want to excuse Quinn & Puck for their bad actions while harping on Rachel's ego facade. Clips from tonight's episode: forums.televisionwithoutpity.com/index.php?s=&showtopic=3188556&view=findpost&p=12199711  |
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Plus I am surprised he's so deaf to that considering he knows Sue had Sandy poach Rachel for Cabaret as a way to steal "glee club's best singer" and destroy the club yet he goes right on trucking in basically helping Sue.
Part of why I think he's refusing to give Rachel solos is not about wanting to motivate others but also because she went against him with arranging glee club to perform "Push It". He said as much at the end of episode 2. 
She may want to be the star but when New Directions performs, she's done the ensemble without issue. 