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Post by kevvoi on Jan 29, 2018 17:34:09 GMT -5
New clip courtesy of Joshua-Wayne - the farewell to Johnny:
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Post by justinate on Jan 30, 2018 11:21:53 GMT -5
Sad really that Johnny had absolutely nothing to do since he was recast.
But yeah, this show is done. Officially a gay-free zone.
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Post by hfolk on Jan 30, 2018 11:49:34 GMT -5
Sad really that Johnny had absolutely nothing to do since he was recast. But yeah, this show is done. Officially a gay-free zone. I don't see what the point of having Johnny brought back if they had no plan on how to use him
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Post by carld2 on Jan 31, 2018 3:39:29 GMT -5
I don't see what the point of having Johnny brought back if they had no plan on how to use him The outgoing producer at the time had created the character and probably knew no one else would bring him back, or would bring him back with an actor he hadn't chosen. It certainly wasn't because of any story plans. The show clearly never had any real plan for Johnny. That's what happens when you create a character based on yourself. The show is not only shunning lgbt characters, it's also openly embracing racism. It's become trash.
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Post by justinate on Jan 31, 2018 8:38:35 GMT -5
I don't see what the point of having Johnny brought back if they had no plan on how to use him It's true that Dominic Treadwell-Collins who created the character and based it on himself made the decision to recast Johnny in April 2016. He also made the decision to bring back Steven Beale, one month later. Johnny and Steven shared a scene in the pub where Steven was clearly eyeing up Johnny. I am absolutely certain that Dominic did not intend to straight-wash Steven into being exclusively into women, when the character's angst on his previous run (with the same actor) had been primarily fueled by his same-sex attraction. The summer of 2016 had a big story for another gay couple (the fatal gay-bashing of Paul) in which Johnny played a crucial supporting role, while Steven was revealed to be in a relationship with his brother's ex-girlfriend and baby-mama. My guess is that Steven would have eventually tired of playing house with Lauren and baby Louie, and cheated on her with Johnny, which would have caused tension since Johnny and Lauren were supposed to be friends. However, the change of executive producer which occurred that autumn meant that the story went in a different direction. Under Sean O'Connor, Steven did cheat on Lauren - but with her sister Abi - before being killed off. And Johnny got absolutely nothing to do. For a whole year under SOC, there were technically four gay/bi male characters on screen (including Derek) but none of them were in a same-sex relationship. It was only towards the end of SOC's run that he revealed Luke Browning was gay and the eldest son of Ben's mother's rapist - but the switch of executive producer again meant this story went nowhere. John Yorke has simply sealed the fate of these characters - instead of having them stand around with nothing to do, he wrote them all out.
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Post by justinate on Feb 8, 2018 10:24:26 GMT -5
For what it's worth, there's a gay couple appearing as the potential adoptive parents of Daisy, the foster child of Syed Masood's great-uncle and great-aunt. Dan and Ashley are guest characters at best but they've put in a few appearances. I suspect this is the best we can hope for in terms of gay representation.
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Post by mrfixit477 on Apr 18, 2018 13:38:30 GMT -5
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Post by carld2 on May 19, 2018 8:13:24 GMT -5
Loved this.
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Post by justinate on Jun 5, 2018 8:48:18 GMT -5
It looks like EE is going the lesbian route again (with Keanu's sister, no less). Never mind that they already have two lesbian/bi women on the cast who seem to have become entirely heterosexual, and absolutely NO gay or bi men.
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Post by dmagiclight on Jun 5, 2018 15:16:09 GMT -5
I stopped watching ages ago
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Post by carld2 on Jan 12, 2019 4:34:40 GMT -5
The closest we'll get to gay men on Eastenders...
(I know the actors are straight)
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Post by HQ75 on Jan 15, 2019 17:19:00 GMT -5
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Post by justinate on Jan 16, 2019 9:40:22 GMT -5
The show has a number of lesbian/bi female characters and it's already been said that one of them (Johnny Carter's great-aunt Tina) will be involved in the gay bar. I'm sure there'll be gay men in the background of the bar set but as it stands, there haven't been any announcements of casting, recasts or returns of male characters who might plausibly be queer.
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Post by hfolk on Jan 16, 2019 10:55:26 GMT -5
I'm sorry, but I never felt Ted Reilly's Johnny was attractive
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Post by justinate on Jan 20, 2019 9:46:46 GMT -5
The first casting news of Kate Oates' era that is male, but still no gays - unless Sean Slater has discovered his bi side during his time away. (Anyway it's only a short stint.)
Lofty is also making a guest appearance for a funeral - it's worth noting that EE originally wanted him to be part of the show's first gay pairing with Dot Branning's son Nick Cotton, but the Nick actor refused to play it.
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Post by overtherainbow on Jan 20, 2019 12:05:23 GMT -5
Sad really that Johnny had absolutely nothing to do since he was recast. But yeah, this show is done. Officially a gay-free zone. I personally didn't like the recast. I was not impressed with his acting, imo he couldn't act for shit. Also, the last Johnny was much hotter.
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Post by antistatic on Jan 20, 2019 18:17:54 GMT -5
Ben Mitchell is coming back. He'lll now be played by former Waterloo Road star Max Bowden instead of Harry Reid.
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Post by mrfixit477 on Jan 20, 2019 20:48:51 GMT -5
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Post by hfolk on Jan 20, 2019 21:18:10 GMT -5
surprising they didn't go with a specific look since all the recent Bens have looked the same, but this one is quite handsome
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Post by justinate on Jan 20, 2019 22:37:20 GMT -5
I think it'll depend on how they choose to style him too. Will Ben have started wearing contact lenses? Looking at some of his more recent pics on his Instagram (the one above is from a few years ago when he first debuted on Waterloo Rd), it feels like they're aging Ben up a bit. http://instagram.com/p/BjnKM19Bc6U [Check out his singing; boy has got some pipes.] Anyway, I'm just glad there's a gay back in town - although based on the timelines for the other casting news, it doesn't sound like he'll appear until summer? Hopefully he brings a boyfriend with him because Albert Square is still devoid of gays.
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Post by justinate on Jan 21, 2019 5:01:04 GMT -5
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Post by kevvoi on Mar 31, 2019 8:52:51 GMT -5
Anthony posted a clip that shows a little back-story for Ben's return to the show next week:
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Post by kevvoi on Apr 1, 2019 20:45:09 GMT -5
New clip courtesy of Anthony:
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Post by kevvoi on Apr 2, 2019 17:13:50 GMT -5
Next part courtesy of Anthony:
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Post by kevvoi on Apr 4, 2019 21:14:40 GMT -5
New clip courtesy of Anthony:
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