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Post by jjose712 on Jun 24, 2013 5:43:21 GMT -5
I'm quite happy that Lucas (and Menno) are not going to jump.
It sounds like a really good cliffhanger
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Post by Hawthorne on Jun 24, 2013 19:17:21 GMT -5
I like your theory, Mark. I wonder if Mike could actually die. I think his purpose on the show has run its course, so maybe he will be leaving after all. They'd of course want to keep that secret.
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Post by GTSTfanMark on Jun 25, 2013 0:24:06 GMT -5
The thing is... I believe Louis has been filming this week. So I don't think Mike's going to die.
It's also possible Rikki will get hurt and be offscreen for a while. Her 3 month break should be coming soon.
We do know Sjoerd will be offscreen for a couple of months. That was confirmed by RTL Boulevard. I think it's possible Joep and Cynthia were given permanent contracts because they're a little older. That way Anton and Bianca don't have to leave.
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Post by Hawthorne on Jun 27, 2013 22:21:49 GMT -5
I've been thinking about this. While there's good logic that points to Mike being the victim, I wonder if Mike being in mortal danger is compelling enough to be the season's cliff hanger. Mike isn't a very sympathetic character. If his parachute doesn't open and it looks like he will die, most of the audience will probably shrug. Nina's parachute not opening, on the other hand, would be a lot more compelling. It's a common dramatic device, of course, to put women in life-threatening situations because it tends to generate more emotion. So I think there's a greater chance that one of the women on the jump will have the faulty parachute. If it is Nina, both Mike and Wiet would be suspects. If it is Wiet, Nina and Lorena would be suspects. With Lorena, it would be Wiet and Mike. Nuran is a possibility mainly because it would be so ironic if Aysen's scheme ended up almost killing her own sister and it could set up drama between the sisters next season. I don't think it will be Nuran, though. Nor Rikki, Lorena, or Wiet.
Is Bing's girlfriend, Monica, going to be part of the jump? If so, as the only expendable guest character, she's in grave danger of winding up dead, IMO.
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Post by GTSTfanMark on Jun 28, 2013 0:28:03 GMT -5
I think we won't know who's in danger and who isn't. Just like last year there's going to be a mobile app this summer. Last year it was all about Tim, this year it's about the group making the parachute jump. The app is called Spring Levend. The two words together ('springlevend') translates to 'very much alive'. The literal translation of the two words apart would be 'jump alive'. It looks like players of this app will get clues about what exactly happened during that parachute jump and who survives and who won't. Just to be clear: it hasn't been confirmed that someone dies, but I think it's definitely possible. Earlier I said I thought Louis was still filming. This was only based on a tweet he posted where he said he drove from Amsterdam to Rotterdam. It could be Mike, but it could just as easily be one of the others. I know Pip (Wiet) was filming yesterday but like I said, it hasn't been confirmed that someone dies so it could be Wiet as well. We'll see.  The characters who are going to jump out of that plane: Noud, Nina, Maxime, Nuran, Aysen, Lorena, Wiet, Rikki and Mike. I thought Rik and Bing would jump as well. Maybe they will, but they're not in this group photo:  It looks like none of the guest characters will jump. Monica is pregnant so it would be unexpected if she would jump out of a plane in her condition. |
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Post by Hawthorne on Jun 28, 2013 8:20:58 GMT -5
If it happens like you say, then this is probably how Mike checks out.
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Post by GTSTfanMark on Jun 28, 2013 8:46:14 GMT -5
I'm not sure. A while ago they did say Mike would leave temporarily because Louis was going to be in a musical. And this was supposed to happen in early 2014. He would have to leave during the rehearsal period and then he would be able to combine it with GTST. Louis even compared it to Ferry's role in Wicked. I think all options (well, not all options but a lot of options) are still open. Maybe there's going to be more than one victim. Who knows?  Right now I'm just happy Lucas and Menno aren't jumping out of that plane.  |
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Post by dalphine on Jun 28, 2013 9:44:15 GMT -5
I want to see more of Lucas and Menno.
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Post by GTSTfanMark on Jun 28, 2013 9:45:47 GMT -5
They're back on tonight's episode.
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Post by dalphine on Jun 28, 2013 11:54:13 GMT -5
Thanks Mark for the info.
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Post by daleeryohm on Jul 4, 2013 16:29:39 GMT -5
Ha. So where is everyone?
Just watched the shortie for the season finale, and yeah, it's all cast and no guest characters or extras jumping from the plane. And we see from Rik's POV, as he's ridden up on a motorcycle onto one of the plane runways, that in the distance someone plummets to their death.
Is him watching significant, like is that a clue it's Nuran? Or, and I'm sure they used stunt doubles for the skydive scenes, but the genders should match up, so whoever's parachute didn't deploy looks to be male, and that would mean either Noud or Mike.
I don't really have a hunch of who it actually is though, lol.
I'm just grateful to that neither Lucas nor Menno were jumping.
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Post by music on Jul 4, 2013 16:38:23 GMT -5
Ha. So where is everyone? Just watched the shortie for the season finale, and yeah, it's all cast and no guest characters or extras jumping from the plane. And we see from Rik's POV, as he's ridden up on a motorcycle onto one of the plane runways, that in the distance someone plummets to their death. Is him watching significant, like is that a clue it's Nuran? Or, and I'm sure they used stunt doubles for the skydive scenes, but the genders should match up, so whoever's parachute didn't deploy looks to be male, and that would mean either Noud or Mike. I don't really have a hunch of who it actually is though, lol. I'm just grateful to that neither Lucas nor Menno were jumping. Yeah, I saw the plummet...the landing was brutal. |
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Post by GTSTfanMark on Jul 4, 2013 16:49:13 GMT -5
I've watched the complete episode. Loved. It.  That last scene with one of them plummeting to their death was indeed brutal. Unfortunately no scenes of Lucas and Menno together but it's good to see them anyway. In the episode Rik wakes up next to a woman he doesn't know. This character is probably going to stick around for a while, because she's played by the well-known musical actress Celine Purcell (she's Ferry's former colleague since she played the role of Glinda in Wicked). |
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Post by daleeryohm on Jul 4, 2013 16:54:13 GMT -5
But so definitely someone dies. There's no surviving that.
Who do you think it was, Mark?
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Post by GTSTfanMark on Jul 4, 2013 17:20:03 GMT -5
There are several possible victims: Mike, Aysen, Nina, Wiet... They all made one or more enemies. But if the parachutes got mixed up it could be anyone. And like you said, they probably used a stunt double so I don't think we can draw any conclusions from that. |
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Post by daleeryohm on Jul 4, 2013 18:47:13 GMT -5
It wouldn't mind it being either Aysen, Wiet, Mike, Nuran, or Lorena.
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Post by Hawthorne on Jul 4, 2013 18:59:12 GMT -5
If it's Noud, my life will be over. But it won't be Noud. Too much story revolves around him and he's a fan favorite. Same with Nina. Lorena is probably safe, too, since she's the #2 fan favorite. Plus, I just can't possibly be that lucky! Much of next season is likely to involve the bringing down of Aysen, so she is likely not the one. She's probably the one who sabotaged the parachute, but Bing is not on the jump so I'm not sure who Aysen would be trying to kill. Perhaps Bing was supposed to be part of the jump, but got detained by Menno at the last minute. The only person who Aysen might like to kill on the jump is Lorena, but I don't think there's a big enough rationale for her to want to. Aysen must have been trying to kill Bing and the chute got switched. It could be Wiet, but she is needed to be a triangle with Noud and Nina, which only just got started and has more to play out, I think. Makes no sense to kill off Rikki unless the actress wants to leave. But there would be so much more drama if Sjoerd was around and he won't be, so it's probably not Rikki. Nuran is needed for the big role of bringing Aysen down finally. She knows Aysen killed Danny and Danny was Rik's brother and there's a lot of drama to be had with her being stuck in that situation. It won't be Nuran, I'm pretty sure. I think those scenes of Lucas overhearing Ludo plotting something is the giveaway. I think it's going to be Mike for the reasons Mark outlined earlier. It gives Menno multiple suspects - Nina, Ludo, Lorena - and it drives Noud towards Wiet. It puts Lucas in an uncomfortable position... all the way around a good source of drama. |
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Post by Hawthorne on Jul 5, 2013 9:53:25 GMT -5
So I just watched the July 4 episode. They are giving many people a motive for murder - especially a motive to kill Mike. Mike fired Laura, so both she and Noud have a motive, but of course neither would ever do that. Wiet has a motive to kill Nina or Noud, assuming her psychotic ways are back. I don't think they are and Wiet is a red herring. The number of people who now have a reason to hate Mike is so large that his death sets up a major whodunnit next season. But the only one capable or murder is Aysen and the fact that Bing is originally planning to jump, but doesn't does suggest that Mike ends up with the sabotaged parachute that was intended for Bing.
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Post by GTSTfanMark on Jul 5, 2013 11:16:29 GMT -5
Mike fired Laura, so both she and Noud have a motive, but of course neither would ever do that. Laura has killed someone before. |
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Post by Hawthorne on Jul 5, 2013 12:21:49 GMT -5
Mike fired Laura, so both she and Noud have a motive, but of course neither would ever do that. Laura has killed someone before. Sweet, loving Laura?  I suppose you can't be on a soap opera for over 20 years and not kill someone. Ha-ha! There must have been circumstances that made it plausible then. I don't think her current grievance reaches that level. I can't really picture her coldly slicing the cords in anyone's parachute. How would she even know which parachute to sabotage? No, it is someone with inside knowledge. |
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Post by Hawthorne on Jul 5, 2013 12:29:39 GMT -5
But so definitely someone dies. There's no surviving that. You would think not, BUT... this is a soap. The person could end up in a coma for 4 months. |
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Post by GTSTfanMark on Jul 5, 2013 12:32:27 GMT -5
Laura has killed someone before. How would she even know which parachute to sabotage? Everyone had to write down their name and the number of their parachute. So everyone, also people who weren't part of that group, could have done it. |
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Post by GTSTfanMark on Jul 16, 2013 1:52:13 GMT -5
The GTST app and RTL Boulevard have revealed two survivors: Rikki and Maxime. In the app you could hear Maxime talking on the phone to Jef. She told him there had been an accident. There was also a video of Rikki after she landed. They also aired that clip on RTL Boulevard: www.rtl.nl/xl/#/u/abdebc6e-6068-cf43-54d8-0f7e4201edfd/ |
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Post by Hawthorne on Jul 16, 2013 19:53:42 GMT -5
Rikki was the least likely to be the victim. Some people thought Nick could have returned and sabotaged Maxime's parachute, but that was a stretch. The victim almost surely was involved in an ongoing, high-profile story at the end of the season.
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Post by GTSTfanMark on Jul 24, 2013 1:04:31 GMT -5
Update from the app: Nuran is the third survivor.
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Right now I'm just happy Lucas and Menno aren't jumping out of that plane. 
I suppose you can't be on a soap opera for over 20 years and not kill someone. Ha-ha! There must have been circumstances that made it plausible then. I don't think her current grievance reaches that level. I can't really picture her coldly slicing the cords in anyone's parachute. How would she even know which parachute to sabotage? No, it is someone with inside knowledge.