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Post by spherical07 on Nov 20, 2012 21:02:02 GMT -5
Mark, when am I going to see that spoiler that says, "Bilal returns!?" Not that I don't love Noud/Nina, but lets face it, this drama is only going to end with them [Noud/Nina] together after all this crap  . |
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Post by GTSTfanMark on Nov 21, 2012 5:48:56 GMT -5
December 7:
Janine and Lucas have to save the talent show when it turns out that Maarten has been beaten up.
(more spoilers in the Spoiler Posts thread)
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Post by Hawthorne on Nov 21, 2012 10:51:59 GMT -5
Just watched the complete scenes. No sex. I've been thinking about it and story-wise it works so well if Noud turns out to be the father that I think that has to continue to be a possibility. There's doesn't necessarily have to be an obvious on-screen moment when Noud and Nina had sex and created a baby. As a married couple who shared a bed, the sex could have happened at any time off screen. If Nina is far enough along so that it's physically possible for Noud to have been the father, then I think it's a possibility that that's the case. |
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Post by HQ75 on Nov 21, 2012 17:12:04 GMT -5
Why is it so important that Noud is the father?
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Post by GTSTfanMark on Nov 22, 2012 8:03:19 GMT -5
A while ago there were rumors that Marcus Sanders (brother of Ludo and Maxime) would come back. It now has been confirmed by Marjolein Keuning (Maxime) in an interview. The original actor, Hugo Metsers, will reprise the role.
A short scene of Marcus and Stefano:
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Post by daleeryohm on Nov 22, 2012 11:17:04 GMT -5
Sounds like a big deal. And he's attractive. Any other details, Mark? What was the dynamic when he left?
Love for Stefano to come back though. Lucas needs more to do again.
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Post by GTSTfanMark on Nov 22, 2012 12:25:47 GMT -5
Ludo and Marcus never liked each other. Maxime first appeared in 2008. We've never seen Marcus and Maxime together (except in flashbacks when they were played by child actors) so we also don't know how they relate to each other now.
Marcus left the show in 2003.
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Post by GTSTfanMark on Nov 22, 2012 16:10:54 GMT -5
I just saw tomorrow's episode. Noud is back!
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Post by GTSTfanMark on Nov 24, 2012 10:53:25 GMT -5
Mike doesn't look very happy on Monday's episode.   |
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Post by Hawthorne on Nov 24, 2012 11:17:29 GMT -5
It looks like Nina is going to be very happy to see Noud again. In the struggle between the good-hearted Noud and the underhanded Mike, one has to assume that Noud eventually wins. But the baby complicates things. If the baby is truly Mikes, then it's hard to see how Noud and Nina reconcile. That a very tough thing for a couple to handle - having a child who's been fathered by the man the wife cheated with. That's why I think that ultimately the baby must turn out to be Noud's. Or perhaps Nina loses the baby. I suppose it's possible that Mike could pay a doctor to tell Nina she's pregnant, but that could only last until Nina has her next period. But who knows... maybe this story line won't get resolved this season.
I hope Lucas will be fully on Noud's side despite his promise to be neutral. He knows what an awful thing Mike is doing to his sister, so I've got to think he's going to work against Mike. Plus, he still loves Noud, I hope. I would love it if Lucas plays a key role in bringing Mike down.
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Post by GTSTfanMark on Nov 24, 2012 11:24:53 GMT -5
It looks like Nina is going to be very happy to see Noud again. Wrong.  She's furious at Noud. This happens at the end of the episode. They both get emotional and that's why they embrace each other. But there's a long way to go before they can be happy again. Bing and Sjors were a couple when it turned out that Danny was the father of Lana. Although the difference there was that Sjors cheated on Danny with Bing. I hope this is not going to be a repeat of that. I don't want a 'who's the daddy?' story line. That's why I also think (hope) that it will be clear from the start who the father is. In the end a soap opera is about drama. Mike being the father of this baby causes a lot of drama for Nina and Noud. Is their love strong enough to survive it? Mike doesn't really love Nina so Noud being the father would suck for Mike but I think it will cause less drama. Edit: About Lucas being part of the story. It looks like Lucas is the first one Nina is going to tell about the pregnancy. So it looks like he's going to be a supporting character in this story. And this week Ferry did film scenes with Louis, because he tweeted that he ate a lot of red onions and apologized to Louis, Guido and Robin. |
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Post by Hawthorne on Nov 24, 2012 12:01:34 GMT -5
Oh, that picture of them embracing threw me off. But since they embrace, there's obviously something still there. But yeah it makes sense that they will have to work through a lot before they are happy again.
I agree that soaps are about drama and I can certainly see how a baby from Mike causes ongoing drama. I think, though, that past the point where Nina figures out that Mike is just using her, the baby serves little dramatic purpose. At some point the show and the audience is going to tire of the whole Mike stealing Nina thing and be ready to move on to another story. The baby being Mike's denies the audience a rewarding pay-off to this good guy versus bad guy drama. The audience is denied all the adorable scenes of Noud - a very popular character - being a daddy.
One thing that causes even more drama is injustice, so I could see the baby being Noud's but Mike working to keep that a secret. That's a very common soap tactic. We see the good guy being cheated out of his wife and his child. But usually the good guy turns out to be the father. With Danny and Bing, Bing was a lot less deserving and likeable. He'd been behaving badly and the audience got to see him lose out when Danny was revealed to be the father. Noud is so pure and deserving that I think ultimately we'll get to see him prevail in all ways.
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Post by GTSTfanMark on Nov 26, 2012 14:54:36 GMT -5
The dynamic duo, Lucas and Noud, is reunited on tomorrow's episode! It was only one scene but it was so nice to see them together again.  |
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Post by daleeryohm on Nov 26, 2012 15:21:57 GMT -5
Aww, and then they fell into bed together, and have a sexy reunited best friends sleepover.
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Post by Hawthorne on Nov 26, 2012 16:03:34 GMT -5
The dynamic duo, Lucas and Noud, is reunited on tomorrow's episode! It was only one scene but it was so nice to see them together again. Look at how Noud's arms so fully and hungrily enwrap Lucas' lean, muscular body, clasping him tightly to his own body in an embrace of intense, effusive love! My new favorite photo. |
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Post by GTSTfanMark on Nov 26, 2012 16:11:36 GMT -5
The dynamic duo, Lucas and Noud, is reunited on tomorrow's episode! It was only one scene but it was so nice to see them together again. Look at how Noud's arms so fully and hungrily enwrap Lucas' lean, muscular body, clasping him tightly to his own body in an embrace of intense, effusive love! My new favorite photo. Somehow I knew you would like it. |
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Post by GTSTfanMark on Nov 28, 2012 7:37:43 GMT -5
I added the December 14 spoilers, including this one:
Lucas thinks it's time that Nina really chooses between the two men she's stringing along.
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Post by GTSTfanMark on Dec 11, 2012 7:42:49 GMT -5
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Post by HQ75 on Dec 11, 2012 9:05:47 GMT -5
Okay, I looked up Marcus on Wikipedia.
Cool!
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Post by GTSTfanMark on Dec 11, 2012 13:22:24 GMT -5
It's not Marcus... Wiet is coming back as a permanent character. Not a guest stint.
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Post by Hawthorne on Dec 11, 2012 14:45:40 GMT -5
Wait... how could she realistically be free so quickly? They must feel that Sjors needs some family to interact with now that Jack is gone. Not too thrilled by this move.
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Post by GTSTfanMark on Dec 11, 2012 15:15:39 GMT -5
A while ago I read somewhere that the original plan was for Wiet to stay on the show. That she would get away with it. But then around that time there was a horrible shooting at a shopping mall here in the Netherlands and the writers decided that Wiet should get punished. She did get four years of TBS (involuntary psychiatric treatment). I don't know all the details about TBS but I do know they let you go if they think you're recovered. What I don't know is if that can happen at any time or that it can only happen after the amount of time that was part of the punishment (four years in Wiet's case).
When RTL Boulevard teased that a bad girl was coming back I was hoping for a return of Martine Hafkamp (original cast member Inge Ipenburg). She's Sjors' mother. But I do like Wiet as well. Her first interaction with Lucas could be interesting since she put him into that coma.
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Post by Zathras on Dec 11, 2012 21:25:58 GMT -5
Interesting. Not sure what to think of Wiet coming back. It's sure to make things eventful . |
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Post by HQ75 on Dec 11, 2012 21:41:30 GMT -5
Aww, crazy little Wiet. This will be interesting. As nutty as she was, I always liked her. Don't know why. Unlike Amy, I feel like Wiet could be redeemed. But I don't see anyone in the Sanders family forgiving her any time soon, bless her loony heart.
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Post by GTSTfanMark on Dec 13, 2012 9:17:08 GMT -5
Ferry and Guido filming scenes on location today.  |
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She's furious at Noud. This happens at the end of the episode. They both get emotional and that's why they embrace each other. But there's a long way to go before they can be happy again. 
