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Post by GTSTfanMark on Jul 5, 2012 15:50:40 GMT -5
It does seem like the show wants to keep the season finale a secret. No shortie and we're also not able to pay €0,99 for the complete episode.
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Post by daleeryohm on Jul 5, 2012 16:59:54 GMT -5
Ooooh. How soon will you be able to watch and spoil us, Mark?
I do want to know where this is going.
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Post by GTSTfanMark on Jul 5, 2012 17:03:00 GMT -5
Probably tomorrow morning around 11 AM (Dutch time). Unless they won't air it on RTL Lounge.  In that case I would have to wait until 8 PM to watch it on RTL4.  |
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Post by raggiodisole63 on Jul 5, 2012 17:07:26 GMT -5
It does seem like the show wants to keep the season finale a secret. No shortie and we're also not able to pay €0,99 for the complete episode. I was wondering why I couldn't find the shortie.... thanks Mark! |
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Post by Hawthorne on Jul 5, 2012 22:45:26 GMT -5
It can't be that. It's too soon. The truth is that we don't even know if Bilal is gay (only the dream secuence, but that can be just Lucas mind playing games). I suppose technically we don't know, but we know. Normally it would be too soon for Bilal to get to the point where he would deal honestly with who he is, but this is the season finale cliffhanger episode and something dramatic has to happen. Bilal is likely fresh from his breakup with Nuran and in some turmoil. I wouldn't be surprised if he plants a kiss on Lucas. |
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Post by mycatfox on Jul 5, 2012 22:55:59 GMT -5
It can't be that. It's too soon. The truth is that we don't even know if Bilal is gay (only the dream secuence, but that can be just Lucas mind playing games). I suppose technically we don't know, but we know. Normally it would be too soon for Bilal to get to the point where he would deal honestly with who he is, but this is the season finale cliffhanger episode and something dramatic has to happen. Bilal is likely fresh from his breakup with Nuran and in some turmoil. I wouldn't be surprised if he plants a kiss on Lucas. Me either. But based on their previous scenes, plus Bilal's tough background...I don't know. Wouldn't it be too precipitated? Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see it happen , but still... too much, too soon  |
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Post by Hawthorne on Jul 5, 2012 23:00:05 GMT -5
BTW, there's a media/television blog (a reliable blog) that claims Marcus Sanders (Ludo's brother) comes back in the final episode of this season. Maybe Tim is connected to him? Maybe Tim is actually a Sanders? That might also explain why he's keeping an eye on Lucas and Nina... Marcus left Meerdijk with a daughter, Kimberly. The blog says she's also coming back. Kimberly was still a baby when they left. She was born in the same year as Rikki, so she's probably going to be around that same age. This blog is basically the only source that has this news so far, so I'm going to take it with a small grain of salt for the time being. Tim dropped in to see Lucas when he knew Lucas wasn't home, so he wanted to observe the Sanders family. He is likely related to them somehow, I think. I suspect he is also related to Rikki. Is there any combination of character hook-ups that could make Tim related to both families? |
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Post by GTSTfanMark on Jul 6, 2012 1:01:06 GMT -5
The Sanders and Rikki aren't the only people Tim is observing. He also has a family tree of the Bouwhuis family in his notebook:  And on the left page you can also see the name "Alberts"...  |
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Post by GTSTfanMark on Jul 6, 2012 4:11:15 GMT -5
I just saw the finale. Basically the whole cast was part of the episode and it still didn't feel rushed at all. The Lucas/Bilal scenes were really good IMO.
Bilal goes to the Sanders mansion to tell Lucas again to leave him alone. Lucas thinks it's a little weird that he came all the way over just to tell him that. Especially because Lorena is the only one who knows that Lucas thinks he's gay. Lucas confronts Bilal about the fact that he's lying to himself. And that the only two people he's hurting are Nuran and himself. Bilal gets really emotional, there are tears in his eyes. He keeps telling Lucas to stop, but you can see his wall breaking down. And then he kisses Lucas. It's a desperate kiss from someone who's in pain. That's their cliffhanger for the episode.
Other cliffhangers: Nuran tells Rik she's in love with him. Yvon walks in at that moment. Noud leaves for Tokyo to visit his dad while Nina is comforted by Mike. Bing hits Jack with his car, but it's not an accident. Bing sees Jack and then he steps on the gas. The episode ends with Tim making a mysterious phone call. He says he's not in a hurry but that nothing will ever be the same again.
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Post by mycatfox on Jul 6, 2012 4:45:13 GMT -5
Wow, such a cliffhanger!  So Lucas was right all along...I'm very intrigued to see how this plot will develop. If Bilal kissed Lucas that means he's not only gay (or bi ) but he's also attracted to him Hmmm... interesting. And if you say it didn't feel rushed, I'm almost sure I'll agree with you after watching the episode, Mark Thanks for the information, bro  |
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Post by GTSTfanMark on Jul 6, 2012 4:49:35 GMT -5
When I said that about it not feeling rushed, I was talking about the episode overall. But it also applies to the Lucas/Bilal scenes. The way it was written and performed... It made sense. I was especially impressed by Sinan Eroglu. I could actually feel Bilal's pain. He did a great job. They both did. |
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Post by Hawthorne on Jul 6, 2012 8:35:11 GMT -5
And then he kisses Lucas. I knew it! |
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Post by raggiodisole63 on Jul 6, 2012 13:52:02 GMT -5
Oh, well! No episode yet, but I saw the shortie!!! What a kiss! Pain, anger, fear, hope... I think there's so much in Bilal's kiss to Lucas. His eyes go wild for a moment, just before the kiss and he shows all of his mixed emotions.. gooooood!!! Now, I'll (im)patiently wait for the whole episode and mostly for the translation... Thank you, Mark! On a side: I have this really weird feeling that Tim is some sort of an angel, some guy sent from heaven (or similar) to watch those people and maybe try to help them out... |
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Post by GTSTfanMark on Jul 6, 2012 14:04:29 GMT -5
The episode is online! It's longer than usual (27 minutes instead of 22/23). |
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Post by Zathras on Aug 20, 2012 20:19:26 GMT -5
Thanks for the new spoilers, Mark. Lucas is being threatened ... by Bilal? Or by someone Bilal knows? I wonder ... Now I have to go re-watch the end of last season so I can remember what was going on, lol. ;D |
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Post by GTSTfanMark on Aug 20, 2012 22:45:00 GMT -5
Yeah, it's probably Bilal. But I don't think Lucas will be very impressed by that threat. BTW, I've seen the new cast photo already. Tim is part of it, but Bilal isn't. So he's not (yet) a permanent character. It's possible he will leave after a while or that he will become a permanent character later on. We'll have to wait and see. |
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Post by Hawthorne on Aug 20, 2012 23:08:35 GMT -5
"Tim is not able to keep his secret to himself. Bianca tries to unraffle a secret."
The spoilers kind of suggest that Tim is connected to the Bouwhuis family. Maybe he is Edwin's "replacement" for that family - so that they can have more than one child again and for Sjoerd to have a "brother" again to interact with. Only maybe Sjoerd doesn't get along with this new brother as well as he did with Edwin.
BTW, "unraffle" should be "unravel."
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Post by GTSTfanMark on Aug 21, 2012 0:28:36 GMT -5
Thanks. I wasn't sure about the spelling and I was too lazy to look it up. So I googled 'unraffle'. Apparently I'm not the only one who uses the wrong spelling. ;D I think I got confused about the spelling because in Dutch we use an F ('ontrafelen'). |
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Post by GTSTfanMark on Aug 21, 2012 4:55:40 GMT -5
The new cast photo. Taken (not by me, I'm not there) at RTL's fall presentation today.  |
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Post by julerocks on Aug 21, 2012 8:44:45 GMT -5
The new cast photo. Taken (not by me, I'm not there) at RTL's fall presentation today. Thanks for the picture  Mayby I'm cross-eyed but where is Bilal...I think I can see Lucas (left with the Sanders) but the guy next to Nuran is Rik...or not? The only person I can't attribute is the guy between Lorena and Tim, but he looks definitely not like Bilal. |
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Post by GTSTfanMark on Aug 21, 2012 10:34:07 GMT -5
As I said before, Bilal is not part of the cast photo. But this doesn't have to mean anything. He could become a permanent character later on. Or he leaves the show after a while. We just don't know. The characters in the photo are from left to right: Noud, Janine, Ludo, Nina, Lucas, Mike, Maxime, Aysen, Nuran, Rik, Jef, Rikki, Laura, Sjoerd, Bing, Anton, Sjors, Bianca, Lorena, Jack and Tim.
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Post by julerocks on Aug 21, 2012 11:46:54 GMT -5
Ah okay thanks, so no new glasses for me |
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Post by Hawthorne on Aug 21, 2012 13:58:56 GMT -5
The new cast photo. Taken (not by me, I'm not there) at RTL's fall presentation today. I'm of the belief that there's always some aspects of the season that informs the cast photo. Lucas between Mike and Nina makes sense to me since I expect Lucas will want Nina to get back with Noud and will be skeptical of Mike. Look how close Noud is to Janine. Perhaps Janine also prefers Noud and champions him with Nina. Rik and Nuran are next to each other, which reflects the romance that they are going to have. Tim is on the side with the Bouwhuis family. No Sanders on that side of the picture. But his placement is off on the end to keep from being too spoilerish, I think. There's space in-between Sjoerd and Rikki. I think that spells more relationship issues. Jack and Lorena are obviously going to reconnect. Whether or not Bing and Sjors survive as a couple, I can't tell, but their positioning suggests that their stories are going to be very connected this season. |
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Post by GTSTfanMark on Aug 21, 2012 14:33:10 GMT -5
I have a feeling Mike and Sjors might eventually get together. Before she went to that hospital in Switzerland, Mike was very interested in her. The first time he saw her he even had that typical soapy "You're beautiful, I want you" look on his face. I hope Sjors is not going to take Bing back after what he did. Because it wasn't an accident. Bing deliberately hit Jack with his car. I like Jef and Laura's position at the center of the photo. To me, they're the heart and soul of the show. It wouldn't be the same without them so I hope to see more of them. I find Jef/Lucas scenes very amusing. |
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Post by HQ75 on Aug 21, 2012 14:47:03 GMT -5
I agree about Jef and Laura and Jef and Lucas. So great.
I missed the part where Bing hit Jack with the car.
But in my defense, I was taking classes.
And OMG, bout Sjors And Jack hit by cars after Jack nearly died from the virus.
Damn, they are gonna need their own personal beds in the hospital. LOL
Getting so excited for the new season.
Thanks for the spoilers and cast photo Mark.
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In that case I would have to wait until 8 PM to watch it on RTL4. 
So Lucas was right all along...I'm very intrigued to see how this plot will develop. If Bilal kissed Lucas that means he's not only gay (or bi 
