General Discussion - Fisica O Quimica

[Shiny]

Yesterday night I have sent several questions from russian fans to Jonathan. And it looks like he read almost all of them
Unfortunately we didn't understand the answers completely. And they were laughing at one of our questions

But on the question if Adrian will be in the new season we heard an answer "esperemos que sì" (we expect that yes). I'll listen to it again when they post the video on the site.

I hope that our spanish fervidistas will post a summary in this forum! Please

P.S. Here are our questions:
1. Will there be anything related to FerVid in season 8?
2. Will we see Adrian in the new season?
3. Will there be any old students and teachers at all in new FoQ? If yes, how many?
4. What should we expect from the new FoQ - continuation of old story lines or everything will be radically changed?

[jos87]

thanks shiny for the info. Did you the answers during the videoencuentro or not?
However i don't know if i really want to see David in the new season because i'm not sure that i want to see him with another guy or with another girl (it is possible after that they in the last season opened to the bisexual's orientation of David,even for me is not so credible);I have the fear (if i can say fear) that if David will stay with another person all the story with Fer will be destoyed.So i really don't know if i want or not Adrian in the new FoQ (even i like him so much as an actor and as a guy). And i have the impression that Adrian is more interested to the music at the moment.Maybe he will have cameos during the season 8.
Shiny i really don't know what to think about this. I don't want that Fervid will become something not important in FoQ.
Finally,are they replied to all your answers?Or only to the one about Adrian?

[Shiny]

I was able to get some translations yesterday evening. They have answered 3 our questions directly, as for the last one - I believe it was answered during the conference.
I was really glad because I almost forgot to send that message and posted it at Thursday night. And I haven't heard any other questions related to Adrian or FerVid (may be I'm wrong here).

The Zurbaran remains and one of the classes/rooms will be named after Fernando Redondo. The answer regarding Adrian was understood correctly: "we expect that yes". Smth was said about his sporadic appearance in the episodes.
And question 3 Jonathan has translated in a wrong way into Spanish: Will there be any NEW students and teachers? They laughed and said Off course, yes.
And it seems they were also surprised that there are so many Fervidistas in russian-speaking countries.

Series will be shorter. Students will be in main focus and teachers will only be shown in connection to them. Target auditorium < 25 years old. New characters will be connected somehow to the old ones. Overall they plan 16 new characters.
Season 8 is planned for early 2012.

They were talking a bit about Fer's death and famous scene with Camiseta de Fer and told that with the way they ended FerVid storyline this love became eternal (yeah, yeah, as if it an excuse for us and makes it easier to live with...)

If I remember smth more I'll update this post.

I fully agree with you regarding David. I don't want to see him with any new character at all!!!!
And I don't know if I should be happy or sad regarding this news. I like him as an actor and he's really cute but as you said I don't want FerVid storyline to be destroyed.

There was one more question (I'm not sure if I understood everything correctly): if they plan relationship between dos chicas (two girls??). They answered - probably.

[jos87]

Thank you shiny for this post with all this info.
So they hope that Adrian will be part of FoQ; i can be happy of this only if he will appear in a little number of episodes,maybe with something connected with Fer or with other old characters. He is so great that an actor (and his wonderful character)like him is always a pleasure to see;but,at the same time, i don't know how i can react if he will be in the series for all the season,because i'm sure that if it will happen he will have a new boyfriend (or girlfriend? mmm no David for me is gay and not bisex like they wanted to make us believe.I said this because is true that he was with Susana but in these 2 years he showed interest only for boys;never for a girl) and this boyfriend is not Fer. (maybe a little story with Jon? ) i really don't know what to think about it. We have to wait before start to speculate Adrian (that i really like) now is interested more in music , so maybe if he will be in FoQ will be for little appearances. .Or maybe he will be in the entire season and his story will be good.Ok Ok I have to stop with the speculation; I have to rest my brain.
I know that with that kind of end for Fervid their love became eternal;but I,as Fervidista,would have preferred an happy ending for this amazing couple.
However now i'm not so excited to see this new Season.Maybe it will be good but is not FoQ for me

[Shiny]

Jul 16, 2011 15:29:29 GMT -5 jos87 said:

.. but I,as Fervidista,would have preferred an happy ending for this amazing couple.
However now i'm not so excited to see this new Season.Maybe it will be good but is not FoQ for me

Same here! I was against season 8 from the beginning.
I'll repeat myself: for me it's no FoQ without FerVid and no FerVid without Fer

[Shiny]

Jonathan has answered our questions which we sent him in twitter after the conference. I'll post one of his answers with a bit new info:

"Nos dijeron que la historia de Fer y David está cerrada pero que podríamos ver a David en algún capítulo aunque nada es seguro".
(We were told that the story of Fer and David is closed but we can see David in one of the episodes but nothing is for sure)

[jos87]

thank you shiny for this info. So Adrian maybe will be in some chapters;so in a sort of cameo (even because i believe that the story will start in a new school year;so i suppose that David will be in the University and not in the Zurbaran).If he will be only a "guest" is ok because he will not have the time to start another story with someone else. But who know? The important thing at this point is that,even if they choose to put David with someone else (even ,now ,i don't believe this)we can have some moments where we can see the eternal love of David for Fer. I don't know if i was clear with this concept.
About the "Nada es seguro" they have to see if Adrian is interested to continue and if he is interested to the story they prepared for him;because i'm sure that Adrian is very linked with his character and with the Fervid's story.So if the story can destroy Fervid,i am not sure that Adrian will accept.We'll see with the time.
"la historia de Fer y David esta cerrada"--->seems to me normal;they are not a soap opera where people can return from death ;D
Thanks again for your new news

[Shiny]

Estrella voting, 2nd round until 15.September (Javier Calvo, Andrea Duro and FoQ).
Both Andrea and FoQ had a big outvote in first round, but Javier and Mario Casas were really close to each other.
So keep on voting!!! As much as possible!!!

www.magazinestrellaweb.es/#!premios/vstc14=television-nacional

[Shiny]

[jos87]

This pictures are taken from the episode of the musical about Giulietta e Romeo,right? Both of them are very beautiful in these pictures. I miss them

[Shiny]

Yes, they are both from the musical but we have just found them.
They are also photos from other FoQ characters but they are not that interesting for us

Javi looks marvellous!!!!
This is the photo I can stare at for hours....

[Shiny]

New voting - los Premios Beliebers 2011
www.premiosbeliebers2011.tk/

[jos87]

Jul 27, 2011 2:19:14 GMT -5 Shiny said:

New voting - los Premios Beliebers 2011
www.premiosbeliebers2011.tk/

why Adrian is not here? Yes,in this way we are not in the situation of having to choose between Adrian and Javier;but it is unfair that Adrian is not considered as one of the best actors of 2011. Maxi Iglesias yes,and Adrian no?please
I vote for Javier,Ursula and Fisica o Quimica.But i don't understand why the fans of this "singer" that i dislike very much ;D have to create this pool.It's an important award or what?

[Shiny]

Jos, don't forget to vote for Adri here:
www.antena3.com/celebrities/famosos-sexy/quien-pone_2011012600064.html

[jos87]

Thanks Shiny for the link. Now i can vote for him 10 stars for him

[Shiny]

FISICO O QUIMICA on Telemundo

[jos87]

Thanks shiny for the video. This FoQ's version make me confused because we know that Russian version will be as similar as possible to the original version while this one seems very different. How can Isaac be in the same season of David, Veronica, Berto,Vaquero? And from which point(of the spanish version) they will begin the story?
Esthetically they seem good,but i continue to prefer the originals,especially Adrian (ok everybody know that i like him very much ), Yoli, Ruth,Irene,Olimpia (i love Ana Milan) and Javi too (even if i prefer him with short hairs).while i prefer the american Gorka and Julio

[Shiny]

The one who's looking for always finds something

Photos from after the Romeo & Juliette with biggest fan of JC
(thanks to miss positiff for all the photos I post here today as she was the one who found them!)

[Shiny]

More photos from the shooting of 7x7

[Shiny]

Intermediate voting results



Keep on voting!

[jos87]

thanks shiny. I'm happy that our votes at the moment make FoQ,ANdrea and Javier win this award. We have to continue to vote.
And thank you,shiny for the pictures.i really don't know how the new FoQ will be; because if they will choose some people who made videos for the casting (posted on Antena 3's site),maybe would be better to stop FoQ forever

[deathstrike87]

Hello, I'm new to this forum but I've watched Fisica o Quimica and am a huge Fervid fan. Like all of you, I was devastated by what happened to Fer and to this couple, but I've decided to join this forum now and post this just to get everything out of my system, and thus hopefully move on from this show and this couple.

In my head-canon, there's 2 possible scenarios acceptable for me, as a Fervid fan and as fan of good storytelling:

1) Fer and David are not in Zurbaran in Season 7 because if you think about it, they really don't need to be there.

If you remember before Season 6 ended, David actually retook the Philosophy test that he failed by convincing Marina, and Fer passed all his subjects. They really should be in University right now, living together, thus away from the school shooting and Fer wouldn't have died. Season 6 ended in such a way that looked like the ultimate ending for Fervid anyway. The only reason they were in Season 7 to begin with was ratings.

or,

2) Everything that happened in Season 7 was real, and David commits suicide or dies in whatever way some time after Fer's death and Zurbaran's close down. Let me explain this before anyone frowns at it.

If we look back to David's feelings for Fer and all his dialogues/actions throughout the show whenever there's trouble in paradise with Fer, it's evident how miserable he is, and how he literally couldn't function as a normal, healthy human being as such. Everybody could see it: Fer, Julio, Yoli, Borja, Quino, Alma, Paula, Jorge, Gorka, Marina, Salva, his parents, even fuckin' Marcos. David himself admits to everyone around him and to himself that he doesn't know what the fuck to do without Fer in his life, and that he actually doesn't WANT to live without Fer. He tried self-destruction at early Season 6 when Fer was with Borja, by non-stop partying, clubbing, having unprotected sex with strangers, having a literal death wish by riding his scooter while hammered drunk, and generally not giving a fuck about his life and studies. We even saw him actually attempt suicide for real in 6x14 when Fer was about to get married to Borja. This is all when Fer was ALIVE and actually in his orbit. Just imagine how much worse things are when Fer is literally gone from the world. Anyway, let's just look at all these dialogues:

David (to Julio) : I have to speak with Fer. After what I did to Ruth, he doesn't want me near him and I understand. But I'm miserable, man. (Ep. 3x11)

David (to Fer): Don't you fucking play the hero again, ok! If something happens to you, I'll die. (Ep. 3x11)

David (to Marcos): Look man, I'm with someone that I love with my whole life. So I want you to stop calling me and coming to my school. Don't call me, forget me, I don't exist! If I see you again, I'll kick your ass. (Ep. 4x12)

David (to Fer): Fuck Fer! If I lied to you about this thing with Marcos, it's because I didn't want you to think badly of me. You are the most important person to me, and I'm done with him forever! (Ep. 4x14)

David: Fuck Fer, you and I were born to be together. (6x01)

Fer (to Salva about David): I don't know what to do. He's not coping well with the break up so if he finds out I know, it might get worse.

Salva: Look Fer, I'm going to give you advice for a change. If David is having a hard time it's because you're the most important person to him and he'll surely need support. Make a move. (6x05)

David (to Fer): Is there anything worthwhile in my life now, eh? I'm losing the school year, my parents are getting a divorce, and I've lost the person who changed my life! (referring to Fer) What do I have left?

Fer: You have your friends, David.

David: (shrugs it off and smiles sarcastically)

Marina: We can't know what's going to happen tomorrow so it's absurd to give up when there's so much to live for.

David: Yeah, but Fer is one of the few things I have. And if it wasn't for this, he wouldn't be in my life.

Marina: If Fer's been with you while you thought you could be infected, it's because he'll always be no matter what. (6x05)

One of the exchanges that makes me believe in the possibility of suicide for David. Because this time, Fer will NOT be there anymore no matter what. It's just impossible for him to be.

David: Jesus Chris is lying dead in the arms of the Virgin Mary in a realistic way. So much so one starts thinking of death. Of that fateful day when somebody loses you or you lose everything. Because who hasn't ever thought of death as a desperate measure to end pain?

*attempts to jump off a ledge but is stopped by Jorge*

David (to Jorge): I don't know what I'm going to do without Fer! (while crying his eyes out)

(6x14)

And let's look at the lyrics to "¿Dónde Estaré?", which is their official theme song to each other:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOOp_a8UPjs

(Chorus) 0:47
¿Dónde estarás? ¿Dónde estaré?
Ni siquiera lo se
¿Me esperarás? ¿Te esperaré?
No lo quiero saber
¿Dónde estarás? ¿Dónde estaré?
Si me vuelvo a perder
En el mar de tu sonrisa
Otra vez

Where will you be? Where will I be?
I don't even know
Will you wait for me? Will I wait for you?
I don't wanna know,
Where will you be? Where will I be?
If I lose myself
In the sea of your smile
Once more

(Bridge) 2:16
Me atrevo a decir
Que eres todo lo que me hace sentir
No soy nada sin ti

I dare to say
You're everything that makes me feel
I'm nothing without you

There's also been evidences that David's attempts to move on with another person whenever there's trouble with Fer all resulted to shit. Jorge was rebound and didn't work, that internet guy he was talking about in 6x09 apparently didn't work out and we've never even met him, and the guy David made out with in 7x06 was just something random. And have you seen his face in the last episode while everyone was outside Zurbaran and practically every single character except Fer came back to the show alive? David looked freakin' depressed, lost, miserable and in a lot of PAIN. There were even some background shots where you could see that he was just staring off into space. He was surrounded by people but the feeling of being alone was very palpable through the screen. All credit to Adrian Rodriguez's acting of course but case in point. Dude was suffering. It was not the face of someone who has decided and resolved to heal and move on.

All in all, I know a lot of people have moral and personal objections to suicide, but in David's case, I can actually see it coming, and believe it if it actually happens. It'll at least be consistent with the way David's character was written and his actions/words in the whole show when it regards to his relationship with Fer. And personally, I believe that people have the ultimate responsibility for their own lives, and that they should have a choice when they are in a situation that they cannot live with.

Also, the writers wanted to mythologize Fervid? What better way to mythologize this couple than letting them be the gay version of Romeo and Juliet? It'll at least be original and something never before seen on TV. They spent 8 episodes in Season 6 tackling Romeo and Juliet anyway. This'll be a brilliant way to say that it was foreshadowing all along. And in all honesty, if David is really coming back for Season 8, most fans of this show and Fervid would rather see David's tombstone next to Fer's while their friends visit their graves and having flashbacks of them, than see David moving on with another person. I know it sounds terrible, but it's the awkward truth. Combine the time they spent developing this couple, plus the actual chemistry of the actors/characters themselves, and you can't help but have fans who are extremely attached to the couple to the point that they wouldn't want to see them with anyone else. It can get to the point where people would prefer David as dead and have that as the supreme declaration of FerVid's love being "eternal".

So this is how I see it in my head: either a very different Season 7, or David dies not too long after Zurbaran closes down, or David doesn't come back for Season 8 at all.

Unless of course it's possible for David to do self-deception and hallucinate himself with images, sounds, and sensations of Fer all the time. It's the only way he was able to cope since Fer's death until the show's ending anyway. It'll be a self-imposed schizophrenia.

Thanks for letting me share, even though I sounded like a complete maniac. But hey, somebody had to say all these. I know it's been going through lots of Fervid fans' heads, and knowing that this show is in Spanish, some people in other countries don't exactly have the most sources or places to voice their frustrations.

[jos87]

Hi deathstrike87,
and thank you to let us know your opinion about this wonderful story;
I'm one of the fervidistas that,like you, hoped for a good end for our couple;an happy end like a marriage for example,even if they were very young. But at the same time i can accept,even it's hard to do it, the end chose by the writers.And i'm happy that Fervid were in the season 7 (and i don't think that they were in the last season only for the rating ) because in this last season we had amazing Fervidistas's scenes (i love,for example,the entire episode 2).
About how imagine David's life after the death of Fer,i really don't want his suicide;because David is too young and he has an entire life ahead;and it's right,in my opinion, that he continue to live. I'm sure that Fer will be always in David's heart but i find right that he can continue to live,having another boyfriend to love;and this does not mean that David will forget Fer,because ,like i said, a great part of David's heart always will be Fer's property.But this is my vision and i respect your,deathstrike87. However, and i said this with Shiny many times, i prefer that the character of David will not be in the new Season,because David has sense only with Fer (and vice versa);and i think that this is what will happen because in a radio interview Adrian said that he will not be in the new season because the story of David ended with the death of Fer. Maybe we can see him again in FoQ but only as cameo.

[deathstrike87]

Aug 1, 2011 7:25:25 GMT -5 jos87 said:

Adrian said that he will not be in the new season because the story of David ended with the death of Fer. Maybe we can see him again in FoQ but only as cameo.

Ah, that's more acceptable then. Like I said, we either get Fervid or I really don't want David coming back in Season 8 at all. It wouldn't make sense considering how much effort and time the whole crew invested for Fervid. It will feel like a slap in the face seeing him get with somebody else, no matter how realistic or right it would seem in real life. In other words, I'd be fine with David surviving this and maybe be able to move on and be happy with someone else, I just don't want to see it. Unless they magically spend 4 or 5 more seasons developing it, with the same kind of chemistry that Javi and Adri had.

[jos87]

Aug 1, 2011 8:27:47 GMT -5 deathstrike87 said:

Aug 1, 2011 7:25:25 GMT -5 jos87 said:

Adrian said that he will not be in the new season because the story of David ended with the death of Fer. Maybe we can see him again in FoQ but only as cameo.

Ah, that's more acceptable then. Like I said, we either get Fervid or I really don't want David coming back in Season 8 at all. It wouldn't make sense considering how much effort and time the whole crew invested for Fervid. It will feel like a slap in the face seeing him get with somebody else, no matter how realistic or right it would seem in real life. In other words, I'd be fine with David surviving this and maybe be able to move on and be happy with someone else, I just don't want to see it. Unless they magically spend 4 or 5 more seasons developing it, with the same kind of chemistry that Javi and Adri had.

I'm totally agree with you. For this i said that i don't want David kill himself,because from what we know at the moment Adrian will not be part of the new FoQ;and i'd like to imagine,in my mind, David that will continue to love Fer for all his life but that can go on with his life. The cameo was my supposition,because i know that the writers want Adrian in some episodes of the new season;and i'm ok with this even because i am curious to see him again in 1-2 episode but only because i want to see how he continues his life;but i don't want,like you,him in the all season because i don't want to see David with another boy or girl after this last wonderful 5 seasons of Fervid. However from Adrian's words i can exclude his presence in the entire season as a main character.