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Post by anthonyl on Jul 15, 2022 3:10:36 GMT -5
Adios, Dawn. Her exit is ambiguous enough that I won't be surprised if she comes back in six months or so. But for now I'm glad for the break. And I hope they figure out where to take Jack. I think today tells us what’s next for Jack. This guy will be his next love interest. This guy is either an undercover cop or a closeted gang member. |
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Post by carld2 on Jul 21, 2022 2:06:25 GMT -5
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Post by justinate on Jul 21, 2022 9:56:51 GMT -5
Adios, Dawn. Her exit is ambiguous enough that I won't be surprised if she comes back in six months or so. But for now I'm glad for the break. And I hope they figure out where to take Jack. She's already back in today's episode, LOL. I am sorry if this really is the end for Damo. I rather grew to like him and felt sorry for him being a doormat to Desi, so maybe this is his only escape. Who wants to bet she will be flushing his ashes down the toilet for sleeping with Leanne while they were both under the influence of accidentally ingested drugs? As for Jack, Esther who was effectively widowed can move on to guy #2 but in the same time Jack is still single. Sure. |
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Post by carld2 on Jul 21, 2022 18:09:52 GMT -5
Adios, Dawn. Her exit is ambiguous enough that I won't be surprised if she comes back in six months or so. But for now I'm glad for the break. And I hope they figure out where to take Jack. She's already back in today's episode, LOL. I am sorry if this really is the end for Damo. I rather grew to like him and felt sorry for him being a doormat to Desi, so maybe this is his only escape. Who wants to bet she will be flushing his ashes down the toilet for sleeping with Leanne while they were both under the influence of accidentally ingested drugs? As for Jack, Esther who was effectively widowed can move on to guy #2 but in the same time Jack is still single. Sure. Ugh. What was the point of her even leaving??? Is this going to be one of those very staggered out exits like Louis had or is she staying? I had wondered about Damo because there was an article about him that was on the Stuff site and yet goes to a 404 when you try to read it. Damo was one of the few things I could tolerate about Desi so I am sorry if he's gone, especially if it's just for yet more Desi melodrama and tedium. I hope he isn't going. |
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Post by justinate on Jul 22, 2022 13:02:58 GMT -5
I had wondered about Damo because there was an article about him that was on the Stuff site and yet goes to a 404 when you try to read it. Damo was one of the few things I could tolerate about Desi so I am sorry if he's gone, especially if it's just for yet more Desi melodrama and tedium. I hope he isn't going. It would be a very odd storytelling decision if Damo were to survive what were absolutely catastrophic injuries, in defiance of all medical opinion and the surprise returns of Ali and Tess as guest stars for the bus. But I suppose it would drag out the two big affair reveals (Damo/Leanne and TK/Te Rongopai), much like Ali's death kept Kylie's killer secret under wraps. I worry that Leanne's guilt is going to push her into that cult they hinted at during the anti-vaxxer storyline. Between Dawn and Desi, if we had to lose only one of the two, I'd much rather Desi go than Dawn. At least Dawn has some redeeming qualities, I don't believe Desi has any. It is always weird how this show seems to fixate on the most annoying characters as their leading ladies. Esther, who had previously been fairly likable, regressed just as the show decided to make her one of its leads. The reasonably nice characters never last that long (like Tess), or get crapped on over and over again (like Jack). If they want a middle-aged Maori/Pasifika woman - CeCe is right there, and a way better choice of leading lady than Desi. Please, please, can we get a new love interest for Jack. If I read next week's spoilers correctly, Marty is back to Monique. Give Jack a chance, Marty! I bet once you go gay, Esther will stop sniffing around Rahu. Speaking of Rahu, he's being played as this hunk but is yet to get his shirt off ... what gives? |
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Post by carld2 on Jul 22, 2022 19:28:11 GMT -5
I agree Desi is the absolute worst of that crop (although Esther's behavior with men is making her a close second of late - and yes they have regressed her a great deal), especially as for long periods she just dominates airtime. The actress seems to be involved in other shows now, like Taskmaster, so I'm hoping she may cut down on her workload. Monique has no self-respect to go back with Marty as a rebound. I can't see that lasting. Oh well. |
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Post by antistatic on Jul 30, 2022 3:41:16 GMT -5
New clips from Anthony:
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Post by carld2 on Aug 12, 2022 22:58:15 GMT -5
Another new podcast episode (this one featuring the headwriters, an appearance by Ben Mitchell and Rebekkah Randell [TK and Dawn] and San Bunkall [the lovely Boyd], and an interview with Jess Sayer (Maeve): www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/shortland-street-the-podcast-what-makes-a-ferndale-wedding/EEIJ4PVW66FRIDNCF6RCBTWCDQ/www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/tv-radio/129373415/shortland-street-brings-a-new-cutting-edge-to-medical-dramaIt sort of tells you how the show feels about the handling of Curtis' death aftermath that Kura and the writers are, jokingly or not, basically going "fuck Jack, get over your dead brother," in the interview. The patient story with Jack and Rohu was my favorite part of this week, although as always Maeve's careening out of control is queasily compelling. I was briefly worried they were going to have Logan rape her or some kind of drunken hookup - still not sure we're out of the woods there. I still hate the stuff with Esther and Marty. There was no need to have them hook up. It just makes them even more incoherent as characters. I am guessing just as she and Rohu finally get together, and Monique and Marty get engaged or something, Monique will learn about the one-nigher and furiously announce the truth at a gathering. Zzz... Madonna made her second big TV appearance this week and yet I heard no mention of how months ago she was the subject of protests and demands for her firing due to Wilder editing her bigoted comments to go viral. Has that story been forgotten? If so, I can't say I'm sorry, but how jarring. |
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Post by antistatic on Aug 13, 2022 16:09:48 GMT -5
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Post by antistatic on Aug 13, 2022 16:43:42 GMT -5
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Post by kevvoi on Aug 13, 2022 22:27:21 GMT -5
Another new clip courtesy of Anthony:
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Post by carld2 on Aug 19, 2022 18:09:26 GMT -5
Podcast for the week, including an interview with Reuben Milner. www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/shortland-street-the-podcast-how-to-create-the-perfect-soap-opera-family/S2R67DA4DEPJCIQH22IO52ONXM/I have a soft spot for Steph, so I'm glad she's back for a bit - she helps ground all the tedious love drama (I just hope we aren't heading for a triangle with her, Esther and Rahu...please no). The whole game Jojo came up with was a fun diversion too. I know they wanted to have the image of Curtis dying soon after his daughter was born, and I know that the actress was pregnant in real life, but they really shouldn't have given Esther another child if they are going to focus so much on her love life. I'm sure some might say that's sexist, but the show did fine with focusing on Tess as a mother alongside her being involved with men. Esther, on the other hand, is playing games with two different men, being overworked, and has a very serious heart condition...oh and has another child who had to be packed off with his father (who was meant to be taking care of his very ill father while also working a paramedic job). I know this is a soap, but the shallowness of the writing for Esther, this last week in particular, feels so ridiculous compared to the circumstances of the character. |
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Post by antistatic on Aug 26, 2022 8:46:39 GMT -5
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Post by antistatic on Aug 26, 2022 8:51:32 GMT -5
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Post by antistatic on Aug 26, 2022 10:27:32 GMT -5
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Post by antistatic on Aug 26, 2022 15:10:35 GMT -5
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Post by antistatic on Aug 28, 2022 12:02:57 GMT -5
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Post by kevvoi on Aug 28, 2022 13:12:46 GMT -5
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Post by antistatic on Aug 28, 2022 14:02:44 GMT -5
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Post by carld2 on Sept 4, 2022 18:54:19 GMT -5
Catching up on this past week's episodes, and the conversion therapy/extremist church story is a plot that once upon a time I would have hoped was a part of the past, although I think we all knew, and know, that was never going to be the case. It's another natural extension of Maeve's control issues, but it is also a vital issue. I'm glad the show is covering it.
Meanwhile, they really have zero idea what to do with Dawn at this point, do they? A grown woman playing out Jan Brady's "George Glass" storyline...for a full week of episodes! And of course Jack is on babysitting and hand-holding duty. You could have easily just shown the same Dawn clip over and over and over for the full five days.
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Post by justinate on Sept 5, 2022 8:02:58 GMT -5
Catching up on this past week's episodes, and the conversion therapy/extremist church story is a plot that once upon a time I would have hoped was a part of the past, although I think we all knew, and know, that was never going to be the case. It's another natural extension of Maeve's control issues, but it is also a vital issue. I'm glad the show is covering it. Meanwhile, they really have zero idea what to do with Dawn at this point, do they? A grown woman playing out Jan Brady's "George Glass" storyline...for a full week of episodes! And of course Jack is on babysitting and hand-holding duty. You could have easily just shown the same Dawn clip over and over and over for the full five days. Today's episode has Jack finally fed up with Dawn - but he expresses it in the most cringe-worthy, diva-esque manner possible. Your so-called bestie (when did they become besties???) confesses her engagement has ended (for the second time) and she's been sleeping rough in her car because she's too ashamed to admit the truth to her friends - and your reaction is, "you've been lying to me!" Then he goes on to question what kind of friendship they have without a shred of self-awareness. Ugh. I don't even like Dawn and I found her plight more sympathetic than Jack did. Yes they've cycled back to the extremist church (cult) which we all knew would happen someday. I wasn't expecting it to be a homophobic church but it makes sense - those things usually go hand in hand. (Whatever happened to the other cult that TK's cute nephew was a part of and that brainwashed him and Dawn into wanting one another?) I guess this means we're going to get the secret of Viv's paternity sooner rather than later. Madonna can't hold onto that forever. What I can't figure out is who Viv's dad might be. I mean, it has to be a character on the show, past or present, right? It doesn't make sense for all this buildup and then it's just some random. There aren't any characters of the right age onscreen at the moment. (I'm sure Stan isn't old enough to have fathered Viv, unless Lorraine was guilty of a lot worse than adultery!) Two big characters from the show's past would be Sir Bruce Warner (near-impossible since his son is having a sexual relationship with Viv, plus Lorraine knew Chris was a Warner and would've outed her secret if it was resulting in incest) and Dr Michael McKenna (Rachel's father, but neither of his children are onscreen, unless the story is about Chris having it off with another ex's sister). So what is the payoff for this story? Lorraine was mistaken and Norm really is Viv's father? One thing I am sure is that the revelation will spark a Viv-Viliami affair. |
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Post by carld2 on Sept 5, 2022 19:46:27 GMT -5
Today's episode has Jack finally fed up with Dawn - but he expresses it in the most cringe-worthy, diva-esque manner possible. Your so-called bestie (when did they become besties???) confesses her engagement has ended (for the second time) and she's been sleeping rough in her car because she's too ashamed to admit the truth to her friends - and your reaction is, "you've been lying to me!" Then he goes on to question what kind of friendship they have without a shred of self-awareness. Ugh. I don't even like Dawn and I found her plight more sympathetic than Jack did. Yes they've cycled back to the extremist church (cult) which we all knew would happen someday. I wasn't expecting it to be a homophobic church but it makes sense - those things usually go hand in hand. (Whatever happened to the other cult that TK's cute nephew was a part of and that brainwashed him and Dawn into wanting one another?) I guess this means we're going to get the secret of Viv's paternity sooner rather than later. Madonna can't hold onto that forever. What I can't figure out is who Viv's dad might be. I mean, it has to be a character on the show, past or present, right? It doesn't make sense for all this buildup and then it's just some random. There aren't any characters of the right age onscreen at the moment. (I'm sure Stan isn't old enough to have fathered Viv, unless Lorraine was guilty of a lot worse than adultery!) Two big characters from the show's past would be Sir Bruce Warner (near-impossible since his son is having a sexual relationship with Viv, plus Lorraine knew Chris was a Warner and would've outed her secret if it was resulting in incest) and Dr Michael McKenna (Rachel's father, but neither of his children are onscreen, unless the story is about Chris having it off with another ex's sister). So what is the payoff for this story? Lorraine was mistaken and Norm really is Viv's father? One thing I am sure is that the revelation will spark a Viv-Viliami affair. I do think we're meant to see them as besties though, even if I see the relationship is toxic and tiresome, for the reasons you describe. I was going to say Jack has some of the sadder friendships for a gay man on soaps (two very needy women constantly in love drama and a man who is nearly 3 times his age [not that there's anything wrong with intergenerational friendships, it just reinforces how few gay men are in Ferndale]), but then I remembered characters like Aaron Dingle... I was going to ask if Marty's dead father could be the one, but that wouldn't bring much story... I keep forgetting about Viliami/Vivienne. I'm so confused about his relationships. I took a break for a while and I come back and he's in an open relationship with Viliami that he miserable in. I guess they are just stalling until he reconciles with Madonna, but he doesn't seem to actually like Madonna much either. He should just stay single. Or hook up with Jack. |
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Post by antistatic on Sept 7, 2022 8:07:18 GMT -5
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