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Post by antistatic on Sept 7, 2022 9:01:25 GMT -5
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Post by justinate on Sept 9, 2022 9:32:43 GMT -5
I've been cheering Jack on in the last two episodes - I can understand Rahu brushing aside her past crimes but what kind of mother is Esther, going to bat for the woman who held her and her minutes-old newborn daughter at gunpoint? Sadly, I can already tell we're supposed to see Jack as being in the wrong, the overly hysterical drama queen unfairly targeting poor, poor Steph. Too bad it's having the opposite effect on me.
They also had Monique hectoring Marty and had him act like a drunken fool so the sympathy would swing back to her side. At least Dawn didn't give in to her worst impulses and jump his bones again when he made a pass.
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Post by carld2 on Sept 11, 2022 8:46:00 GMT -5
I've been cheering Jack on in the last two episodes - I can understand Rahu brushing aside her past crimes but what kind of mother is Esther, going to bat for the woman who held her and her minutes-old newborn daughter at gunpoint? Sadly, I can already tell we're supposed to see Jack as being in the wrong, the overly hysterical drama queen unfairly targeting poor, poor Steph. Too bad it's having the opposite effect on me. They also had Monique hectoring Marty and had him act like a drunken fool so the sympathy would swing back to her side. At least Dawn didn't give in to her worst impulses and jump his bones again when he made a pass. I agree that Esther's reaction doesn't feel genuine (I wonder how long this niceness will last once she starts fighting for Rahu). I think they've done a decent job at times of showing why Jack is reacting the way he is (he only really went off on Steph when she made a dig about his family), but the story showcases just how isolated Jack is. He has no one he can vent to or be comforted by. Most of those around him take and never give. |
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Post by justinate on Sept 12, 2022 5:21:54 GMT -5
I agree that Esther's reaction doesn't feel genuine (I wonder how long this niceness will last once she starts fighting for Rahu). I think they've done a decent job at times of showing why Jack is reacting the way he is (he only really went off on Steph when she made a dig about his family), but the story showcases just how isolated Jack is. He has no one he can vent to or be comforted by. Most of those around him take and never give. Jack's scenes in today's episodes were dreadful. If they are going to make Steph out to be the heroine at Jack's expense, I think I may finally be done with this show. It's not like they even care to give him a love interest either. |
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Post by antistatic on Sept 15, 2022 3:45:00 GMT -5
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Post by justinate on Sept 15, 2022 5:39:45 GMT -5
How often is poor Jack going to be humiliated? I swear, it's the outcome of every story he's getting. On the heels of having to grovel to Steph (who NEVER apologized for maligning his late brother, who was murdered by her gangster dad), now he's got a crush on Rahu. Unless Rahu turns out to be bi - and I have bad flashbacks of the last time Jack managed to "turn" a straight guy, Cam McCaskill - this is simply YET another setup to stomp on Jack.
Isn't it bad enough that he was shown up by an unrepentant, murderous mob moll on her FIRST day of nursing without any qualifications, that he fell in love with a serial killer who played a part in his brother's murder, that widowed Rico would rather lust after a manipulative straight dude than Jack ... and that's just in the last year.
At least Louis was back for a guest stint - some nice eye candy to mollify me, even if he kept his shirt on the whole time. That observation made me realize Rahu's been on for a while, playing the hunk, but not had his shirt off even once. That's got to be some kind of record - and I can't imagine it's the actor's wishes since he's a boxer by profession and shouldn't have reservations about appearing topless in public.
Even for a show notorious for its breakneck pacing, the speed at which the beats of TK's paternity storyline are playing out is incredible.
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Post by kevvoi on Sept 15, 2022 8:37:28 GMT -5
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Post by carld2 on Sept 15, 2022 8:53:13 GMT -5
How often is poor Jack going to be humiliated? I swear, it's the outcome of every story he's getting. On the heels of having to grovel to Steph (who NEVER apologized for maligning his late brother, who was murdered by her gangster dad), now he's got a crush on Rahu. Unless Rahu turns out to be bi - and I have bad flashbacks of the last time Jack managed to "turn" a straight guy, Cam McCaskill - this is simply YET another setup to stomp on Jack. This is disappointing, as we had only seen them as bros up to now, with no hint of Jack being attracted to him. It may be because I don't find him that attractive myself (he's a nice guy, of course), but I don't really think he is Jack's type. And as Steph and Esther are already attracted to him this seems like a bit much. |
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Post by antistatic on Sept 15, 2022 13:51:04 GMT -5
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Post by anthonyl on Sept 16, 2022 1:21:19 GMT -5
How often is poor Jack going to be humiliated? I swear, it's the outcome of every story he's getting. On the heels of having to grovel to Steph (who NEVER apologized for maligning his late brother, who was murdered by her gangster dad), now he's got a crush on Rahu. Unless Rahu turns out to be bi - and I have bad flashbacks of the last time Jack managed to "turn" a straight guy, Cam McCaskill - this is simply YET another setup to stomp on Jack. This is disappointing, as we had only seen them as bros up to now, with no hint of Jack being attracted to him. It may be because I don't find him that attractive myself (he's a nice guy, of course), but I don't really think he is Jack's type. And as Steph and Esther are already attracted to him this seems like a bit much. Initially thought they would have a triangle with Jack/Rahu/Esther but then Steph came on the scene and they wrote Jack/Rahu as bros so I thought probably not. But with this new (and all of a sudden) plot point, and Steph is now gone, at least for now, maybe we'll find out Rahu is bi after all (or maybe fluid) and that triangle is forthcoming. I personally don't think Jack is being humiliated, nor has he in the past. I mean, he's a soap character, bad stuff is gonna happen. Every soap has a character who suffers one calamity after another but they someone don't want to kill themselves. LOL. On this show, it's Jack. He deserved to be called out for his nasty behavior towards Steph. It was rude and unprofessional. But I think that whole arc with Steph being back was to get Jack to get over his crap and move in with his life. His bitterness about Curtis' death and his messy relationship with Hamish was holding him back and now he's seeming to get over himself. I also wonder where his search for his long lost relatives is going to lead. Maybe they're going to rebuild his family after killing everyone off. Rahu will help with that, they'll get close and then Esther will stick her oar in. Probably not because this show seems to take turns you don't see coming. But that's my opinion. I know most don't care about the non-gay stories, but I thought the performance of the actress who plays Monique was great after she had her operation and realized she and Marty were done for good. It was the best part of a story that was all over the place and sometimes stupid. I'm surprised she went through with the operation. That's something you'd never see here in the States. But to do something when you're so young does seem very drastic. I'm wondering if Chris is being phased out though. He hasn't been on much and how that TK is staying on as CEO it seems like his role on the show is growing. I'm not sure how I feel given that TK's alpha-ness borders on being a complete ass to everyone in his life. This plot turn with his family owning the land the hospital is built on seems evidence of that. I suspect his sister won't be the first of his blood relatives to show up. BTW, I liked the Cam story. Except for Darryl or perhaps Charlie, he had the most chemistry with Jack. As for Rahu, I can see his appeal, though he doesn't do it for me. |
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Post by anthonyl on Sept 16, 2022 1:23:54 GMT -5
Oh. I was really nice to see Louis again, even though he's gone already. I just wish we could have gotten a scene with he and Jack since they'd been so close for a time.
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Post by antistatic on Sept 16, 2022 4:24:54 GMT -5
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Post by carld2 on Sept 16, 2022 6:40:41 GMT -5
I know most don't care about the non-gay stories, but I thought the performance of the actress who plays Monique was great after she had her operation and realized she and Marty were done for good. It was the best part of a story that was all over the place and sometimes stupid. I'm surprised she went through with the operation. That's something you'd never see here in the States. But to do something when you're so young does seem very drastic. I definitely care, but never am sure if it's too off topic (and the Youtube comments are generally just about how bad the writing for Jack is or how awful Jack is). I agree the actress who plays Monique is doing a good job in a messy story. She's always brought out the best in a character who goes all over the place. I never wanted her and Marty to be a permanent couple, although I guess they will reunite again at some point. |
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Post by kevvoi on Sept 16, 2022 10:09:02 GMT -5
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Post by justinate on Sept 21, 2022 9:12:05 GMT -5
Initially thought they would have a triangle with Jack/Rahu/Esther but then Steph came on the scene and they wrote Jack/Rahu as bros so I thought probably not. But with this new (and all of a sudden) plot point, and Steph is now gone, at least for now, maybe we'll find out Rahu is bi after all (or maybe fluid) and that triangle is forthcoming. I personally don't think Jack is being humiliated, nor has he in the past. I mean, he's a soap character, bad stuff is gonna happen. Every soap has a character who suffers one calamity after another but they someone don't want to kill themselves. LOL. On this show, it's Jack. He deserved to be called out for his nasty behavior towards Steph. It was rude and unprofessional. But I think that whole arc with Steph being back was to get Jack to get over his crap and move in with his life. His bitterness about Curtis' death and his messy relationship with Hamish was holding him back and now he's seeming to get over himself. I also wonder where his search for his long lost relatives is going to lead. Maybe they're going to rebuild his family after killing everyone off. Rahu will help with that, they'll get close and then Esther will stick her oar in. Probably not because this show seems to take turns you don't see coming. But that's my opinion. I know most don't care about the non-gay stories, but I thought the performance of the actress who plays Monique was great after she had her operation and realized she and Marty were done for good. It was the best part of a story that was all over the place and sometimes stupid. I'm surprised she went through with the operation. That's something you'd never see here in the States. But to do something when you're so young does seem very drastic. I'm wondering if Chris is being phased out though. He hasn't been on much and how that TK is staying on as CEO it seems like his role on the show is growing. I'm not sure how I feel given that TK's alpha-ness borders on being a complete ass to everyone in his life. This plot turn with his family owning the land the hospital is built on seems evidence of that. I suspect his sister won't be the first of his blood relatives to show up. BTW, I liked the Cam story. Except for Darryl or perhaps Charlie, he had the most chemistry with Jack. It's the portrayal of Steph as the victim of big bad Jack that I object to. She really is not his, or anybody else's victim. She should be in prison for what she did. She did not behave professionally either, but she never had to apologize? She threw Jack's dead brother - murdered in cold blood by her dad - in his face, but Jack has to apologize to her, while she smugly accepts his groveling? I feel like Jack has had more hardship/sorrow than most. Chris has been on the show for the better part of 30 years, and both his siblings are alive and I think all but one of his wives departed with their life intact. The Cam story was good at the outset, I agree he had great chemistry with Jack, but the ending was really offensive and humiliating for Jack - for Cam to say he was never actually into Jack and had only slept with him out of pity. Yikes! That never happened to Dawn, who is also unlucky in love. It feels like even she - despite a much shorter track record - gets to have more happiness than Jack. Sure, Ali died, but before that they had a suitable period of happiness together and a very grand wedding onscreen with celebrity guest stars and everything. Jack meanwhile also had a boyfriend who died of cancer - but he was diagnosed almost immediately after they got together - and his only wedding took place (and ended) offscreen. TK's chest-beating grew tiresome a long time ago, is it something the writers are unaware of or do they find it acceptable for a man to control his family (mainly the women) this way? Are they afraid of calling it out - in which case why don't they tone it down? |
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Post by justinate on Sept 28, 2022 8:05:49 GMT -5
Yet another recurring male character was introduced today (Brightshine pastor) but nobody for Jack. Dawn ended her engagement last month, Desi's newlywed husband is in a coma, yet both get new love interests before Jack. Rahu's been on the show for less than 6 months and is onto his THIRD. Jack looked especially pathetic on the dance floor. Did Reuben Milner run over a writer's puppy?
I also suspect Logan is in for an incel storyline. (Obviously they did one not that long ago with another paramedic and Louis's cute friend who's now starring in the gay film Punch that's playing in NZ cinemas, but when you burn through story at Shorty's pace, repeats are inevitable.) So please don't make him Jack's latest cross to bear.
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Post by carld2 on Sept 28, 2022 22:25:08 GMT -5
Yet another recurring male character was introduced today (Brightshine pastor) but nobody for Jack. Dawn ended her engagement last month, Desi's newlywed husband is in a coma, yet both get new love interests before Jack. Rahu's been on the show for less than 6 months and is onto his THIRD. Jack looked especially pathetic on the dance floor. Did Reuben Milner run over a writer's puppy? I also suspect Logan is in for an incel storyline. (Obviously they did one not that long ago with another paramedic and Louis's cute friend who's now starring in the gay film Punch that's playing in NZ cinemas, but when you burn through story at Shorty's pace, repeats are inevitable.) So please don't make him Jack's latest cross to bear. I guess you could say Desi's was from last year and only brought back because one of her main scene partners is gone, but I do agree with you. It seems like the show only lets people have romances if they are plot-based, and Jack is now fully in support mode, so he doesn't get one. I assume the Christmas cliffhanger is going to involve Brightshine, which is pulling various characters in. I did wonder if Jack would ever be involved there, but the show seems to have made a point of saying they are not anti-gay (although that may be something they're saving up as a reveal once Maeve's family is fully hooked in). |
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Post by justinate on Oct 6, 2022 7:12:31 GMT -5
Um, are they going there with Jack and Raj?! But is Jack really going to be the homewrecker of a married couple whose only child is missing?
Also, Tom is still a jackass, and now Vili is joining him in that category.
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Post by carld2 on Oct 6, 2022 11:08:44 GMT -5
Um, are they going there with Jack and Raj?! But is Jack really going to be the homewrecker of a married couple whose only child is missing? Also, Tom is still a jackass, and now Vili is joining him in that category. It will end badly, but they did have some chemistry today. Is this story with Tom just going to have him with a Facetime or two, or is he coming back? Unless they're looking for a reason to write out Amelie and split Chris/Vivienne, it makes no sense that we should think Tom has much chance of getting custody of a child he was only close to for half a year, over her very rich and powerful biological grandfather. |
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Post by anthonyl on Oct 8, 2022 23:27:28 GMT -5
Of course it's going to end badly. It's going to get very messy, I think. But it's a soap and I'm here for it. I do think it's kind of out of character for Jack to pursue a married man though. He tends to be preachy about cheaters. And what does he hope to gain from this? Raj certainly isn't going to leave his wife and family for Jack. He can never be anything but a side piece in this scenario. I do prefer older men for Jack and they have chemistry.
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Post by carld2 on Oct 9, 2022 10:57:55 GMT -5
Of course it's going to end badly. It's going to get very messy, I think. But it's a soap and I'm here for it. I do think it's kind of out of character for Jack to pursue a married man though. He tends to be preachy about cheaters. And what does he hope to gain from this? Raj certainly isn't going to leave his wife and family for Jack. He can never be anything but a side piece in this scenario. I do prefer older men for Jack and they have chemistry. I wonder if this is being done to have Jack address his daddy issues. He no longer has TK or Chris as involved in his life, and his father is dead. Stanley, whom he's only known this past year, helps fill that void, but is seemingly near-death every other month. I'm mostly confused about why the show had hints of him falling for Rahu only to move into this, but Raj is incredibly hot, and he and Jack do have real chemistry, so I hope this can develop rather than just a few weeks of melodrama before Jack is on the sidelines again. |
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Post by kevvoi on Oct 9, 2022 16:23:14 GMT -5
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Post by kevvoi on Oct 10, 2022 8:08:54 GMT -5
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Post by kevvoi on Oct 12, 2022 6:09:37 GMT -5
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Post by kevvoi on Oct 13, 2022 6:23:47 GMT -5
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