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Post by anthonyl on Jun 16, 2022 17:26:40 GMT -5
Show needs a new hunk, frequently semi naked, stat.
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Post by justinate on Jun 17, 2022 9:05:09 GMT -5
Thanks for posting that. As this show gets so little focus on cast departures if the actors don't tell us we won't know... It has felt like Louis has been on the way out for a good while now, with several false exits. I wonder if he agreed to stay on for the anniversary and also for Shereez's return. I'll miss him (and that means another character gone that I genuinely care about while a number I am tired of are going nowhere). Wonder what this means for CeCe. I could see her heading out this year as well. Oh I definitely didn't mean a Stanley/Jack pairing...sadly I don't think we will see much more of Stanley, one way or another. I think your theory about him dying is likely. I mostly meant I could see Jack making more sense with a daddy figure at this point, if they want to explore that side of him. I see that man-eater Lovely is back. Does the show bring new actors in for guest stints and then just bring them back if they get a positive enough audience response? I guess either she is going to end up stealing from or preying on Stanley (or accidentally causing his death) or Jack is going to have her move in and she seduces Marty, or Dawn's boyfriend. (unless they are going to drop Vivienne/Villiami and go for Lovely/Villiami) Jack's depressing stories have gotten to the point where I was actually a bit surprised when today's episode didn't begin with Jack or Lovely finding Stan dead in his bed the morning after the birthday party for Malcolm. So Jack is having fun dating (or rather, one-night stands) ... entirely offscreen. Of course he is. Then again, lesbian couple Leanne and Ros broke up after a year together without even seeing Ros onscreen, so things can always be worse. I do think this may be the end of the road for CeCe once she learns that TK cheated or she herself cheats with Drew. There is nothing/no one left for her in Ferndale after that. She may well move to Samoa to be with Soph. It's hard to believe the Kings only arrived on the show 3 years ago. In that time, they've certainly had a LOT of story - I realize that the show actually brought the King saga full circle when Louis got upset over how glibly CeCe spoke about his grandmother's suicide (that was really out of line and out of character for CeCe!) because that was pretty much their first plot. It looks like Madonna and Vili are a bust, Chris is flirting with his dark side trying to undermine TK, and Vivienne's parents (of whom she doesn't seem fond) have popped up. Normally I'd say it's the perfect storm for Vili and Viv to get together, but then we also have Jojo hanging around like a bad smell. Vili is a good-looking guy but not all that to have three women (four if Lovely decides to take a stab) lusting after him. Show needs a new hunk, frequently semi naked, stat. I'd gladly welcome that - especially if he was destined for Jack - but I'm not sure the show feels the same way. |
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Post by anthonyl on Jun 17, 2022 18:47:48 GMT -5
I don’t find Jack’s stories depressing. It’s all typical soap fare. Every soap has a good hearted character who’s life is filled with tragedy. I’m just glad they keep writing for him. And since he’s dating again I suspect a new problematic boyfriend is around the corner.
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Post by antistatic on Jun 19, 2022 7:53:49 GMT -5
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Post by antistatic on Jun 19, 2022 8:36:13 GMT -5
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Post by antistatic on Jun 19, 2022 9:21:59 GMT -5
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Post by carld2 on Jun 24, 2022 4:04:36 GMT -5
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Post by justinate on Jun 27, 2022 8:55:27 GMT -5
I don’t find Jack’s stories depressing. It’s all typical soap fare. Every soap has a good hearted character who’s life is filled with tragedy. I’m just glad they keep writing for him. And since he’s dating again I suspect a new problematic boyfriend is around the corner. I just feel that, even for a soap character, Jack's had an unusual amount of grief - and any happy period is extremely short-lived or tainted from the beginning. I don't think any other character has had such a string of bad luck in the romance department. He's lost a boyfriend to cancer within days of getting together, AND been told by their boyfriend they were never even attracted to him, AND got engaged to his own brother's killer. Contrast with Esther, who has been off and on with Curtis for years before they killed him off. She's had two kids. Even as she bids goodbye to Curtis, and has Marty waiting in the wings, there's already a THIRD hunk mooning over her. Jack, meanwhile, is relegated to offscreen dates. I really hope this does not mean they're going to be a major part of the show. I would rather have Vili with Vivienne. I think Chris-Viv are headed for a breakup when her mother dies and with Vili a free agent, it might be the right time for them to get together. Madonna can go kick rocks. I'm also liking Drew-Cece together - the actress is glamorous when she's out of character but the show's stylists make her very matronly, and the opposite of what Drew would usually go for. I would've liked Louis to be on the show when that happened though, given his friendship with Drew. |
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Post by carld2 on Jun 27, 2022 9:50:54 GMT -5
I don’t find Jack’s stories depressing. It’s all typical soap fare. Every soap has a good hearted character who’s life is filled with tragedy. I’m just glad they keep writing for him. And since he’s dating again I suspect a new problematic boyfriend is around the corner. I just feel that, even for a soap character, Jack's had an unusual amount of grief - and any happy period is extremely short-lived or tainted from the beginning. I don't think any other character has had such a string of bad luck in the romance department. He's lost a boyfriend to cancer within days of getting together, AND been told by their boyfriend they were never even attracted to him, AND got engaged to his own brother's killer. Contrast with Esther, who has been off and on with Curtis for years before they killed him off. She's had two kids. Even as she bids goodbye to Curtis, and has Marty waiting in the wings, there's already a THIRD hunk mooning over her. Jack, meanwhile, is relegated to offscreen dates. I really hope this does not mean they're going to be a major part of the show. I imagine Logan will be around for a while but I have my doubts about Jojo. They tend to do these articles with even temporary actors - the woman who played the dead lady cop got one. I agree about Jack. I think the breezy general style Reuben Milner plays Jack with when he isn't in crisis mode hides just how much misery they have piled onto Jack. On the one hand, it's a soap, but it feels like all this loss has not really been allowed to inform or develop Jack the way it has with, say, Esther. These things just happen to Jack. Jack has some friends, but not a great deal of roots, and to be honest, I don't think most of his friends (especially Dawn) care as much about him as he does about them. I don't think Jack needs to be a starring character (and I don't know why he has to be the only queer man on the show either), but the balance just isn't right. Esther overload and love of my live #4 or #5 for her arriving is one of the reasons I have taken a break from the show, aside from reading posts here and watching some Jack clips. I've just had my fill of the same characters playing the same beats. |
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Post by antistatic on Jun 28, 2022 4:04:25 GMT -5
New clip from Anthony:
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Post by justinate on Jun 29, 2022 9:27:12 GMT -5
So, Desi's hunky doctor cousin Rahu is staying in Ferndale - as a result of her typically vile machinations (when will she actually suffer consequences for these?) - so Esther gets to have yet another love interest on tap. And Jack has ... none. The problem for me is that Esther's happiness feels unearned. Like right now, the show clearly wants us to think Marty is the bad guy who isn't being reasonable about Esther. The only thing that could save this story is if one (or both) of her two men turn gay for Jack and leave her in the dust. But that has about as much chance of happening as Vivienne's mother does of surviving with a hospital staff that doesn't seem to realize she has a fever? Anyway, here's some eye candy at least. Apparently Žak Martin who plays Rahu is a professional boxer - I thought that was why they made a big deal out of him popping over for Desi's wedding - but now it looks like he will be a permanent cast member? http://instagram.com/p/B2vqdXYAaqI |
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Post by dylan on Jun 29, 2022 12:57:28 GMT -5
I'm so sick of Esther. I've been tired of her for a long time but lately she has become really insufferable imo. Her behaviour after the car accident was appalling. I don't understand why she (and TK) were so insistent on blocking Jojo's grandfather's surgery. And the fact that she was so determined to stop his surgery while obsessing over the woman who caused the accident was at best not a good look. Jojo having a go at her was well deserved. And regarding Marty, I totally understand that she is grieving Curtis, but that isn't an excuse to mistreat him all the time. So tiresome. I wish the writers had just written her out with Curtis rather than killing him off. Her having a happy ending with him after all that they had been through would have been the perfect exit for her character.
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Post by carld2 on Jun 29, 2022 17:40:46 GMT -5
Esther is just overexposed, and has no one on the show to call her out, other than Monique, who is not meant to be taken seriously. The show is flooded with women who behave selfishly and/or stupidly and are praised or coddled at every turn. Desi and Dawn are at least quasi-comedic characters, but Esther is meant to be taken seriously, so her childishness, petulance, and worst of all, the choice to ALWAYS have two men on deck for her makes the character look pathetic, because even if you don't hate the character, you are going to be tired of this roundelay (in the last few years alone, we have gone from Curtis/Esther/Eddie to this guy/Esther/Marty). It's also very disrespectful to Curtis to say he can be replaced after six months.
Choosing to go for Esther/Marty to just show that he isn't enough for her, was a terrible choice, one that diminished both characters. It really gave the game away on problems in the writing.
For a show with such turnover, I am simply fed up with the characters who keep getting spotlighted.
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Post by kevvoi on Jul 6, 2022 20:24:24 GMT -5
New clips courtesy of Anthony:
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Post by antistatic on Jul 8, 2022 4:17:06 GMT -5
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Post by antistatic on Jul 8, 2022 12:08:07 GMT -5
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Post by justinate on Jul 11, 2022 15:16:17 GMT -5
Nothing to do with Shorty but before Louis met Zach, his best friend was River, who was later exposed as an incel and terrorist accomplice. River's portrayer Jordan Oosterhof is starring in an upcoming gay feature film "Punch", as a teen boxer who falls for another boy in small town Aotearoa NZ. Probably will squeeze in better gay storytelling in an hour and a half than Shorty has for Jack in months. http://instagram.com/p/Cf3LszbBOdW |
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Post by carld2 on Jul 11, 2022 18:29:44 GMT -5
Great find justinate I don't know what to even say about current story. I see Dawn, like Esther, is repeating the same story and exhausting any good will. The best I can comment is at least we get some nice location footage. |
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Post by anthonyl on Jul 11, 2022 19:17:10 GMT -5
According to Facebook the Dawn actress is really leaving.
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Post by carld2 on Jul 12, 2022 15:59:54 GMT -5
According to Facebook the Dawn actress is really leaving. If true, it was time, although I wish the actress the best of luck. I'm also curious to see what friendship group Jack will be in now as he and Dawn had been close the last year. He still has Esther, of course, but hopefully they can expand his horizons. |
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Post by dylan on Jul 12, 2022 17:14:05 GMT -5
If they keep this up, there won't be any characters left in a year's time. I've never seen the cast list this empty before. I agree that it was time, though. Her character was so tiresome.
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Post by justinate on Jul 13, 2022 14:33:13 GMT -5
Jack lets go of a huge love is how they describe his friendship with Dawn? Seriously...
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Post by kevvoi on Jul 14, 2022 7:05:14 GMT -5
New clips courtesy of Anthony:
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Post by antistatic on Jul 14, 2022 14:01:49 GMT -5
Anthony has this one down as part 349 but I think it's actually part 348
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Post by carld2 on Jul 14, 2022 20:56:03 GMT -5
Adios, Dawn. Her exit is ambiguous enough that I won't be surprised if she comes back in six months or so. But for now I'm glad for the break. And I hope they figure out where to take Jack.
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