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Post by spherical07 on Apr 13, 2012 16:50:51 GMT -5
I guess straight women, like myself, are rare who would rather watch the gay storylines versus the same old heterosexual ones that we live day in and day out.
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Post by fabfairy on Apr 13, 2012 18:31:30 GMT -5
From what I remember the storyline for Relaciones Peligrosas was focused on Teens and the advertising was based around that. They when out and promoted it that way as well. The show itself was hijacked by the writer who forgot what the it was all about. The drugs and underage sex could certainly be its own show as I have said before. The rating failed because what was offered and what we got were two different things. I doubt in the long run that they will be able to save it if you don't follow the teens storyline as advertised you will lose the adult veiwers and if you follow the Adult storyline you'll lose the Teens. The storyline should have been split when they retooled the show that way they may have saved both shows instead of losing the viewers.
In a previous post I spoke about centring a show about the latin community and found it offensive that any section of the community should be shown that way. That should have sent a clear message to the Producer and Writers that the viewers were not happy with the direction of the show and that is bourne out by the ratings. It is just dumb not to be listening and continue with the same old crap The fact they they didn't show the Gay Kiss probably has more to do with the fact that it is an election year in the US than anything else and may have killed off Ales and Diego at the same time. For a country that is supposed to be liberal it is still very prudish.
It should also be remembered that while we may or may not be watching this on TV and affecting the rating we are still an important part of the process. If a show is great we will tell our friends who would watch and if it is crap we tell our friends and they will stop watching. I think TV Stations pay as much attention to Social Media as much as they do the rating and comments on a show.
They may pretend to jump up and down about copyright but the truth is that it is free advertising for the latest production and away of getting it out there and discussed. The long term view is that if it is good and rates well it will attract interest from other parts of the world and may then be exported. It is a clear and valid point with the proof being that so may shows are on places like You Tube without any problems.
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Post by mycatfox on Apr 13, 2012 18:43:22 GMT -5
I know that visibility is really important, and I'm very happy every time the gay issue is addressed by the media...but I've been wondering lately why some shows decide to tackle such a ( still) controversial matter if at the end of the day they're going to shamelessly chicken out?  I'm really curious, because I know that if a gay storyline is well done (good & charismatic actors, good scripts) attracts a significant amount of viewers more. There are several examples of shows that greatly benefited with the inclusion of this kind of stories ( "America" (Brazil, 2005), and "Botineras" (Argentina, 2009) come to my mind; the Argentinian soap opera was seriously struggling with the ratings until the producers introduced a gay storyline: the ratings went up significantly and the novela avoided its sure cancellation  ) It looks like there is a lot of improvisation in this business  ... |
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Post by fabfairy on Apr 13, 2012 20:48:41 GMT -5
mycatfox I've seen some really great South American Movies as well "Burnt Money" and "City of no Limits" to name a couple so it doesn't make sense to me that Relaciones Peligrosas is so bad when there is a capablility to produce good work. The two things that can destroy a serial quicker than you can blink are Homophobia as it is proved that this will keep a focus on being gay as something bad or evil and look what your life will be if you are gay. And more importantly a failure to listen to your viewers as has happened here. Burying your head in the sand and not reading your rating correctly can make a great show fail or a crappy show succeed. As the turn around time between filming and showing is so short with Relaciones Peligrosas I find it weird that they are not being more responsive to viewers needs, It makes no sense what so ever.
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Post by niceone on Apr 13, 2012 21:19:10 GMT -5
Well today we see some Ale looking at Diego kissing that other female we dont speak the name of... Hoping for some more screen time.... |
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Post by fabfairy on Apr 13, 2012 23:36:23 GMT -5
Perhaps niceone that is all we will ever see. They don't seem that interested in the Ales/Diego Story at all.
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Post by Ómar on Apr 14, 2012 11:10:07 GMT -5
Love this pic, it's so cute. Two of my favorites   |
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Post by Ómar on Apr 16, 2012 22:09:04 GMT -5
No Diego or Ale so here is a pic instead  |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2012 22:14:45 GMT -5
than what was the point of them showing what happened the last episode with diego and Nora if they weren't showing them tonight
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Post by Ómar on Apr 18, 2012 12:54:53 GMT -5
This is kind of off topic
Necesito que me contacte un español que haya ido a la escuela en españa, una mexicano que haya ido a la escuela en méxico y un colombiano que haya ido a la escuela en colombia. Por Favor y gracias de antemano.
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Post by Ómar on Apr 19, 2012 2:09:26 GMT -5
Kevin Aponter (Ale) will do a tweecam at 6 pm eastern time (USA) on Saturday 21st along wiht Cristina Mason (Nora).
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Post by blpoints on Apr 19, 2012 14:03:28 GMT -5
I want to give Omar a big shout out for subtitling the last season on FOQ. I had no idea that David and Fer were having problems before the death. BTW- i think Fer and David were the best actors for a gay couple out of all the shows on this board. They looked totally natural kissing and being together, not like just trying to get the scene over with (yes, I'm talking to you Danny Miller and Jake Silbermann)!
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Post by HQ75 on Apr 19, 2012 19:37:56 GMT -5
Maybe the FAQ comment should go in the FAQ thread?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2012 21:07:22 GMT -5
I SWEAR THIS WHOLE SHOW IS A JOKE
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Post by Ómar on Apr 19, 2012 21:41:24 GMT -5
Diego and Ale kissed!! (kiss was mostly censored again) but it happened while Diego's dad was watching, and both guys were sober!!
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Post by Duskysoda on Apr 19, 2012 21:50:43 GMT -5
So since this is half in a spoiler and will not be so in 20 minutes, just highlight to read. Diego and Ale kissed!! (kiss was mostly censored again) but it happened while Diego's dad was watching, and both guys were sober!! At least better thank Anything. Highlight above! more censorship? pathetic,,,,such a sad lil telenovela... |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2012 21:50:50 GMT -5
just got thrown a bone with Ale and Diego you might be happy and kinda disappointed
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Post by Duskysoda on Apr 19, 2012 21:52:51 GMT -5
I want to give Omar a big shout out for subtitling the last season on FOQ. I had no idea that David and Fer were having problems before the death. BTW- i think Fer and David were the best actors for a gay couple out of all the shows on this board. They looked totally natural kissing and being together, not like just trying to get the scene over with (yes, I'm talking to you Danny Miller and Jake Silbermann)! oh my lord,,, this is ancient history and perfect for the FOQ thread that still exists on the Gays of Daytime |
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Post by Ómar on Apr 19, 2012 21:54:00 GMT -5
I may not be so happy about the "bone" but I'm happy of who got to see action. At least that wil make things progress.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2012 21:56:12 GMT -5
exactly i think people will be happy but a little disappointed that it wasn't shown
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Post by Duskysoda on Apr 19, 2012 22:05:15 GMT -5
If the kiss isn't shown,, its useless... the soap should just get rid of anyone gay and go back to what appeals to its audience... hetero rape scenes,,, abuse of black minorities,,, and all these profoundly moral scenes its viewers care about...  |
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Post by Ómar on Apr 19, 2012 22:11:39 GMT -5
yes, Rick, they will be happy about the kiss itself, but no so much about the censorship.
Duskysoda, I don't see how the kiss is useless? Maybe to the viewer in a way because the kiss wasn't known, it only showed when they parted, but the Dad still saw. So at least for the dad, it wasn't useless.
haha, sorry I just had to laugh a bit at your second part. There was only once (in the very beginning) that there was almost a rape scene. And Cassius has been out for some time. I believe he's in another state at the moment. I just hope that soon they will show more of Ale. Today he was actually shooting some material for RP.
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Post by Duskysoda on Apr 19, 2012 22:28:05 GMT -5
yes... I meant useless for viewers who care about seeing 2 guys treated like other characters on soaps who like one another. But true... I'm sure the Dad seeing it will advance RP's storyline where Papa will once again call Ale "that thing" and eventually lead to him expressing that very modern notion that Ale made his son Diego gay thru Ale's wicked, satanic and crafty methods... it's so 2012!
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Post by fabfairy on Apr 19, 2012 22:35:55 GMT -5
HUH?? This is confusing did or did they not show the kiss?
Or are we talking about the first kiss here.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2012 22:42:08 GMT -5
there was a kiss tonight it was censored but you actually see Ale pulling back from it and the father saw it
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