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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2011 0:14:17 GMT -5
YES!!!!! ;D ;D I love those two! OK, I know I am off topic, but I just wanted to confirm! Yay! Do you know they are coming back for a third season? (I think) God, I was so into them at some point, not so much anymore. Love Geoff. Love adorkable Pavel. Ok. Back to Olli, who was looking FINE in this episode. I loved his poses at the end. Gorgeous head shots. Gimme some of that. Yep, there's a reason I have "They are coming back" under my avatar! and I agree, I LOVE those last poses. Actually those stares at the camera, they were so sad but so intense at the same time.
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Post by shiyo on Aug 24, 2011 0:17:06 GMT -5
LOL, I totally didnt read what is under your avatar, just looking at Geoff and his big hair.
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Post by lolaruns on Aug 24, 2011 0:59:02 GMT -5
I'm hard pressed to say which I loved more. Olli/Ansgar exchanging barbs or Olli getting to tell off Tanja. I think I'm gonna go with Tanja though. I also really liked the mini photoshoot at the end (yes, even Jessica's bit of it). Probably because compared to the one at the factory this one seemed at least potentially realistic. (I also have to say, for a minor bitplayer, I rather like the photographer guy)
I had to skip over Jessica approaching that guy at NL for Olli though. Too much fremdschäm, though I have to say I thought Olli was kinda adorable the way he tried to claim he wasn't interested in that guy.
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Post by bel7003 on Aug 24, 2011 2:19:40 GMT -5
I've just watched MM's vid ( thank you, MM ) and I have to say: I looooved Olli/Ansgar. I didn't know Ansgar was bothered by Olli's sexual orientation. I wonder... ;D And Olli was great with Tanja, too. But I didn't know he had done professional modelling. I understand Olli's need for a new start, but I'm worried about his being "owned" by Tanja. He's lonely and unhappy, but joining Tanja and Jessica? I can totally understand Charlie. I liked it that she said she hadn't always made everything right, but she tried. That's what happens with real parents. And Jessica called Andi "my construction friend" and even patted him on the shoulder. And he was all for it. (I got framed for rape and almost ended up in jail due to who ;D) Even Olli looked surprised Andi took it so well. As for Olli and Christian... bitching at each other, as usual. But it's so clear that they are totally jealous of each other, still. Although this s/l makes less and less sense, I think the guys acted in character, today. Olli saw Christian's look and couldn't help wanting to talk about it, maybe get something decent out of Christian, but Christian is hurt too and he built that wall around him and acts like he couldn't care less. But, of course, he could only think about the groupies and the guys Olli is going to shag. ;D Olli's last pic... stunning. (Although very sad! )
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Post by candyflossuk on Aug 24, 2011 2:38:41 GMT -5
Right now, I feel that Christian's "missing the docileness" of Olli, more than the "itensity" of him, by how he's reacting. Yes that's exactly it. And that's the reason he (and Charlie) apparently don't recognise him anymore. Because the old Oli would have given in months ago. But this new is standing up for himself and they don't know how to handle that. It was so sad to see Oli tell Charlie exactly how crappy he was feeling and for her to act in such a way. Why does she spend so much time defending and trying to understand Christian's feelings but criticises every damn thing Oli does? If she'd listened to him right from the start then maybe she'd still 'recognise' him. The current Charlie/Christian dynamic is just horrible. I have images of them sat around the flat bitching about Oli ad judging his every little movement. Then Christian runs to Oli with his 'Charlie says this...' attitude and Oli probably feels more alone than ever. No wonder he's resorted to befriending Jessica....
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2011 2:47:12 GMT -5
Thank you Joanna for the caps . this one is breaking my heart ...so beautiful and sad at the same time
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Post by ncecho on Aug 24, 2011 7:49:01 GMT -5
Christian was a complete a__hole which I figured he would be. But I am afraid that Charlie was right and Olli doesn't know what he has gotten himself into signing with Tanja. The last thing Tanja said to him-Now you are mine, did not sound good. I hope this modeling thing would go great but I have a feeling it is not. Olli needs something good in his life and I hope he will get it soon.
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Post by philos on Aug 24, 2011 8:34:29 GMT -5
Christian was a complete a__hole which I figured he would be. But I am afraid that Charlie was right and Olli doesn't know what he has gotten himself into signing with Tanja. The last thing Tanja said to him-Now you are mine, did not sound good. I hope this modeling thing would go great but I have a feeling it is not. Olli needs something good in his life and I hope he will get it soon. so this could be another occasion to reunite them; Tanya will hit Olli and Christian will go to the rescue! ;D
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Post by Trish on Aug 24, 2011 8:41:10 GMT -5
Christian was a complete a__hole which I figured he would be. But I am afraid that Charlie was right and Olli doesn't know what he has gotten himself into signing with Tanja. The last thing Tanja said to him-Now you are mine, did not sound good. I hope this modeling thing would go great but I have a feeling it is not. Olli needs something good in his life and I hope he will get it soon. so this could be another occasion to reunite them; Tanya will hit Olli and Christian will go to the rescue! ;D I have started to wonder if Christian will fianlly get a clue, just as Olli has been pulled into Tanja's web and he will have to save him from himself, because since this is Jessica's big break, I don't think that she would.
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Post by pru on Aug 24, 2011 11:53:49 GMT -5
Tell it, shiyo, Olli's head shots were stunning and I wish I were on the show because once I got done have a conversation with him he would never feel unattractive again.
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Post by kira on Aug 24, 2011 11:58:38 GMT -5
No Chrolli, Christian or Olli today.
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Post by bkoz on Aug 24, 2011 11:59:35 GMT -5
Thanks kira.
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Post by pru on Aug 24, 2011 12:00:13 GMT -5
OMG that picture of Olli is so freaky hot.
I just want to cup his face and kiss his face off.
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Post by blaykee on Aug 24, 2011 12:03:57 GMT -5
Thanks for the info Kira.
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Post by shiyo on Aug 24, 2011 12:05:06 GMT -5
Get in line, Pru. Plenty of us want to make kissy face with Olli .
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Post by pru on Aug 24, 2011 15:33:28 GMT -5
Get in line, Pru. Plenty of us want to make kissy face with Olli . I guess I'm going to have to open up a can of whup ass to get to the head of the line.
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Post by lolaruns on Aug 24, 2011 15:50:20 GMT -5
I guess this fits better here: I kinda wish Helena had stood up for herself more. Tristan was very quick to put the blame on Ludwig. And while I do think that Ludwig is a slimy arse, Helena had plenty of time to walk away from the coverup and she wasn't always high. She had several times when she came to that decision herself too, not just due to Ludwig. They did give me a very odd Chrolli flashback moment when Tristan said "Sorry, I was such an idiot" before pulling Helena into a hug and promising that they would get through this together. A very Christian line ;D www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlF5GZ_3cDIOn the show the point of the gun scene was that Tanja was that Tanja said she could never harm him and that she was upset that he didn't trust her. Personally I think she asks too much. It's not like they ever talked about these things, she just assumes he must know that (and she has trouble expressing herself too like a certain someone ) . Hehe, exactly the kind of thing I complain about with Chrolli too, that it's not fair to ask the other person to be a mind reader.
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Post by gelybi on Aug 24, 2011 20:20:13 GMT -5
They have destroyed Christian in my eyes. I understand Olli. I know he's not perfent no one is but Olli loved Christian like crazy as he told Olivia that time Christian was going to use steriods. Christian was Olli world he was first person in a long time that he loved and he would do anything for Christian. Christian crushed his spirit when he cheated on him, Christian did the one thing that Olli fear the most that he would go back to dating women again and his fear came true. That's why Olli is so hurt and feeling lonely because he thought him and Christian would be together forever and thought Christian was his soulmate his one and only. Dalphine this is exactly what I'd been saying for months. No matter how or why Olli was betrayed (the whole endless discussion of who of them is more to blame) he invested everything on his relantionship with Christian and never thought it'd end so badly. And of course being the caring and sensitive soul he is, this break up is totally destroying him. His world was turned upside down and I feel all this is killing his soul. He just don't think (and probably don't want without Christian) he'll ever be that happy again, and at the same time thinks that complete happiness he once had was not real.
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Post by LadyArmand on Aug 24, 2011 21:25:39 GMT -5
They have destroyed Christian in my eyes. I understand Olli. I know he's not perfent no one is but Olli loved Christian like crazy as he told Olivia that time Christian was going to use steriods. Christian was Olli world he was first person in a long time that he loved and he would do anything for Christian. Christian crushed his spirit when he cheated on him, Christian did the one thing that Olli fear the most that he would go back to dating women again and his fear came true. That's why Olli is so hurt and feeling lonely because he thought him and Christian would be together forever and thought Christian was his soulmate his one and only. Dalphine this is exactly what I'd been saying for months. No matter how or why Olli was betrayed (the whole endless discussion of who of them is more to blame) he invested everything on his relantionship with Christian and never thought it'd end so badly. And of course being the caring and sensitive soul he is, this break up is totally destroying him. His world was turned upside down and I feel all this is killing his soul. He just don't think (and probably don't want without Christian) he'll ever be that happy again, and at the same time thinks that complete happiness he once had was not real. This is the one thing I don’t think Christian or Charlie have taken into account when dealing with Olli and how he’s handled all of this. For Olli it’s not just about the cheating although that would be bad enough, it’s also about what Christian has done since then. The first person he’s hooked up with since their break up is a woman. This tells Olli (whether it’s true or not) that for Christian there was always something lacking in his relationship with Olli. That there was something that no matter how much he loved Olli he would always be missing. That Christian hooked up with a woman so soon after they split is for Olli an indication that everything he fears about Christian is true. That he’s not enough and he never was. That in the end Christian will always go back to women. Therefore, what they had wasn’t really true. What Christian felt for Olli to Olli was an anomaly. And he has to think this way (at least for now) because he can’t see himself trusting Christian like that again. He has to defend himself in this way right now because the pain of it is too much to live through again if he were to allow Christian back into his life as a lover and husband. Right now Olli believes that Christian is lying to himself every time he says he loves Olli and that what they shared was real. And because he’s lying to himself he’s lying to Olli as well. Because it cannot be true that Christian loved him as much as he says he did and says he does and hurt him the way he has, and continues to hurt him the way he does. He can’t take that step back and see it as something real for both of them. Because once he does that, he can really let Christian go and move on.
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Post by Trish on Aug 24, 2011 21:39:27 GMT -5
I can buy that reasoning for when he broke up with Chirstian, but that should make it easier for him to move on. Not harder. It's not his fault and there''s nothing that he can do about it. That' doesn't explain the felling old aspect that has been brought into the mix now.
He wen to Majorca to clear his head and found a guy that was young and sure of his sexuality that wanted him and he made feel good, or at least when he came back, he pretended to have a new confidence and stood up to Chrisitan like he hadn't in a long time.
He even went and met another young man, it didn't turn out well and that idn't go well. You can't blame that on Christian. That was all on that guy. Then you had the ad that went wrong. Adding insult to his already fragile ego. Once again you can't blame that on Chrisitan. Christian never made issue of Olli's age. I guess you can claim, that in Olli's head, that he might think that might be another reason that Chrisiatn didn't want him, but really it's another sign of how Olli gets ideas in his head and he refuses to let them go.
Olli is in a bad way, I don't deny it and maybe Charlie didn't use the best appoach, but I think she feels that Olli would isten to reason. While we all know that Oli's sense of reason left him when Christian cheated on him.
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Post by pru on Aug 24, 2011 22:12:07 GMT -5
They have destroyed Christian in my eyes. I understand Olli. I know he's not perfent no one is but Olli loved Christian like crazy as he told Olivia that time Christian was going to use steriods. Christian was Olli world he was first person in a long time that he loved and he would do anything for Christian. Christian crushed his spirit when he cheated on him, Christian did the one thing that Olli fear the most that he would go back to dating women again and his fear came true. That's why Olli is so hurt and feeling lonely because he thought him and Christian would be together forever and thought Christian was his soulmate his one and only. Dalphine this is exactly what I'd been saying for months. No matter how or why Olli was betrayed (the whole endless discussion of who of them is more to blame) he invested everything on his relantionship with Christian and never thought it'd end so badly. And of course being the caring and sensitive soul he is, this break up is totally destroying him. His world was turned upside down and I feel all this is killing his soul. He just don't think (and probably don't want without Christian) he'll ever be that happy again, and at the same time thinks that complete happiness he once had was not real. Exactly, like he was nothing but an experiment and now Christian is back to being straight and having a girlfriend, after he swore up and down he wasn't the least bit interested in women...yet he can't stop himself from having sex with one on a daily basis.
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Post by angelarose on Aug 24, 2011 23:06:39 GMT -5
Funny how the concept of bisexuality seems to have disappeared from Olli's consciousness, especially since he used to identify himself as such.
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Post by blaykee on Aug 24, 2011 23:09:32 GMT -5
Funny how the concept of bisexuality seems to have disappeared from Olli's consciousness, especially since he used to identify himself as such. yeah
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Post by pru on Aug 25, 2011 0:39:08 GMT -5
Yeah but like he told Christian that day in the hallway, after he was back from Majorca, he didn't stray back over to the straight side and knows he's gay.
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Post by blaykee on Aug 25, 2011 0:40:05 GMT -5
Then Olli should tell the writers and Jo.
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