Chandler Massey / Will Horton

[WillNSonny]

Jul 24, 2012 4:28:45 GMT -5 jjose712 said:

The rush? Come on, it's more than a year since Sonny was introduced. After all the coming out drama, and this who kill Stefano nonsense, it's time for a little romance.

And it's time to tell your suppose best friend (Chad) that you are gay

Exactly! They have been established as friends for over a year and we already know Sonny loves Will and it sounds like the same will soon be sure from Will toward Sonny.

The problem is that MarDar should have written over the past year both Will and Sonny out there with other guys. They decided not to and instead make it so Will's entire life revolves around EJ. These writers have no choice at this point to keep the majority of fans happy that are interested in this gay storyline to finally get Will and Sonny together. It's their job as writers to keep things interesting.

This show may only have another year on the air. If it does get renewed (which I doubt) than they can bring on Sonny's ex or something to spice things up. But honestly I could think of several stories to keep them spiced up that doesn't include third parties and interesting stories.

I love that Tomlin and company seems to be writing Sonny and Will as having a more mature and loving relationship than many other couples on the show. I'm psyched to see this play out. Even if I am not very psyched about Chandler's interview.

[jjose712]

Umm, no, he is not sounding like Danny Miller at all. Danny said from the very begining how difficult was to kiss another guy, and the worst part is the show casted Marc who said exactly the same, that storyline was dammed from the begining.
I think Danny got too much power in the decisions, because it was clear that his whole storyline was based in his strenghts (crying and drama) and not in his weakness (he has zero chemistry with anyone who was paired, and he seemed really awkward in all his affectionate scenes, and when i say all, i include all his scenes with girls). I think his success came too soon, and he quickly forget he was about to quit acting. And frankly, he was very ungrateful to the fans of his storyline (something says me that he will be grateful that the Emmerdale writers didn't kill Aaron like he wanted).

Chandler (till now) didn't do or say anything like that. I never watch him complaining about his kissing scenes, and it was a lot more intense than anything Danny did on Emmerdale. And yes, it would be good if he showed more entusiasm, but i understand that affectionate scenes weren's exactly his favourites (he didn't show that much entusiasm on his scenes with Gaby either, intentionally or not).
And there's enough gay storylines on soaps to fear that he could be backburned after becoming a couple.

I don't know if he and Freedie are friends, but that it's not a problem. Yes it's better when the actors are close, but not everybody can have a relationship like Van and Jake (or Jo and Thore). James sutton and Guy Burnett didn't seem exactly best friends, and i know their kissing scenes are a little weird, but their chemistry worked perfectly.

And i wouldn't have a problem with them not being a couple at all, if the show treat Sonny as a real character and not as a sidekick. But this is an american soap, not Hollyoaks, so if you have two "main" gay characters, they will be paired, with a little luck we have some more gay friends to show from time to time

[bsgnut]

Jul 24, 2012 6:49:33 GMT -5 jjose712 said:

Umm, no, he is not sounding like Danny Miller at all. Danny said from the very begining how difficult was to kiss another guy, and the worst part is the show casted Marc who said exactly the same, that storyline was dammed from the begining.
I think Danny got too much power in the decisions, because it was clear that his whole storyline was based in his strenghts (crying and drama) and not in his weakness (he has zero chemistry with anyone who was paired, and he seemed really awkward in all his affectionate scenes, and when i say all, i include all his scenes with girls). I think his success came too soon, and he quickly forget he was about to quit acting. And frankly, he was very ungrateful to the fans of his storyline (something says me that he will be grateful that the Emmerdale writers didn't kill Aaron like he wanted).

Chandler (till now) didn't do or say anything like that. I never watch him complaining about his kissing scenes, and it was a lot more intense than anything Danny did on Emmerdale. And yes, it would be good if he showed more entusiasm, but i understand that affectionate scenes weren's exactly his favourites (he didn't show that much entusiasm on his scenes with Gaby either, intentionally or not).
And there's enough gay storylines on soaps to fear that he could be backburned after becoming a couple.

I don't know if he and Freedie are friends, but that it's not a problem. Yes it's better when the actors are close, but not everybody can have a relationship like Van and Jake (or Jo and Thore). James sutton and Guy Burnett didn't seem exactly best friends, and i know their kissing scenes are a little weird, but their chemistry worked perfectly.

And i wouldn't have a problem with them not being a couple at all, if the show treat Sonny as a real character and not as a sidekick. But this is an american soap, not Hollyoaks, so if you have two "main" gay characters, they will be paired, with a little luck we have some more gay friends to show from time to time

Totally agree. Chandler's attitude is very different than Danny Miller's. Chandler has gone out of his way to support the gay community and in fact the interview quoted was in a gay publication. Miller was very aloof with the gay press and seemed more focused on his career.

I think we have to be careful not to take our frustration with the show out on Chandler. The guy has to do what he's told. It's the show's fault that Will and Sonny have been portrayed as sexless with no social lives. Chandler and Freddie can do very little about that.

I see nothing in any of Chandler's statements to suggest he has issues with intimate scenes (like Danny clearly did) or that he dislikes Freddie in any way. It's true they didn't reallly hang out together at the GLAAD Media Awards, but that doesn't mean there's any tension there. They have a cordial, professional relationship as far as I can see.

I'm just looking forward to the kissing and hope that Chandler and Freddie give it their all. I'm pretty sure they will.

[liliane]

Jul 24, 2012 8:29:07 GMT -5 sonwill said:

I think instead of analysing what Chandler said, we should think about the positives (and get back onto an actual discussion of spoilers). The fact is, this is almost definite confirmation that Will and Sonny will be getting together soon, this paired with Eileen's statement, it looks like we're going to finally get what the majority of us want: the Will and Sonny pairing, I'm excited and I can't wait, bring on August.

exactly we should be glad that finally they'll end up together

[WillNSonny]

Jul 24, 2012 8:29:07 GMT -5 sonwill said:

I think instead of analysing what Chandler said, we should think about the positives (and get back onto an actual discussion of spoilers). The fact is, this is almost definite confirmation that Will and Sonny will be getting together soon, this paired with Eileen's statement, it looks like we're going to finally get what the majority of us want: the Will and Sonny pairing, I'm excited and I can't wait, bring on August.

I am definitely looking forward to Wilson. However that interview left many fans a bit offended. Nobody but Chandler knows 100% what he meant. It was very ambiguous and I do think based on that Chandler owes clarification.

[Deleted]

Jul 23, 2012 16:08:11 GMT -5 mycatfox said:

Jul 23, 2012 15:46:51 GMT -5 sonwill said:

www.frontiersla.com/Features/Exclusive-Interviews/Story.aspx?ID=1739785
Chandler talks Will/Sonny and he comes across like he's really not wanting it? IDK But that it seems to be happening? IDK this is what he said:

Now that Will has come out, the next step is to find romance, of course! After testing the waters, Chandler indicates that this summer and into the fall, fans can expect Will and Sonny to become much closer. “It looks that way. I think it’s going to be something that hopefully the viewers have wanted to see. If I could give them that, that would be great. I am outspoken about how much I like the platonic friendship of Will and Sonny because I thought it was fresh. Regardless of how I feel about that, I am still going to play that to the best of my ability.”

I think he's being honest: personally, he'd like the relationship between his character and Sonny's to remain a bromance, but he acknowledges their fans want a romance . Anyway, the good thing is that Wilson will happen (yeah!), and that Chandler -of course- is going to play his part to the best of his ability

What i believe he is saying is that just because they both happen to be gay and know each other doesn't mean that they should have to go out with each other which i think he is right about but he acknowledges that the fans want them to be together and will do whatever it takes to please the fans. Me personally i think they should of had at least one of them date somebody else first then bring them together yea but we know how that all went with the dumb ass old writers

[jjose712]

And that could probably work in a show like Hollyoaks that has a good bunch of gay characters, but i doubt Days can pull that. Both Will and Sonny are members of core familys, so there's nothing more to say. Of course that could be different in the future, if some of the actors decide to leave the show, but right now, it seems the only option. Probably we'll see more gay characters (hopefully some of the ones who we know) being supportive from time to time, that would be great, because the other option is the gay bubble, and everybody know how well that worked on ATWT

[ari]

IMO, Chandler doesn't owe anyone anything.
I'll admit that I wish actors who play gay
characters would say very little about their
personal feelings even if they have a right to,
like Chandler does. But, he's not beholden
to any fan and/or viewer as to what he says
publicly, whether interpreted positively or
negatively. It's his own opinion, and he shouldn't
have to explain it. He's going to do what
is asked of him in playing Will, and that should be
all that matters. IMO.

[jjose712]

That's true (and regarding any type of character), but the same way he has the right to say anything he wanted, we have exactly the same right.

He maybe is right and it would be better to left their relationship with Sonny in friendship mode, the problem is that way, Freedie will be a lot less in the show, and here there are a lot of people who like Sonny better than Will. As i say in a show like hollyoaks that's not be a problem at all, because both character could have their own storylines and their own boyfriends.

Anyway, as i say, comparing him with Danny Miller is totally unfair. The day he started to say how hard is to kiss another guy it would be a different story (but i doubt that day will come)

[vjay]

Jul 24, 2012 6:49:33 GMT -5 jjose712 said:

Umm, no, he is not sounding like Danny Miller at all. Danny said from the very begining how difficult was to kiss another guy, and the worst part is the show casted Marc who said exactly the same, that storyline was dammed from the begining.
I think Danny got too much power in the decisions, because it was clear that his whole storyline was based in his strenghts (crying and drama) and not in his weakness (he has zero chemistry with anyone who was paired, and he seemed really awkward in all his affectionate scenes, and when i say all, i include all his scenes with girls). I think his success came too soon, and he quickly forget he was about to quit acting. And frankly, he was very ungrateful to the fans of his storyline (something says me that he will be grateful that the Emmerdale writers didn't kill Aaron like he wanted).

Chandler (till now) didn't do or say anything like that. I never watch him complaining about his kissing scenes, and it was a lot more intense than anything Danny did on Emmerdale. And yes, it would be good if he showed more entusiasm, but i understand that affectionate scenes weren's exactly his favourites (he didn't show that much entusiasm on his scenes with Gaby either, intentionally or not).
And there's enough gay storylines on soaps to fear that he could be backburned after becoming a couple.

I don't know if he and Freedie are friends, but that it's not a problem. Yes it's better when the actors are close, but not everybody can have a relationship like Van and Jake (or Jo and Thore). James sutton and Guy Burnett didn't seem exactly best friends, and i know their kissing scenes are a little weird, but their chemistry worked perfectly.

And i wouldn't have a problem with them not being a couple at all, if the show treat Sonny as a real character and not as a sidekick. But this is an american soap, not Hollyoaks, so if you have two "main" gay characters, they will be paired, with a little luck we have some more gay friends to show from time to time

I disagree with what you are saying I definitely see a similarity between Chandler Massey and his attitude and Danny Miller from Emmerdale.

Massey got famous from the Will and Sonny storyline and suddenly now he wants them to just be platonic friends.


I think Massey is just like Miller he doesn't mind doing the dramatic acting but he is uncomfortable having to kiss another guy and show affection for another man. By contrast, Freddie Smith seems mature enough and comfortable with Sonny having a gay relationship.

Maybe it is because both Massey and Miller are young I just noticed both guys are only 21 years of age? Maybe because Miller and Massey are straight they still aren't mature enough and insecure about how people will view them?

I remember Miller saying in Manchester people made fun of him on the street because the Aaron character was gay.

[jjose712]

I don't see the similarities at all.

Chandler never show any unconfortability about playing gay, i didn't hear him complaint about the kissing scene with Neil at all (and that scene was far more intense than anything Danny had to act on Emmerdale).
Miller (sorry if i offend his fans) always came out a little jerk in all his interviews, kissing guys is very tough (when his affectionate scenes were scarse, and frankly, really bad acted). I get the impression that the sudden fame affect him a lot (wich is quite normal on young actors, specially the ones who don't came from theatre, but of course, it's very rare that a guy who came from theatre complaint about kissing guys), and he thinks he will get a fantastic filming career or something like that (James Sutton is far better actor, he was in a far better storyline, and even more popular than Aaron's one, and he stayed on soaps). And he was incredibly disrespectful to Aaron fans when he insisted in the character being killed.

Massey the only thing he said is that he prefers Will and Sonny staying friends, he never hinted the kissing a guy is very tough (even i think he is quite reserved in real life, and he is not totally confortable with physical scenes, and i came to that conclusion not on Neil kissing scene, but on his scenes with Gaby, well that will be something he has in common with Danny, because Danny's scenes with girls were as hard to believe like the ones with guys).

I don't think being straight has nothing to do with being insecure, Danny is very insecure, he reasure his straighness in every interview, i don't get that impression from Chandler at all. And in Emmerdale they make a big big mistake casting Marc, who had exactly the same issues Danny had, the result was that dreaful storyline (in Marc defense i have to say that even the kissing scenes were awful, it was far more believable that Jackson feel something for Aaron than the other way)

And i understand Chandler reluctance to Will starting a gay romance. Right now he has a lot of screen time, and he receive an award for his role, but i'm pretty sure he knows what happened with the other gay couples in american soaps. After them becoming a couple they were backburned in less than six months, and frankly he has no reason to believe they will be different

We know that Freedie has no problem to play gay, and has no problem with kissing other guys, and he is more extrovert than Chandler, but at least till now, i don't think Chandler show any sign of having a problem to playing a gay character

[WillNSonny]

I definitely think Chandler is entitled to his own opinions.

But I do not like how it seems both him and Freddie are on two different pages regarding Wilson. That is a formula for disaster. Freddie has always been ecstatic about Sonny getting a life love. Now with it being Wilson he seemed very excited to let us know they were coming at the Emmy's. Furthermore he has been nothing but respectful with how he talks about Chandler. On the other hand we never hear Chandler even utter Freddie's name (he used to but that is long gone and in the past). That to me is just wrong and crosses a line. Chandler is getting paid and part of that paycheck is to at least support the show you work for and that includes your costars. To me Chandler is coming across as not supporting his costar nor his upcoming story with him. I have always been a huge Wilson fan and defend them at every opportunity because I simply like Wilson. But if Chandler isn't 100% for this coupling, I'd rather Freddie be given a different costar that is 100% supportive of him and a romance with him onscreen. So no, Chandler doesn't owe anybody anything but with so many fans not seeing where he's supportive of Wilson and him knowing that, silence pretty much speaks for itself. Saying you will try your best in the context of the article seems like a half assed response that comes across as very unsupportive of Wilson and Freddie when we know how committed Freddie sounds to Wilson.

Not only the lack of support but the lack of enthusiasm is just mind boggling. Will just had this coming out story that Chandler raved about. You'd think he'd be excited that at least Will is finally getting a love life to continue that story, even if it's not with who he'd pick as Will's companion. He still should be excited for fans of this gay story that a gay romance is actually going to be explored on this show and that he is part of it since it will be the first ever gay romance for the show.

I hate it because part of me is super excited for Wilson finally coming but this whole Chandler article puts that dent in my excitement.

[vjay]

Freddie Smith has always been respectful to Chandler Massey but the Emmy winner has certainly shown a lack of class to his fellow castmate. In the Frontier article, Chandler goes on and on about James Scott yet he ignores Freddie Smith.

In fact, when Chandler won the Emmy Freddie gave him his props. However, Chandler has never mentioned Freddie by name and he seems to have an attitude problem. Freddie has always been more open minded about a possible Will and Sonny romance. I now want Freddie Smith's character Sonny to have a romance with someone else. Chandler certainly doesn't sound enthusiastic about being paired with Freddie Smith's character Sonny.

Chandler is a good actor but he's not enthusiastic about being paired with Will and Sonny being a couple it will show up in his acting. Chandler has already proven to be awkward in his romantic scenes on Days with both men and women. I thought the kissing scenes with Gabi and Neil were terrible and lacked passion.

I am convinced that Freddie Smith is going to show people when given the right material that he is a great actor. I am also confident that when Freddie has to kiss another guy on Days he's going to knock it out of the ball park because he's enthusiastic about it. I am pleased that Freddie is happy about Sonny having a gay romance.

I just want Freddie to have his time to shine on Days and hopefully this will start in August.

[WillNSonny]

Exactly...the not mentioning Freddie by name was terrible...and he even picked a real that included Sonny at the end.

I also hope Freddie has a lot of material coming up starting next month. Like you, I think if given the right material Freddie will knock it out of the park. I personally think he's a much more naturally gifted actor than Chandler (who I do think is great also).

Chandler needs major improvement with his kissing and romantic scenes scenes and just hope he brings it come next month. I 100% believe Freddie will knock it out of the park with kissing and romantic scenes bases on how he's played the subtle romantic moments from Sonny toward Will. Wilson's first kiss will tell everything IMO.

Now I do wonder also if much of what we see in interviews is more Jeff talking and not Chandler.

[md1347]

Some of you should never read articles... ever again. ;D

I had a different take on what Chandler said. Right now, Will and Sonny are fun loving, teasing, and such, and it's great fun to watch their relationship. But that relationship will change once they start dating.

What worries me is that this is US daytime. We know how they cripple gay couples. I'm not looking for much and I'm not getting too involved with the storyline. It's days and days always goes back to the well for each couple on the show. Cheating is one of the staples of each couple on the show.

[blake]

Ok after reading Chandler's interview I'm glad that Wilson will be a couple I'm gald he knows that the fans want Wilson and I'm glad he said that he will give it his all too make us happy.With that beging said my heart breaks for poor Freddie Smith because even though Freddie has expressed his appreciation of Wilson.Chandler came across as he could care less I just hope they can pull it off.

[liliane]

honestly chandler didn't say something bad, he was honest, he likes the friendship between sonny and will but that doesn't mean he hates the idea of wilson he just prefers the way their relationship are right now, and i have no doubt that chandler will give his best when sonny and will will end up together

[bsgnut]

I still think we're overreacting to this, but I'll add one more thing.

Chandler said he liked the Platonic friendship with Sonny "because it's fresh." He did NOT say it was because he didn't think Will should have romance or that he had issues with kissing guys. He's making the point that just because they're are 2 gay characters on a soap does not mean they automatically have to get together. There are other options, namely bringing on other gay characters for Will or Sonny to date. He didn't say that of course, but I'm guessing that's what he meant.

[WillNSonny]

I am fine with him thinking that way.

But he doesn't seem to support Wilson or Freddie in the same way Freddie supports him and Wilson, nor excitement towards his upcoming story .

[woowoo1]

Jul 23, 2012 23:33:42 GMT -5 HQ75 said:

I think it would be amazing if Sonny and Will were best friends who also had boyfriends and maybe down the line they fell in love and became a serious long term relationship instead of getting together now, then breaking up, then hating each other then either leaving the show or getting together again and breaking up again.

I'm not sure why Sonny and Will as boyfriends has to be the only viable storyline for these characters. I want them EACH to be in a romantic relationship with a compatible man, I'm just not sure it should be with each other.

I completely agree with everything you said but especially the bold bit. That's what I always wanted for Will and Sonny. The build up to the relationship is usually my favorite part, but the writers have failed miserably with these two characters for me. Will and Sonny are best friends one minute, then 2 minutes of flirting is thrown in and then back to acting like best friends. It's not Massey or Smith's fault, it's the writers. At this point, throwing them in a relationship would feel like a cop out for me unless they really show the falling in love part, but I have very little faith in the show to do the characters or their relationship justice. I see nothing wrong with Massey liking their friendship because I like it too, and for people to compare him to someone as unprofessional as that Miller guy is really unfair to the actor and the people like me that agree with him. (I don't mean you, HQ75.

People are really blowing this interview out of proportion. He didn't say kissing boys is gross or he hates Freddie Smith. He said he likes their characters' friendship which really is something new for gay characters on TV. I'm not saying they should never get boyfriends. I want them to get together with other guys as soon as possible! ;D FOR ME, I think Sonny and Will's relationship is perfect the way it is and makes sense for the way it has been written to this point.

As for Massey's acting, Will was kissing a girl. A girl he wasn't attracted too. It makes sense to me that it would be a little awkward and I always thought it was done on purpose. It's called acting. And the kiss with Neil was Will's first kiss with a guy...while drunk and in public. Again, for me the awkwardness makes sense. Only time will show us if the acting was really good or really lucky. Lol

The soap opera fandom is usually more dramatic than the shows that are being followed. Hopefully an awkwardly worded interview doesn't tear the fandom apart before anything interesting happens. That would be a shame.

I apologize for any writing mistakes. I am very tired.

[Difficult Diva]

I didn't see any writing mistakes WooWoo.
I just think that opinions are strong, because people are TIRED of the show stringing them along for so long, that they're nitpicking at things that they again have no control over.

I still do not see anything "bad" with what Chandler said, because he wasn't mentioning Freddie's name exactly every 30 seconds NOR praising the pairing of Wilson (that hasn't been paired up yet). But, let's continue on slagging on Chandler because of some preconceived slight towards a potential storyline that hasn't happened yet.

[jjose712]

Interviews when you play a gay character are very very dangerous. If the actor is openly gay, there's no problem, and if the actor is known before the role, and everybody knows he has a girlfriend or wife, there's no a problem either (if he is able to avoid the "Kissing blokes is so tough").
The problem is when the actor is in the closet or he is unknown an insecure.
People like Jake Silbermann didn't have any problem, because he was totally cool with playing a gay character and he didn't feel the need to let people know how straight he is in every interview.
When the actor (or even worse his publicist) want the public to know they are straight (and that must be very very clear) the problems start, because when you are not insecure and you are straight, sooner or later someone ask you if you have a girlfriend, and you have the oportunity to talk a little bit about your private life, so everything is clear in a casual way. But if your objective is let the people know how straight you are, you end introducing the theme without being questioned about it, or end saying how hard is to play a character who is totally opposite to you.
The result is always the same, people think you are a closet case, an homophobe or simply a jerk, and in a lot of cases a combination of the three.

But to be fair i don't think that's Chandler case, he seemed excited to play a gay character, he had interviews with gay press (something that Danny Miller avoided), he was in support of gay causes.
Yes he seemed less than thrilled of Wilson storyline, but it could be a lot of reasons for that, and sometimes what you read is not exactly what he said, because when you read the words the tone is lost. I never watch him complain about the kissing scene, and in most interviews he came across as a little shy, and sometimes shyness can be misinterpret as prepotence.
I don't know if he and Freedie are not friends, or if he prefers to have scenes with EJ. But i think some of you are reading too much on too little words

[md1347]

I wouldn't take 1 interview and make a decision about what Chandler's feelings are. It's possible the editing of the article cut out things.

An actor that's self-absorbed.... hmmm.. I've never seen that before. ... but again, that's something we've never seen from Chandler before, so again, I would wait to see if a pattern starts.

[LonePirate]

We all know Chandler can bring the angst and anger to the story; but can he convincingly portray a young gay man in love? Is it a matter of low self-confidence or maybe some refreshing self-awareness of his limitations? Or is he simply disinterested in this aspect of the story? It looks like we will all be able to judge for ourselves and reach our own conclusions.

Maybe, just maybe, Freddie is able to draw him into the situation and on-screen moments with his charisma and dedication. Perhaps we have been underestimating the talents of Mr. Smith when it comes to coaxing a good performance from his castmates.

[jjose712]

You are reading too much in what he said, he said that he prefers Will and Sonny staying simply friends, not that Will must be chaste and not having any romance. One can agree with him or not, it depends if one want Wilson to happen or not, but he didn't imply that his character will be better without any romance.

I think one of the issues i have (and other people in this forum, or at least i think that) is that no romance between Will and Sonny means no Freedie at all, because, at least till now, the show didn't invest anything in Sonny. If Sonny was at the same status that Will has, with his own storylines, i don't think Chandler words will get the same reaction