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Post by liliane on Aug 3, 2012 23:36:25 GMT -5
is guy burnet craig from hollyoaks ?
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Post by Hawthorne on Aug 3, 2012 23:41:08 GMT -5
Interesting. The whole purpose of that interview was damage control. I suspect his agent or PR guy found out about the controversy raging on some forums and set up the interview. I think what Chandler didn't understand before, but obviously understands now is how exasperated and frustrated many fans are over how long Sonny and Will have been kept as just friends. Sonny was brought on the show a year ago to be Will's love interest and now that it's finally about to happen nobody wanted to hear that he didn't think it was such a great idea. His closing remarks show that he now gets how important Wilson is to his fans.
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Post by jjose712 on Aug 4, 2012 5:23:10 GMT -5
Chandler doesn't need to explain himself at all, but if it makes things easier for him, I understand. Anyway, I'm looking forward for the break to be over so the Will and Sonny stuff can finally begin.  And Guy Burnet ALWAYS cared about his fans and his character, jjose712, but this is not the place for that discussion. I didn't say anything about he and his fans, i was talking about his interviews, and he was far from being comfortable to play a gay character |
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Post by woowoo1 on Aug 4, 2012 18:04:43 GMT -5
Not the place for this but I think I know what article you are talking about and he explained his comments in the article. He also had an out when the SL first started but didn't run and did a great job imo. Then he came back to finish the SL. liliane-- Yes. I'm VERY sorry, Mods. I will stay on topic from now on. |
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Post by WillNSonny on Aug 4, 2012 19:20:46 GMT -5
No matter the reason I'm just glad Chandler seems to realize now that so many fans are interested in a gay romance and have been for a long time. Maybe he really didn't realize the extent of that.
I wonder if what he meant by "compelling" was that people such as myself said that Chandler always seemed hesitant in romantic scenes. That is the only reason I said back somewhere in a thread here that I thought Freddie was more naturally gifted...I just meant it in the romantic acting sense. There is no doubt Chandler is an amazing actor otherwise. Anyway, I really believe now, especially with what Eileen stated in her interview that Will and Sonny have a great romance coming. But how great is dependent on how far the show allows it to go. Freddie and Chandler can only make it so compelling based on that.
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Post by Hawthorne on Aug 4, 2012 20:27:29 GMT -5
Chandler is a good actor, but I think he's gotten too much mileage and praise for playing gay when really he's hardly had to portray any gayness at all. I'm probably in the minority, but I've come to believe that his Emmy win was largely political. That coming out story was ridiculous, but Chandler did do emotional turmoil rather well. He still needs to prove to me that he can convincingly play a gay man, though. And I don't buy it when he says he's been playing Will as gay around EJ. I've never seen it. In previous interviews he was surprised that people saw sexual tension between EJ and Will. Now he's implying that he deliberately created it. In my opinion, the sexual tension only existed in some people's imagination.
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Post by LonePirate on Aug 4, 2012 21:15:52 GMT -5
Chandler is a good actor, but I think he's gotten too much mileage and praise for playing gay when really he's hardly had to portray any gayness at all. I'm probably in the minority, but I've come to believe that his Emmy win was largely political. That coming out story was ridiculous, but Chandler did do emotional turmoil rather well. He still needs to prove to me that he can convincingly play a gay man, though. Technically, his Emmy win was for his work back in 2011 - the guilt/shame over the EJ-Sami couch sex, the break-up with Gabi, the Sami adultery confession to Marlena, etc. If it hadn't been for Days and its cast telling us Will would soon be coming out, he wasn't the least bit gay in his 2011 scenes. Your belief that his win was political could be on the money as could the belief that he won based on his 2012 work. Regardless, he is one of the better performers on the show, especially when you consider his age as he is the youngest contracted actor on the show. He is adept at expressing deeply negative emotions. He will soon have a chance to express some deeply positive ones. Let's hope he is just as skilled with those. |
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Post by jjose712 on Aug 5, 2012 6:42:25 GMT -5
I think Emmy depends a lot of the scenes selected. Van Hansis did a better job in Luke's coming out, but he was really bad selecting his scenes to get the emmy nomination.
Awards are really weird, there are people who do an amazing job that never are nominated. And people who won who are far from being great.
I remember Danny Miller first nominations and he lost against a very average actor curiosly when his performance was stronger (he is really good at over the top drama), and then he started to win eveything, when it was very obvious that his performance had very clear weak points.
Chandler take profit of a good selection of scenes, and he is quite good expressing turmoil of emotions, wich is exactly the type of scenes that people who vote at daytime emmys prefer. Eric Shaefer Stevens was praised for his portray of Reid on ATWT, but it wasn't the type of performance (or character) daytime emmy voters appreciate and he didn't even was nominated
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Post by mycatfox on Aug 5, 2012 7:04:25 GMT -5
Chandler is a good actor, but I think he's gotten too much mileage and praise for playing gay when really he's hardly had to portray any gayness at all. I'm probably in the minority, but I've come to believe that his Emmy win was largely political. That coming out story was ridiculous, but Chandler did do emotional turmoil rather well. He still needs to prove to me that he can convincingly play a gay man, though. And I don't buy it when he says he's been playing Will as gay around EJ. I've never seen it. In previous interviews he was surprised that people saw sexual tension between EJ and Will. Now he's implying that he deliberately created it. In my opinion, the sexual tension only existed in some people's imagination. This is very subjective, therefore there are many views on this; but Chandler said he's been playing it that way, so what I thought it'd been happening on screen all this time has been just confirmed by him  I agree with you about the Emmy thing, though  |
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Post by jjose712 on Aug 5, 2012 10:54:51 GMT -5
Well, i think he played Will gay way before Sonny appeared on the show. If you watch some of his scenes with Chad, he gives that vibe and i think it was a concious decision
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Post by WillNSonny on Aug 5, 2012 11:13:59 GMT -5
I am not sure where some of you are coming from or maybe I'm misinterpreting what you guys are saying? Chandler has played "gay" perfectly in the rare moments he was allowed to portray or chose to play it in the WilSon scenes with the messing around at CG, the sitting down on the steps at Horton Square, being nervous telling Marlena how much Sonny means to him, nervously asking Will to go to the movies with him. That's why I have always been so excited about Will and Sonny becoming more than just friends. It isn't just the idea of two guys having a gay romance (which I do want to see) but more importantly the rare moments we have seen where I can see from both Sonny and Will more than friendship. They have chemistry both as friends and when they have shown to be more than just friends (even if nothing ever came from it afterward). The only thing I believe Chandler needs work on his kissing scenes. With both Gabi and Neil, Chandler seemed hesitant to open his mouth and was missing that certain vibe with those type of scenes. I am not looking for porn but I am hoping we see a much more adult and realistic relationship when it comes to Will and Sonny in the romantic sense, since we know they will only be allowed to go so far any way. That could be Chandler being brilliant with those scenes since we know Will wasn't turned on by Gabi and Neil was just an outlet for Will to finally be free. I guess we will know soon enough . |
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Post by jjose712 on Aug 5, 2012 13:31:45 GMT -5
I think his kisses were just perfect. He wasn't exactly atracted to Gabi, and his kisses were uncomfortable, and kissing Neil wasn't about love, was about passion and anger and i think it worked really well.
I remember watching various videos of different storylines, with people claiming that it was pretty clear that the actor of their predilection was straight because he looks uncomfortable in the kissing scenes, but that has nothing to do with being straight and a lot with being a bad actor
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Post by vjay on Aug 5, 2012 17:48:32 GMT -5
Chandler really hasn't done much he does angst very well but he needs to prove he can be a romantic lead too. Ditto for Freddie Smith both guys hopefully will prove they can give Sonny and Will's storyline much needed fire and passion.
I think people need to remember Days is the most conservative American soap worse than OLTL or ATWT.
Days cock teases the audience too much with the long glances, the hugs, and the leg rubbing.
Days has a to prove to the audience that they are committed to this gay romance and get on with it. A whole year has passed Will and Sonny are out of the closet. Now it is time for the gay romance to start.
I am not sure Days can go very far even with the kissing scenes. OLTL and ATWT so far in my opinion did a better job with their gay male storylines. The raw emotion and passion was superior on those American soaps.
So Freddie Smith and Chandler Massey have a lot to prove in their acting if they can convince the audience that their characters Sonny and Will are two passionate and sexual young gay men.
If you watch gay soaps from other nations such the Canadian show LA Complex which has a gay storyline the acting is just incredible. LA Complex didn't shy away from men kissing or from dealing with social issues.
Time will tell if Days is really committed to this gay storyline and if they are going to treat Sonny and Will with the same respect as the heterosexual characters in relation to romance and sex.
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Post by WillNSonny on Aug 5, 2012 18:41:03 GMT -5
I don't know why people call DOOL the most conservative show. They are by far one of the most liberal with romance and language. They showed plenty of graphic sex scenes with Brady and Madison and EJ and Sami. Look at some of the Chloe love scenes...same thing. That is my only concern still about Chandler's comments.
They are already taping into Nov. I hope he's not trying to say that him and Freddie will make it compelling as they can because the writing for the WilSon romance is seriously lacking. After over a year of waiting, if the romance isn't written at least equivalent to the romance Kish got, I see many fans tuning right back out because it will be a huge let down.
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Post by quan87 on Aug 13, 2012 15:59:42 GMT -5
Chandler really hasn't done much he does angst very well but he needs to prove he can be a romantic lead too. Ditto for Freddie Smith both guys hopefully will prove they can give Sonny and Will's storyline much needed fire and passion. I think people need to remember Days is the most conservative American soap worse than OLTL or ATWT. Days cock teases the audience too much with the long glances, the hugs, and the leg rubbing. Days has a to prove to the audience that they are committed to this gay romance and get on with it. A whole year has passed Will and Sonny are out of the closet. Now it is time for the gay romance to start. I am not sure Days can go very far even with the kissing scenes. OLTL and ATWT so far in my opinion did a better job with their gay male storylines. The raw emotion and passion was superior on those American soaps. So Freddie Smith and Chandler Massey have a lot to prove in their acting if they can convince the audience that their characters Sonny and Will are two passionate and sexual young gay men. If you watch gay soaps from other nations such the Canadian show LA Complex which has a gay storyline the acting is just incredible. LA Complex didn't shy away from men kissing or from dealing with social issues. Time will tell if Days is really committed to this gay storyline and if they are going to treat Sonny and Will with the same respect as the heterosexual characters in relation to romance and sex. Days is the most conservative? The show where they have sex scenes were people sometimes grinding? |
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Post by bystander9529 on Aug 16, 2012 18:25:09 GMT -5
SPOILERS! Chandler talks about Will's issues... bit.ly/S0ORwiUPDATE: After reading the Spoiler Discussion thread, I should give credit to WillNSonny for having posted this link in Reply #6126 at 1:50 pm.
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Post by WillNSonny on Aug 16, 2012 18:31:00 GMT -5
Poor Chandler. I feel bad for him. I now realize why he was so unenthusiastic about WilSon. It wasn't so much that he didn't like them. I think he dreaded this stuff coming out because he knew fans would react this way so he didn't know what to say and got tongue tied and just decided not to mention WilSon. Now I feel bad for being so hard on him  . He's lucky he has Freddie who at least tries to defend Will's action. |
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Post by jjose712 on Aug 17, 2012 3:34:47 GMT -5
That the problem with telling a storyline that was originaly written a year ago. Last year won't be a problem, it would be considered just part of his coming out, now is a big problem, there's a lot of bad reactions to that storyline (wich is not a good thing when you are going to start the gay storyline). I think he is pretty concious the fans are not gonna like that twist, so it's hard to explain and difficult to show entusiasm.
Even some of us don't like Sonny's storyline, is easy to understand why Freedy is excited, he is getting a lot more of screen time, and he will get a good bunch of scenes to prove how good he is. Chandler is not that lucky
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Post by mrfixit477 on Aug 24, 2012 20:09:19 GMT -5
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Post by liliane on Aug 25, 2012 6:24:08 GMT -5
OH DAMN.................thanks for the pics of Chandler. I think Will has it in him to do a great job with the gay romance. From what I have seen this past year he is damn good at what he does. I have no worries only excited to see how it plays out. i think that too, i have no doubt that chandler will do an amazing job with the gay romance, he's really a good actor, i always enjoy watching him. |
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Post by truthwillout on Aug 29, 2012 23:13:13 GMT -5
Did Roman accept Will's orientation at some point in the show, or did the writers just forget about it?
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Post by Isabella on Aug 30, 2012 0:27:22 GMT -5
Did Roman accept Will's orientation at some point in the show, or did the writers just forget about it? I don't think he was unaccepting. Just worried that Will would suffer hate because of it. He's old-fashioned, but I never got the impression that he didn't accept Will. |
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Post by HQ75 on Aug 30, 2012 10:21:58 GMT -5
Roman totally accepted that Will is gay.
What he didn't accept is that no one told him and that Will didn't come forth immediately to clear his name. He also is worried about what can happen to Will (he also said that about Sonny). He just felt left out of the loop as a grandpa and as the chief of police.
He implied to Will and Sami that he's witness hate crimes and that concerned him.
I think if anyone has an issue it might be Caroline.
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Post by blake on Sept 10, 2012 17:23:50 GMT -5
Happy 22 Birthday to Chandler!!!
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Post by mrfixit477 on Oct 3, 2012 6:02:23 GMT -5
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. He's lucky he has Freddie who at least tries to defend Will's action.
