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Post by liliane on Aug 2, 2012 11:28:13 GMT -5
glad chandler tweeted even if he didn't have to, because really people were hard on him
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Post by mycatfox on Aug 2, 2012 13:13:59 GMT -5
I think it's unfortunate that Chandler felt he had to address this in the first place because people were trashing him so badly. It really shouldn't have been necessary for him to have to come out and placate folks, IMO. To me, there were never any 'issues' to begin with. I just think it's another example of the dark side of fandom. Sorry to disagree, Anthony, but I don't think this case has to do with " the dark side of fandom". I think it just has to do with fans ( like myself, because that's what I am  that have interpreted - after reading/watching attentively his interviews- what it was already discussed here  Of course, I'm sure the fact that the so anticipated gay storyline is practically stalled plays a big role in how these fans feel, but still... Anyway, this is a subjective matter, therefore people don't see the same things. So I guess it's understandable that we disagree: as a fan, I'm glad Chandler told us how he feels about things, even though he didn't have to  ... But like sonwill and others have stated, the past is the past, so let's focus on the future now  ... |
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Post by WillNSonny on Aug 2, 2012 15:26:55 GMT -5
I think it's unfortunate that Chandler felt he had to address this in the first place because people were trashing him so badly. It really shouldn't have been necessary for him to have to come out and placate folks, IMO. To me, there were never any 'issues' to begin with. I just think it's another example of the dark side of fandom. Sorry to disagree, Anthony, but I don't think this case has to do with " the dark side of fandom". I think it just has to do with fans ( like myself, because that's what I am that have interpreted - after reading/watching attentively his interviews- what it was already discussed here Of course, I'm sure the fact that the so anticipated gay storyline is practically stalled plays a big role in how these fans feel, but still... Anyway, this is a subjective matter, therefore people don't see the same things. So I guess it's understandable that we disagree: as a fan, I'm glad Chandler told us how he feels about things, even though he didn't have to ... But like sonwill and others have stated, the past is the past, so let's focus on the future now ... Love that post MyCatfox and ITA with all of that. I am so glad Chandler clarified. I don't know if we will ever know if that was even Chandler speaking in these interviews or more of Jeff. But I have to believe that was Chandler speaking on twitter and wanted to at least show respect to the upcoming Wilson romance in addition to showing support to Freddie. I was never off the Wilson train even if I didn't like some of Chandler's interviews as of late. But I'm even looking that much more forward to the first gay romance on this show finally coming to fruition ;D ;D ;D ;D. |
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Post by Difficult Diva on Aug 2, 2012 15:42:13 GMT -5
I think it's unfortunate that Chandler felt he had to address this in the first place because people were trashing him so badly. It really shouldn't have been necessary for him to have to come out and placate folks, IMO. To me, there were never any 'issues' to begin with. I just think it's another example of the dark side of fandom. I think he recieved a lot of baklash that it wans't really about him. Here he was compared with Danny Miller (that's an insult no matter the way you look at it). In my opinion if the show handle their gay storyline better, this would never happened. The problem is the show teased a gay storyline more than a year ago, and while his character has good screentime (not gay related) the other gay character has nothing at all, and that make overreacting more easy. The fact that the "star" of the show didn't show support of the storyline make people believe it could not be happen (and given what happened in Emmerdale, that's not exactly out of the blue) Yes, it would be better if he doesn't have to twitt that, but the truth is that if he was a little smart before (there are precedents with other soap couples, and even with other soap couples) he could avoid this very easily. Either way, he did the twitt and this story ends. Everybody is happy again[/I][/quote] And that's all that really matters for right now. Until TPTB screw up again with the development of the storyline. ;D |
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Post by milena84 on Aug 2, 2012 15:43:01 GMT -5
I get that everyone is getting a bit emotional and this is what fandom makes great. Still, I don't think that anybody is turning anything around or that anybody is attacking anybody else. We disagree, that is ok. I am one of those, mostly reading quietly lately. But I do think the whole interview discussion got a bit out of hand. One of the moderators even felt the need to step in.
And all this, not because someone said something bad, but because he didn't say anything. I think, it makes sense that he is talking in his recent interviews about the storyline he is part of on screen right now, instead of the storyline that is not (yet) on screen. This will all change, as soon as the story actually start.
But this is maybe a good time to remember, that everything we post is public and can be read by anybody.
Just a thought.
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Post by HQ75 on Aug 2, 2012 17:28:00 GMT -5
I think it's unfortunate that Chandler felt he had to address this in the first place because people were trashing him so badly. It really shouldn't have been necessary for him to have to come out and placate folks, IMO. To me, there were never any 'issues' to begin with. I just think it's another example of the dark side of fandom. I AGREE WITH EVERY WORD OF THIS POST AND THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN VERY OFTEN. ;D Fans projecting their insecurities and fears and conspiracy theories onto an actor and then creating drama for that actor is pathetic, IMO.  No actor should have to defend himself against rumors about what he thinks about his own part that are based upon conjecture and air.  I can't imagine what his Twitter feed and FB page must look like if he felt the need to squash this drama with a Tweet. The only thing any actor owes an audience is to act their ass off on stage or screen. They don't owe explanations about their personal feelings about anything. Chandler isn't a writer, he's an actor. His job is to act the part as written. You can't tell diddly squat about what an actor really feels or is really like from reading interview and looking at pictures of them. That makes no sense. The only way to get to know who an actor really is when they aren't on the close is to get to know them personally and no one here has done that. I'd shudder to think how folks would feel if people here decided they KNOW you based upon what gets written in these threads. Perish the thought. Unless he blatantly says something offensive, I don't think Chandler should be judged based upon anything other than his PERFORMANCE on screen. |
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Post by Hawthorne on Aug 2, 2012 17:47:25 GMT -5
I think it's unfortunate that Chandler felt he had to address this in the first place because people were trashing him so badly. It really shouldn't have been necessary for him to have to come out and placate folks, IMO. To me, there were never any 'issues' to begin with. I just think it's another example of the dark side of fandom. I also didn't think what Chandler had said was anything to get upset about, but it was a less than enthusiastic embrace of a story his fans have been dying to see. I can see why a lot of them got bent out of shape. Chandler had to clarify himself, which comes with the territory when you have a public profile. It's not a big deal, really. It does kind of seem like maybe he read this forum. Ooo, maybe he's reading this very sentence!!! It must be strange to be famous and see people talking about you on-line. I'm hoping we can get some positivity on the board. We're about to finally get a Sonny and Will romance!!! How awesome is that? Now is a time to be excited! |
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Post by WillNSonny on Aug 2, 2012 17:49:49 GMT -5
Actually there was never anything bad said to Chandler on his twitter nor facebook account. All I ever saw were pro Will and Wilson comments. Yes, there was plenty said on message boards and I am sure that is where Chandler himself came upon it or somebody (s) else came upon it and alerted him. Personally, I don't think most people crossed a line. Once it started getting into people personally attacking each other than it got out of hand. But once again that is all subjective as some people obviously feel different  . I work for a company where if I say something questionable to even some people, I have to answer to it. It is my job whether I personally believe in it or not, to sell what my company is trying to sell and to support my co coworkers. And though subjective once again, too many fans didn't think Chandler was being very supportive. It could very well be due to badly edited interviews or other factors or his true thoughts. We will never know. Either way I think it was very sweet of Chandler to say what he did . I agree Hawthorne...finally a romance is about to begin for Will and Sonny. that's something to be excited about!!! |
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Post by vjay on Aug 2, 2012 21:38:15 GMT -5
I think it's unfortunate that Chandler felt he had to address this in the first place because people were trashing him so badly. It really shouldn't have been necessary for him to have to come out and placate folks, IMO. To me, there were never any 'issues' to begin with. I just think it's another example of the dark side of fandom. I disagree Anthony Chandler did the RIGHT THING to clarify his comments from the Frontier Magazine interview. I am also glad that Chandler gave Freddie Smith the respect he deserves. The audience has invested an entire year in the Will and Sonny storyline. Why should the audience invest our time into a gay storyline when the lead actor's comments are interpreted as unenthusiastic in an interview? Chandler did the right thing and I am glad he did. He has restored my faith in him and I look foward to watching Days in August. |
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Post by HQ75 on Aug 2, 2012 22:07:59 GMT -5
I have never seen Chandler show Freddie anything BUT respect.
Not bringing Freddie up every time he is interviewed is not disrespect.
And only SOME fans viewed his interview comments as "less than enthusiastic about a romance between Will and Sonny" .
I never saw any evidence of Chandler not being completely supportive of his character having a romantic relationship.
I still feel that fans are holding Chandler responsible for their own frustration at the lack of screen time for "Sonny" and the fact that "Sonny" and "Will" aren't just macking on each other.
None of us have a relationship with these actors and every time an actor has to appease fans about made-up drama based upon fan assumptions about what complete stranger may or may not be thinking or feeling in their heart, it validates cray cray fan behavior.
People take soap operas entirely too seriously and become overly invested in the characters and actors frequently (particularly in the US)
And now having direct access to the actors via Twitter and Facebook folks overstep with their anxiety and fears and and overwrought criticism.
We all KNOW this happens with soap actors all the time.
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Post by liliane on Aug 2, 2012 22:14:46 GMT -5
I have never seen Chandler show Freddie anything BUT respect. Not bringing Freddie up every time he is interviewed is not disrespect. And only SOME fans viewed his interview comments as "less than enthusiastic about a romance between Will and Sonny" . I never saw any evidence of Chandler not being completely supportive of his character having a romantic relationship. I still feel that fans are holding Chandler responsible for their own frustration at the lack of screen time for "Sonny" and the fact that "Sonny" and "Will" aren't just macking on each other. None of us have a relationship with these actors and every time an actor has to appease fans about made-up drama based upon fan assumptions about what complete stranger may or may not be thinking or feeling in their heart, it validates cray cray fan behavior. People take soap operas entirely too seriously and become overly invested in the characters and actors frequently (particularly in the US) And now having direct access to the actors via Twitter and Facebook folks overstep with their anxiety and fears and and overwrought criticism. We all KNOW this happens with soap actors all the time. totally true |
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Post by WillNSonny on Aug 2, 2012 22:41:42 GMT -5
Obviously this debate will just go back and forth and around in circles... But once again there was NO hate toward Chandler on twitter or facebook that I saw (and I do lurk both).
I lurk many sites and I would say it was pretty 50/50 on what Chandler said. One board deleted an entire thread just about because the opinions were so strong against what Chandler said. Though again, IMO most of the responses weren't that bad. One thing is for sure, if Chandler did read all (which I am believing he did because his tweet completely mirrored posts on this board and other boards) he will know Will is not the once loved character he once was. Where Chandler has been saying that Will is fun with an edge, many fans disagree and see Will now as one noted. Even many fans that don't care one way or another about WilSon are happy to see the airtime cut down on EJ/Will and to have Will back more in the younger scene.
I will just agree to disagree and move on because it makes no difference. Some people think Chandler didn't owe any explanation. As for me, I'm with VJay and think he did and I have lots of respect again for him because of that and also am looking forward to August and a hopeful Will and Sonny story.
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Post by LonePirate on Aug 2, 2012 22:54:55 GMT -5
He didn't need to speak to the fans but I am glad that he did. Just speaking for myself, it felt like he was prioritizing the EJ/Will non-relationship above the Sonny/Will relationship which was problematic for me. There are things I like about the EJ/Will scenes but there are as many, possibly more, things that I dislike about their scenes and what those scenes have done to Will as a character. I am firmly and unapologetically on Team WilSon instead of Team EJill. Still, I don't mind future EJ/Will scenes, especially if they drop the ridiculous sexual innuendo between them. Unfortunately, there seem to be plenty EJill fans who do not want Will anywhere near Sonny. Maybe Chandler should speak with his on screen mom and pick up some tips from Alison on how to deal with the competing fan bases.
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Post by bsgnut on Aug 2, 2012 23:01:02 GMT -5
My take, for what it's worth, is that some folks took their anger at the show out on Chandler. The Frontiers article felt badly edited and I never got the impression he meant any ill will toward the WilSon storyline or Freddie. It would not be the first time an actor was misquoted or had his words put in a context he did not intend.
I also felt the comparisons to Danny Miller were completely unfair. Chandler has bent over backwards to support the gay community in every way possible and has never expressed reservations about kissing, intimacy or anything else.
It's a bit silly that he had to tweet this message but I'm glad he did so we can all move on. ;D
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Post by Difficult Diva on Aug 2, 2012 23:05:08 GMT -5
He said what certain fans needed to hear, in order for you to be happy in what is supposed to come down the road for Sonny, Will and their still potential pairing.
Chandler survived this trial by fire and now he knows how much he can or can't say in print, especially anything that is slightly disparaging (even if it's not) about anything regarding DAYS.
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Post by WillNSonny on Aug 2, 2012 23:09:49 GMT -5
My take, for what it's worth, is that some folks took their anger at the show out on Chandler. The Frontiers article felt badly edited and I never got the impression he meant any ill will toward the WilSon storyline or Freddie. It would not be the first time an actor was misquoted or had his words put in a context he did not intend. I also felt the comparisons to Danny Miller were completely unfair. Chandler has bent over backwards to support the gay community in every way possible and has never expressed reservations about kissing, intimacy or anything else. It's a bit silly that he had to tweet this message but I'm glad he did so we can all move on. ;D It wasn't just the Frontier's article but other interviews prior. Again, it wasn't so much what he said but instead what he didn't say. But I do agree that Danny Miller comparisons were harsh and I didn't agree with that. I never believed it had to do with Chandler not wanting to do romantic scenes. So that I don't agree with either. But I do hope Chandler has improved on his romantic scenes because they need some improvement LOL. |
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Post by jjose712 on Aug 3, 2012 5:42:08 GMT -5
I have never seen Chandler show Freddie anything BUT respect. Not bringing Freddie up every time he is interviewed is not disrespect. And only SOME fans viewed his interview comments as "less than enthusiastic about a romance between Will and Sonny" . I never saw any evidence of Chandler not being completely supportive of his character having a romantic relationship. I still feel that fans are holding Chandler responsible for their own frustration at the lack of screen time for "Sonny" and the fact that "Sonny" and "Will" aren't just macking on each other. None of us have a relationship with these actors and every time an actor has to appease fans about made-up drama based upon fan assumptions about what complete stranger may or may not be thinking or feeling in their heart, it validates cray cray fan behavior. People take soap operas entirely too seriously and become overly invested in the characters and actors frequently (particularly in the US) And now having direct access to the actors via Twitter and Facebook folks overstep with their anxiety and fears and and overwrought criticism. We all KNOW this happens with soap actors all the time. totally true In fact, no. I didn't see anything wrong in his interviews, but it was pretty clear that he would prefer to stay in EJ's storyline than anything gay related. And yes, he didn't mention Freedie at all in his interviews, and he has all the right to do it. In fact, i understand why he doesn't want the gay romance to start, because in ATWT that meant Luke and Noah being backburned, and in OLTL end with both actors fired (and knowing on the press). So he has good reasons to be less than enthusiastic about it. As i say, i don't think he did anything wrong, and he was victim of Days delay in playing the gay storyline. Because the show teased a gay storyline a year ago, it's not something fans invented, the show implyed that they were going to do a gay romance. A year later nothing happened. And after his interviews (where a good bunch and not only one) people felt less and less optimistic about the stoyline, and in my opinion, overreacted, and blamed the wrong person. Chandler never expressed disconformity with playing a gay character, he even supported gay rights campaings, he never expressed gay panic (i know a lot of people defend actors who expressed their trouble to kiss another bloke, in my opinion that screams that guy is not a real actor, one thing is fear to be typecast at the begining of your career, wich is legit, and other very different tell us how brave you are to play something so simple as a kiss), so in my opinion he didn't deserve the backlash. But, i think he learnt a lot of this situation, and he reacted very well (unnecesay, yes, but very effective). Right now the internet make the things very different, everything is scrutinized, and a young actor must learn to be cautious about what he says (or in this case what he didn't say). The truth is that is very unfair he was a lot worse treated that people like Guy Burnett or Danny Miller (in Burnett's case his opinion doesn't matter because the show went with the storyline anyway, but Miller was very guilty of the fact that Emmerdale's storyline was such trainwreck) who were quite vocal on their discomfort on playing a gay character. That never happened with Chandler, and i think he deserved better. And saying that, i hope the show did the right thing this time. If they do the gay storyline, keep the characters in another's characters orbit, don't let everything being about the relationship, let them play (together and separate) a supporting role in other storylines. In other words, don't let them stay in a bubble, because that in the long time means, both characters being backburned, and their own storyline becoming boring. And that's something Chandler can fear (Freedie, has a lot less to lose, because he is being misused right now) |
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Post by Bonobochick on Aug 3, 2012 11:36:29 GMT -5
Please stick to posting your own thoughts, not what other fans think. Not everyone has to think alike.
That said, it's ok to live and let live instead of saying the same things over and over in an attempt to prove that you're "right" and someone else is "wrong" in a discussion.
Just agree to disagree and move on.
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Post by WillNSonny on Aug 3, 2012 16:14:55 GMT -5
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Post by WillNSonny on Aug 3, 2012 16:24:24 GMT -5
So finally I am a happy WilSon fan again and this interview asked the right questions to get Chandler to answer directly. I love this interview. My favorite Chandler interview. He came across like a different person in this interview compared to the last few and that could be due to the specific questions being asked. I'm glad he again elaborated. So happy Will is back with younger scene and it sounds like there is a real gay story coming along with romance  . Hoping we get them all like last summer all hanging out. He had trouble answering the Wilson question without giving it away but it really gave it away ;D. |
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Post by mycatfox on Aug 3, 2012 17:28:11 GMT -5
So finally I am a happy WilSon fan again and this interview asked the right questions to get Chandler to answer directly. I love this interview. My favorite Chandler interview. So happy Will is back with younger scene and it sounds like there is a real gay story coming along with romance. Hoping we get them all like last summer all hanging out. He had trouble answering the Wilson question without giving it away but it really gave it away ;D. I loved it too, this definitely was my favorite Chandler interview ;D There are two answers that I particularly liked: " Q: James Scott has given several interviews where he’s discussed how he plays his scenes with you. How do you play those scenes? A: Well, as far as the sexual chemistry goes, I play and I’ve always played as long as I’ve been doing the scenes with James…Will is gay. And EJ is like James…a very handsome man. Rich, powerful, charismatic. How can you not be taken in by that somewhat? So there’s that element. But I’ve also played the fact that Will is always trying to get EJ to like him and respect him. And that seems to be a hard enough task in most scenes, because respect is not something that EJ gives out generously" This was exactly what I always wanted to mean every time I'd bring this subject in several of my posts: it is almost impossible for a young gay guy not to feel attraction for a man like EJ, even though he shouldn't because of the many reasons that were already pointed out for some posters (being the most important facts that EJ was Will step-dad, and that he is the father of his brothers ) So I'm really glad Chandler sees it the same way  And: " Q :Is there anything else you’d like to say to the fans? A: I just want to say to the fans that have been hoping for or looking forward to a gay romance on the show, I’m right there with them, and I will do my absolute best to make the story compelling, and I’m sure Freddie will obviously do the same" ;D ;D ;D ;D |
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Post by WillNSonny on Aug 3, 2012 17:34:02 GMT -5
So finally I am a happy WilSon fan again and this interview asked the right questions to get Chandler to answer directly. I love this interview. My favorite Chandler interview. So happy Will is back with younger scene and it sounds like there is a real gay story coming along with romance. Hoping we get them all like last summer all hanging out. He had trouble answering the Wilson question without giving it away but it really gave it away ;D. I loved it too, this definitely was my favorite Chandler interview ;D There are two answers that I particularly liked: " Q: James Scott has given several interviews where he’s discussed how he plays his scenes with you. How do you play those scenes? A: Well, as far as the sexual chemistry goes, I play and I’ve always played as long as I’ve been doing the scenes with James…Will is gay. And EJ is like James…a very handsome man. Rich, powerful, charismatic. How can you not be taken in by that somewhat? So there’s that element. But I’ve also played the fact that Will is always trying to get EJ to like him and respect him. And that seems to be a hard enough task in most scenes, because respect is not something that EJ gives out generously" This was exactly what I always wanted to mean every time I'd bring this subject in several of my posts: it is almost impossible for a young gay guy not to feel attraction for a man like EJ, even though he shouldn't because of the many reasons that were already pointed out for some posters (being the most important facts that EJ was Will step-dad, and that he is the father of his brothers ) So I'm really glad Chandler sees it the same way And: " Q :Is there anything else you’d like to say to the fans? A: I just want to say to the fans that have been hoping for or looking forward to a gay romance on the show, I’m right there with them, and I will do my absolute best to make the story compelling, and I’m sure Freddie will obviously do the same" ;D ;D ;D ;D That was my favorite part. I really believe despite my earlier reservations from prior interviews that Chandler (And Freddie) are gonna be amazing with what's coming up!!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D I also think it was interesting to see that he seems think both positive and negative comments have validity to it at times. That was as classy answer. |
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Post by bsgnut on Aug 3, 2012 18:28:10 GMT -5
You can tell from this interview just how much Chandler cares about the fans and about this storyline. It says a lot about him that he went out of his way to clarify how he really feels. He didn't have to do that.
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Post by liliane on Aug 3, 2012 22:34:16 GMT -5
for sure he didn't have to do it, but he did it and i'm glad he did it, i never believed he didn't want a gay romance
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Post by woowoo1 on Aug 3, 2012 22:58:44 GMT -5
Chandler doesn't need to explain himself at all, but if it makes things easier for him, I understand. Anyway, I'm looking forward for the break to be over so the Will and Sonny stuff can finally begin. And Guy Burnet ALWAYS cared about his fans and his character, jjose712, but this is not the place for that discussion. |
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Of course, I'm sure the fact that the so anticipated gay storyline is practically stalled plays a big role in how these fans feel, but still... Anyway, this is a subjective matter, therefore people don't see the same things. So I guess it's understandable that we disagree: as a fan, I'm glad Chandler told us how he feels about things, even though he didn't have to 
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