Days Of Our Lives - General Discussion

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Will and Sonny had some hot sex scenes, their first 2 tries were very sexy (full body hugs, undressing each other, rolling around in the bed). The scene in Will's dorm (both versions) where they talk about Will moving in with Sonny then Nick comes storming in. The scene after Will comes home from his writing thing where they are drinking wine in bed and the scene after Sonny turns down Will's proposal (with Guy). There was a lot of skin and sweat and exposed chests and legs. LOL. There were also 2 sex-in-the-shower scenes between Wilson (one was a fantasy of Will, with Chandler and the other was with Guy). I've been re-watching so they are fresh in my mind.

I think a lot of the lack of sex scenes with Paul after Will died had to do with Freddie not wanting to be half naked on screen. I say this only because over the years he has been the most reticent and Guy, Chandler and Christopher are always getting their tops off. LOL

As for why Will went to Adrienne, he didn't want to be a coward. He knew his aunt Jennifer would do anything for him but she would then be in conflict with Adrienne if she said yes without clearing it with her. Will went to Adrienne to keep that from happening. If she said no, then he would accept her decision and not make Jennifer have to go to bat for him. It's pretty straight forward and it was the right thing to do.

There is no reason in the world for Adrienne to turn Will down. Being able to write and investigate stories is not a fact about Will's life that he can forget, it's a skill (natural and learned).

For instance you may not remember that you were a police officer if you have Amnesia but you will probably intellectually know how to use a gun (even if you don't remember why you know it)

Will is a talented writer and he is also the father of Adrienne's grandchild (for all intents and purposes) who she lives with in the Kiriakis Mansion of Unspecified Rooms. Adrienne's main issue with Will is that he didn't want Will with Sonny and Will is no longer with Sonny so problem solved.

[elliot]

Paul is spying on Vivian but choses to call it a day.

Will and Paul are once again in their dingy bedsit. Will recounts some of Vivian's history which includes attempting to murder two people. Will sensibly thinks Paul should drop the case. Paul, however, knows about Vivian's misdeeds and thinks he can handle it. Hmm.. the last time Paul thought he could handle things, he and Will ended up locked in a crypt and it was left to Billie, the ISA agent and Tripp, the waiter to take care of the bad guys.

After another non existent sex scene, they lie in bed talking. Will sensibly worries about his ability to do the job he just applied for. Paul reassures him he used to be a good writer and still is. As anyone who has ever earned a living writing for newspapers and magazines knows, many of the necessary skills are learned on the job i.e writing cover lines, researching material, the various interviewing techniques. To name just a few. If you can't even remember having done the job and have made no effort to even write anything on spec, it's hard to believe you'll just be able to step back into a full time gig on a busy newspaper.

Paul then recounts his experiences with asking out both men and women in the past. Will, having no memory of Paul choosing to stay in the closet for years, or that he would still be in the closet if his shoulder injury hadn't put paid to his baseball career, thinks Paul is fearless and wishes he could be more like him. Paul once again reassures him. Odd to read comments suggesting that Will and Paul have a mature, equal relationship. In almost every single exchange, Will is either giggling and making googly eyes like a teenager with a crush on an older person, or needing reassurance. Hard to see that as mature or equal.

Paul also says he and Will are working out better than he could have imagined. He decides to stay in bed rather go and spy on Vivian again which is a shame as he misses out on Vivian hissing commands at Leo which would have revealed her nefarious plan. So much for the dedicated detective. As always, Sonny pops up in the conversation because for some reason Paul feels it necessary to tell Will that Sonny is on a date with Leo.

Adrienne tells Sonny that she has given Will a job and Sonny, sticking to his vow to move on, assures his mother that, while he is pleased for Will, it is not his business and that he has a date with Leo.

Vivian hangs about in the bar where Leo just happens to be waiting to meet Sonny and gets assurances that Leo and Sonny will be going on a date. Seriously, if Leo needs this amount of micro managing why does Vivian believe he is capable of pulling off her scheme.

Sonny arrives and sees Vivian. He and Leo discuss Vivian who Sonny is not impressed by. Leo of course pretends not to know who she is and wonders if Sonny is worried by her. Sonny denies he is. Without any more conversation, Sonny and Leo kiss and Sonny is going to leave it at that but Leo claims to feel a real connection between them. Sonny later sneaks Leo into the mansion past the parents and up the stairs.

As a counterpoint, Justin and Adrienne spend a successful evening together reconnecting. I'll leave it up to y'all to work out why these scenes have been included and are intercut with the Will/Paul and Sonny/Leo scenes.

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Anyway.

Horita and Lonny

April 4 2018 via Pinky Swear FB

[elliot]

Today's episode

Justin and Adrienne clink juice glasses at breakfast, talk about last night (and this morning!) being perfect. They are kissing on the sofa, Sonny enters wearing a tee shirt and sweats. He makes a plate of food to take to his room, Justin says 'you worked up an appetite' Leo appears looking for his socks. Sonny introduces Leo to his parents They smile while Sonny looks embarrassed.

Cut to Viv getting a text from Leo, she says "I knew you could do it!" Stefan asks, 'whose life are you ruining now?'

Adrienne asks Leo to join them, He says he has to go to work. Adrienne says "I like him!" to Justin. Sonny tells Leo he is sorry for the firing squad and sorry you have to leave so soon. Leo says "if you find my other sock..." Sonny says "I'll hold it till next time " - they kiss and Leo leaves.

Adrienne says 'why didn't you tell us you weren't alone last night?' Justin says that would have been awkward, Sonny agrees. Adrienne asks if they're seeing each other again Justin yells "Adrienne!" at the same time Sonny yells "Mom!" Adrienne says "You just spent the night together."Sonny "Mom!!" Justin "Adrienne" Adrienne, ahhhh" Justin gets a call about Gabi's verdict. He rushes off. Sonny and Adrienne are upset.

Leo meets with Viv "my grandmother, who looked a lot like you....my mother, I mean my mother!" He says he had a good time, Sonny did too. She says time for Phase 2 of her plan.

Sonny buttoning his shirt sleeves, rushing off to work, says please call me when you hear from Dad. Adrienne really likes Leo. Sonny says we aren't involved yet. Adrienne keeps questioning Sonny, mentioning his night with Leo and Sonny's love life. Finally he says maybe living under the same roof with my parents is not a good idea. Sonny says look mom, its all new, but I like Leo, he seems very genuine. Adrienne is happy to see Sonny's smile as she was worried about him. Sonny says he will be fine. So far so good Leo is nice and funny

Leo tells Vivian 'You are asking a lot' Viv wants Leo to get to work. She says I am paying you well, think about it.

Adrienne in front of the pub. She calls Sonny who is in HTS. Sonny says he can't go to court as his assistant just quit. Sonny asks his mother to call when she hears anything about Gabi. He adds if it's bad news , 'screw work I'll go be with Ari.' He turns and runs into Leo.

Leo tells Sonny he got offered a permanent position where he temps. Sonny asks, 'where do you work?' and Leo says "Titan Industries." Sonny looks surprised. Viv watches nearby.

So Vivian just happened to find a gay guy who worked at Titan and was able to persuade him to have sex with Sonny? I guess that isn't any more improbable than Vivian knowing the gay bar tender and was able to persuade him to suggest to Sonny to get on Grindr.

[elliot]

Sonny and Leo in HTS. Sonny looks suspicious after hearing about Leo's job at Titan.

Maggie and Victor are in the mansion playing cards. She tells Victor that Sonny is seeing someone. "I hope it makes him forget Will."

Maggie tells Victor that Adrienne thinks Sonny's new relationship is getting serious. Say what?

Maggie lays down her cards and calls "Gin!" - Vivian walks in and says 'drink time already, make mine a double.'

Sonny is even more suspicious of Leo and says 'I am sure I mentioned being the CEO, and you didn't notice who signed your checks?' Leo says. 'Yeah, Jackson Kiriakis.' Sonny says 'something's not adding up. You better tell me what's going on or this is over and you are out of a job.' (The job is as Sonny's administrative assistant. )

Vic says to Vivian 'who let you in?' Vivian says Henderson. Vic says, 'I should have pensioned him off years ago.'

Vivian tells Victor 'you let me go so you could sit here and play Go Fish with Maggie?' (Vivian and Victor used to be married.)

Vivian makes herself a martini. She explains she came to bury the hatchet. Maggie says "In my skull no doubt." Victor reminds Vivian about her threats against him and Sonny Vivian says, "My feelings were just hurt."

Leo is upset that Sonny broke up with him. Sonny says 'sleeping with my assistant is not ok.' Leo says 'so that's it, we are through?' Sonny says, 'you can turn down the job.'

Leo says, 'you really want me to turn the job down?' Sonny tells him, 'we can't work together and I can't be the one to quit.' Leo takes Sonny's hand and tries to change his mind. Sonny says it's a line he cannot cross.

Vivian says, 'can't we shake hands and move on?' Victor says he knows this one and that Vivian will probably be wearing poison nail polish. Victor also says, 'Stefan O is no match for my grand-nephew.'

Maggie shows Vivian out. Victor says she's up to something but he doesn't know what yet. 'As long as she's around we can't let our guard down.'

Leo and Vivian meet. Leo tells her that happened. Vivian is happy Sonny dumped Leo as that is exactly what she wanted. I guess this now may be about blackmail. But why Sonny isn't involved in choosing his own assistant is a mystery.

Justin meets up with Sonny and tells him what happened. (Gabi was found guilty of murdering Andre and sent to Statesville prison prior to sentencing) Justin says Rafe wants to meet with Sonny and Will to talk about Arianna. I guess Rafe wants to make sure they can co-parent her. Seeing as Arianna has her own room at the mansion where she is surrounded by people who love her and she considers Sonny to be one of her fathers, this seems ridiculous.

[sonia38]

Sonny is an honorable man and he did the right thing regarding Leo but that must be the shortest relationship in history. Thank goodness Sonny did not loose his footing and give into Leo. Let’s see where this is going. Let’s just hope Ari stays at the mansion with Sonny cause it sure would be crowded in that tiny room with amnesia daddy and super PI Paul.

Thank you fir the recap Elliot.

[justinate]

The Sonny propping is off the charts. Victor telling Vivian that her son Stefan, who was a cut-throat corporate raider, would be no match for Sonny, the coffee-shop owner, was ludicrous. I hope Viv takes him down, and I don't even like her!

I assume Sonny has no legal rights to Arianna - she already has two living parents and he is no longer married to one of them. Hence Rafe needs to include Will in discussions of her custody.

[elliot]

Hmmm...

The great Stefan O is currently in love with and distracted by a wig and a bad Mexican accent. The real Stefano must be rolling in his grave at the idea that he fathered such a moron.

Sonny, who has just gone through a painful divorce, at least still had enough of his wits about him to smell a rat where Leo is concerned and put an end to things.

[elliot]

Apr 9, 2018 13:42:14 GMT -5 sonia38 said:

Sonny is an honorable man and he did the right thing regarding Leo but that must be the shortest relationship in history. Thank goodness Sonny did not loose his footing and give into Leo. Let’s see where this is going. Let’s just hope Ari stays at the mansion with Sonny cause it sure would be crowded in that tiny room with amnesia daddy and super PI Paul.

Thank you fir the recap Elliot.

I don't even know why Rafe would imagine Will has any interest in Arianna.

Sonny made sure that wherever he lived there was room for Arianna. Unlike Will who decided to set up home in a dingy bedsit where there was no room to accommodate his child because all he cared about was being near Paul.

The whole time Gabi sat in jail waiting for her trial, Sonny was the one worrying about what to tell Arianna and making sure she went to school. Meanwhile Will frolicked in bed with Paul and didn't even mention Arianna.

[0ldsouls]

Apr 9, 2018 19:25:01 GMT -5 justinate said:

The Sonny propping is off the charts. Victor telling Vivian that her son Stefan, who was a cut-throat corporate raider, would be no match for Sonny, the coffee-shop owner, was ludicrous. I hope Viv takes him down, and I don't even like her!

I assume Sonny has no legal rights to Arianna - she already has two living parents and he is no longer married to one of them. Hence Rafe needs to include Will in discussions of her custody.

Happy they pretty much confirmed that Sonny has no legal claims on Arianna, which is exactly why Will's name needed to be included in the conversation. Sure Ari/Sonny's relationship is valid; but not legal. Will may not remember but he has never willingly left his daughter. He was ripped from her life, unlike Sonny who left her to visit Alex in Arizona, moved to Paris after he the broke-up with Will and then back to Paris (because he couldn't "look" at Ari without seeing the man he put through hell for the remaining months of his life by leading him on why he was playing cat and mouse with Paul). People also seem to forget that Sonny's involvement with Ari was retconned like hell. It went from nothing, to us believing they were video chatting for months, the same can be done for Will. Interactions can take place off screen. Also, my favourite Sonny abandoning/ignoring Ari moment would have to be spending all his major holidays with Paul when he returned in 2016. I guess Ari wasn't that important to him. The only reason Sonny cares about her now is because she is literally his only connection to Will. Hell, he even tried using her against Will (multiple times). Will has done this also, but once, not continuously and if anything, he has more of a right to do so, since it's his responsibility to protect his daughter.

I hope Will moves out of the Martin House and gets a bigger place. Sonny's judgement cannot be trusted. He's introducing a complete stranger into his life and even brought him to his family's house, after only going on two dates. Will has avoided Paul being involved with Ari but at least Paul is established to having known her and is a decent person that his family can attest to. Sonny is literally bringing a soon to be blackmailing stranger into his life and if he's around Ari- hers too. I hope Will keeps her away from him, because this situation with Leo is going to blow up and she doesn't need to be around for that. 

Looking forward to Hortia and Arianna scenes 

EDIT: I also have to add I find it hilarious that people who wished literal death on Arianna during the Will cheating SL in 2015 so Sonny could be involved freely with Paul without any attachment holding him to Will, are so defending of the Ari/Sonny relationship now. (This doesn't really have anything to do with this board but I have noticed it in other cases, it may be true idk I don't feel like going back that far). 

[sonia38]

Sonny is Ari’s other father and that’s not going to change. Gabby is her mom and she’d be the first person to want Sonny to be Ari’s caregiver giving the fact that Will has no memory of her and it would be in her best interest to live where she is comfortable and safe. Poor Ari will totally be confused when she sees Will with new boyfriend Paul who two seconds ago was going to marry daddy Sonny. All the tearing down of Sonny character by his haters will not change the fact that he has always been a good father to his daughter and glad to say Paul will never replace Sonny in Ari’s life, it will never ever happen.

[0ldsouls]

Apr 10, 2018 14:35:35 GMT -5 sonia38 said:

Sonny is Ari’s other father and that’s not going to change. Gabby is her mom and she’d be the first person to want Sonny to be Ari’s caregiver giving the fact that Will has no memory of her and it would be in her best interest to live where she is comfortable and safe. Poor Ari will totally be confused when she sees Will with new boyfriend Paul who two seconds ago was going to marry daddy Sonny. All the tearing down of Sonny character by his haters will not change the fact that he has always been a good father to his daughter and glad to say Paul will never replace Sonny in Ari’s life, it will never ever happen.

There's no need to tear down the character of Sonny, he has done that all on his own. Everything I included in my post is canon fact, those were Sonny's actions when it came to Arianna. Ari went one and a half years wth no father, one who willingly left and another who "died". I don't think Arianna will be too confused since she was up until the middle of this year nearly calling Chad "daddy" and now Gabi has Eli in her life. It's a soap; relationships happen, Sami has been with how many men? Will, Ali, Johnny and Sydney as seemed to have survived. 

Paul will be a replacement if he and Will get married. The fact doesn't take away from Sonny and Arianna's relationship, it's still a valid relationship; they love each other, but legally Will is her father and the person Will marries will also be equally as involved in her life as Will. I don't think Ari will be the only child Will has, I can see them giving him another down the line since he is one of the last male Horton's on screen who is a true legacy character. I'm sure he'll have a son Paul can dote on as well. It doesn't matter what Gabi wants or doesn't want. Will is listed on her birth certificate, thus he and Gabi have equal rights. If Gabi wants to change that it has to go to court and even then Will would have to be deemed dangerous and unfit for Gabi to get custody, and I don't see that happening since Gabi already went to jail for murder and is now currently facing life in prison. Sonny is too busy making matches online and hooking up with office employees and only after knowing them for two days, bringing them home, possibly around Ari. Ari is much safer with Will, Rafe, Lucas or Sami over Sonny at the moment. Sonny is too busy rebounding hard to realize that he's about to be in serious legal trouble, not to mention who knows what this person he barely knows is capable of. Not exactly a "star" parent.

[sonia38]

Will and Pail ain’t getting married and will not be having ant kids together.

[elliot]

Apr 10, 2018 14:35:35 GMT -5 sonia38 said:

Sonny is Ari’s other father and that’s not going to change. Gabby is her mom and she’d be the first person to want Sonny to be Ari’s caregiver giving the fact that Will has no memory of her and it would be in her best interest to live where she is comfortable and safe. Poor Ari will totally be confused when she sees Will with new boyfriend Paul who two seconds ago was going to marry daddy Sonny. All the tearing down of Sonny character by his haters will not change the fact that he has always been a good father to his daughter and glad to say Paul will never replace Sonny in Ari’s life, it will never ever happen.

I seem to remember that Will and Gabi made Sonny Arianna's legal guardian.

But, besides that, in every single way that counts Sonny is Arianna's father. He delivered her, he raised her alongside her parents and for the last two years he has been the only father that she has known and Gabi regularly acknowledges this. On top of that the Bradys, the Hortons, the Hernandez family and the Kiriakises all regard Sonny as Arianna's father as does Arianna herself. It is why Rafe wanted to speak to both Will and Sonny and why in today's episode he confirmed that both Will and Sonny were looking after Arianna.

The suggestion that Paul and Will are going to get married and have a bunch more kids is too ridiculous to even debate.

[0ldsouls]

Apr 10, 2018 17:05:36 GMT -5 elliot said:

Apr 10, 2018 14:35:35 GMT -5 sonia38 said:

Sonny is Ari’s other father and that’s not going to change. Gabby is her mom and she’d be the first person to want Sonny to be Ari’s caregiver giving the fact that Will has no memory of her and it would be in her best interest to live where she is comfortable and safe. Poor Ari will totally be confused when she sees Will with new boyfriend Paul who two seconds ago was going to marry daddy Sonny. All the tearing down of Sonny character by his haters will not change the fact that he has always been a good father to his daughter and glad to say Paul will never replace Sonny in Ari’s life, it will never ever happen.

I seem to remember that Will and Gabi made Sonny Arianna's legal guardian.

But, besides that, in every single way that counts Sonny is Arianna's father. He delivered her, he raised her alongside her parents and for the last two years he has been the only father that she has known and Gabi regularly acknowledges this. On top of that the Bradys, the Hortons, the Hernandez family and the Kiriakises all regard Sonny as Arianna's father as does Arianna herself. It is why Rafe wanted to speak to both Will and Sonny and why in today's episode he confirmed that both Will and Sonny were looking after Arianna.

The suggestion that Paul and Will are going to get married and have a bunch more kids is too ridiculous to even debate.

No one said Will and Paul are going to have a bunch of kids. Simply, Will is definitely going to have more children in the future. He’s too much of an important character not to. I think Will and Paul are going to be a lot more lasting than a lot of peope suspect. If Will chooses Paul, I’m sure he will parent what ever kids Will does have. Same if he chooses Sonny. It’s a soap, couples change based on which actors stay on the show and I can see Freddie leaving before both Chandler and Chris. No one is disputing that Sonny has an important relationship with her, if that’s what you got from my post: re-read it. Sonny is not thinking clearly right now to a point where he has a soon to be accomplice to blackmail sleeping over in his house, a house that is supposedly a lot “safer” than Ari being with Will, Rafe, Sami, or Lucas. All of these people would have custody before it would come down to Sonny. It’s simply fact. Will has more legal rights to her than Sonny, hell, Sami does. It doesn’t take away from their relationship it’s just how it is. Hence, Will being brought into the conversation. I’d rather Will just have Ari, he’s too young, but I suspect they will give him more in the future.

[shaunjohn401]

Apr 10, 2018 17:22:31 GMT -5 0ldsouls said:

Apr 10, 2018 17:05:36 GMT -5 elliot said:

I seem to remember that Will and Gabi made Sonny Arianna's legal guardian.

But, besides that, in every single way that counts Sonny is Arianna's father. He delivered her, he raised her alongside her parents and for the last two years he has been the only father that she has known and Gabi regularly acknowledges this. On top of that the Bradys, the Hortons, the Hernandez family and the Kiriakises all regard Sonny as Arianna's father as does Arianna herself. It is why Rafe wanted to speak to both Will and Sonny and why in today's episode he confirmed that both Will and Sonny were looking after Arianna.

The suggestion that Paul and Will are going to get married and have a bunch more kids is too ridiculous to even debate.

No one said Will and Paul are going to have a bunch of kids. Simply, Will is definitely going to have more children in the future. He’s too much of an important character not to. I think Will and Paul are going to be a lot more lasting than a lot of peope suspect. If Will chooses Paul, I’m sure he will parent what ever kids Will does have. Same if he chooses Sonny. It’s a soap, couples change based on which actors stay on the show and I can see Freddie leaving before both Chandler and Chris. No one is disputing that Sonny has an important relationship with her, if that’s what you got from my post: re-read it. Sonny is not thinking clearly right now to a point where he has a soon to be accomplice to blackmail sleeping over in his house, a house that is supposedly a lot “safer” than Ari being with Will, Rafe, Sami, or Lucas. All of these people would have custody before it would come down to Sonny. It’s simply fact. Will has more legal rights to her than Sonny, hell, Sami does. It doesn’t take away from their relationship it’s just how it is. Hence, Will being brought into the conversation. I’d rather Will just have Ari, he’s too young, but I suspect they will give him more in the future.

Sonny has legal rights to Ari so Yes he has more of a say than Rafe, Sami or Lucas. Anyway Will has never or anyone else has never questioned that Sonny is also her father. Gabi has said if something happens to her and Will she wants Ari to stay with Sonny.Will doesn't have space for his daughter to stay overnight with him. Why should Ari stay with him when he can bear take care of himself?

I don't see why everyone keeps thinking Freddie will leave anytime soon. He did leave and returned a year later. He seems happy with the show.

[elliot]

Freddie Smith's contract was up in February and was renewed for another year as is the norm. Why not speculate about Christopher Sean leaving seeing as his contract is up in June and apart being John's other son brings nothing else to the table. There isn't even drama or conflict in his relationship with Will and hence no story.

The Kiriakises have become a core family and there are endless SL possibilities for family members, of which Sonny is one. Sonny and Will have a complicated relationship, made more so by Will amnesia and his relationship with Paul. Right now Sonny is in danger from Vivian and Leo and Will is on the verge of getting involved. So oodles of story.

[0ldsouls]

Apr 12, 2018 4:57:46 GMT -5 elliot said:

Freddie Smith's contract was up in February and was renewed for another year as is the norm. Why not speculate about Christopher Sean leaving seeing as his contract is up in June and apart being John's other son brings nothing else to the table. There isn't even drama or conflict in his relationship with Will and hence no story.

The Kiriakises have become a core family and there are endless SL possibilities for family members, of which Sonny is one. Sonny and Will have a complicated relationship, made more so by Will amnesia and his relationship with Paul. Right now Sonny is in danger from Vivian and Leo and Will is on the verge of getting involved. So oodles of story.

Theres no confirmation it was renewed. TPTB sometimes extend contracts for a couple of months if they’re finishing up a story, so I wouldn’t act too sure about that; you may be disappointed. CS could leave but his contract is good until June and he and Chandler seemed positive regarding the renewal, we heard nothing from Freddie or Billy (two people it is speculated are leaving). I’m sure we’ll hear more in A few weeks as it’s become clear Billy is almost 99% gone and we’re due for a cast shake up. Also, the character of Will has enough history on his own to have stories that doesn’t involve neither Paul or Sonny. I’m not really a Paul fan (I’m personally a Will fan) but Paul is an interesting character, he serves more of a purpose than screaming at family members in his family’s living room about running a company we never see.

[elliot]

Today's episode

Kate is in the DiMera living room looking at the secret door. Paul arrives and notices she is preoccupied. Kate asks what he's found out about Vivian.

Vivian meets with Leo. Leo tells her that Sonny avoided him at work. Sonny didn't even make eye contact or get within an arm's length of him. Vivian orders Leo to get Sonny into bed ASAP.

At the mansion, Sonny has just put Ari to bed. He says to Justin that Ari would love a kiss from her grandpa. Sonny can't bring himself to tell Ari the truth about Gabi and has said that Gabi is on a trip. Justin tells Sonny that Gabi is depressed and pissed as hell. They talk about why Abby lied on the stand.

Adrienne is eating with Will in the pub. Will says that Jennifer already took him out to lunch. Adrienne says she has a story idea - she wants him to do a story about himself. Who didn't see this coming?

Leo tells Vivian that Sonny clearly shot him down. Vivian reminds him that she is paying him a lot of money and orders him again to get Sonny back into bed.

Sonny moans to Justin about the chances of him dating for the first time in forever only to find out that Leo works at Titan. Justin said it's always a good idea not to get involved with an employee.

Adrienne explains to Will that she wants him to investigate the story of his death.

Paul tells Kate that he followed Vivian to the Kiriakis mansion. Paul then talked to Maggie and got the reason for Vivian's visit. Kate is less than impressed that Paul hasn't found out much so far. Paul explains that he and John are juggling cases. Kate says that even a blind Steve could do better than Paul and then fires him.

Justin suggests that Sonny fire Leo. Sonny says he thought of that but Leo likes the job and he's good at it. Sonny figures Leo can get experience and he can then give him a good recommendation for a new job.

Justin says maybe if Sonny and Leo like each other Leo should quit so they can see each other. Leo calls Sonny while Vivian is standing alongside and asks if they can meet in the cafe. Sonny asks it can wait, Leo insists it can't. Justin warns Sonny that it seems like a bad idea.

Will is uncomfortable with Adrienne's suggestion. He points out there is nothing new to add to the necktie story and that his mother already tried to re-strangle him to get his memory back. Adrienne says that's not what she meant. She wants to do a story about Will's resurrection and the injection Dr Rolf gave him which saved his life.

Leo asked Sonny to meet him by the park bench. Sonny says they should go to the HTS and he'll buy him a cup of coffee. Vivian watches them from the bushes. Sonny says anything Leo wants to say he can say it there. Leo says "not this" and then kisses him.

Sonny pushes Leo back and asks what was that? Leo says he has wanted to do that all day. Sonny says it can't happen. Leo says it can be their super hot secret and asks Sonny to come home with him as no one will know. (Leo imagines this is charming?)

Will insists it's not an amazing story. Really, Will? Really? Adrienne says she means the drug, not Will. The drug could be a medical miracle. Will says there's is no way in hell that he is interviewing Susan. So much for Will's natural journalistic instincts and nose for a great story.

Adrienne says she didn't mean to upset Will but Susan is the only link to Rolf's research. Will says Susan had a mental breakdown and that he keeps up with her progress through Roger. He doesn't talk to Susan as she is still institutionalised. Will says Susan was a kind and loving mom but she robbed him of his life and memories. He doesn't think it would help anyone to reach out to her. Adrienne says she understands but the potential story is compelling and Will should think about it.

Leo says there is a connection between them and he knows Sonny feels it. (After two coffee dates and a one night?)

Sonny says they can't do this. Leo says knowing it's a secret makes it more exciting. Sonny says he can't do it morally, ethically or any other way. Sonny explains he was in a relationship before where he had to sneak around and he didn't like the way it made him feel. Sonny says his father is legal counsel for Titan and he says it's a bad idea. Leo pushes Sonny to change his mind but Sonny says if he means that much to Leo then Leo could just quit. He tells Leo not to try to start this up again. It's not going to happen and that's final. (You tell that conman Sonny.)

Kate drinks a martini in the pub. Will walks up with a glass of wine and asks to join her. He thanks her for the Countess W job offer but says he started at the Spectator today. She asks how it's going. Will says his first assignment is problematic. Kate offers him advice, insight and a drinking companion. (Always nice to see Will interacting with his family.)

Kate says that as a cancer survivor she agrees with Adrienne - the article could possibly save lives and make Will a big success in the process. She adds that Will's articles were always life altering. (Really?) Will has anxiety thinking about talking to Susan. Kate says there may be someone else Will can talk to besides Susan.

At the mansion, Justin and Adrienne say they feel bad about Sonny and Leo but Sonny's doing the right thing. Sonny walks in looking upset. He says that Leo wanted to have his cake and eat it too, but Sonny is off carbs so Leo is out of luck. (Horrible line)

Vivian tells Leo not to forget that he is the predator and Sonny is the prey. Leo says he hasn't given up. They walk away and Paul steps out from behind the archway looking suspicious.

[shaunjohn401]

Casey moss contract was up in December or January but he still there so they don't always say if a actor renew they're contract or not. On Instagram on his birthday post Freddie talked about how much he like the show and stuff. Again he just left and came back. Him not posting about the renew is weird but he doesn't post much anyway.

So Will writing about the drug the brought him back to life. But shouldn't he know something about it already since it erased his memory. I thought he wanted to get back his memory.

[elliot]

Will has no interest in anything pertaining to his lost memories or anything that could help him get them back. So it's funny to hear him complain about Susan having robbed him of his life and memories.

Right now Will should be thanking Susan and Rolf. Because of them he gets to have sex in a bedsit with Paul, a man he previously sleep with to get a byline, and completely ignore the fact he has a daughter whose mother is currently in Stateville prison and who is being looked after and worried about by the now ex husband Will decided he no longer wanted or cared about.

[elliot]

Apr 12, 2018 6:25:49 GMT -5 0ldsouls said:

Apr 12, 2018 4:57:46 GMT -5 elliot said:

Freddie Smith's contract was up in February and was renewed for another year as is the norm. Why not speculate about Christopher Sean leaving seeing as his contract is up in June and apart being John's other son brings nothing else to the table. There isn't even drama or conflict in his relationship with Will and hence no story.

The Kiriakises have become a core family and there are endless SL possibilities for family members, of which Sonny is one. Sonny and Will have a complicated relationship, made more so by Will amnesia and his relationship with Paul. Right now Sonny is in danger from Vivian and Leo and Will is on the verge of getting involved. So oodles of story.

Theres no confirmation it was renewed. TPTB sometimes extend contracts for a couple of months if they’re finishing up a story, so I wouldn’t act too sure about that; you may be disappointed. CS could leave but his contract is good until June and he and Chandler seemed positive regarding the renewal, we heard nothing from Freddie or Billy (two people it is speculated are leaving). I’m sure we’ll hear more in A few weeks as it’s become clear Billy is almost 99% gone and we’re due for a cast shake up. Also, the character of Will has enough history on his own to have stories that doesn’t involve neither Paul or Sonny. I’m not really a Paul fan (I’m personally a Will fan) but Paul is an interesting character, he serves more of a purpose than screaming at family members in his family’s living room about running a company we never see.

Unless an announcement is made it's a given that a contract has been renewed and for a year. And it's pretty clear that Freddie Smith is still filming as he and Chandler Massey recently filmed themselves in their dressing room congratulating Greg Vaughn (Eric Brady) for getting an Emmy nomination. Days films 6 months ahead so that means Freddie will be seen in October and beyond. But if you want to continue to believe that Freddie's contract was only extended for a few months that is your prerogative.

[0ldsouls]

Apr 12, 2018 15:08:23 GMT -5 elliot said:

Apr 12, 2018 6:25:49 GMT -5 0ldsouls said:

Theres no confirmation it was renewed. TPTB sometimes extend contracts for a couple of months if they’re finishing up a story, so I wouldn’t act too sure about that; you may be disappointed. CS could leave but his contract is good until June and he and Chandler seemed positive regarding the renewal, we heard nothing from Freddie or Billy (two people it is speculated are leaving). I’m sure we’ll hear more in A few weeks as it’s become clear Billy is almost 99% gone and we’re due for a cast shake up. Also, the character of Will has enough history on his own to have stories that doesn’t involve neither Paul or Sonny. I’m not really a Paul fan (I’m personally a Will fan) but Paul is an interesting character, he serves more of a purpose than screaming at family members in his family’s living room about running a company we never see.

Unless an announcement is made it's a given that a contract has been renewed and for a year. And it's pretty clear that Freddie Smith is still filming as he and Chandler Massey recently filmed themselves in their dressing room congratulating Greg Vaughn (Eric Brady) for getting an Emmy nomination. Days films 6 months ahead so that means Freddie will be seen in October and beyond. But if you want to continue to believe that Freddie's contract was only extended for a few months that is your prerogative.

I'm not debating whether or not Freddie is in contract or still on the show. All I said was that the show has extended contracts in the past to finish storylines. We currently have a new HW at the helm who has made very little casting changes. It's obvious we're in for a big shake up coming soon. For some of the actors the writing is on the wall, such as Billy for example, since you seem to think Freddie has a ten year deal. The show/media is currently pushing Stefan and Abigail as the next big pairing to compete with Chabby, coupled with Billy's last lustre performances and subsequent radio silence the writing is there. Also, I think this is the 10th post you have stated to me that they film six months in advance, yes, I realize and acknowledge this, no one said Freddie wouldn't be airing six months from the last time we saw him on set.

All I'm saying is not to be so certain that your favourite is still on the show because they're still filming. Give it a month or so and we'll see who is still standing when the dust settles. If they are not in contract until next year, they're at risk.  TPTB are also probably waiting until around mid-April or May, this is also when literally most of the actors contracts are up and big changes are definitely coming. So them extending a contract for a few months is typical and has been done in the past to finish a SL. The only reason I defended CS staying is because he, like nearly all of the cast celebrated the show being renewed; yet nothing from Billy or Freddie. Maybe they couldn't be bothered? Sure, but it is extremely interesting to note. Some of the celebrating actors could also be fired, so I wouldn't count someone as renewed just because they still appear on set after their contract is over. This is the latest a HW has waited to shake up the cast so Ron probably temporarily extended a few contracts to wrap things up for a few actors.

[elliot]

What you are saying makes no sense. Days films six months ahead. Freddie Smith's contract was up in Feb. He would not be on the set right now if he had been let go. The fact he is on set means he is still filming. If he is still filming he will be seen in October. RC has already told us that Will and Sonny will be reunited. What is currently happening on screen bears that out. If that still doesn't register then I am done.

[shaunjohn401]

Freddie has talked about Days how much he enjoys the show. It on Instagram after the renewal was released. So he didn't talk the renewal itself but he talked how much he enjoys the show. Freddie or Billy not tweeting about the renewal is not that important IMO.