Days Of Our Lives - General Discussion

[blake]

Here is my opinion I get where alot of people are concerned I will be lying if I told you that I wasn't I am but I'm also very excited.Here is another thing to keep in mind Days was given a two-year renewal by NBC through September 2013 with an option for a renewal through 2014.Which means if they want to Days in 2013 they can the 2014 part was only if Days was doing good in the raitings.I personally think that Days is doing this for raitings and to show that their not as conservative as people think they are.I don't see any negativity on here I see it as passionate people who want a gay storyline done with humanity and respect.And not what Y&R did which was a joke also we have to consider that Days just didn't deicide ok where going to do a gay storyline.No they have been thinking about this for almost 8 years now also NOTHING IS A DONE DEAL!!!So Days could very much ax this storyline before it gets started.

[overtherainbow]

Apr 1, 2011 10:21:20 GMT -5 jjose712 said:

Mar 31, 2011 15:49:21 GMT -5 overtherainbow said:

But how do you know that the same thing will happen here? You have to remember that Noah was ALWAYS a guest/recurring character. He was NEVER a regular. And that's why NUKE got so little screen time, because Noah was never part of the main cast and he only had a limited amount of screen time. Besides, the writers of ATWT really jumped the shark when they removed BOTH of Noah's parents. Who else was he gonna interact with? It's different here though, Will is a part of one of the most popular families on DAYS, and Chad is a part of one of the most hated families. The difference between this soap and ATWT is that these characters, and these families most of the time interact with each other. Lucas and Sami always had a difficult relationship to the DiMeras because of EJ and stuff, so this could make for some GREAT viewing. This has so much potential. Not only the fact that they are gay, but the rivaling families aspect, and if they go with Chad you do have the homophobic dad thing too.

What I don't get is WHY you are all being so negative from the start? I get that gay storylines on other soaps have been far from perfect, they basically failed. However, how do you know know the same thing will happen here? Maybe they will get it right this time! I generally like the writing on Days, sure it's "out there" sometimes, but it's much more consistent than the INSANE writing on ATWT ever was! I'm just saying that PLEASE give them the benefit of the doubt. You can complain AFTER the storyline starts if it really is as bad as you all claim it will be. I on the other hand am glad they are doing a gay storyline at all, and I am cautiously optimistic.

And btw.. maybe the actor wasn't homophobic, but I still wouldn't want an actor afraid of the gay scenes playing a gay character. We all saw how that affected Emmerdale, when Danny Miller wouldn't show any PDA or kiss because it didn't "fit the character", because his character was basically afraid of emotions and getting close to people. Anyway.. everything I've read have let me to believe that these actors (Chad and Will) are both committed and interested in playing gay characters. They already have a lot of chemistry and a huge fan base. So everything point to the fact that a gay storyline on daytime might actually work! And I think you saying "who would wants to play a gay character on daytime?" is really negative. Why wouldn't they? I see it as such a great opportunity and challenge for ANY actor to play a convincing gay character. So how is this a bad thing?

And about B&B.. I haven't read ANYTHING about them doing a gay storyline, and who would that involve exactly? I don't believe them just because I've basically heard nothing, so yeah.. I too doubt that B&B is going to go there. I think it's just talks, at least for now. DAYS have actually had some conversations with the cast and has issued casting calls about their gay storyline, so they seem to have come further in the process. And anyway.. I never liked B&B, the soap was just so "fake", I don't know.. it's just something about that soap that doesn't work for me, it's the concept I guess. And I don't see how they could play out a gay storyline on a soap that only has 22 minutes episodes? Anyways, to sum it up: I'm more convinced about the gay storyline on DAYS than a potential storyline on B&B.

I'm not negative, i'm realistic.
Days is a conservative soap, the first time the gay storyline was announced there were a good bunch of "i don't want a gay storyline in my soap) in several forums (but to be true there were a lot more of "i want the story to be about with Chad and Will).
The truth is there were a lot of rumours about Days doing a gay storyline for a long long time, in fact i read that they wanted Van Hansis to play one of the characters (that was a year ago, and i don't know if it's true).
Days is not in a good moment on the ratings and in my opinion it's the right timing to do it, because they have nothing to lose.
And yes, if they go the Chand and Will route, they have a great advantage over ATWT (Luke was a core character and very popular before the gay couple started, but Noah was a newbie without any links to other characters) and OLTL (both were practically newbies).
ATWT fail because they were too coward, and the writers were really bad, and it was a pity because they have all to win, because Nuke became really popular, and they had a positive effect on ratings, and it would be very easy to integrate Noah on Oakdale and make them part of eveything. But they make them live in a bubble and most of their storyline revolve around them being gay.
OLTL did a nice job at the begining, but in my opinion they were way overpraised. The truth is that even when the storyline was nice (before all the baby storyline) they made some big mistakes, like the gay massive wedding and the gay bashing storyline (that was even offensive). Kyle and Fish were not part of the core families, but with their professions it would be very easy integrate them.
I remember people telling that OLTL commitment was greater than ATWT, and all that, but we know what happens.

It's better not to mention Y&R, i don't understand why this is the most popular soap, because what i watched was really really awful.

Will Days will do a better job? i hope so, but i keep my hopes low, because everything that it was released to the press is so vague and ambiguous.
It will be good that the actors have a commitment with their roles, because without that the storyline wouldn't work. Nuke, Lure and Kish were a success because of the actors not the writing.
And i agree with you about Emmerdale, Danny can be all good he wants on dramatic scenes, if he play a gay character and he is not able to make believable his atraction to his boyfriend, his interpretation is a faliure , that could be understandable at the begining, because it must be difficult to adjust a character that you built thinking he is straight, but not now, and his explanations about Aaron being restrained are just stupid, because Aaron hadn't any problem in showing his affection for Adam's sister. It's Danny and not Aaron the one who has problems with showing affection (even when the character is a restrained one).

I think it depends the route that Days will follow, if they pair Chad or Will with a newbie, they will do the ATWT route, and that works well for them, so if the storyline is good it can work here too (but with the difference that ATWT did a long arc about Luke's coming out first, so the people were ready for him having a boyfriend when Noah appears).
If they will follow the Chill route, they have an obvious advantage, because, come on, there are even a lot of fan videos about them when people thought they were straight. If the storyline is well done is a win/win situation.

We'll see

Jjose, I understand you are skeptical. I am too! But the thing is that I don't think an attitude like this is gonna help. Do you really think the writers want to do this storyline at all if all they see is "they will only mess it up"? How do you think that will help the cause?

I also get that you criticize soaps, and you have all the right too. However, a small part of me do wish you would at least TRY to be a bit more positive.

And about "rumors before". Yeah, there have been rumors about Days doing a gay storyline before, but it seems more serious this time around. I think the fact that the writers are in talks with the actors is a good sign, and they have even issued casting calls! I'd say they are further along than just "rumors and speculation". They seem to be serious this time. I mean, sure, it can all fall through. But nothing points to that. Everything points to the fact that they are committed to doing a gay storyline, it seems they want to do a good job too, according to Blake anyway.

Also.. DAYS is an EXTREMELY slow moving soap. One storyline, ONE day on that soap can last for months in real time. Maybe they WERE planning this storyline since last year? Maybe they just had to wait for the right time to implement it, to make it fit with the other storylines? That's what it seems like, according to what Blake has told us. He said they have had this storyline in the back of their heads for a while. I'm sure they have wanted to do it for a long time, they just had to wait for the right time to do it!

And I agree that the best thing would be Chill, but Will with a new guy would be good too. Also, I agree that the actors seem to be committed to doing the storyline, with all it implies, and both of them seem gay-friendly. So that's a plus.

[justinate]

Okay, I think the one thing we can agree on is that a gay storyline would be great, especially if it includes Will and/or Chad. Our problem is the story isn't set in stone yet. No one has been cast for the role of Ryan and there has been a lot of conflicting information on which existing character will come out, if any at all. So I agree it is important to show Days our support for a gay storyline and we can start by voting in this poll:
blog.soapoperafan.com/2011/03/days-of-our-lives-poll-a-will-and-chad-romance/

There are many options: Do you want Chill? Do you want one of the guys with a newbie? Do you think they should be bi? etc. Sadly though, most people (over 400 votes = 58%) have voted Never, i.e. no gay storyline whatsoever involving even one of these characters. We need to beat these people, so get everyone you know to vote for one of the other options.

The two actors involved are definitely gay-friendly; they have both joined the NO H8 campaign. I think most of us heard the rumor that Will was recast with Chandler because the previous actor was not comfortable playing gay, and Chandler has known from the get-go that his character might turn out gay so he is playing Will this way (with homoerotic subtext). There are a couple of Chill fan videos out there (I wish I knew how to embed Youtube videos here) and even an appearance by the guys at ACME comedy night where Chandler complains that Casey promised to "rehearse" scenes with him (the skit was using "rehearse" as innuendo for sex).

Chandler for the NO H8 campaign:

[blake]

Here is something from a Days message board that might help!

www.dayscafe.com/hot-spoilers.html

[overtherainbow]

I really hope the DAYS writers will ignore these polls and dare to do a gay storyline EVEN if it's not popular by the fundies and EVEN though it'll get a lot of negativity and complaints at first. I did vote in the poll btw, and I will certainly spread the word, even though it doesn't look good at the moment. However, I think this storyline can be immensely popular after a while! Didn't NUKE also had a similar negativity at first? And see how popular they became! I just hope the writers have the guts to follow through with this, and that it may not be a popular decision at first, and yeah, it will probably get a lot of complaints. But I hope they stick to it, and I honestly think that many people WILL change their minds about Chill or Will and a potential other love interest if they decide to do it and if the writers actually give them something substantial to work with. I think since DAYS is a conservative soap then it wouldn't be far fetched to assume that many of the viewers have NOT seen many gay storylines on tv before. Maybe some of them won't come around, but I truly believe some of them will come around when they get used to the idea.. if you know what I mean, ugh, it's hard to explain

I want to apologize for overreacting earlier. And I think I may have tried to make it worse by trying to explain myself! lol. I think you get it now though, justinate, and I'm glad All I want is for us to try and be positive and let the writers see that we want a gay storyline, because I think people being too negative can only hurt our chances.. if you know what I mean. Sure, the storyline CAN suck. But lets worry about IF and WHEN that happens! Hell, we don't even know for sure if there WILL be a gay storyline yet, and even if it seems bright right now, all can still fall through, you never know. And this is basically WHY I want us to stay positive and try to voice our opinion, that we really DO WANT this gay storyline and that we do credit the writers for having the courage to go down this road!

BTW, glad to see the actor playing Will is gay-friendly in real life too

I just hope we get some OFFICIAL information soon. Not that I'm not grateful for all of the information we get from Blake, trust me, I am VERY grateful, Blake! Please keep us updated Maybe on the other hand they won't do an announcement before the storyline actually starts because they're afraid of bad reactions and the consequences of them maybe having to pull the plug on the whole thing.. I think that's why everything is so tight lipped. The writers WANT to do this, but they're also working against A LOT of conservative viewers who won't like it, so they're trying to soften the blow

[overtherainbow]

Apr 1, 2011 12:58:12 GMT -5 blake said:

Here is something from a Days message board that might help!

www.dayscafe.com/hot-spoilers.html

Thanks for the new spoilers! I guess it's official then, or as close to official as it can get? So they are going with Will after all? I wonder why they put Chad in the mix as the gay one, hmm.. Will has always seemed gay though, so it's not like it's a big surprise. He is the most realistic gay guy on the show for sure. I know Chad being gay is a very small chance now. But I still hope I'll get my Chill. I don't know.. making Will gay is a step in the right direction, and getting him a boyfriend is AWESOME! ;D Maybe Chill will happen in the future? who knows..

[jjose712]

Yes Nuke have a really negative reaction (i think Kish had to deal with a lot less negativity because they were new characters) and that doesn't affect to their popularity (but affected the way the show carry the storyline).
The difference is that Days knows what happens with the other soaps that try the gay storyline, so if they finally try it, it's because they wanted to do it, or because they consider the benefits are more than the risks. Because i think is far better not doing anything at all that pulling something like Y&R.

And i don't think my skepticism matters at all, i'm not a potential viewer, so Days tptb couldn't care less what someone like me thinks. I really miss AE liveblogings, even in the worst ATWT and OLTL episodes, that was funny to read. And right now i just doesn't like any soap (in my opinion there's a lot of criticism about american soaps, but european ones are very far from being good at this moment) so i really wanted to find a new one to watch. And as i say before i would be a lot less skeptical if the news about Days were a little less vague, because right now we know they are thinking about doing the gay storyline, but we don't know anything more

[blake]

It's like I said all along and like my friend told me untill you hear OFFICAL WORD from Days themselves you take everything has hear say.Nothing has been confirmed and nothing has been denied all we know for sure that Chandler is willing to play gay and so is Casey so that's a plus!!!!

[overtherainbow]

Apr 1, 2011 16:15:00 GMT -5 jjose712 said:

Yes Nuke have a really negative reaction (i think Kish had to deal with a lot less negativity because they were new characters) and that doesn't affect to their popularity (but affected the way the show carry the storyline).
The difference is that Days knows what happens with the other soaps that try the gay storyline, so if they finally try it, it's because they wanted to do it, or because they consider the benefits are more than the risks. Because i think is far better not doing anything at all that pulling something like Y&R.

And i don't think my skepticism matters at all, i'm not a potential viewer, so Days tptb couldn't care less what someone like me thinks. I really miss AE liveblogings, even in the worst ATWT and OLTL episodes, that was funny to read. And right now i just doesn't like any soap (in my opinion there's a lot of criticism about american soaps, but european ones are very far from being good at this moment) so i really wanted to find a new one to watch. And as i say before i would be a lot less skeptical if the news about Days were a little less vague, because right now we know they are thinking about doing the gay storyline, but we don't know anything more

Ok. I get it, jjose. But if you're not even gonna watch, then WHY all of this? It doesn't make any sense.. it makes even less sense now that you say you won't see it anyway. So I don't get the need to hate on DAYS for doing a gay storyline? And how do you know it will suck anyway? Maybe they WILL do it well this time around? And I really don't think it's fair to compare it with Y&R at all.

I'm not trying to be rude here, but I don't really get what you are doing on this thread if you are not going to watch and IN ADDITION to that be extremely pessimistic about it. I just think it's unnecessary. And like I said, I'd rather have us try to focus on the positive, because someone MIGHT read this board, you never know. And if you're just going to be all negative without even wanting to see the storyline.. I just don't get the point of it all.

You can have your opinion of course, but like I said, I just find it highly annoying that you are so negative, and I highly disagree with what you are saying.

[overtherainbow]

Apr 1, 2011 16:15:36 GMT -5 blake said:

It's like I said all along and like my friend told me untill you hear OFFICAL WORD from Days themselves you take everything has hear say.Nothing has been confirmed and nothing has been denied all we know for sure that Chandler is willing to play gay and so is Casey so that's a plus!!!!

Ok, thanks for the update, Blake!

I am cautiously optimistic I know they've been in talks with the actors, so that is positive, and now spoilers about Will being gay have popped up too, also a positive thing.

Like I said, I think they will wait till the last minute to announce the storyline, just because I think they risk too much by saying anything too early. They WANT to do this storyline, and they risk it getting cut before it even gets started if they come out with this info too early.

[jjose712]

Apr 1, 2011 16:56:36 GMT -5 overtherainbow said:

Apr 1, 2011 16:15:00 GMT -5 jjose712 said:

Yes Nuke have a really negative reaction (i think Kish had to deal with a lot less negativity because they were new characters) and that doesn't affect to their popularity (but affected the way the show carry the storyline).
The difference is that Days knows what happens with the other soaps that try the gay storyline, so if they finally try it, it's because they wanted to do it, or because they consider the benefits are more than the risks. Because i think is far better not doing anything at all that pulling something like Y&R.

And i don't think my skepticism matters at all, i'm not a potential viewer, so Days tptb couldn't care less what someone like me thinks. I really miss AE liveblogings, even in the worst ATWT and OLTL episodes, that was funny to read. And right now i just doesn't like any soap (in my opinion there's a lot of criticism about american soaps, but european ones are very far from being good at this moment) so i really wanted to find a new one to watch. And as i say before i would be a lot less skeptical if the news about Days were a little less vague, because right now we know they are thinking about doing the gay storyline, but we don't know anything more

Ok. I get it, jjose. But if you're not even gonna watch, then WHY all of this? It doesn't make any sense.. it makes even less sense now that you say you won't see it anyway. So I don't get the need to hate on DAYS for doing a gay storyline? And how do you know it will suck anyway? Maybe they WILL do it well this time around? And I really don't think it's fair to compare it with Y&R at all.

I'm not trying to be rude here, but I don't really get what you are doing on this thread if you are not going to watch and IN ADDITION to that be extremely pessimistic about it. I just think it's unnecessary. And like I said, I'd rather have us try to focus on the positive, because someone MIGHT read this board, you never know. And if you're just going to be all negative without even wanting to see the storyline.. I just don't get the point of it all.

You can have your opinion of course, but like I said, I just find it highly annoying that you are so negative, and I highly disagree with what you are saying.

I know my english is not good, but where you get the impression that i don't wanna watch?
If i don't wanna watch i just don't lose my time comenting here. If i post here is because i'm interested.

And i'm sorry that you don't like what i write, but that's not my problem. The only thing i say is that i keep my hopes low because the precedents on american soaps are not good, that's all.
Everybody is entittle to have their own oppinions, and the same way you find annoying mine, i find most of them too much optimistic, because we don't know anything at all about this storyline
But i hope you are right and the storyline will be good

[josean06]

I can't wait for the storyline to start! I hope it starts in the Summer, so I have something to watch! Have you people not seen the scenes between Chad and Will? It's scary chemistry! They've got so much tension between each others, its crazy! They look like a young Luke and Noah again! I've read that they will make Will gay, it's from a reliable source at DaysCafe. I'm excited, there's been so much gay subtext between the two guys, if they become a couple, of they don't, doesn't matter. As long as I have a legitimate reason to start watching daytime soaps.

The one thing I don't like is Chandler's overacting. He goes too far with his facial expressions, and sometimes his intonations are off, but he's doing an okay job. As for Casey, he's doing fine, it's some of the scenes he's been given that make it awkward.

At the moment Will is going out with Gabi, but there's no chemistry for me there. Same with Chad and Abby, there's nothing there. I did feel something where they first hung out with just the two of them, but I didn't feel sparks.

It's obvious that Days is hinting t Will. Will and Chad had never been really close friends, just acquaintances really, and sometime rivals. But when I started watching scenes where Will became really concerned for Chad, fretting about Chad not returning his calls, it was just obvious. As for Chad, there's just the tension between them, and mutual respect. The one scene where Chad tells his step-mom that he stayed in Salem because of Will was sweet. Just because he didn't want to go to Wake Forest to meet people that might know his mom was and okay reason, but not enough for me to give up such a big school.

My two cents, if they do the storyline, they have nothing to lose. Days has been in the bottom three for the past few months, and bottom two the past two weeks. The storylines are just going around in circles, it'd be nice to add something new. Besides, Days has been renewed until 2014, so if it doesn't work, it doesn't work. They'll have time to redeem themselves. But I assure you, it WILL work, just my overbearing optimism I guess. Chill FTW!!

[md1347]

I think history, especially on US soaps, tells us that it may not go well. I hope we are wrong. I will certainly give it a chance but I won't become invested in the characters. There has been no real commitment from US soaps in writing and keeping a "good gay storyline" going.

Kish kill happened because someone wanted them gone. It wasn't because of the bad ratings because there were too many different excuses put out like blaming the actors, other actors bitching about Kish's airtime and their lack of airtime, ratings, etc... Ratings did drop for a while after they ended Kish, so that's a testament to the story, even if they didn't get everything right. But we did get the 1st gay lovescene and afterglow on daytime.

Nuke was popular because of the chemistry of the Jake and Van. Most of the storylines sucked and the endgame sucked even worse. LuRe and the killing of Reid was just an excuse not to have a good gay endgame, IMO.

[josean06]

Apr 1, 2011 23:05:13 GMT -5 md1347 said:

I think history, especially on US soaps, tells us that it may not go well. I hope we are wrong. I will certainly give it a chance but I won't become invested in the characters. There has been no real commitment from US soaps in writing and keeping a "good gay storyline" going.

Kish kill happened because someone wanted them gone. It wasn't because of the bad ratings because there were too many different excuses put out like blaming the actors, other actors bitching about Kish's airtime and their lack of airtime, ratings, etc... Ratings did drop for a while after they ended Kish, so that's a testament to the story, even if they didn't get everything right. But we did get the 1st gay lovescene and afterglow on daytime.

Nuke was popular because of the chemistry of the Jake and Van. Most of the storylines sucked and the endgame sucked even worse. LuRe and the killing of Reid was just an excuse not to have a good gay endgame, IMO.

History does tell us that gays don't last long on daytime. Kish didn't even last a year, and Nuke lasted for 3, but really, it was off and on, and bad storylines were given to these two. But who doesn't get bad storylines, Kish was the closest to reaching that goal, and they could've been a part of the OLTL canvas longer, but ABC caved.

Daytime has always been a conservative time slot for any show. Regardless of the network, it depends on the viewers overall opinion to see if a character or couple is successful.

All I can say is that we'll just have to see in May, or hopefully late April whether the storyline is a good one or not. Days, like I said, has nothing to lose, they've got at least a year to make the storyline attract the most viewers as possible, because they are a sinking ship in Daytime, along with OLTL and AMC.

[overtherainbow]

Apr 1, 2011 18:54:00 GMT -5 jjose712 said:

Apr 1, 2011 16:56:36 GMT -5 overtherainbow said:

Ok. I get it, jjose. But if you're not even gonna watch, then WHY all of this? It doesn't make any sense.. it makes even less sense now that you say you won't see it anyway. So I don't get the need to hate on DAYS for doing a gay storyline? And how do you know it will suck anyway? Maybe they WILL do it well this time around? And I really don't think it's fair to compare it with Y&R at all.

I'm not trying to be rude here, but I don't really get what you are doing on this thread if you are not going to watch and IN ADDITION to that be extremely pessimistic about it. I just think it's unnecessary. And like I said, I'd rather have us try to focus on the positive, because someone MIGHT read this board, you never know. And if you're just going to be all negative without even wanting to see the storyline.. I just don't get the point of it all.

You can have your opinion of course, but like I said, I just find it highly annoying that you are so negative, and I highly disagree with what you are saying.

I know my english is not good, but where you get the impression that i don't wanna watch?
If i don't wanna watch i just don't lose my time comenting here. If i post here is because i'm interested.

And i'm sorry that you don't like what i write, but that's not my problem. The only thing i say is that i keep my hopes low because the precedents on american soaps are not good, that's all.
Everybody is entittle to have their own oppinions, and the same way you find annoying mine, i find most of them too much optimistic, because we don't know anything at all about this storyline
But i hope you are right and the storyline will be good

I thought I read that you weren't even interested in the storyline? Hmm, I think I might have misunderstood then if that's not you meant.

Listen, I get that you are pessimistic, I really do. I know Kish, Y&R and to some extent, Nuke, were done badly.. I get that some of you do not have much hope. I totally understand that, and I know perfectly well it can end up badly. However, I try to stay cautiously optimistic, and I don't think attitudes like this is gonna help them doing the storyline. They get enough negativity as it is from their conservative viewers so I think it would be good to at least try to be fairly optimistic here. This is just my opinion, and you don't have to agree with me. Being optimistic is just a suggestion.

I just don't understand though.. you basically say the same thing over and over again (not necessarily you, but many posters in this thread). And yeah, we get what you are saying, but is it really necessary to repeat this OVER and OVER again? I am totally fine with people criticizing them, but please find something new, because we have heard why you don't like it and why it won't work. That has been said a 100 times already. Can we please start to discuss the potential storyline? Because I think we all know why you guys think it will fail now, and it's time to move on and discuss it, to at least try and bring something substantial to the discussion not the same old thing over and over again.

[overtherainbow]

Anyway.. about the storyline: I want Chill of course, like everyone else. But I'm just glad they're doing a storyline in the first place! I'm also glad they're going with Will since he's the most realistic option out of the guys turning out gay. Also, I think Will and this Ryan guy can be good. The best option would be Chad for Will's love interest, but maybe they are going to do a love triangle thing? Who knows.. I think the writers have something up their sleeves. And I hope that they are going to play off their chemistry even if Chad doesn't end up gay. For example let Will for for Chad, try to kiss him, but Chad not wanting to kiss him back and that leads to lots of drama and eventually Will finding out he's gay but then maybe Chad will say he's straight, and he still cares about Will, but only as a friend. I think that would be a realistic way to play out the storyline. And then when he realizes he's gay, then they can bring in Ryan!

[md1347]

Apr 2, 2011 0:29:23 GMT -5 josean06 said:

Daytime has always been a conservative time slot for any show. Regardless of the network, it depends on the viewers overall opinion to see if a character or couple is successful.

Which makes me laugh. Soaps by nature are anything but conservative and I don't understand why women (and men) who claim to be conservative watch all the filth that soaps contain.

Messaged with one woman on ABC forum who hated Kish because of religious reasons. She hated the gay storyline but didn't have an issue with Mitch trying to rape his own daughter so he could have an heir for his cult. But boy, she didn't want want Sierra to end up with her gay father. I tired to point out the hypocrisy of it all but she didn't see it. ROFL.

[devillies]

I used to watch DOOL it was my fav soap , im really happy they are doing a gay stoyline especially with Will. I hope they dont mess it up like the other soaps

[devillies]

Apr 2, 2011 11:19:11 GMT -5 md1347 said:

Apr 2, 2011 0:29:23 GMT -5 josean06 said:

Daytime has always been a conservative time slot for any show. Regardless of the network, it depends on the viewers overall opinion to see if a character or couple is successful.

Which makes me laugh. Soaps by nature are anything but conservative and I don't understand why women (and men) who claim to be conservative watch all the filth that soaps contain.

Messaged with one woman on ABC forum who hated Kish because of religious reasons. She hated the gay storyline but didn't have an issue with Mitch trying to rape his own daughter so he could have an heir for his cult. But boy, she didn't want want Sierra to end up with her gay father. I tired to point out the hypocrisy of it all but she didn't see it. ROFL.

lol i totally agree

[blake]

I keep reading where alot of people are saying as Chandler on his Twitter account if this true or not.Ok here's the deal Chandler can't say a word under his contract confidentiality yes I'm sure he would love to say something but if he did they could do one of two things.One fire him or two ax the storyline all together like my mama always says good things come to people who wait.

[mtnviewboy]

I don't watch DOOL, so I really don't know the background of the viewers of the show. But DOOL, on NBC, is shown prior to Nate Berkus show and Ellen (at least at my area SFBA). Do you think that the viewer group is slightly less conservative than the average?

I am holding a wait-and-see attitude on this. Maybe the producers and writers have learned a few things from the past experience in OLTL, AWT, Y & R, etc.

[blake]

I just noticed but if Dylan would have stayed on as Will I don't think he could pull it off (that's what I think personally).Chandler has a much more of a muscle body then Dylan had yeah Dylan was taller and lean.But Chandler have you seen him with his shirt off!!!! ;)Good Lord Above so in the looks department Chandler wins in my opinion!!!

[josean06]

Apr 2, 2011 11:19:11 GMT -5 md1347 said:

Apr 2, 2011 0:29:23 GMT -5 josean06 said:

Daytime has always been a conservative time slot for any show. Regardless of the network, it depends on the viewers overall opinion to see if a character or couple is successful.

Which makes me laugh. Soaps by nature are anything but conservative and I don't understand why women (and men) who claim to be conservative watch all the filth that soaps contain.

Messaged with one woman on ABC forum who hated Kish because of religious reasons. She hated the gay storyline but didn't have an issue with Mitch trying to rape his own daughter so he could have an heir for his cult. But boy, she didn't want want Sierra to end up with her gay father. I tired to point out the hypocrisy of it all but she didn't see it. ROFL.

Tell me about it! The way people don't get worked up about a raping or an incest story, but if two guys kiss, it's the apocalypse of daytime tv!! People are only conservative when it comes to same-sex couples. They need to get over themselves.

blake: Chandler is way super hot! When I saw his profile picture from the Days website, it doesn't do him justice (which is why I think they used a sweater to cover those arms), he's huge! Chill gives off a Nuke vibe with the blonde, brunette, and one whose a lot taller than the other. I don't think I would've wanted Dylan to play gay, he came off to me as boring. I also don't think he could pull it off.

[blake]

BREAKING NEWS!!!!

Chandler Massey has confirmed that Days will do a gay storyline here's a video!!!

www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKrSz1obZ3I

[justinate]

YES!!!

He only confirms that there will be a gay storyline "this summer" (previously it was speculated the story would start airing at the end of May, not sure if this constitutes summer? Or does it mean it will start a bit later?). He doesn't say if it is his character or not, but hopefully it is.

A celebratory vid: www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFEXS2Ycrrg

Those of you lusting after Chandler above (heck, that includes me) will be pleased that this includes him shirtless. You'd probably also want to keep an eye out for that movie he mentions after the Days talk, 16-Love. His co-star said her highlight of shooting the movie was seeing Chandler with his shirt off, LOL.