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Post by thesunu79 on May 24, 2011 15:19:18 GMT -5
Yay!! May thank you sooo much!
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Post by fillelina on May 24, 2011 15:33:43 GMT -5
WOW what an episode!! I loved it! Thanks MM!
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Post by Difficult Diva on May 24, 2011 15:36:39 GMT -5
Thank you, MM for the video.
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Post by Trish on May 24, 2011 15:38:56 GMT -5
Thanks MM. What a great eppy. Christian still tears my heart out at the end.
Neither one of them could deny that they loved each other when Charlie said it, or that they didn't want to end up alone. Loved the song when they were covering each other with the blanket. Charlie's remarks at the end, reinforces that they are still in love and just don't know how to get back to each other. She's wise, but I say again, she's got terrible timing, because they thing they were going to make some headway when she came walking in.
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Post by lily90 on May 24, 2011 15:40:55 GMT -5
I agree mitsaso and here in Italy we've got the same saying! I had no clue that someone thought something like that of thore, or better, christian...it's his way of being, he'd never hurt anyone, olli in primis! it's true that he can be scary sometimes, but just when he's fighting for things important to him...it's a part of his character that I don't dislike at all... this is not about Christian's character, but about the balance in Thore's acting ...just MO for you ist something enough and good.... but for me is the same thing too much and creepy I get what you say and of course it's just something personal! one may like it or not it surprised me because I never thought about it, that's all! thanks MM for the video! I'm almost scared to go and find out all the things they were saying to each other...
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Post by gabyta07 on May 24, 2011 15:42:04 GMT -5
Thanks May, so heartbreaking, I wanted to cry again
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Post by lolaruns on May 24, 2011 15:42:07 GMT -5
I agree, it was a good episode. Loved Olli's blue shirt. Would have liked a bit more talking. In a weird way the whole appartment looked good on them. I wouldn't mind them moving there eventually instead of the flatshare. The only thing that was weird in this episode was how they mixed the Charlie voice over with the Ludwig voice over
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Post by Trish on May 24, 2011 15:43:27 GMT -5
this is not about Christian's character, but about the balance in Thore's acting ...just MO for you ist something enough and good.... but for me is the same thing too much and creepy I get what you say and of course it's just something personal! one may like it or not it surprised me because I never thought about it, that's all! thanks MM for the video! I'm almost scared to go and find out all the things they were saying to each other... They didn't say anything they haven't said before. Until the next morning, when things seems like they might have calmed down a bit.
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Post by bkoz on May 24, 2011 16:58:09 GMT -5
Thanks MM for the vid and subs.
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Post by mandalai on May 24, 2011 16:58:33 GMT -5
Ok, it's official... I'm a silly, oldfashioned, romantic woman and the eppy broke my heart.. I rewatched it again... I expressed in my previous post what I felt watching the original version in German and I can only confirm that ... better I said before my opinion because now I can't ... I'm crying again ... Chrolli forever... thanks May with all my heart
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2011 17:00:38 GMT -5
Wow! Standing ovation for Thore and Jo! Let me start by saying that personally it takes a lot of great acting and emotion during a scene to make me wanna cry. But this episode had it all. I want to go back to a past post I had So as you can tell I'm very pleased with the song that was played in the Chrolli scenes today, it has a great meaning to what our boys are feeling. And I know everyone has already said it, but I just want to add my two cents. Christian's scream at the end was so heartbreaking . There has only been 3 times that I have seen him this sincere with his emotions. (First, when he confessed his love to Olli, when Olli was in the hospital and when Gregor was in the hospital). The last scene is going to be part of my golden Chrolli moments collection I think the whole episode shows us more of Christian's POV actually. When he tried to start a conversation before going to fried some eggs (I found that one awesome, because I love fried eggs! ;D), when he said he was going to sleep, when he got out of the bathroom, his sincere need of wanting to caress Olli but rather containing himself and not doing it . When he offered the coffee and asking the critical question.."Do you think we still have a chance?" and finally, that emotional scream! The switching blanket scene was so cute and natural. It just reenforces the love that Christian and Olli have for each other. One is not less protective than the other. They represent the other half for each other (whether some like it or not! ) The love still there and even when in certain relationships "love is not enough" in this one specifically "Love can conquer all!" When I started watching their story what moved me was the fact that it was such a natural love, such a real and strong love. I now, 3 years later I can still see it! For me Chrolli, represents more than just a gay couple or simply a couple, they represent true love (as cliche as that sounds ) they make me believe that this true love really exists. That it doesn't matter who you find it with, you will find it nevertheless I wan to specially thank Nanna (for introducing me with this great love story), Joanna, for always giving us the latest caps or summaries, anything, Joanna is there! , to MercuryMay that has taken on the responsibility of keeping the Chrolli Love Story alive! Thank you May!, to Lugia for providing translations and answers to things we don't know. This people deserve heaven seriously, because without expecting anything in return, they use their time to share with us this wonderful story, that even with the bumps right now, I'm still here watching and believing that Chrolli will make it out of this! and also thank you all for being the support whenever one of us feels that it's all over, because at the end of the day we are united by the same love for Chrolli! Thore and Jo, thank you as well, for not only bringing both characters to life, but also for still giving them that essence and touch that made us fall in love with them! sorry for the long post everyone, but this is one of the few episodes where I love to speak my heart out (while having the tears coming down my face some of them from sadness but most of them from happiness ;D) So, Long Live Chrolli! <3
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Post by candyflossuk on May 24, 2011 17:01:11 GMT -5
I agree, it was a good episode. Loved Olli's blue shirt. Would have liked a bit more talking. In a weird way the whole appartment looked good on them. I wouldn't mind them moving there eventually instead of the flatshare. The only thing that was weird in this episode was how they mixed the Charlie voice over with the Ludwig voice over Agreed Lola! I would have loved more dialogue. The whole blanket covering was very cute but it was the best oppotunity they had to talk without one of them storming off (ok so it's mainly just Oli that does that! ). Also it was nice to finally see some emotion from Christian. I'm glad the writers decided to show that he was suffering too because in previous episodes, it's mostly been focussed on Oli's pain. However there is something that has been annoying me for a while now and has never really been addressed. When Oli and Christian are locked in and are talking about how they have different life plans because Oli wants kids and Christian does not, Christian's goes on to say that it became all about what Oli wants (a child) and no longer about them as a couple. This seemed like the perfect opportunity for Oli to mention the fact that it was Christian who wanted a child first. He was the one who came back from Gregor's with the idea of starting a family with Oli. Before that, having children together hadn't really been discussed between them. Then after losing Lily, Christian does a complete u-turn on the idea and decides he doesn't want children any more. And Oli is just supossed to accept this with no argument. So, when Christian is acussing Oli of being selfish in his desire to have a child despite knowing that Christian doesn't want one, couldn't Oli acusse Christian of the same thing because of his desire not to have children despite knowing that Oli wants one?! I think they are both equally selfish in this regard and I'm surprised Oli didn't point that out. It annoys me how Oli was constantly having to justify his reasons for wanting a family while Christian never even acknowledges that he wanted the same thing himself not long ago.
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Post by gabyta07 on May 24, 2011 17:02:15 GMT -5
Ok, it's official... I'm a silly, oldfashioned, romantic woman and the eppy broke my heart.. I rewatched it again... I expressed in my previous post what I felt watching the original version in German and I can only confirm that ... better I said before my opinion because now I can't ... I'm crying again ... Chrolli forever... thanks May with all my heart HUGS; HUGS; HUGS; Mandalai I also re-watched like two times, it broke my heart. Specially Christian, not only he yells, he cries too, like we have never seen him cry. Too heartbreaking, happy ending please, we need it NOW.
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Post by mandalai on May 24, 2011 17:07:19 GMT -5
Ok, it's official... I'm a silly, oldfashioned, romantic woman and the eppy broke my heart.. I rewatched it again... I expressed in my previous post what I felt watching the original version in German and I can only confirm that ... better I said before my opinion because now I can't ... I'm crying again ... Chrolli forever... thanks May with all my heart HUGS; HUGS; HUGS; Mandalai I also re-watched like two times, it broke my heart. Specially Christian, not only he yells, he cries too, like we have never seen him cry. Too heartbreaking, happy ending please, we need it NOW. thanks gaby thanks a lot and yeah... Christian yelling and crying was heartbreaking...
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Post by mandalai on May 24, 2011 17:11:21 GMT -5
Wow! Standing ovation for Thore and Jo! Let me start by saying that personally it takes a lot of great acting and emotion during a scene to make me wanna cry. But this episode had it all. I want to go back to a past post I had So as you can tell I'm very pleased with the song that was played in the Chrolli scenes today, it has a great meaning to what our boys are feeling. And I know everyone has already said it, but I just want to add my two cents. Christian's scream at the end was so heartbreaking . There has only been 3 times that I have seen him this sincere with his emotions. (First, when he confessed his love to Olli, when Olli was in the hospital and when Gregor was in the hospital). The last scene is going to be part of my golden Chrolli moments collection I think the whole episode shows us more of Christian's POV actually. When he tried to start a conversation before going to fried some eggs (I found that one awesome, because I love fried eggs! ;D), when he said he was going to sleep, when he got out of the bathroom, his sincere need of wanting to caress Olli but rather containing himself and not doing it . When he offered the coffee and asking the critical question.."Do you think we still have a chance?" and finally, that emotional scream! The switching blanket scene was so cute and natural. It just reenforces the love that Christian and Olli have for each other. One is not less protective than the other. They represent the other half for each other (whether some like it or not! ) The love still there and even when in certain relationships "love is not enough" in this one specifically "Love can conquer all!" When I started watching their story what moved me was the fact that it was such a natural love, such a real and strong love. I now, 3 years later I can still see it! For me Chrolli, represents more than just a gay couple or simply a couple, they represent true love (as cliche as that sounds ) they make me believe that this true love really exists. That it doesn't matter who you find it with, you will find it nevertheless I wan to specially thank Nanna (for introducing me with this great love story), Joanna, for always giving us the latest caps or summaries, anything, Joanna is there! , to MercuryMay that has taken on the responsibility of keeping the Chrolli Love Story alive! Thank you May!, to Lugia for providing translations and answers to things we don't know. This people deserve heaven seriously, because without expecting anything in return, they use their time to share with us this wonderful story, that even with the bumps right now, I'm still here watching and believing that Chrolli will make it out of this! and also thank you all for being the support whenever one of us feels that it's all over, because at the end of the day we are united by the same love for Chrolli! Thore and Jo, thank you as well, for not only bringing both characters to life, but also for still giving them that essence and touch that made us fall in love with them! sorry for the long post everyone, but this is one of the few episodes where I love to speak my heart out (while having the tears coming down my face some of them from sadness but most of them from happiness ;D) So, Long Live Chrolli! <3 your post is great and gave me a very big emotion. I totally agree with you. Thanks.
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Post by joanna on May 24, 2011 17:17:01 GMT -5
Thanks so much for the video, MM.x Going through all of THAT frame by frame for my caps...which also inevitably, going quickly backwards/forwards to particular bits, means having to watch/listen to it a fair few more times, too...was, er, let's say, 'not very pleasant'......Jo and Thore were excellent today...And just to pinpoint one moment...one moment of, in my opinion, PERFECT acting...When Olli/Jo gave Anna(sp?!) that pleading look, at 20 mins 30 secs in (mediathek copy), because he needed to go partying so he didn't completely fall part...Yep, PERFECT acting from Jo in that moment. Anyway, sorry these are so late, folks....Lots to caps, lots to delay, etc... My set of caps, as enlargeable thumbnails, is now up in the thread opener[/url]... ... CLICK THE BELOW PIC to view all of my caps in their original size...
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Post by gabyta07 on May 24, 2011 17:20:50 GMT -5
I agree, it was a good episode. Loved Olli's blue shirt. Would have liked a bit more talking. In a weird way the whole appartment looked good on them. I wouldn't mind them moving there eventually instead of the flatshare. The only thing that was weird in this episode was how they mixed the Charlie voice over with the Ludwig voice over Agreed Lola! I would have loved more dialogue. The whole blanket covering was very cute but it was the best oppotunity they had to talk without one of them storming off (ok so it's mainly just Oli that does that! ). Also it was nice to finally see some emotion from Christian. I'm glad the writers decided to show that he was suffering too because in previous episodes, it's mostly been focussed on Oli's pain. However there is something that has been annoying me for a while now and has never really been addressed. When Oli and Christian are locked in and are talking about how they have different life plans because Oli wants kids and Christian does not, Christian's goes on to say that it became all about what Oli wants (a child) and no longer about them as a couple. This seemed like the perfect opportunity for Oli to mention the fact that it was Christian who wanted a child first. He was the one who came back from Gregor's with the idea of starting a family with Oli. Before that, having children together hadn't really been discussed between them. Then after losing Lily, Christian does a complete u-turn on the idea and decides he doesn't want children any more. And Oli is just supossed to accept this with no argument. So, when Christian is acussing Oli of being selfish in his desire to have a child despite knowing that Christian doesn't want one, couldn't Oli acusse Christian of the same thing because of his desire not to have children despite knowing that Oli wants one?! I think they are both equally selfish in this regard and I'm surprised Oli didn't point that out. It annoys me how Oli was constantly having to justify his reasons for wanting a family while Christian never even acknowledges that he wanted the same thing himself not long ago. BC Olli knows its not about Christian not wanting a baby, its about Christian not wanting to be a foster parent. Christian doesnt want to suffer, and Olli doesnt care abt suffering (his own) , he wants a family even if its only for a little while has anyone resolved the mistery why, Olli lied to Christian, saying Chrisitan was the one who needed time apart???
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Post by lily90 on May 24, 2011 17:23:37 GMT -5
thank you very much joanna it must be all but a pleasure lately for you, so it's very appreciated! I have to say that the picture you chose to enlarge scares me a little..! ;D I noticed that particular moment of Jo, too and it gave me that same impression...
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2011 17:24:25 GMT -5
Thanks so much for the video, MM.x Going through all of THAT frame by frame for my caps...which also inevitably, going quickly backwards/forwards to particular bits, means having to watch/listen to it a fair few more times, too...was, er, let's say, 'not very pleasant'......Jo and Thore were excellent today...And just to pinpoint one moment... one moment of, in my opinion, PERFECT acting...When Olli/Jo gave Anna(sp?!) that pleading look, at 20 mins 30 secs in (mediathek copy), because he needed to go partying so he didn't completely fall part...Yep, PERFECT acting from Jo in that moment. I have also noticed this moment...really PERFECT acting !! and Thanks for the caps
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2011 17:25:34 GMT -5
Thanks so much for the video, MM.x Going through all of THAT frame by frame for my caps...which also inevitably, going quickly backwards/forwards to particular bits, means having to watch/listen to it a fair few more times, too...was, er, let's say, 'not very pleasant'......Jo and Thore were excellent today...And just to pinpoint one moment...one moment of, in my opinion, PERFECT acting...When Olli/Jo gave Anna(sp?!) that pleading look, at 20 mins 30 secs in (mediathek copy), because he needed to go partying so he didn't completely fall part...Yep, PERFECT acting from Jo in that moment. Anyway, sorry these are so late, folks....Lots to caps, lots to delay, etc... My set of caps, as enlargeable thumbnails, is now up in the thread opener[/url]... ... CLICK THE BELOW PIC to view the all of my caps in their original size...[/quote] This is the insane "scary" or "creepy" side of Christian that everyone was talking about! All I can say is that if I was in his shoes, either I would control my emotions, or my emotions would control me. Thank you Joanna!
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Post by bkoz on May 24, 2011 17:29:22 GMT -5
Thanks Joanna.
Man just saw the epi and you guys were right, it was so good. Charlie should have locked them in there for a week, ( they had everything they needed ), cause I think by morning they would have talked more, if Charlie and Rebecca hadn't walked in. Christian and Olli can say all the hurtful words to each other all they want, but to me they still love each other. Christian at the end broke my heart. Like everybody said it was heartbreaking. Thore and Jo really did an excellent job.
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Post by mandalai on May 24, 2011 17:30:17 GMT -5
thanks joanna... preciuos as always
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Post by bkoz on May 24, 2011 17:33:53 GMT -5
has anyone resolved the mistery why, Olli lied to Christian, saying Chrisitan was the one who needed time apart???
Gabyta07 I think Olli meant that Christian started the whole "break" thing, by hooking up with Jessica. So by Christian hooking up with Jessica meant to Olli that Christian started the whole "break" thing by that. Or the writters needed to write that line more clearler.
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Post by dalphine on May 24, 2011 17:40:37 GMT -5
Joanna... thank you so much for the caps. I'm so in a good mood because of todays espoide that I'm going to write VL and let them know how good it was.
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Post by blondeninjagirl on May 24, 2011 17:40:38 GMT -5
At around 6:30 I thought Olli would say "I'm really a werewolf Christian" Ok, too much vampire diaries ;D Thank you MercuryMay!
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