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Post by mariesun on May 24, 2011 12:39:20 GMT -5
Yes, for someone who hardly understood the words, Thore's face and body told it all. Jo was terrific too, of course, but Thore was just -- wow! I think Thore is great in such kind of scenes Jo is great in the sad scenes and he really knows how to cry
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Post by dalphine on May 24, 2011 12:44:09 GMT -5
The show was just great I didn't understand a word that was said, but it still was a great espiode. Jo and Thore was great. I have to admit I cried a little.
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Post by matte on May 24, 2011 12:48:36 GMT -5
wow. great sow this evening... very sad, totally desparate...
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Post by katiem26 on May 24, 2011 13:00:31 GMT -5
Just managed to watch this episode and loved it. I think its the first time ive been actually drawn into this storyline and believed what was happening between them. So much anger but also so much love. Neither being able to find away to bridge the gap between them. Wow Thore at the end that scream sheer frustration. If they continue to act like this my heart will be broken once and for all.
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Post by mandalai on May 24, 2011 13:01:40 GMT -5
Just watched the episode... even if I couldn't understand a word I realised it was a great episode. Christian yelling at the end broke my heart, I think only a blind could think Christian wasn't suffering for the separation. He was and IS devastated and maybe now he can't manage that anymore, he isn't able to control his feeling... I know he did a very big mistake staying at the party that horrible night, and I know he didn't understand immediately the gravity of the situation, then he believed Olli wanted a little space and tried to be ok with that. But now folks, he is aware about all the mess his relationship has become so he can't hide anymore his pain and the final yell was full of desperation... Charlie's idea was good because she loves guys and wants them together... but, unfortunately it didn't work ... btw, we have seen love is still there... christian covering olli, desiring to touch him so much is the sign of the intensity he miss with his man... and olli covering christian is a man who has built a wall because he's scared to be hurt again but, you know, they are the most important person in their lives and they miss each other despite the rude mask they are wearing..... My eyes are full of tears in this moment, it's hard to write in another language when you are so upset, so please forgive my bad english...
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Post by dalphine on May 24, 2011 13:11:43 GMT -5
Mandalai, what you wrote was just great and you summed up it so nicely, it was a great espoide. I had to go watch it again even thou I didn't understand a word said.
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Post by SF on May 24, 2011 13:22:14 GMT -5
hmm..
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2011 13:26:35 GMT -5
Comment of the week, I'd say ;D ;D
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Post by mitsaso on May 24, 2011 13:35:34 GMT -5
^^ is it me or SF might now stand for SatisFied?? ;D (PS: I always forget to reccomend you on your choice of avatar... I love Lee Pace and I adore The Fall to pieces! I own the DVD) I must admit it looked like a great episode, although that close up at Christian yelling (not the heartbreaking scream at the end) was downright scary! If I was watching it on 3D I would have peed my pants He doesn't look like a cute puppy anymore when he yells...!!! If I was Charlie, I would just unlock the door in the morning and then run away for the whole day. Olli looked like he would totally bitchslap her at the end! Also, LOL at the Olli/Anna scene!!! Is it me or is Olli pulling a Gregor now?
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Post by hazzer on May 24, 2011 13:49:11 GMT -5
well i loved it!!!! when their in the same room together and they let their barriers down you can tell they love eachother so much!!!! super süß!!!!
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Post by AndreB on May 24, 2011 14:26:10 GMT -5
I must admit it looked like a great episode, although that close up at Christian yelling (not the heartbreaking scream at the end) was downright scary! If I was watching it on 3D I would have peed my pants He doesn't look like a cute puppy anymore when he yells...!!! As much I've read, is this one of the things that has scared away many German fans from this couple. Thore is playing those agression-yelling scenes with Jo very strongly, so it steps over the line between "reasonably concerned" and "creepy". When Thore was younger and not so experienced as an actor then it was not so disturbing, but at some point it crossed the line for many people.
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Post by mitsaso on May 24, 2011 14:31:46 GMT -5
I must admit it looked like a great episode, although that close up at Christian yelling (not the heartbreaking scream at the end) was downright scary! If I was watching it on 3D I would have peed my pants He doesn't look like a cute puppy anymore when he yells...!!! As much I've read, is this one of the things that has scared away many German fans from this couple. Thore is playing those agression-yelling scenes with Jo very strongly, so it steps over the line between "reasonably concerned" and "creepy". When Thore was younger and not so experienced as an actor then it was not so disturbing, but at some point it crossed the line for many people. Well, in Greece we have a saying that goes something like this: "A dog that barks, does not bite." It's not like Christian is abusive, and we all know his explosive temper is the little extra something that makes him who he is. Otherwise he'd be too perfect.
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Post by jani on May 24, 2011 14:41:36 GMT -5
As much I've read, is this one of the things that has scared away many German fans from this couple. Thore is playing those agression-yelling scenes with Jo very strongly, so it steps over the line between "reasonably concerned" and "creepy". When Thore was younger and not so experienced as an actor then it was not so disturbing, but at some point it crossed the line for many people. this is my problem with Thore's acting in the fights-scenes with Olli/Jo his outbursts of anger are often a bit exaggerated IMO ( for example the ep. with Lilly's allergic reaction - that was so awful and for me tooooooooo much ) But in today's episode this didn't bother me at all, I think he was great today, and Jo as well I liked the whole episode , quite good script, good screen time ....really good
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Post by AndreB on May 24, 2011 14:43:31 GMT -5
Well, in Greece we have a saying that goes something like this:"A dog that barks, does not bite." It's not like Christian is abusive, and we all know his explosive temper is the little extra something that makes him who he is. Otherwise he'd be too perfect. Negative character traits are of course necessary, but as an actor you have to find the balance, what is acceptable in a love-story and what not. It's just downright weird when Christian is interacting with his lover like he did with Axel or Rob, there is hard to see a difference between those scenes. Recently there was also a weird scene with Dana in the kitchen, where Christian switched into the same mood, which didn't looked appropriate. I hope that I managed to express myself better now....
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Post by lily90 on May 24, 2011 14:44:10 GMT -5
I agree mitsaso and here in Italy we've got the same saying! I had no clue that someone thought something like that of thore, or better, christian...it's his way of being, he'd never hurt anyone, olli in primis! it's true that he can be scary sometimes, but just when he's fighting for things important to him...it's a part of his character that I don't dislike at all...
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Post by jani on May 24, 2011 14:57:27 GMT -5
I agree mitsaso and here in Italy we've got the same saying! I had no clue that someone thought something like that of thore, or better, christian...it's his way of being, he'd never hurt anyone, olli in primis! it's true that he can be scary sometimes, but just when he's fighting for things important to him...it's a part of his character that I don't dislike at all... this is not about Christian's character, but about the balance in Thore's acting ...just MO for you ist something enough and good.... but for me is the same thing too much and creepy
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Post by valso on May 24, 2011 14:58:21 GMT -5
Well, in Greece we have a saying that goes something like this: "A dog that barks, does not bite." It's not like Christian is abusive, and we all know his explosive temper is the little extra something that makes him who he is. Otherwise he'd be too perfect. In Italy the saying you quoted is exactly the same "can che abbaia non morde". I love temperamental Christian and the thought that he may harm Olli didn't ever cross my mind!
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Post by thesunu79 on May 24, 2011 15:01:14 GMT -5
As much I've read, is this one of the things that has scared away many German fans from this couple. Thore is playing those agression-yelling scenes with Jo very strongly, so it steps over the line between "reasonably concerned" and "creepy". When Thore was younger and not so experienced as an actor then it was not so disturbing, but at some point it crossed the line for many people. this is my problem with Thore's acting in the fights-scenes with Olli/Jo his outbursts of anger are often a bit exaggerated IMO ( for example the ep. with Lilly's allergic reaction - that was so awful and for me tooooooooo much ) But in today's episode this didn't bother me at all, I think he was great today, and Jo as well I liked the whole episode , quite good script, good screen time ....really good I think this was the key to today's episode success - we actually saw VL devote some decent screen time to Chrolli's story. Often we see episodes with very little Chrolli content, even when the main theme is supposed to be about their SL.. it has been so frustrating to watch Today's ep was a pleasure to see.. even with all the heartache.. this is because Thore & Jo FINALLY had the chance to play out their scenes and were given decent scripts to work with. I'm impressed anyway!
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Post by gabyta07 on May 24, 2011 15:02:11 GMT -5
Well, in Greece we have a saying that goes something like this: "A dog that barks, does not bite." It's not like Christian is abusive, and we all know his explosive temper is the little extra something that makes him who he is. Otherwise he'd be too perfect. In Italy the saying you quoted is exactly the same "can che abbaia non morde". I love temperamental Christian and the thought that he may harm Olli didn't ever cross my mind! We also have the same phrase in spanish "Perro que ladra no muerde" So if we have three different languages that use it, then it must be true
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Post by mitsaso on May 24, 2011 15:06:09 GMT -5
In Italy the saying you quoted is exactly the same "can che abbaia non morde". I love temperamental Christian and the thought that he may harm Olli didn't ever cross my mind! We also have the same phrase in spanish "Perro que ladra no muerde" So if we have three different languages that use it, then it must be true Must be another one of those greek phrases that the latin language stole!!! C'mon, let's fight over it! lol
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Post by valso on May 24, 2011 15:09:10 GMT -5
Oh yes Mitsaso, let's fight! Bring it on!! ;D LoL
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Post by Tagro on May 24, 2011 15:11:22 GMT -5
In Italy the saying you quoted is exactly the same "can che abbaia non morde". I love temperamental Christian and the thought that he may harm Olli didn't ever cross my mind! We also have the same phrase in spanish "Perro que ladra no muerde" So if we have three different languages that use it, then it must be true At least four languages... It exists in German as well. I just loved today's episode despite the heart-wrenching moments. Or just because of them...
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Post by MercuryMay on May 24, 2011 15:14:23 GMT -5
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Post by maya on May 24, 2011 15:16:22 GMT -5
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Post by valso on May 24, 2011 15:18:17 GMT -5
Thanks a lot Mercury!! And thank you in advance Joanna for the caps!
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