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Post by pemberley187 on Apr 11, 2011 12:35:35 GMT -5
Haven't read the other comments just wanted to put my initial thoughts down without getting influenced by anyone else. Just finished watching the episode with no subs this was just what I thought we would get. I found it funny and loved Andi and Christian trying to find out what had happened and the two of them 'interviewing' Jessica even enjoyed the scenes with Jessica she pretty much played it as I thought she would.
I still love my boy Christian he has made a huge mistake but I am not going to write him off because of it. Olli on his own at the cabin was not a poignant for me as it should have been I felt like they killed the cabin for me last week. Instead I loved his face when he first saw the boys in the morning and I liked his reaction to the news.
Also a special mention to Frau Leniz for laughing at Jessica when she got told off by her uncle. Overall I enjoyed it and it ties in well with Thore's comment at GOOL that he liked playing guilty Christian.
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Post by katiem26 on Apr 11, 2011 12:38:20 GMT -5
That was a very strange episode. The whole thing was acted like a comedy except for the last scenes with Chrolli and Helandi. I expected to feel bad because of the many Christian/Jessica flashback scenes but strangely I felt nothing. Maybe because it was such incredibly bad acting from both Thore and Jana. (I´m sorry to say that but that´s just how I saw it. They should never act together again ) As for the question if they had sex or not: I really don´t know. Chrsitian still doesn´t remember it at the end. Jessica´s evil smile when she realized they don´t remember could speak against it. I wonder if we ever find out. I found some of this funny because it was sooooo over the top. Im still not convinced about who slept with who as Jessicas smile when she realised they didnt remember was so 'I'll make the most of this opportunity'. Poor Ollie. That scene at the cabin was so emotive and heart breaking the only part of the whole episode that made sense. Do we actually know what Christian owned up to?
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Post by maya on Apr 11, 2011 12:41:48 GMT -5
I think the most "victory" like thing was that they never showed any kissing. that's the only good news of the day
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Post by mitsaso on Apr 11, 2011 12:42:25 GMT -5
LOLOL what a dumb yet deeply funny episode!! Okay, let's face it, Andi and Christian come off as douchebags in the flashbacks. But did Christian cheat? Absolutely not. And watching a woman strip in a stag party and comment on her is not a betrayal to Olli by any meaning of the word. Not to mention that Christian kept slipping into "Thore mode" during those scenes, especially in the stripping scene... he all but said "look how hot my girlfriend is! And I'm tapping that!! *fist bump*"! As for the photo... it's obvious that Christian was already asleep when it was taken... that poor woman is struggling to keep him balanced on her chest..!!! lolol Just calm down Chrolli Paranoia Club, especially you, my pretty chrolliforever! You don't want to say something you might regret later, when the truth comes out!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2011 12:48:54 GMT -5
Just calm down Chrolli Paranoia Club, especially you, my pretty chrolliforever! You don't want to say something you might regret later, when the truth comes out! I would just like to add that even though it was a very awful episode, so I'm still sure that Chris didn't cheat on Olli !!!! lola77- the Queen of the "Paranoia" club
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Post by ari on Apr 11, 2011 12:49:36 GMT -5
After watching the episode, I get the feeling she didn't have sex with either one. Andi and Christian's flashbacks showed that their actions could have led to sex, but it's highly doubtful and circumstantial.
Yes they flirted with her and hugged her, and maybe touched (and kissed?) certain body parts, and Christian's belt was off, big deal, but I think that's all. They did some questionable things for two guys in committed relationships, but nothing so bad as having sex with her. IMO
Jessica is a shrew, of course she'd make them think either or both of them had sex with her. That's who she is. And Christian telling Oliver before he knows for sure, makes me believe more strongly that nothing happened. He "jumped the gun" but Oliver deserved to know something.
This incident will probably begin the process of Chrolli coming to a realization of who they are and where the relationship truly stands. For the first time in a long time, I liked how Chrolli was treated on the show. The pacing didn't seem rushed. And the ending with Oliver was really great.
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Post by dalphine on Apr 11, 2011 12:50:58 GMT -5
I just watched the esp. online and I'm sorry, but I didn't think it was as bad as it was said to be. I found Andi and Christian funny. My heart aches for Olli, I just wanted to hug him.
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Post by Trish on Apr 11, 2011 12:55:25 GMT -5
LOLOL what a dumb yet deeply funny episode!! Okay, let's face it, Andi and Christian come off as douchebags in the flashbacks. But did Christian cheat? Absolutely not. And watching a woman strip in a stag party and comment on her is not a betrayal to Olli by any meaning of the word. Not to mention that Christian kept slipping into "Thore mode" during those scenes, especially in the stripping scene... he all but said "look how hot my girlfriend is! And I'm tapping that!! *fist bump*"! As for the photo... it's obvious that Christian was already asleep when it was taken... that poor woman is struggling to keep him balanced on her chest..!!! lolol Just calm down Chrolli Paranoia Club, especially you, my pretty chrolliforever! You don't want to say something you might regret later, when the truth comes out! Thank you so much. You are one of the few people that is see this as what it was a set up. The shot of her prepping Andi for the picture made that more than obvious. Chrisitan and Andi shouldn't have let themselves get in this situation, but people realize that all the evidence is purely circumstantial. I agree with you also, that the Jann/Thore stuff was hard to watch. Kind of felt like the other actors should leave the room, so they could get busy. She was obviously stirpping for him and probalby repeated it later that day. I hope there won't be anymore scenes like that wtih the two of them, because it was way too ackward.
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Post by fillelina on Apr 11, 2011 12:55:39 GMT -5
Not to mention that Christian kept slipping into "Thore mode" during those scenes, especially in the stripping scene... he all but said "look how hot my girlfriend is! And I'm tapping that!! *fist bump*"! In some sense that might be a comforting fact ;D BUT I really would NOT like to think about things like that, yuck! How could they ever thought it would be a good idea to put Thore/Jana into the scene like that? I'm sure many of you disagree with me, but for me it just crossed the line
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Post by Davian on Apr 11, 2011 12:56:23 GMT -5
I too don't believe that Andi and Christian had sex with that bitch Jessica. The whole "comedy", almost Pink Panterish tone makes me feel that nothing really serious has happened. But it was a really idiotic episode nonetheless. Some of the scenes were even hard to watch. Too much information, if you know what I mean... One more thing: why didn't we get to see the scene where Jessica wakes up next to them? There must have been some talking between the three, right?
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Post by katiem26 on Apr 11, 2011 12:56:23 GMT -5
I just watched the esp. online and I'm sorry, but I didn't think it was as bad as it was said to be. I found Andi and Christian funny. My heart aches for Olli, I just wanted to hug him. Definitely not as bad as expected. Most probably because I found the flash backs quite funny. I think Jessica is using the situation to her advantage. Preparing myself for more Ollie heart ache tomorrow but looking forward to some great acting.
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Post by Trish on Apr 11, 2011 12:58:51 GMT -5
Not to mention that Christian kept slipping into "Thore mode" during those scenes, especially in the stripping scene... he all but said "look how hot my girlfriend is! And I'm tapping that!! *fist bump*"! In some sense that might be a comforting fact ;D BUT I really would NOT like to think about things like that, yuck! How could they ever thought it would be a good idea to put Thore/Jana into the scene like that? I'm sure many of you disagree with me, but for me it just crossed the line I don't think they crossed the line, but I don't think it was a good idea. I wouldn't be surprised if they did again. I'm sure after this Chrisitan will avoid Jessica and they won't have scenes together anyone.
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Post by Trish on Apr 11, 2011 13:02:21 GMT -5
I too don't believe that Andi and Christian had sex with that bitch Jessica. The whole "comedy", almost Pink Panterish tone makes me feel that nothing really serious has happened. But it was a really idiotic episode nonetheless. Some of the scenes were even hard to watch. Too much information, if you know what I mean... One more thing: why didn't we get to see the scene where Jessica wakes up next to them? There must have been some talking between the three, right? I think they left her. Christian didn't even to put his shoe all the way on. Otherwise, they would have asked how they got there then and not have to go back to the castle later to talk to her.
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Post by mitsaso on Apr 11, 2011 13:03:34 GMT -5
Not to mention that Christian kept slipping into "Thore mode" during those scenes, especially in the stripping scene... he all but said "look how hot my girlfriend is! And I'm tapping that!! *fist bump*"! In some sense that might be a comforting fact ;D BUT I really would NOT like to think about things like that, yuck! How could they ever thought it would be a good idea to put Thore/Jana into the scene like that? I'm sure many of you disagree with me, but for me it just crossed the line Thank you so much. You are one of the few people that is see this as what it was a set up. The shot of her prepping Andi for the picture made that more than obvious. Chrisitan and Andi shouldn't have let themselves get in this situation, but people realize that all the evidence is purely circumstantial. I agree with you also, that the Jann/Thore stuff was hard to watch. Kind of felt like the other actors should leave the room, so they could get busy. She was obviously stirpping for him and probalby repeated it later that day. I hope there won't be anymore scenes like that wtih the two of them, because it was way too ackward. You know what those striptease scenes reminded me of? Joey from "Friends". Remember that episode where he's in that stage play and has the hots for the actress they have great chemistry together...? Then they become lovers and ALL of their chemistry on stage fizzles out and it becomes awkward? "Friends" dealt with it as a Rule on Acting; if you're banging your co-star, don't expect to have chemistry with them as an on-screen fictional couple. That's Thore and Jana right there! ;D (sorry Thore and Jana, at least you still have each other, though! )
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Post by lolaruns on Apr 11, 2011 13:04:30 GMT -5
No, in the first scene Christian wonders whether they should have woken her up.
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Post by dalphine on Apr 11, 2011 13:05:40 GMT -5
This is just my take on it on. I believe it was made to be played in a funny kind away. I could be wrong JMO.
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Post by mitsaso on Apr 11, 2011 13:08:31 GMT -5
No, in the first scene Christian wonders whether they should have woken her up. LOL they left a naked woman in Olli's workplace? And then they CONTEMPLATED if they were gonna keep it a secret or not? LOLOL what did we expect? Both Christian and Andi are blondes! Also, something I just noticed... WHY does Olli have bordello-style lights and strobes in his family-friendly CAFE-BAR? Did he WANT the stag party to turn into an all-night orgy? Does he HAVE a camera recording the naughty going-ons and sell them on the internet? (that would also show us what really happened). Does the NL turn into a HUGE dark room every Friday after 3.00 in the night???
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Post by Davian on Apr 11, 2011 13:08:56 GMT -5
No, in the first scene Christian wonders whether they should have woken her up. Thanks Twatts and Lola. I only get about half of what's being said. But it makes sense now. mitsaso ;D Willkomen meine Damen und Herren zu No Fuckin' Limits!!
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Post by evajan2 on Apr 11, 2011 13:10:23 GMT -5
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Post by teachgirl on Apr 11, 2011 13:11:01 GMT -5
I started to watch and mediathek and simply couldn't continue -- suppose I'll watch MM's vid later. I don't read spoilers, but I have watched soaps for more years than I'll usually admit to, and I have seen this sort of stuff time and again. Obviously a setup, the truth will come out, etc. Just not sure if I can watch what happens in between.
I had wondered why they were pushing the Christian-Andi friendship so hard over the last few months, and now I know. I hate that he is paired with/paralleled to Andi here.
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Post by fillelina on Apr 11, 2011 13:12:13 GMT -5
Good for you I really should have done the same.
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Post by bel7003 on Apr 11, 2011 13:21:49 GMT -5
LOLOL what did we expect? Both Christian and Andi are blondes! Hey! I resent that!
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Post by evajan2 on Apr 11, 2011 13:23:03 GMT -5
Good for you I really should have done the same. I didn't need to see any embarrassing jesicca to be sure that Christian didn't cheat .... I know it and now I'm just looking forward to the next (sad )episode But i have to add ... Poor, poor, poor Olli and Jo and Thore were great again
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Post by Trish on Apr 11, 2011 13:26:23 GMT -5
I started to watch and mediathek and simply couldn't continue -- suppose I'll watch MM's vid later. I don't read spoilers, but I have watched soaps for more years than I'll usually admit to, and I have seen this sort of stuff time and again. Obviously a setup, the truth will come out, etc. Just not sure if I can watch what happens in between. I had wondered why they were pushing the Christian-Andi friendship so hard over the last few months, and now I know. I hate that he is paired with/paralleled to Andi here. Actually watching it reinforces that nothing happened. So it's not that bad in that sense.
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Post by ncecho on Apr 11, 2011 13:28:02 GMT -5
Forced myself to watch it. Hated it just like I thought I would. But honestly, I saw nothing even in the flashbacks that even suggested anybody had sex with anybody. I saw Jessica taking advantage of their drunken state. Maybe they'll show more flashbacks of that night although I don't think my poor heart could take it. I think one of the reasons Maybe Christian talked to Olli without really remembering is maybe he was afraid of what Jessica would do with the pictures.
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