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Post by riboflavinb2 on Dec 29, 2009 9:34:46 GMT -5
I think people like Robert because it has potential to play out more interesting on screen. As cute as Jo and Thore are... do we really only want to see them happy?? We had like a year of that and I was sooooooo bored. Robert will offer conflict in a way that Rebecca can't. The actor playing Robert has years of acting experience that Miss Jasmine doesn't have. A triangle with Robert will be far more interesting to watch. That doesn't mean Olli has to fall for him. Like Mona suggested, there could be lots of possibilities for things. (Forcing Olli to do his bidding... a la the Legend of Zorro [you know how Zetta-Jones' character broke up with Zorro because she's was under cover?]) People are excited over Robert because it will HOPEFULLY be interesting! So...we don't like or hate Rebecca but there is an exception for this Robert...sorry i don't understand because for me it's the same ! No Christian and Rebecca = No Olli and Robert ! ♥Chrolli♥ or nothing !
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Post by riboflavinb2 on Dec 28, 2009 15:33:41 GMT -5
strawberryking Did you ask Jo's permission to post photos from his personal albums here? If not, I think it's incredible rude to hijack the copyrights of his photos like that. When I see these posted here it makes me feel like a voyeur. Pictures from VL- Xmas-Party 2009:
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Post by riboflavinb2 on Dec 28, 2009 10:55:59 GMT -5
I can probably answer this because I'm pretty tight with the organizers *wink, wink* I believe there are a few people from Europe planning to go...but I'm not 100% sure. SPEAK UP EURO-PEEPS WHO ARE GOING!! As far as "once in a life time" the organizers don't anticipate these same actors being in the same room in America any time soon. I know their hope is to plan more events...but that's contingent upon how well this one goes over. And lastly, why America? Because there are A LOT of American fans who are unable to travel to Europe for the many events Thore, Jo, Igor, Dennis (sp?) are at. It's likely that these guys might be in the same room in Europe... but America? Not so much. Not to mention Hal Sparks and Nick R and everyone else coming. It's just a fact that Europeans have a much higher chance of seeing the AWZ and the VL guys than their North American fans. I know the organizers picked a city that they thought people would enjoy, that the actors would enjoy, and that in and of itself was a big enough draw... in case people wanted to make more than a weekend out of it. There's A LOT to do in NYC. None of the organizers know what the future will bring. They're not sure if they'll ever plan another event like this... but they do know the cost is high and they've done everything they can do to make the cost as affordable as possible given that the event is being held in one of the most expensive cities in the world. lol. I know they think it's worth it and they've put a lot of time and effort into making it happen. (Some of them have lost sleep over it!) I can't tell you if you should go... I can only tell you that if you do go... it should be a good time. Will anyone from Europe be going to the Gays of Our Lives Event? (I know Tom is but so far the rest seem to be from America or nearer the event). I'm toying with the idea of going but it's a hell of a long way to go (for someone who's furthest journey abroad was to Italy) and even though the prices are not as bad as I expected, still a lot of money. Is this truly a "Once in a Lifetime event" or will there be others? And last question, why was America chosen as the place to hold the event? Thanks very much Stef
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Post by riboflavinb2 on Dec 28, 2009 10:14:35 GMT -5
Yes! In fact... there's a general thread about it here: gaydaytime.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=719It's going to be a very fun event! LOTS of people are going! Visitor9627 has been super amazing in spreading the word... I just hope everyone gets to hear about it... because it's going to be one heck of a par-tay... so says Sozement! I'm going. I'm geeked. Check out the thread... lots of people from this great board are going also. Sozment, Zam, (and I forget who else) It's going to be GREAT!
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Post by riboflavinb2 on Dec 24, 2009 10:11:38 GMT -5
For what it's worth... I like everything except Thore's highlights (I wouldn't mind him with a few... but it's like they died his hair blond and his skin tone just doesn't go with it.) I like Thore's new hair style because I pretty much just want to rub my fingers through it. It looks fluffy and soft! "I like fluffy!" (400 cool points if you know where that quote is from.) I like Christian's uber "gay" outfit... because it's a dressy party! Look at Helena! Knockout city that girl. Would he really show up to a fancy party wearing "renovation clothes?" A suit coat would have been good too... but maybe he didn't want to match his boyfriend? Maybe his boyfriend picked out his clothes?? Just saying... it's different and I like it. I like Jo's look too! His short hair would also be fun to rub. I am so firing VL's hair department.. I mean... Jo looks off with a shaved head and Thore looks like a frosted cupcake (I am sure its tasty).. I miss old Ollian... like 2008-Ollian look-wise... This is look is way better:
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Post by riboflavinb2 on Dec 24, 2009 9:32:24 GMT -5
GIRL!! Can't wait to meet you! Did you go VIP? And don't worry... if you pass out... we'll have smelling salts and I know how to call 911. oh my god oh my god oh my god......flipping out b/c i bought my ticket....and i realized...i might not be able to live through meeting thore and jo... i'm so excited!
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Post by riboflavinb2 on Dec 23, 2009 9:04:18 GMT -5
Flo! Really? We're not past this??! I for one am SOOOOO HAPPY TO READ THAT SPOILER! WHY?? WHY??? Let's break it down shall we? The Photo: Time and time and time again the photo is only a brief photo of the emotion on screen and never plays out like it does on the show. Most recent example is "Shirtless Christian" He never touched her without his shirt on in the show... she drolled over him (humorously) but it played out NOTHING like the photo. The Text: DAVID IS JEALOUS!!!!!! This is OBVIOUSLY setting up David/Rebecca. Just because Christian and Rebecca are getting close doesn't mean that Christian a)knows how she fells (I'm betting if he ever does find out David tells him) and b) That Christian will like her! Christian has enough shit going on... with Olli, with Andi, with his Bro (He's going to be an uncle!) He's not going to switch gears and fall for Rebecca. And LET'S NOT FORGET THE HAYSEX!! (Because I KNOW! I K.N.O.W. it's going to be haysex with Olli) We all need to stop fearing the worst every time we see something... they are not going to go down that road. Not now. Not any time soon. R.E.A.L.L.Y!! I'm worried about all those spoilers pics... i'm wondering if Chribecca is going to happen
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Post by riboflavinb2 on Dec 22, 2009 13:45:44 GMT -5
okay i just watched the chribecca scenes from today and i don't know if thore meant to play it that way, but the scene where he was practically *begging* rebecca to come out with him and olli was the first time i saw genuine warmth in his eyes towards her. today was the first time i thought i saw an inkling of possible chribecca on the horizon... not happy. Yes.. BUT... you have to remember that Christian (and the audience) knows something that Rebecca doesn't... that there is a chance that Rebecca's dad will come home. I hated the scenes a few days ago when Rebecca was talking about Helena leaving...and then I remembered that Christian knows why she left. He's compensating for keeping that secret by being overly nice. I think this fits very nicely still with the fact that Christian feels sorry for her.
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Post by riboflavinb2 on Dec 22, 2009 10:47:33 GMT -5
Mona! Your mom watches VL with you? Hilarious! My mother almost jumped up because she thought that was an actual flashback and he said it to Rebecca
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Post by riboflavinb2 on Dec 22, 2009 9:51:11 GMT -5
Personally, I think it's both. She knew they were going up stairs for sexy-time. Hell, all of No Limits knew. I think it was both reality and Rebecca's jealousy/sadness/hurt. Now... I don't think Rebecca feeling that way is wrong. There's been losts of times where I see my friends with their significant others and I'm like "Awww man! I wish I had a hot boyfriend and we...did stuffs!" I think Rebecca is just lonely. So, do we have consensual opinion, if Ollian sex scene was reality or Rebecca's nightmare?
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Post by riboflavinb2 on Dec 18, 2009 17:58:39 GMT -5
but even looking like an idiot he is sexier than any man I've known!! Sorry Jo fans ! I don't know.... Johnny Depp as Capitan Jack Sparrow is pretty up there. As is Matt Damon's Linus in Ocean's 11. Adam Brody as Seth Cohen in The O.C. would make that list too. But Thore's in some seriously good company.
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Post by riboflavinb2 on Dec 18, 2009 17:54:06 GMT -5
Thanks Joanna for the caps... This is Olli's "I'm SO getting laid" face
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Post by riboflavinb2 on Dec 18, 2009 17:44:59 GMT -5
.... And obviously very secure in himself that he doesn't mind looking like an idiot (mussy hair/tree costume ect) You've seen Daily Dope right? He definitively has no problem with looking like an idiot.
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Post by riboflavinb2 on Dec 18, 2009 17:43:48 GMT -5
Just a few reactions to today's video: A) "Crazy Andreas" was right... There WAS a Christian/Rebecca Kissing scene.... and just in time for Christmas too. Thank GOD it was NOTHING like he had predicted! Over all the video made me laugh and it redeemed some of my faith in the writers. Granted, it's still dumb, but I approve wet out-of-shower scenes and hot Chrolli biting any day! If I had to live through Rebecca to get more of that... small price to pay.
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Post by riboflavinb2 on Dec 17, 2009 14:23:09 GMT -5
My favorite part was a) That Rebecca had to hit her head to fall in love with him (the CRAZY)! and b) Jasmine does not have perfect skin which b) makes me like the actress more... because despite her beauty she's not perfect. (me and my stretch-marks rejoice.)
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Post by riboflavinb2 on Dec 16, 2009 17:16:46 GMT -5
Oh, I missed the switch Christian and Tristian thing. Meh. Details! He wouldn't lose Gregor as a relative. They'd still have the same Mother. I thought that too but today I realized that's not possible because Helena and Tristan are twins and then it would have to be switching the babys means Christians parents would be the parents from Tristan completely. Or not?
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Post by riboflavinb2 on Dec 16, 2009 17:07:56 GMT -5
I think not being blood related to Gregor would hurt Christian the most and could lead to him hiding it and in the end "You're always be my little brother no matter if you're a Lahnstein in your blood". On one hand he would lose Gregor as a blood relative, but on the other he'd get the R-person as his sister ;D He wouldn't lose Gregor as a relative. They'd still have the same Mother.
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Post by riboflavinb2 on Dec 14, 2009 9:36:03 GMT -5
LOL yah I'm done reading all the negative posts. Riboflavin, brownsugar and whoever else who refuse to believe in chribecca, I'm only gonna read your posts. It's not that I don't think it won't happen, it's that I don't see it happening based on current spoilers. If we got a spoiler that said, "Christian realizes his love for Rebecca" well then... alrighty it's going down. And we've had "Christian sees Rebecca in a new light" spoilers play out on screen... and I still say: drinking apple juice is not a sacrifice or a sign of great love. I think the writers are trying their hardest to fill the void that Judith left when Katrin left. Yes, I realize that unlike Judith Rebecca will develop feelings for Christian... but I think that's keeping in character of her lack of understand of what love is... and because Christian sparkles and makes funny faces she's all like: swoon! Christian is a lot further developed than she is in terms of the Lovegame. I can see him using her for a rebound f*uck but I can't see a long term relationship between the two of them. I think from the get-go Rebecca has been on a slow decline into what she is today. She was head-over-heals for Gregor and she rushed into "I love you" but their relationship was far from love. Call me old fashioned, but I don't think sleeping with a guy makes it love. I think Rebecca mixes up lust and desire for love. I think her shopping addiction is to fill that void and make her feel better about herself because Gregor did a number on her. It's like the time I cut my hair really, really short (albeit it looked adorable) lost like 15lbs and bought all new clothes when my ex fiance broke off our engagement. Mind you, the next time I saw him in a bar I felt REALLY damn awesome because he totally wanted me back (this was like 5 years ago) but when I got home I bawled my pretty little eyes out because all the new hair styles and lost pounds in the world wasn't going to make that relationship work. That's where Rebecca is, she's superficially trying to pick up the pieces... and the next nice guy to her is going to look really good. She's already kissed Oliver. So why wouldn't she throw herself at Christian too? She's looking for anyone, ANYONE who will pay attention to her. I also still think that the Robert thing will shake things up and I don't think these "tensions" are pointing to the apocalypse. They fight, it's what they do. They make up. It's what they do. I personally, I'm all for a cheating story (except with Rebecca), I too wouldn't mind seeing Olli with a girl and Christian pining after Olli. I wouldn't mind Christian with a boy and Olli pining after him. There's a lot of things I wouldn't mind. I'm NOT one of those people who's shouting "GIVE THEM A WEDDING!" Because I don't care! I want drama with hot sex scenes. Like some hot Chrolli stable sex or something. But a Wedding?? They can get married right before the actor's decide to leave the show! And IF only one of them leaves... then have them get married and kill off the one who's leaving! (TALK ABOUT DRAMA!) But I couldn't care less if they got married right now... JUST WRITE ME SOME GOOD DRAMA!
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Post by riboflavinb2 on Dec 12, 2009 15:14:35 GMT -5
Um...nope. Not everybody. Ditto!!! Actually, if I may be so bold to say, I'm CONFIDENT that Chribecca isn't going to happen from these spoilers. I also have a STRONG feeling that Olli's advice is more than a romantic dinner. I don't think it's a proposal, but I am sure it's going to be good. I'm thinking strawberries and yummy sexytime. Maybe if Santa is good to us Mona will get her dream of post-sex pillow talk! Yes, Christian will spew off to Rebbeca, just like Olli did with Judith. Will Rebecca give Christian a piece of Chocolate cake? Maybe! Will she say, "CHIN UP! GO GET YOUR OLLI YOU CRAZY HEAD!" I HOPE so! Will she say, "That's okay, I love you!" She might and I hope Christian says, "WHY WOULD YOU SAY THAT? I LOVE OLLI DAMNIT!" The spoilers don't say, "Rebecca confesses her love and Christian uses her as a rebound f*ck" I don't think next week's will either. They might... but lo! David will step in and say, "Rebecca, we can't let a gay love like this die! It's too awesome!!" Which, will be weird coming from David because he did call our boys girls once... but the writers don't care about character history! Fear not my loyal watchers of Chrolli... fear not! Also... I think Robert is allllll kinds of trouble... and that makes me SO excited. Like giddy even! So NO! I'm not phased by these new spoilers. I have faith that the writers have heard our plight and have good things planned for our boys... Yes! I! Am!
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Post by riboflavinb2 on Dec 11, 2009 14:59:22 GMT -5
I have questions. I haven't been watching much lately. I've read the spoilers and it appears that Rebecca has a crush on Christian but is trying to respect Oliver. I know that Christian has been in a lot of scenes with Rebecca. One question is...has Christian ever shown any romantic interest in Rebecca at all? I was wondering because I'm reading the posts and it's obvious that many think there has to be a "Chribecca" pairing at some point. I was wondering how exactly would that happen? Has he shown anything so far that would give the viewer a clue of his budding interest? Has he had flashbacks of being with her no matter how innocent? Does he stare at her longingly or feel uncomfortable whenever she's around him and Oliver? Or do you think that bringing Robert on is the catalyst for Christian to all of a sudden realize that he loves Rebecca and he has to leave Oliver? Has the Chribecca relationship so far been anything more than one-sided on Rebecca's part? Thus far Christian has shown zero signs of reciprocating her feelings. People are speculating at what point Christian will start to feel something for her... that could be Robert or it could be never. But thus far it is a completely one-sided thingI'm asking because when Coco was in the picture, it didn't take Christian this long to have feelings for Oliver. He struggled and struggled over the issue of his feelings for another man and although he tried to deny them, he couldn't. Has he had problems trying to deny any romatic feelings toward Rebecca? For quite awhile, Coco knew something was wrong with Christian. He barely wanted to touch her, and she felt it. Has he treated Oliver that way lately? I don't know what the writers have planned, and it does appear that Christian and Oliver will go through some heavy angst, but it also seems as if they will come through it as a couple, eventually. People also believe that Christian didn't fall for Oliver until he KNEW Oliver liked him. I disagree with this slightly (The Gym scene where he leans over him on the equipment and the interest he took in Oliver's sex life (like at the breakfast table when Timo leaves the second time) but many people think that if Christian finds out he will start to reciprocate her feelings. And begin to look longingly at her or have dreams about her... or just have a one night stand. At this point Christian falling for rebecca is pure speculation.
My own take is that it will not happen.
I hope that helps answer your questions.
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Post by riboflavinb2 on Dec 11, 2009 14:37:56 GMT -5
Well for what it's worth... here's what I'm hoping: I'm hoping just this once "jealous" translates to "over protective." Maybe he doesn't like Robert because he thinks Robert is trouble. THAT would be interesting. It's silly to think that Christian still gets jealous at all. Why not of Andi? I mean, yes I know he's straight and totally head over heals for Helena... but Olli and Andi are good buddies! Olli threw Andi a party! We don't even know that Robert is a threat in a sexual way. I'd love for Olli to be like, "um, Robert is straight." I'd equally love for Robert to be a friend off the cruise ship... we don't even know how they know each other or how they're able to get so chummy so fast. I posted this on VL_discuss, but it fits here, too. I'm not sure about the latest spoilers, what to make of them in the grand scheme of things. At first I got excited that Robert would stay for longer. And Christian jealous means he still has the most feelings for Olli. But he looked comfortable sitting next to Rebecca during the celebrations, too. But then I remembered that they used the jealousy card just to drive a wedge between them time and again. So far, he's never had reason to be jealous and it would be kinda cool if the triangle really would turn into Ollian/Robert. But I can't shake the feeling that Robert won't stick around. Why is he even still there? How can Olli hang out with him after Robert has told him he doesn't have the chops to be a big event guru? And Olli will probably not flirt with him too much and then he'll be gone again (like the restaurant critic). This feels like another reason to fight, nothing more. Making Olli the bad guy. The writers really put a lot on him lately, like working off his butt at NL. This could lead to Olli/Robert comforting, but he doesn't even appreciate him either, and I think it will mostly lead to Ollian breakup. And then I questioned why Christian is jealous if they're going for Chribecca. But Christian was jealous when Coco told him she kissed another guy, too. I guess he views this as a breach of trust or has low self-esteem. Both of them have a problem with the fact that the other one is branching out and enjoying their freedom, aka they grow apart. And Olli might feel offended that Christian doesn't trust him, etc. Christian will probably whine to Rebecca about it, like to Olli back in the day. You gotta wonder if Rebecca's story was intended for Judith. Judith gave Christian talkings to when he didn't accept his illness and always played matchmaker for the boys or comforted them. The stuff they needed to build with Rebecca first. And now they're at the same point, with group hugs and whatnot. The NL fights and jealousy started in summer and then was forgotten about again.
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Post by riboflavinb2 on Dec 11, 2009 9:28:40 GMT -5
johnny I can see where you see it, but I don't see it. The have similar features but I think Thore has more of a boyish charm about him that this guy doesn't have. Now, I've never seen Thore all sexed up for a parfum ad... but I think even all sexed up he'd retain some of his boyish charm. Like...Heath Ledger used to have or Leo DiCaprio did in his younger days. Or even (god I can't believe I'm saying this) Tayler Lautner does. sorry to change the subject (sort of). but is it just me or does this guy bear a more than passing resemblance to thore s?! i think it's his back view more than anything else..
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Post by riboflavinb2 on Dec 11, 2009 9:22:01 GMT -5
Couple of things from my end: I think the finger pointing in the photo is staged for the photo. Did Olli start dressing better? And, I really like Thore with longer hair... I'm not crazy about the highlights, but the longer hair in the back has appeal to it. Once again, I'm not concerned. Rebecca is nowhere to be seen. That's good. There's a combo or reasons for the argument... that's good. (This Robert guy, the location, Olli not getting his way all the time...) I'm excited for this.
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Post by riboflavinb2 on Dec 10, 2009 19:54:41 GMT -5
Personally, I love the Millennium much more than the Marquis. But that's me. Is everyone excited? Color me surprised! From the previous description, I was fully expecting the hotel to be the Marriot Marquis, which is about $100 per night more expensive than the Millennium. That's good news! (lowest price I'm seeing for the Millennium is about $200/night + tax) www.millenniumhotels.com/millenniumnewyork/index.htmlIt looks like they have rooms that accommodate 3 or 4. (The search function on the Millennium's site has max adult guests on the drop-box at 3). They list AAA, AARP, & Government rates. Do you have a membership with AAA or AARP (50+ y.o.)? Check your other club memberships to see if they have travel programs that offer discounts. ETA; I just called the hotel and confirmed, if this matters to anyone (besides me), that the Millennium does offer smoking rooms on the 28th & 29th floors. those are "standard" rooms, and she said those rooms have 1 King or 1 Queen. It was unclear whether those rooms also included rooms with 2 double beds, but I suspect those would be included as well on those floors.
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Post by riboflavinb2 on Dec 10, 2009 13:33:43 GMT -5
Off Topic... but needs to be said: I hate how Katrin's weight keeps coming up. I was told that Katrin had been a runner before VL and had picked it up again during VL. I was told her weight loss was due to a desire to live an active life style again. Kes. I do NOT think she looks anorexic AT ALL. Katrin and I are the same height and she's at my ideal weight. I can't speak for Katrin (and this may be giving away too much about myself) but 3 years ago I went through a horrible health experience (in which I could not digest food properly) and gained 40 lbs IN THREE WEEKS. Not even exaggerating. I'm a very active person but that didn't matter. I have since gotten my medical issues sussed out and I'm back to my active life style and have seen a gradual but dramatic weight loss. I have 15 lbs left. I don't look sick at my ideal weight and I don't think Katrin does either. I think she looks healthy and toned and she's built quite petite. (As am I) I don't know, but it's possible that Katrin sustained some kind of injury or life change that kept her from her active routine. But judging her all the time is something I will get defensive about because I think she looks great. She looked great before, but she still does. Jasmine - I don't see much of a weight loss with her AT ALL. Maybe toned up but nothing dramatic. I will jump all over the weight topic because I do know the actors read the board(s) and I'd hate. hate. hate. them to develop a complex when they all look fantastic. Besides, I really hold no great hopes for the TPTB being protective of their actors. IMO the very worrysome weight loss of both Katrin and Jasmine since they started on the show to me suggests that behind the scenes condition maybe aren't always as pretty as they like to pretend. Good points all the way around. This last bit really hit me. I wonder what life is really like at VL? They lost Katrin, and she does look anorexic. And then there is the loss of Olivia (I forgot the name of the wonderful actress who plays her). That just shouldn't have happened. Sad.
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