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Post by vanessa on Oct 25, 2012 6:05:05 GMT -5
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Post by vanessa on Oct 23, 2012 16:06:21 GMT -5
And again, regardless of the speculative articles that keep appearing (based on nothing but speculation, tweets and the fact that JP is returning), I really don't think JPendan, McBrady or whatever you want to call it is happening! They don't know any more than we do at this stage. I wouldn't put it past them to have a one night stand (Brendan isn't exactly fussy : but I can't see an actual 'ship' happening. Besides, James latest tweet suggest that he is leaving Dublin (or at least finished filming for the day) but other tweeters report seeing Kieron and Emmett still filming on a bridge and eating at some pizza place together. I think James there to film some JP introduction scenes and Kieron and Emmett are filming something entirely different. If their paths cross at all, JP will probably bump into them somewhere and recognise Ste. It'll be interesting to see if the writers actually remember the bad blood between them (JP blaming Ste for a car accident that Micheala was involved in) but then again, continuity isn't Hollyoaks strong point so I won't hold my breath.... . In other news, why can't Lynsey's funeral be about Lynsey and not the fact that Brendan and her brother have a past? So predictable and unnecessary. It added nothing to the episode. Stendan eating pizza together! How cute! ;D
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Post by vanessa on Oct 23, 2012 15:28:59 GMT -5
Omg! Brendan and Eoghan caught in the act by Chez and Ste! ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by vanessa on Oct 23, 2012 12:16:51 GMT -5
I'm really enjoying Brendan and Ste being there for each other. It's lovely to see. I'm so happy right now! I'm not sure if Stendan will reunite or not. But they will always be in each other's lives.
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Post by vanessa on Oct 23, 2012 12:13:56 GMT -5
What i like is the chemistry that Emmett and Kieron have. So if Stendan get back together then good. If not then nevermind. They will always be there for each other.
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Post by vanessa on Oct 11, 2012 3:11:18 GMT -5
Well, i want Ste and Brendan to be on good terms. Weather they get back together or not that's not an issue for me. They can be friends, like Amy and Ste are.
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Post by vanessa on Oct 10, 2012 10:57:40 GMT -5
I don't mind if Stendan get back together or not. I'm just glad that they still love each other. Ste sees Brendan good side and believes in him. Both have changed a lot since they last were together. Ste is a lot more independent and Brendan is coming to terms with his childhood abuse. I can see a reunion very soon. They won't be able to fight their feelings for long.
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Post by vanessa on Oct 9, 2012 14:17:40 GMT -5
I think it's obvious that Ste and Brendan still care a lot about each other. I think if they took things slowly they could make a fantastic couple. Doug will always be second best i'm afraid. I get that Vanessa and I do agree with you (I much prefer Stendan to Stug and have never made any secret of that fact) but even you must feel like we are going round and round in circles now. It's just more of the same - Ste and Brendan growing closer but oh look, Doug's back now and Ste's trying to prove himself to him.... . I think I'd prefer Ste to be single than stuck in this never ending triangle because we never seem to get anywhere and it's frustrating for both the 'Stug' and 'Stendan' fans. In more positive news, I've just read that Ste's mother might be returning. That's interesting. Finally a storyline for Ste that hopefully won't revolve around his complicated relationships. Although she might be back for the Stug wedding so who knows? I agree. Just when Stendan are getting somewhere something happens to screw it up. But i hope Ste meets Pa Brady and Brendan meets Ste's mum Puline. How mad would that be? Meet the parents! ;D
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Post by vanessa on Oct 9, 2012 11:51:38 GMT -5
So, the past two years that Ste and Brendan have been around each other was fast? Figures You know what i mean. They've both been through so much. The last thing they need is to rush things.
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Post by vanessa on Oct 9, 2012 10:08:03 GMT -5
Lol Trini, don't be so surprised to agree with me! I am a BB fan but I can still be subjective! ;D Recently I've noticed a shift in the writing to try and make Brendan more likeable/less 2d villian. For example, they clearly had Brendan buy Ste's flat so we could have a 'landlord from hell' storyline...but then they changed it to 'I brought it because they were going to knock it down'...I thought the change in writing was a positive thing because it might finally bring about the 'change' that Smithwick was always talking about, thus leading to Ste FINALLY making a decision about his lovelife and choosing either Doug or changed Brendan, once and for all. But no. What you say is exactly right. They are keeping Ste with Doug whilst constantly having these 'moment's between Stendan. Just look at the latest spoilers. It's happening again: Thurs 25th - “Just as Brendan and Ste are getting somewhere, Doug suddenly returns to the scene.”Fri 26th - “Ste’s determined to prove his commitment to Doug, but is he over Brendan?”I know I use this smilie ' ' alot, but . I think it's obvious that Ste and Brendan still care a lot about each other. I think if they took things slowly they could make a fantastic couple. Doug will always be second best i'm afraid.
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Post by vanessa on Oct 9, 2012 10:04:14 GMT -5
Ste was also also a child and then a teenager when he was being emotionally and physically abused and he was still a teenager when he met Amy. They were both teenagers. A teenager is not the same as an adult man (particularly not someone over 30 years old). Your brain isn't even finished developing at 16. Ste wasn't even done growing. Not only did he go to drug counseling but he also went to youth offenders and he took anger management AND parenting classes. He was a single dad for almost 2 years and did everything to be a good dad. It's very frustrating for men when the full narrative of Ste's past is ignored an only him abusing Amy is brought up as though nothing has happened since. Ste and Amy were BOTH a mess then. Amy's home life was a mad house of mental instability, alcoholism, lies, deceit, secrets and mayhem. But Amy and Ste managed to get through it and become very different people and develop a real, loving relationship. I've always felt that a large portion of Ste's self hatred as a teen and his taking it out on Amy is connected to his coming out later. It makes sense for a the character and ads depth to his life story. But I also think that the cycle of violence and the programming that comes from that kind of background is part of what made Ste such an easy mark and willing victim for Brendan. Some part of Ste believed he deserved what Brendan did to him both because of what he did to Amy and because he had conflated love with pain and manipulation (as many abuse survivors do). I think that is one of the things that makes Doug and Ste so attractive as a couple to me because they both have this pasts of not feeling loved and wanting to prove themselves and they DO make each other better men when they work together toward a goal. They are awesome loving men separately and excellent friends but they are better together. They fit. It may not be the "passion" of some other couples (mostly destructive passion when it comes to Hollyoaks) but they aren't boring and I really, really hope we get to seem them get a chance to have adventures together and go through some non-coming out, non-Brendan related challenges in the future. Fingers crossed. It's funny how a couple can make you see each individual character so differently. I have to see, I'm looking forward to a LOT less Brendan because I just feel like they left it all on the floor during "Later" and and there is not really anywhere else for him to go. Totally agree with this I just want the cycle of violence in Ste life to stop and I personally think that he is more excepting of a violet relationship than a caring one is because violence is such a significant part of his life romantic love in the is not. That is way he is always a better friend than boyfriend. As for Ste and Doug, I know they are in a bad place at the moment not because they don't love each other and they don't want to be together,that is why they never break up, they just don't know how to deal with their own individual issues in the context of their relationship, it all boils down to poor communication. While I never wanted Ste and Brendan to reunite as a couple, I understood a lot of their fans pov that both of these individuals had similar past had this chemistry and maybe if the could get over the violent, mentally abusive aspects of their relationship they could be a good couple. However, Brendan is no longer just an abusive man struggling with his sexuality, he is very dangerous man who have chosen to torture a man ,while encouraging and emotionally abusing a 19 year old who is already damaged, for to join in on the fun and shows no regret for a death he thinks he is in part responsible for (compare his reaction to Joel's and Doug's) Then he went on to kill, his grandmother, in breach of his own moral code that he is not violent with women. This is not just a man who bullies, belittles or intimidates people,he have deep psychotic issue that do not diminish with time. He might play normal for a while but eventually, those issues left unchecked resurfaces. I have no problem with a Stendan reunion if and only if the honest consequence of that reunion is shown. Stendan still love each other. They know they shouldn't be together, but they just can't help themselves. Sooner or later they will give in to their feelings. And i'm hoping by then Brendan will have confronted his father.
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Post by vanessa on Oct 9, 2012 10:00:22 GMT -5
I think Brendan has to confront his father before he can move on. That's why Emma is bringing him to the show. Then Stendan can reunite until Emmett leaves the show. Vanessa, I hope you don't take this the wrong way and I also hope this isn't against any kind of rules, but how old are you? You just seem very young when it comes to this Stenden thing you got going on. Off topic.
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Post by vanessa on Oct 6, 2012 14:04:29 GMT -5
I know they were not together in January when he hit him,but he did hit him but after that Brendan and Ste did not have much interaction until Ste tricked him into signing over the deli and the a few weeks later Linsey death happened and that is when they became somewhat friendly. The larger point I was making is giving Brendan credit for not hitting Ste since January is nonsensical because even in January Ste and Brendan were still playing stupid games with eachother where they both would throw snide remarks at each other it was not until the final punch in the gut that Ste began totally ignoring him and keeping distance and not taking on Brendan when he would make snide remarks. And I don't see the point you are trying to make with Walker,that Brendan is violet with people that are not his boyfriends, I never said any different. Brendan tends to be violent when he's feeling tense or going through some intense emotions. He couldn't handle his feelings for Ste. That's why he hit him. But now he has embraced his sexuality, so i doubt he'll hit him again. But he still tends to lose it when his loved ones are in danger. Walker threatened Lindsey. That was enough to set him off.
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Post by vanessa on Oct 6, 2012 12:32:37 GMT -5
First of all, Brendan hasn't hit Ste since January. And second you're wrong about Stendan getting married in the future. It will never happen. Emmett is leaving, so they can't give them a happy ending. Brendan have not hit Ste since January because they are not together and up until a Linsey's death they were not interacting with each other. Good to know Brendan does not hit people when he is not around them. With all the respect, that's nonsense. They weren't together when he hit him last January. He hit Walker once and they also were never a couple.
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Post by vanessa on Oct 6, 2012 12:18:43 GMT -5
Petrichor I see it just like you, again I guess it's also a problem of how Ste is written: I mean as far as I've heard he was a riot boy once, but not stupid, now he's totally bipolar (as you correctly said, he's suffer of S syndrome WTH?! ) in his behaviour but especially about his inner feeling. That's a thing I hate about this kind of storytelling: ok, we're supposed to believe everything that these writers give us, but I'm not able anymore "to feel" it, when you're out of tune with the characters in the end you simply don't care for them anymore. I've felt the same also about Walker: his big vendetta lies on a shaky base, even Brendan, often it seems to sit & watch "what's the monster of the week this time?!" LOL...what a waste of potential (Niel+Emmet as actors' ensamble could have been a bomb ), they could have handled it better. So we come back to stage 1: it's a not well done story (apart some highlight), therefore we are mostly assuming what should have been more developed on screen instead. It's also too predictable on the things that matter. The so called epic Stendan love is only on paper (& shown as a glimpse of their "magical chemestry" for 5 out-of-context minutes twice a year or so, but apparently for the hardcore fans this is enough, they cheer as if nothing ever bad happened previously & like everything has its twisted logic anyway), while the Stug relation is willingly taken on the fringe: who knows probably it's cos TPTB needed to keep alive this fan bases' little war. Still I don't get why they didn't choose to go all the way, even both way who cares, but to give us a genuine taste of it whole (a bit like with psycho Mercedes' lover doc, who at least went all the way with his down spiral & his relationship with M...but indeed it's a bad sign when viewers have to hang up with random guest stars to not give up!). They've never had the balls to turn BB into a real powerful villain but at the same time a true lover & caring man for his BF/clan, this sucked big time IMO, because has kinda ruined the role IMHO. Now everything sounds too little too late... My 2 cents are that, ironically, if B/Emmet hadn't become so popular we'd have seen the natural flow of this kind of SLs (similar to the tortured doc's route), instead this way we've had a half aborted plot/role, which is a pity, I believe the other way round could have been intriguing. Regardless there's a part of the fandom mainly interested into B hooking up with a hot dude, period. Then clearly no big deal: I recall when Dodger arrived x ex, how everybody got mad just at the idea of them together, even if they shared just 1 silly ep...to each 1 his own but yep, I'd need more to get excited. PS_Ahhahhahh you're right D.diva! but give them time, Mercedes could even evolve into lesbian quite soon at this point like Doug did out of the blue, I can picture she & archenemy Mitzee so well together as catfight & friends with benefits , it'd be fun LOL! Overall I don't excuse behaviours if there's a love story beneath, let's say if they had done a better plot a la Dr Jeckyll Mr Hyde as a real disease for Brendan I could have cut them some slack, ditto if he had shown signs of true change, but this is just lame to root for, actually...I've nothing left to root for here I'm afraid. Cheers* Totally agree with this,however I think it have more to do with the Ste/Brendan relationship becoming popular that Brendan becoming popular. So we back to this mantra that Brendan have change,didn't I hear this same statement after Linsey's death,and look what we've got after that,torture and murder. What have he done in the last couple of episodes that shown that he have changed? You mean the fact that he pushed Ste away while at the as time leaving him with a guilt trip that all this time when Ste was mad at him he,Brendan was the one basically keeping his life intact. No wonder Ste is back in the "puppy" stage according to him he needs Brendan, and basically Brendan supplied him with the proof that he does. I sure we are going to get the self pity,poor me Brendan, why can't everyone see that I've changed in weeks to come, that a lot would see as change but would it turn into actual change in the long run I doubt it. I think Brendan has to confront his father before he can move on. That's why Emma is bringing him to the show. Then Stendan can reunite until Emmett leaves the show.
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Post by vanessa on Oct 6, 2012 12:15:23 GMT -5
Okay, so breaking away from the effects of bullying is great and a good thing for your individual self-esteem. Yet, I don't see folks wishing that Esther could find a way to "forgive" Maddie for all the crap she's put her through. Maddie's had bad horrible stuff go on in her life right? It's not at all comparable to BB, but it's still bad. Why is there this clear understanding about the harmful aspects of bullying, yet there's confusion about gay domestic violence and the harmful effects of that on Ste? Didn't you know we can over look all that because it's a soap and there is all this chemistry and BB was/is a tortured soul who just happens to have murdered two people been responsible for the deaths of two people and cut one of them up into little peices. But we can over look that too, because BB is changing and we can see that because he was willing to take a bullet (although Walker was never going to shoot him and made a big point of letting him know that several times) for Ste. That and he's been taking bullets for Ste left, right and center for months now (re-writing history/cannon notwithstanding). So what's a few cracked ribs, a couple of black eyes and a boat load of verbal putdowns. I mean its not like there's a messge being sent or anything.... ETA: I predicte that they will get married move into a little cottage, where Ste can wear shades in the winter to hide the black eyes and long sleeve sweaters in the summers to hide the bruises. And it won't matter so much that he's losing teeth and has to gum his food because all that matters is that BB loves him and he loves BB. A kiss with a fist is better than none... and all that jazz. First of all, Brendan hasn't hit Ste since January. And second you're wrong about Stendan getting married in the future. It will never happen. Emmett is leaving, so they can't give them a happy ending.
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Post by vanessa on Oct 4, 2012 16:10:04 GMT -5
Seriously forwarding Stug scenes Doug annoys me and poor Ste having to deal with it.Brendan the plumber oh yea.Brendan is being the better person he has much to worry about like his son.Grow up Doug and stop acting like immature teenager. Stendan scene how i think Ste wanted and all of us wanted Brendan to say he loves him so much and never will stop. Awwww Brendan saying your better off without me and Ste like no i am not.Brendan i been taking bullets for you for months. I'm not good for you stay away me.Ste main focus and concern was all about Brendan .Everything that happen today in my option is build up to a Stendan reunion soon. I agree. No doubt Ste will go back to Doug, but he still loves Brendan. Hopefully he will make the right choice. It's better to be with the person you really love, no matter how long it lasts. Who says that the best kind of love is the one that lasts forever?
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Post by vanessa on Oct 4, 2012 15:53:11 GMT -5
Ste's heart belongs to Brendan. This was obvious from tonight show. I'm sure he'll go back to Doug, but it won't change a thing.
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Post by vanessa on Oct 4, 2012 15:07:09 GMT -5
We've always known that Ste loves Brendan. No one has ever denined that. But loving someone and having them love you doesn't mean you should be together. And that is also something we've known about these two for awhile. Although some don't want to accept it. Brendan has already changed a lot. I think if they take things slowly they can make things work.
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Post by vanessa on Oct 4, 2012 14:55:16 GMT -5
Robert May @robmay999 Final scene of the day @kieronrichardso @peejaybrennan @hollyoaks its been emotional #earlynightJust seen this tweet from some guy who works at HO, think he might be a director? Anyway, as predicted, Stug seem to be very much together (oh joy!) and emotional (when are they anything but? : Wonderr what they could be emotional about this time? A break up? Something wedding-y? Something to do with Leah? We know now that Ste still loves Brendan. No matter what happens next. They love each other! ;D
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Post by vanessa on Oct 4, 2012 14:54:55 GMT -5
Robert May @robmay999 Final scene of the day @kieronrichardso @peejaybrennan @hollyoaks its been emotional #earlynightJust seen this tweet from some guy who works at HO, think he might be a director? Anyway, as predicted, Stug seem to be very much together (oh joy!) and emotional (when are they anything but? : Wonderr what they could be emotional about this time? A break up? Something wedding-y? Something to do with Leah? We know now that Ste still loves Brendan. No matter what happens next. They love each other! ;D
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Post by vanessa on Oct 4, 2012 14:52:16 GMT -5
Omg! That was amazing! Brendan telling Ste he'd take a bullet for him! Ste trying to stop Brendan from leaving. Sweet and heartbreaking. Stendan really feel like such an amazing love story! ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by vanessa on Oct 4, 2012 6:25:54 GMT -5
He should have at least discussed it with Ste. I wouldn't have helped Walker. He was acting alone, without back up. That would have made me suspicious. Again...How was Doug supposed to know that? People keep implying by their comments that Doug is a mind reader who should have known Walker's motives. And exactly when were we ever shown that Doug has such powers of precongnition? Doug trusted a a cop, something that most people do. Brendan on the other hand knew that Walker was out to hurt him the only way he knew how and that is through Brendan's loved ones. Instead of telling the people he loved that Walker was out to get him and by extension them, he put them all in danger. He allowed events to unfold the way they did because of his so called "code" (which by the way I see as a total load of bullshit). Walker was the gun, but Brendan put the bullets in the gun and allowed it to be fired at the people he loves. I think we better agree to disagree here. I'm leaving it at that. I can't agree with what you say. I'm sorry.
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Post by vanessa on Oct 4, 2012 5:37:07 GMT -5
Doug should have refused to help Walker. Why? Doug didn't know that Walker was a psycho. He should have at least discussed it with Ste. I wouldn't have helped Walker. He was acting alone, without back up. That would have made me suspicious.
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Post by vanessa on Oct 4, 2012 5:18:37 GMT -5
I think I've had my fill of violent murderous psychopaths on Hollyoaks I have no desire to meet the abusive, child molesting monster that "made" Brendan. Seriously, enough is enough. Dr Psycho, Officer Psycho, Gay Psycho, Granpa Psycho, Harlot Psycho All in one year. Poor Mitzeee didn't deserve any of the horribly crap that has happened to her and neither does Ste, Declan or Doug. I wouldn't mind if Brendan and Declan just went back to Dublin for a while and we got a break from all that violence and madness. I certainly think Ste and Doug deserve a few months of funny and endearing storylines instead of the non stop trauma drama train. But we need to see more reasons to weep for Brendan. Don't you know how he suffers? And we need more reasons for Ste to pout and sneer as Doug weeps in the corner. Never have I wanted a show to banish all gay characters as much as I do Hollyoaks. I guess there's George, I don't really care about that character. Ste and Doug have been destroyed beyond repair, and Brendan is worthless. Doug is the one who is worthless, but not Brendan and Ste. They're both great characters and i love then separately and also together.
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