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Post by seanny on Nov 15, 2014 2:26:23 GMT -5
I think that maybe Sonny does not cheat but Paul is Sonny's "selfish" ex. It kind of makes sense because of Paul being secretly in town and also the two characters have so far appeared on the same days this past week. I believe Will finds them in a compromising situation and thinks that Sonny has behaved in Salem as he has in LA.
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Post by seanny on Oct 31, 2014 23:26:04 GMT -5
It's not the bad boy, it's the layers of grey. Sonny right now is almost a saint (or a doormat, like you prefer). I remember some years ago it started to air in spain a sit com about a building neighbourhood, it was based loosely on a comic. There was a gay couple, and frankly i thought the worse. One of the characters was totally an stereotype, but surprise, the character was more than an stereotype, he was funny, he was relatable, he was hysterical but over all he was lovable. And he was all that because the writing was good and the actor was (is) good The problem with daytime is the writing is bad (or very bad) and the characters (not only the gays) are pure sterotype, and sometimes even switch stereotypes. The gays of daytime are so pure that Bryan was watched as a villiam when he only wanted Sonny ( and frankly he was way more suitable for him that Will). I know that you can fill of gay characters the soap, but making the two gays endgame even before they kiss each other is a big mistake. All over the globe daytime is repeating the same mistakes with their gay storylines. To make a marriage or adopting a child storyline interesting you need quality writing (and probably good dosis of humour), to make a domestic violence storyline interesting you need to be subtle. Qualities that are unknown on daytime. And it's not a question of being the bad guy, because in that case you have a problem, the same problem if the bad guy is the only asian, or the only black, or the only latino, because you are using tokenism in the worst way. But you can make your gay characters universally pure, resolve all their problems (and Wilson have a lot of problems) in half episode, and expect nothing more than they being the vortex of boredom. When i used Ian and Mickey as example, that wasn't what i expect of daytime. I used them because they are perfect to show that characters with flaws (tons of flaws in Mickey's case) can be interesting, and people can love them. Perfection is not real and is boring. Creating a good character doesn't mean he can't defend himself, or he need to be a doormat, or he can only be a suport his unbearable friends. It's easier to create bad interesting guys, but you can write an interesting good guy. Luke Snyder was that guy for a while, the problem with Sonny is that he was never developed (something that happened with Noah too), and the problem with Will is that he is totally inconsistent as character. General Hospital did a good job avoidid the "great love story" couple storyline introducing three gay characters, the problem is none of them have enough screentime to do anything Hell ya! What a freakin' beautiful post, man.
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Post by seanny on Oct 26, 2014 21:05:07 GMT -5
I kind of wish Chandler was back as Will even though I found his chemistry with Freddie lacking. At least Chandler was interesting to watch even with the awful writing. My real preference is to see my avatar recast as Will. Maybe the new guy will come between WilSon. God, I hope so.
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Post by seanny on Oct 26, 2014 1:28:52 GMT -5
I heard of rumor that Guy is going on reoccurring soon. Hopefully, when Will returns it will be a different actor in the role.
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Post by seanny on Sept 25, 2014 15:04:46 GMT -5
I'm stunned at how much Billy Flynn resembles Chandler Massey. I just watched the Chad/Ben confrontation at the club and when Sonny gets in Chad's face, Chad smiles and it just like having the old WilSon back for a moment. I can imagine it must be pretty jarring for the cast too. I mean Billy even smirks like Chandler.
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Post by seanny on Jul 7, 2014 0:40:58 GMT -5
But there are ways to avoid that (even when soaps never use them) and it's quite easy. You introduce the character in another storyline, take time to develop him and make him likeable, and then you introduce him in the Wilson storyline, and it's good if the new guy doesn't show any interest for any of them at first.If you throw someone new directly in their storyline it's not going to work. They need to do something with Wilson, they never were exciting but right now they are boring beyond belief (a marriage and a child is absolutely the best way to kill the excitement about a gay couple). Ah, you're talking about the Reid Oliver treatment. I thought that was smart on ATWT's part (regardless of the way they go on to F-up the character) because Reid was a lead role i.e. he interacted with majority of the cast unlike Nuke. Lure happening and Martha Bryne being fired got Luke graduated to lead too for the short period the show remained on air. Poor Noah was demoted to day player status. I always thought Days should have gone the same route with the Ben character. He's in Sonny's orbit already but they are not in the same story really. Sadly it looks like we are in for a Ben, Abigail, Chad triangle after EJ departs.
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Post by seanny on Jul 2, 2014 16:49:59 GMT -5
It's a "Down the road" spoiler from SOC: "A third party shakes up a seemingly stable couple in more ways than one." But we don't know who the couple is. It may be about JJ and Paige and the third party is Eve. Eve does not want Paige with JJ. It could be Maggie and Victor as well, but my guess is that this spoiler is about WilSon besides Paige and JJ only became "stable" about three weeks ago.
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Post by seanny on Jul 2, 2014 16:47:14 GMT -5
Well, if there's a third party hopefully won't be something like Ameera storyline in ATWT They better not introduce a female interloper for WilSon. That ATWT story was a disaster. I felt so sorry for the actress that portrayed Ameera. Everyone hated her character and she knew it. When I met her I told her that I respect her talent and my dislike of her character had absolutely nothing to do with her personally.
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Post by seanny on Jul 2, 2014 16:35:30 GMT -5
were did you get the 3rd party will be coming between WilSon I have looked and can not find it any where I haven't seen a spoiler like that either. It's a "Down the road" spoiler from SOC: "A third party shakes up a seemingly stable couple in more ways than one."
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Post by seanny on Jun 27, 2014 13:48:03 GMT -5
So the current spoilers say that Will is getting a new job soon and that a 3rd party will be coming between WilSon in the future. Anybody have more insight or speculation? Could this 3rd party be Will's new boss? I would love it if my avatar would swoop in and rescue Sonny from Will/Arianna for a while.
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Post by seanny on Jun 27, 2014 13:42:08 GMT -5
The thing is, all Chandler needs is a thirty second scene with any drama or "meat" to it and he will outshine any actor on any soap. I've always felt that he should be a film actor playing complex roles, because he's that talented. He can convey so much while saying so little. There are few actors, in any medium, IMO that are as brilliant as Chandler. I totally agree. I agree as well. Chandler also has the ability to sometimes take substandard material and still make interesting scenes out of them. Freddie can too, but not as effectively. Our current Will cannot do this.
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Post by seanny on Jun 26, 2014 14:53:30 GMT -5
Congrats to Chandler and shame on Days. I think Btrian's problem was that his reel included Chad, who was in the same category and looked good in that reel too. So I think he lost done votes because of that. I think next year will be his to lose. Yeah. It's a shame that winners are picked just from a few scenes submitted rather than the body of work that they did all year long. In this case, Chandler probably would not even get a pre-nom as WilSon spent the majority of 2013 hiding in plain sight. I've been looking but I cannot seems to find an article regarding NATAS apologizing to Chandler for the clip mishap. They really need to do so, if they haven't already. The fact that he is no longer on daytime means squat.
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Post by seanny on Jun 22, 2014 22:56:01 GMT -5
The soap industry has been going on and on about how great DOOL has been this past year and they are right I think is one of if not the best soaps on air today. However, what Days has done to Will and Sonny is downright criminal! The writing for this two characters has been nothing short of horrible this past year. It is completely unrealistic to have two sub-25 y.o. gay men married and raising a child together with no other gay friends to support them. I could buy it if WilSon were in the late 20's or early 30's but the story as it is is quite ludicrous. WilSon has become so boring that even a dose of saccharin seems more risque! I hate beating a dead horse (especially when I'm rather fond of said horse) but here it is again...GUY WILSON HAS TO GO!!! It's not that I think he's a bad actor. He's actually quite good. Where he fails for me is being able to take the substandard material that WilSon has been getting and somehow make it interesting to watch. This is something that his predecessor did really well even though there was a distant lack of romantic chemistry between Freddie and Chandler. It does exist with Freddie and Guy thankfully but that's about all Guy has going for him. Also, he does not act out emotion well which is kind of ironic because Guy was hired to portray a character who is totally guided by - guess what? his emotions!
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Post by seanny on Jun 22, 2014 21:43:17 GMT -5
Chandler tweeted a pic of him and his dad when he was a baby wishing him a happy birthday. Man. The resemblance between Chandler today and his dad back then is uncanny!
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Post by seanny on Jun 22, 2014 21:40:27 GMT -5
YES CHANDLER WON 3 IN A ROW!!! Yes! Congrats to Chandler!!! Is he the first to have 3 back to back wins in the younger actor male category? My heart broke for Bryan Craig though. This really should have been his win IMO. Too bad the daytime emmys is basically a popularity contest although I would say that they do recognize true talent for the most part. What the hell happened to Chandler's reel?? Did some Days honcho payoff the emmy producers to humiliate Chandler further than they already have. I am glad that him basically shrugged off the blatant substitution with a quick quip. Very classy, Mr. Massey! This year's emmy producers should not receive any pay for the embarrassment of a show they put on. You know it's really bad when your show's host, Kathy Griffin isn't the one behind the controversy!
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Post by seanny on Jun 4, 2014 17:18:21 GMT -5
Today's show kind of established that Will knew that Uncle Vic's gun had been fired after Nick was killed. So he and Will both knew they had their hands on the murder weapon before Sonny returned it to the mansion.
It was nice to see characters who never share scenes with WilSon/Gabi react to the news about the killer.
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Post by seanny on Jun 2, 2014 23:18:02 GMT -5
After all these years Camelia waits until her last days on the show to show that she really can give a good performance. Where has that great acting been all this time. It can't say it was "great", but I was thinking sort of the same thing. Where did this capable actress come from all of a sudden?? I didn't a chance to say so last week but Guy did a really good job with his confession/interrogation scenes opposite KA. I could that he has past experience with these types of scenes because he was more present than lately.
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Post by seanny on May 14, 2014 1:05:15 GMT -5
I can't believe I am saying this but I thought Camila Banus finally gave a noteworthy performance. I was watching her carefully after Nick collapsed in the square and later at the hospital and she did a excellent job of showing the shifting emotions inside Gabi. It was interesting to see her go from being sad about her and Nick not having the happy ending that he always talked about to being glad that Nick's suffering is over and his tortured soul can now be at peace. I'd be really surprise if Gabi was revealed to be not Nick's murderer.
If Gabi did kill Nick, she obviously did not use Victor's gun. Will would have known right away that it had been fired very recently since it would have still been warm by the time he and Sonny arrived back at the apartment.
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Post by seanny on May 9, 2014 15:10:17 GMT -5
Good show today although I could have done without the Jordan/Rafe stuff. Blake was simply amazing! The man has never let me down (neither has FS, KM, BD, JS or LK). He better get an emmy nomination next year! SSH was great today as well. Usually, I find Julie annoying but she was incredibly convincing in her scenes with Nick today. They were so in synch. If was as if they worked together everyday.
I'm loving Ben and Abigail so far -more than I expected to. I don't know how some people can say that they don't have chemistry. It was there in spades today. I consider the firing of JG to be a mistake. Sure he could use some more experience, but lately I have enjoyed his (short) performances over some of the more seasoned actors on the show.
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Post by seanny on May 9, 2014 0:01:07 GMT -5
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Post by seanny on May 8, 2014 17:09:18 GMT -5
The comparisions are simply not fair. Chandler created the character, Guy has little chances of winning the comparision. A recast only shines (at least when he starts in the role like this case) when the new actor is a lot better than the original, something that generally only happens when the original one was really bad, and this is not the case. With the current writting they could recast Will and Sonny with Brad Pitt and George Clooney and the storyline will be equally boring Chandler did not originate Will. There were like 4 actors in the role before him. Also, a good actor can take a so-so script and make it interesting (think Julia Roberts in Erin Brockovich). I found Chandler to be still interesting to watch often when the material for Will was substandard. So far, I've only like Guy's performances when he's acts to the level of good written scenes which of course there has not been much of those at as of late. He is wallpaper in poorly conceived scenes.
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Post by seanny on May 8, 2014 0:43:45 GMT -5
Sorry but i'm a little tired of this. Wilson never was Nuke, they never bust the ratings up. Chandler is a good actor and has his fans but unfortunately he was barely a factor. Wilson storyline was boring from the very beginning, the fact that now is more boring doesn't have nothing to do with the recast, it has to do with the writers putting them in a corner. Give a baby to a young couple usually doesn't help them to have better storylines, but marrying them is the kiss of death. Chandler was more than bored (or at least he seemed really bored during his last performances) and i can't blame him. Right now they are like a pair of boy scouts with nothing more to do than taking care of their child I both agree and disagree with you. Yes. WilSon has been basically boring from the beginning because the show refuses to invest in the characters. However, to say that Chandler "was barely a factor" is just ludicrous. Since when has NATAS and ATAS given an actor 4 consecutive emmy nominations (and 2 wins so far) for just showing up? Yes. Chandler was often bored in his scenes but that was because most of the drivel being written for WilSon is beneath his talent. Personally, I'm glad that Chandler is not currently playing Will because as I said before I believe he lacks the real-life experience to be able to take Will where the character needs to go in the near future. That being said, sadly... Guy Wilson has to go. In the beginning, I was all aboard "let's give the recast a chance" train. I even went around to various sites where people were bashing Guy for his aesthetics before he even aired defending him. However now that a couple of months have past, I have to say that I agree now that GW is a miscast. He just doesn't have the emotional range required for the child of Sami and Lucas. The writers wrote two short scenes for Will last week that any dramatic actor would have effortlessly hit out of the park. Guy failed to do so on both occasions He was flat in one and just okay in the other. I have no doubt in my mind that Chandler would have gone 2-0 with the same material. The role of Will Horton should be graduated to lead especially with Sami and EJ leaving the canvas. The only way this is going to work is if a gorgeous dramatic hunk is hired in place of Guy. In order for Will to be popular, both the actor and the character must appeal strongly to straight women just like James Scott does. I believe Freddie and Chandler do also. They must be able to create "buzz". To me Guy Wilson is the only "barely there" actor in this equation. He's a talent and awesome person, but those traits cannot make up for his shortcomings. He needs to attend some more dramatic arts classes.
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Post by seanny on May 3, 2014 17:36:41 GMT -5
Have you guys seen the promo for next week? Sonny's looking sexy as hell firing a gun.
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Post by seanny on May 3, 2014 15:42:11 GMT -5
I know that Chandler and James aren't matched in acting skill and importance to the show. My point was that the departure of both guys and Ali will continue errode viewers from the show. I think it's short-sighted to ignore fans of Chandler who quit the show over his departure as they have been pretty vocal about it. And god knows, his replacement certainly is not bring any new eyeballs to the show with his lackluster performances as of late. Days is definitely going to need to pull a lot of rabbits out of its hat quickly. I wish one of them would be to (sadly) replace Guy Wilson with a stronger dramatic actor and elevate WilSon to lead characters.
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Post by seanny on May 3, 2014 0:50:07 GMT -5
Wow just read on DR that James Scott taped his last scenes today's. So Day's is losing Sami and EJ. This on the heels of losing Chandler is not good at all for the show. I'm really going miss the uber-sexy Mr. Scott on my screen.
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