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Post by ila on Oct 1, 2012 3:13:10 GMT -5
I like Klaine together too, and if they break up in the next episode I'm pretty sure that they will be back together by the end of the season.
I'm not 100% that they do break up, maybe they have a difficult time through the entire episode but end up still being together. I love drama so, despite what might happen, I'm sure I will enjoy the episode and I'm sure the actors will do good in those heartbreaking scenes and I really look forward to seeing Blaine performing the acoustic version of Teenage Dream.
Actually both Blaine and Kurt would still have storylines on their own without being together, Kurt with his internship and his upcoming dilemma between staying in the fashion business or re-apply to NYADA (because that will happen) and Blaine trying to figure out where he stands in Lima and in school without Kurt.
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Post by ila on Sept 29, 2012 17:37:55 GMT -5
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Post by ila on Sept 28, 2012 10:27:12 GMT -5
With Hollyoaks it is always worthwhile listening to the music as they try really hard to tie up what is happening to the characters: At the beginning there is lucy rose Lines. When Ste is texting she sings ' do you love someone, do you love them all?'. Ste will have to make a choice down the line. He is now enjoying helping Brendan which is what he always wanted to do before but Brendan never allowed him to show his 'love'. As he said in Later he couldn't love. I agree. Sooner or later Ste will have to choose or he will surely lose Doug. As much as I wonder how they will manage to redeam Brendan after Later, I also wonder how they will manage to fix Ste and Doug's relationship. I think that Doug needs to put a little distance between him and Ste and let Ste sort himself out. Because this relationship is making him miserable and unhappy. Ste isn't being a good boyfriend (both Ste nad Doug aren't honestly) and by giving Brendan a gun he acted like an idiot, he even asked what Brendan was going to do with it... I am really looking forward to the end of Stug's involvement with this storyline and see what the storyline will the writers come up with for the pair (if they stay together).
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Post by ila on Sept 27, 2012 7:10:42 GMT -5
Vanessa, you keep saying that Brendan has changed/is changing but I never saw him change. Or better yet, he has changed in HO Later but for the worst. Brendan is not able to control his anger, otherwise he would've never killed his grandma.
I agree with you Diva, with the fact that Brendan's behaviour is now excused by the fact that he was abused when he was a child.
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Post by ila on Sept 27, 2012 5:57:56 GMT -5
You're right Diva, I sometimes forget that the Stendan storyline is just like a fairytale... Brendan, the prince charming Ste, the lady destined to marry the prince and Doug, the evil step-mother Brendan hasn't hit Ste since January. Doesn't that show that he's starting to change? I actally think Doug is the abusive one at the moment. He's trying to control Ste's life and that's wrong. That's because he couldn't, he hasn't been with Ste since January and because Ste finally (seemed to) understand he had to get far away from Brendan as possible in order to be safe/happy. Between Doug and Brendan and their actions you really think Doug is the abusive one??? I've never seen Ste being afraid of Doug or to be with him or to be hitten by him or to get controlled on what he does by Doug.
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Post by ila on Sept 27, 2012 4:27:03 GMT -5
Isn't this what you were saying before he chopped off a dead body? I'm not sure if I would ever want to see him lead the happy life, that same life he prevented people from having. I know it's a soap, but because it is not real, I can hope there's gonna be a small glimmer of justice. Danny Houston was going to kill Ste. I don't condone murder, but i'm not sad he killed him. Nana Brady knew about the abuse and allowed it to continue. He shouldn't have killed her, but i understand why he did. He has suffered enough. I want him to have a chance. Wait, what? Seriously? No one should kill and be understood. So because she didn't stop Brendan's father abusing him Nana deserved to die???
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Post by ila on Sept 27, 2012 4:23:42 GMT -5
How can anyone thing Doug is the one who's putting Ste in danger is beyond me. What has Doug done so far for people to come to this conclusion? Probably him agreeing to help Walker will have his side effects, but up until now he hasn't done ANYTHING, and just talking to Walker is not a reason for people to think he put Ste in danger. Isn't it clear enough that Walker is after Ste because of Brendan??? And Brendan, by not telling Ste that he is in danger, is putting Ste even more in danger. Maybe if Brendan told Ste the truth, he and Doug would've gone on a vacation as Brendan suggested or at least Ste would've been more careful when around Walker or when wondering around the village while looking for Bobby... Cheerios, in a part of your last post you said that Ste really knows Brendan, but I slightly disagree. I too think that Ste is the only one who saw a caring side of Brendan but he is way far from knowing completely who Brendan is and what he is capable of (as we saw in Later). Another part I disagree with you about is the fact that Ste would be a lot like Brendan if it weren't for Amy and the kids. We saw Ste recognizing he was a bad person and willing to change to be a better person and a good father to his kids, and he did manage to change. Brendan knows is messed up, but isn't willing to change not even to be a role model for his own kids. He doesn't have any remorse for all the bad things he has done, killing Danny, abusing Ste, killing (almost, but he doesn't know that) Mick, killing his grandma, cutting Mick's body into pieces, didn't he also put Pete into a wheelchair? and these are only the worst things he has done, who knows what he did before HO. He can be miserable, alone and scared as he is now but you won't certainly listen me say "poor Brendan". The situation he is in now is something he should've expected to happen sooner or later, given his actions. Really, this constant sanctification of Brendan that I read in comments or on blogs has become so annoying. That said, I think Doug was out of line when saying he was glad Brendan is in a wheelchair but I did agree with him when he said that Brendan is cancerous because he is. Tell me one time Ste was safe by being close to Brendan as I don't recall any. Not only Ste, but everyone who gets close to Brendan sooner or later will be hurt or in danger because of Brendan: Cheryl and Joel are a good example. I'm sorry, but i completely disagree. Brendan is not cancerous. Mercy is. He knows he did bad things in the past and he did show remorse. You should know that if you saw how he reacted after he killed Danny Houston. Ans with Pete it was a car accident. He is only trying to protect Ste. I think he didn't tell him about Walker because he didn't want to scare him. I think Brendan can change. And may i add, i'm finding Doug very creepy these days? He's so controlling and whiny. Sorry, but when Brendan killed Danny I didn't see one bit of remorse in Brendan. Even when he talked to Mitzeee in the car before she got arrested for stabbing Mercedes, he told her something like that she would've remembered what she did every minute of every day obviously referring to his own experience. There's a different between not forgetting that he killed Danny and regretting doing it. I don't remember a lot of the story with Pete, I have to rewatch it to believe it was really an accident. About Doug, creepy how? Besides, if what Doug is doing is being controlling, what would you call what Brendan does then? Stalking, mobbing, bullying... Oh wait, there is a term for it: abusing...
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Post by ila on Sept 27, 2012 3:37:56 GMT -5
How can anyone thing Doug is the one who's putting Ste in danger is beyond me. What has Doug done so far for people to come to this conclusion? Probably him agreeing to help Walker will have his side effects, but up until now he hasn't done ANYTHING, and just talking to Walker is not a reason for people to think he put Ste in danger.
Isn't it clear enough that Walker is after Ste because of Brendan??? And Brendan, by not telling Ste that he is in danger, is putting Ste even more in danger. Maybe if Brendan told Ste the truth, he and Doug would've gone on a vacation as Brendan suggested or at least Ste would've been more careful when around Walker or when wondering around the village while looking for Bobby...
Cheerios, in a part of your last post you said that Ste really knows Brendan, but I slightly disagree. I too think that Ste is the only one who saw a caring side of Brendan but he is way far from knowing completely who Brendan is and what he is capable of (as we saw in Later).
Another part I disagree with you about is the fact that Ste would be a lot like Brendan if it weren't for Amy and the kids. We saw Ste recognizing he was a bad person and willing to change to be a better person and a good father to his kids, and he did manage to change. Brendan knows is messed up, but isn't willing to change not even to be a role model for his own kids. He doesn't have any remorse for all the bad things he has done, killing Danny, abusing Ste, killing (almost, but he doesn't know that) Mick, killing his grandma, cutting Mick's body into pieces, didn't he also put Pete into a wheelchair? and these are only the worst things he has done, who knows what he did before HO. He can be miserable, alone and scared as he is now but you won't certainly listen me say "poor Brendan". The situation he is in now is something he should've expected to happen sooner or later, given his actions.
Really, this constant sanctification of Brendan that I read in comments or on blogs has become so annoying. That said, I think Doug was out of line when saying he was glad Brendan is in a wheelchair but I did agree with him when he said that Brendan is cancerous because he is. Tell me one time Ste was safe by being close to Brendan as I don't recall any. Not only Ste, but everyone who gets close to Brendan sooner or later will be hurt or in danger because of Brendan: Cheryl and Joel are a good example.
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Post by ila on Sept 26, 2012 7:10:13 GMT -5
Thanks for the spoiler pics, candyflossuk! I wonder what brings them back together, if they will be back together. Maybe in the heat of the moment when Chris comes out as innocent from the trial, they share a kiss or something...
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Post by ila on Sept 26, 2012 3:37:59 GMT -5
I think Walker ultimately wants to hurt Brendan, not put him into jail. He made it pretty clear that he is going to hurt Brendan the worst way possible by hurting the people he loves, just as (in Walker's opinion) Brendan has done to him.
wilson4ever, I wouldn't worry if I were you. I'm pretty sure neither Ste nor Doug will die, maybe Declan.
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Post by ila on Sept 25, 2012 9:22:12 GMT -5
The problem is that Walker doesn't want justice but he wants revenge. I think Walker sees Cam as an innocent, as innocent as Ste, Cheryl and Declan are. His only goal is to make Brendan suffer just as much as he is suffering by hurting the ones Brendan loves.
I don't consider Walker as a cop anymore and I don't think he considers himself one either. He already went through all kinds of extremes in order to mess with Brendan, and now we also have to add the fact that Brendan knows who he really is and what he wants from him, now he has to be one step ahead of Brendan if he wants to complete his revenge. I honestly don't think he would have second thoughts on killing either Declan or Ste, but I think the only way he is going to stop is if either Brendan or him die.
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Post by ila on Sept 25, 2012 2:21:04 GMT -5
Though I'm annoyed with Doug for helping Walker. I don't think it's because Doug hates Brendan and fearful of Brendan and Ste. I think Walker tells Doug he's an undercover cop and lies to Doug, tricking Doug into thinking he's doing the right thing. I thought that too. And it fits why Ste will be angry at Doug for being in danger. There must be something they are keeping secret, it is too obvious (at least for people who watch closely HO and follow the actors on twitter) that Ste and Cheryl won't die, just as they knew Brendan wouldn't die in Later. I'd add Walker to the list of people possibly dying, too.
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Post by ila on Sept 24, 2012 7:27:21 GMT -5
Thanks, diva for the heads-up. Ste blaming Doug for being in danger is beyond me... I know I still have to see the circumstances and why he thinks Doug is to blame but I don't really blame Doug for wanting a break from their relationship if this is how he gets treated. Not commenting about the almost Stendan kiss because same old same old..
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Post by ila on Sept 24, 2012 2:42:22 GMT -5
Now we know that besides Ste and Declan, also Cheryl is going to be in danger. I can see Walker breaking down Brendan once and for all with a scene a la Spiderman (when he has to choose if to save his grandma or the love of his life Mary Jane). Walker has figured that the way to finish Brendan is if he hurts the people he loves the most: Ste, Declan and Cheryl. On the other hand, I'm confused about Doug and the picture of him looking like he was about to leave. Is he going to leave anyway or was it only a false spoiler to keep the proposal a secret? Wasn't there a spoiler of a crushed Ste because Doug left him, finding comfort in Brendan's arms?
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Post by ila on Sept 21, 2012 17:20:25 GMT -5
Agree with you on the missed opportunity of killing one of the teens...
Brendan killed nana too??? We can add serial killer to the list of things Brendan has become, can't we?!
If we didn't already know that Emmett is still filming, I'd be 100% sure that this would be the perfect moment for the Brendan era to end. As you said, I really don't know how they will manage to redeem him after all he has done. And I don't think a person like Brendan deserves redemption at all.
EDIT: Did Brendan really give Cheryl pieces of Mick's body to eat? I know this probably isn't one of the highlights of the episode but eww..
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Post by ila on Sept 21, 2012 15:57:23 GMT -5
Andrew, what a tool!
I had a bad feeling that Aidan would have regretted helping Andrew. And I have a bad feeling that Aidan will sooner or later lose his job or get investigated.
I was wondering, since Aidan is a nurse, does he really have to respect a medical rule for which he can't tell anyone (a doctor) if he knows someone is sick?
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Post by ila on Sept 21, 2012 15:48:41 GMT -5
I don't think that the marriage will be the thing that will ruin Stug as a couple, we don't even know if they do get married.
I agree with you, cheerios, that before rushing into a marriage the couple needs to get strong first but it is different for every couple. You talked about your sister's experience but, I have a cousin who was with a girl for 9 years (2 years of them spent living together) and when they finally got married they separated a year after.
For me what's wrong about this proposal is that, neither Doug nor Ste are sure about their relationship. They aren't being honest with their feelings and with each other, what kind of ground is that for a marriage? Do they really (especially Doug) that getting married will solve their issues?
We already saw Ste going back to Brendan as soon as he felt alone with his family departure and in the last couple of episodes we saw Doug doubting Ste's love for him and his involvement with Brendan. I'd never decide to marry someone if I was in Doug or Ste's situation
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Post by ila on Sept 21, 2012 15:05:06 GMT -5
Doug proposed to Ste? (I'd add a disgusted emoticon if there was one at this point..)
I can safely say I don't understand a thing the writers decide to do with the storylines and I only watch the Stug, Brendan, Walker related storylines... I wonder how the other storylines are.. They are making it really hard for me to stay interested in Stug and Brendan.
Did Smithwick get fired or did she resigned? I hadn't read anything about a change of EP? Is Brian Kirkwood the EP pre-Smithwick? The one who introduced Brendan as a new character?
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Post by ila on Sept 21, 2012 3:39:45 GMT -5
Wow, the Bralker sex scene seems really dark and twisted even only reading your descriptions. I don't know if I'll be able to watch it because I'm really sensible over rape scenes.
Anyway, I was wondering if there's more about Walker we don't know than "just" his brother's death for him to be willing to do all that he is doing for his revenge. Maybe Brendan did not just give Cam the drugs and is directly responsible for his situation...
Walker is a cop and he should know that at the end of the day it's his brother's fault if he ended in hospital, Cam could've had taken the drugs from anyone.
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Post by ila on Sept 20, 2012 7:16:47 GMT -5
Even if Walker is the one who actually killed Mick, Brendan is not certainly the good guy in all of this.
I agree with you Vanessa that Walker is willing to do everything for his revenge against Brendan. What surprised me about Walker is that he still considers himself a cop, even before suffocating Mick.
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Post by ila on Sept 18, 2012 7:37:54 GMT -5
We come back to Cheryl identifying a body. In the pic she looks scared to look. They wouldn't ask her to identify Walker as he is a policeman and they know who he is! Oh no! That leaves either Declan or Ste. Either of them would devastate Brendan! We know for sure that Kieron is still working, so we can safely say that Ste won't die.
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Post by ila on Sept 18, 2012 7:37:00 GMT -5
We come back to Cheryl identifying a body. In the pic she looks scared to look. They wouldn't ask her to identify Walker as he is a policeman and they know who he is! Well maybe it is as it was first guessed and Cheryl somehow has to identify Brendan's body. Maybe after the explotion they will think the body they find is Brendan's but he is highly unrecognizable, hence Cheryl's identification.
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Post by ila on Sept 18, 2012 5:37:00 GMT -5
New thought! Maybe neither Ste or Declan die, but Walker does...
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Post by ila on Sept 18, 2012 5:13:02 GMT -5
Oh God! I surely didn't see this coming. I actually thought (and I was a little disappointed by that) that Declan came back only for those few episodes the past month and that he left to not come back. I'm sorry that Declan is going to die, because he could've had a potential maybe for a future in HO but on the other hand I'm thrilled that Walker kind of gets his revenge (if Wlaker is the one who kills Declan). Let me get this straight.. Do we know for sure that Brendan will fake his death? Will he be off screen for a while? Will Walker know Brendan is not dead? Will Declan die while Brendan is hiding? My love for this show is back again! I love when I have tons of questions in my head that I know will be answered only when the episodes air!
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Post by ila on Sept 14, 2012 7:28:26 GMT -5
Yeah, when Cheryl will be too heartbroken for the loss while regretting all the times she "ended it for good" with her brother instead of helping him become a better person. When in reality she should've been done with him the first time...
Anyway, I had an idea on how to interpret the life changing decision spoiler... Since we now know that the "Stendan moment in the kitchen" spoiler was nothing basically I'm starting to think that the Doug's spoiler about making a life changing decision will turn out to be nothing serious just like the Stendan related spoiler. Maybe Doug will decide to take a break from his relationship with Ste or he will go away for a week..
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