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Post by iam4guys on Jan 11, 2011 19:36:19 GMT -5
what I still don't get though.. how can you have sex with a woman, if you have gay feelings.. I mean how will this thing ( you know) get up haha to even have sex? It won't work with me..
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Post by iam4guys on Jan 11, 2011 19:32:55 GMT -5
yes they ruined him for me too.. but.. next weeks storylines seem to be a bit promising for something interesting.. I think this nights episode will be hard to watch with all the choking etcetera. I hope we still get to see some regrets from edwin
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Post by iam4guys on Jan 11, 2011 19:04:52 GMT -5
so why will he humiliate himself even more by bidding on edwin at the auction later on? there must have happened something otherwise he would not dare to do that!
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Post by iam4guys on Jan 11, 2011 18:51:31 GMT -5
I don't understand how some of you can think just because Edwin had sex with Wiet, and I don't care how times they did it, that it means he isn't gay or that he is bi. It's called a SMOKESCREEN! Wiet should start sporting a tatoo on her arm that reads, "I'm Edwin's BEARD!" Edwin thinks being with Wiet proves to others who may have suspected, and I believe his mother knows and that his father had some inklings, he might be gay. I also think that the guy he got his tatoo in remembrance of wasn't just a friend but that Edwin was in love with him and probably visa versa. And that he probably died tragically and that Lucas is the first guy since him that Edwin has been interested in, even though right now he is being the epitome of a self-hating asshole. As for Edwin seeming to enjoy his time with Wiet, why wouldn't he? Everything with her is easy and he can keep pretending to be a straight guy and not have to deal with all that comes along with being a gay man. I actually don't see the reasons why we should keep believing Edwin is 100% gay, but after all it's just a matter of interpretation (for example, now i could even believe that he has something like multiple personality disorder, seeing how he acts, etc). What bothers me is that in what is supposed to be a gay storyline the girl has taken center stage and the openly gay character keeps being humiliated as usual. this I find very disturbing, as for the rest, they are just opinions... i agree to that too.. Wiet now is the centreperson at the moment.. and Lucas is the one that is humiliated and get's nothing ( at the moment)
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Post by iam4guys on Jan 11, 2011 18:37:00 GMT -5
I don't understand how some of you can think just because Edwin had sex with Wiet, and I don't care how times they did it, that it means he isn't gay or that he is bi. It's called a SMOKESCREEN! Wiet should start sporting a tatoo on her arm that reads, "I'm Edwin's BEARD!" Edwin thinks being with Wiet proves to others who may have suspected, and I believe his mother knows and that his father had some inklings, he might be gay. I also think that the guy he got his tatoo in remembrance of wasn't just a friend but that Edwin was in love with him and probably visa versa. And that he probably died tragically and that Lucas is the first guy since him that Edwin has been interested in, even though right now he is being the epitome of a self-hating asshole. As for Edwin seeming to enjoy his time with Wiet, why wouldn't he? Everything with her is easy and he can keep pretending to be a straight guy and not have to deal with all that comes along with being a gay man. SOOO TRUE! You are right.. okay my opinion changes from time to time, but you are really true. We see him in bed and we think we know it.. but small things like that tattoo explanation, him smiling when Bianca does not like rude language in her house.. him looking confused thinking when Lucas confronts him with his real feelings..
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Post by iam4guys on Jan 11, 2011 17:46:04 GMT -5
if he continues this way to Lucas and if he decides to stay with Wiet than I hope they move to another country haha and when he is ready he can divorce and leave her there in Australia or wherever and come back for Lucas haha
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Post by iam4guys on Jan 11, 2011 17:36:19 GMT -5
bsgnut - when your mail arrives the storyline for Lucas and Edwin has already been written long before, and all we can do is wait... and have patience!
since this new possible coming out story I am completely addicted to gtst ! Even though it is hard to watch episodes like this.. and I am beginning to have less sympathy for Edwin at the moment.. but hope it can still change.. but he really needs to beg for an excuse because Lucas is done with him at the moment!
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Post by iam4guys on Jan 11, 2011 17:17:21 GMT -5
oh yes, Mark you are right! I forgot that! How do you feel about this new storyline? What do you think happens and what do you think about him going to bed with Wiet? it does not make sense, don't you think?
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Post by iam4guys on Jan 11, 2011 17:10:55 GMT -5
we have had some gay related things in the past. We have had the brother of charlie, Morris that was played by 3 different guys now. The first guy did have some gay-ish storyline but he stopped quite earlier because at that moment, this guy was having gayfeelings at the same time he was doing the show, so he could not deal with that. Later on he became a good actor who plays several roles. Later this Morris character (3rd one) has a one night stand with a couple ( a guy and girl) and he was bi. But there has been only one thing with a guy, ( one episode) and it did not work out and later he became Nina love interest and they got a relationship for sometime. He is in jail now ( fictive)
A long time ago, years ago, there was a character called Stan, played by a now very famous impersonator in Holland, and he was seduced by a gay couple.. not so nice ones, and it did not work out. Oh and is has been a long long time ago, but Laura has had a Lesbian affaire with a woman, and Charlie had something lesbian with Isabella in the past, and of course we had Isabella and the sister of Dex
So Lucas is the first stable gay character and he really needed a stable gay relationship. So that is one of the reasons that this bouwhuis family has come into the show. And I still think and hope Edwin and Lucas will be a stable couple in the end
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Post by iam4guys on Jan 11, 2011 16:42:03 GMT -5
robertn800 - for a soap opera that seems to be interesting stuff.. showing cruise-areas and Edwin sneaking out... oh please not, don't want a storyline like that.. and please please no pregnancy! I think you are totally right, Wiet is not the smartest thing on earth and Edwin has not ever had sex before so I don't know if they used protection haha - no this is not funny at all If someone acted to me like Edwin did I would back off for a long time.. so if there is an auction next week I really doubt Edwin's behavior has changed and I really doubt his feelings for Lucas so soon...
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Post by iam4guys on Jan 11, 2011 16:32:29 GMT -5
last time lucas had someone I did not buy it at all, no attraction , no chemistry.. and apparantly the writers saw that too so they made him a psychokiller in the end. And now there is Edwin, played by Raynor who does a wonderful job portraying someone that is mysterious, fulnerable, sensitive and who really has chemistry with Lucas.. and who is very handsome please let this work... in the end in ... may? or even later.. ?
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Post by iam4guys on Jan 11, 2011 16:27:15 GMT -5
I agree with that .. but I really feel sorry for it, because is it so hard to bring a gay relationship on screen? Straight relationships are everywhere, in every soap, why is it so difficult to bring a gay relationship to show that is also normal and the world does not exist of heterosexual people only.. I think it is really a letdown.. but I still think, because we know this, that they will be a couple in the end. And yes, would we not have known this, we would watch this storyline with a complete other perspective..
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Post by iam4guys on Jan 11, 2011 16:20:16 GMT -5
Do we know for sure Edwin is actually sleeping with Wiet? The shortie left it ambiguous. Was there something in today's episode? yes there was, we see them going on top of each other and somewhat later there is this scene where they wake up and both smile and Wiet is in heaven and Edwin says he does not regret and is also happy... But all in all.. I don't know how it is with you guys, but it really makes me upset this whole storyline. And yes it is a soapopera but it feels like so close.. I mean like we are experiencing this whole thing.. I cannot stand how Edwin reacted to Lucas and how it seems like the writers want to please the heterosexual audience by turning him hetero.. as it seems! I agree that the Owl was something that has a deeper meaning, as if that guy, Jeroen, meant a lot more.. and we all know what.. At the moment I have trouble liking Edwin, although I do understand his struggle but he should not behave like this. And if Lucas and Edwin are going to be a couple.. when in the world will that happen? I mean, he already slept with Wiet ( please don't let her be pregnant aaargh) and he seems happy with it. For someone as shy as he is or was, he acts way too confident now, too happy and I can't stand it to be honest. I really really lik(ed) Edwin but now.... Let's hope something happens next week.. but I feel like shutting down my tv this week because I have had it with this storyline! and the Suriname one was really boring and bad acting ( the guys from the bergendal resort)...
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