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Post by iam4guys on Jan 25, 2012 20:32:10 GMT -5
they cannot bring Edwin back of course! He died and tomorrow we will see him in his coffin.. how much more do we need to know Edwin really died? They can't bring him back, unless they bring him back to do some things on earth before going to heaven,... Raynor himself already made jokes about it, that he could come back as his evil twinbrother for instance and he joked with Ferry about a zombiestoryline,.. No we have to accept that he won't come back in the show..
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Post by iam4guys on Jan 25, 2012 18:45:51 GMT -5
Maybe some of you already did, but let Raynor know you are not satisfied with GTST's decision writing him out of the show and show him your gratitude by signing this petition! We already have more than 3000 people who signed it, but let it grow to a lot more! www.petities24.com/edwin_mag_niet_uit_gtstDear Gtst Fan, after so many people have spread their displeasure about the fact of the forced departure of Edwin on the soap gtst, it is time to let our voices be heard! Gtst has been made for the fans and Edwin has been one of the most popular characters, therefore we find it incomprehensible that the writers have written out this very popular and beloved character of the show! Please sign this petition to let them hear YOUR voice, maybe we can change the minds of the writers/makers to let him return....even so by signing this petition we are showing our support and gratitude to the actor that played Edwin. So don't wait any longer and sign! Thanks a lot!!!! *Naam (name) *Achternaam (last name) *Plaats (hometown) *Land (country) *E-mailadres (email address) Uw handtekening openbaar maken? (make your signature publicly) JaNee (yes NO) it is important that you can only sign once, because it is based on your ip-address.
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Post by iam4guys on Jan 22, 2012 18:25:27 GMT -5
I agree.. and what message do they give to the outsideworld? Well , for example, I read on a Dutch forum some negative posts about the friday's episode and most of all against Ludwin, and esspecially Lucas and gays in general. I know we don't have to care for haters, but someone wrote: I don't care for them , and clearly the gtst writers neither, killing off 2 gays in short time!
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Post by iam4guys on Jan 22, 2012 11:54:52 GMT -5
Thank you, iam4guys . I thought the translation was good and helpful. I know translation work is time-consuming and can be hard. I did some German-to-English last year (AWZ spoilers, mostly), but since I'm not fluent with German it wasn't easy . Anyway, I think I'm going to wait until later today to watch that clip. Thank you, and I am dutch too, so I know what I write;-) and yes it is time consuming, but I liked doing it
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Post by iam4guys on Jan 22, 2012 11:23:18 GMT -5
Ya.. I assumed it was a translation from someone who isn't used to conversational English... but I got the gist of it! It took me awhile to get through watching Mark's "Edwin death" episode. I'd watch... go grab a cup of tea... I'd watch a lil more and then grab a bagel to eat... then I'd watch a lil more and then watch TV for a bit.. I just wanted to put off watching seeing Edwin's last breath with Mark's translation.... and thank you I think my translation was not bad at all.. I spend my time translating an article for international viewers on facebook or here, and then I get such a reaction?
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Post by iam4guys on Jan 22, 2012 7:41:39 GMT -5
zappen.blog.nl/soaps/2012/01/21/vertrek-raynor-arkenbout-uit-gtst-niet-vrijwilligRAYNOR ARKENBOUT LEAVING GTST NOT HIS OWN WILL He was only out of the closet for a few months, but now Edwin Bouwhuis, played by Raynor Arkenbout, is out of the cast. Friday we could see that Edwin blew his last breath because of the Ebola virus. It was done by the writers. Not Raynor's choice, he had loved to be in the popular soap for a long time. To RTL Boulevard he tells; It's is really a bummer. I would have loved to be here so much longer. It is tragic and a real pity. but the Ludwin-hype that always was, will now stay like it was. It did not go on, so people would think.. oh no there are those chewed out ( been there done that ) gays again" Things have to stay fun. Raynor portrayed a controversial character. Edwin felt in love with Lucas and because of that, had to face his own sexual preference. That was quite a struggle on itself, but above that his father declined his homosexual preference. And if that was not enough, his boyfriend Lucas came in a coma, for months long. Edwin felt in love with with someone else, right at the moment Lucas came out of his coma. That leads again to struggle in his emotions. And just when everything seems to calm down, the Ebola virus strucks. The actor had sentimental last recordingtimes. It was crying..wether the camera was on or off. Cynthia Abma (Bianca) and Ferry Doedens (Lucas) helped me with that. Every chance we had, we cuddled and kissed. It was terrible, I have never cried in a week that much. It turned out that Arkenbout had to change his fysical appearance because of the soap: a clean cut face and short cut hair, was the plan. His facial hair was the first thing he let grow again. "I am proud on my moustache" he tweeted on twitter.
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Post by iam4guys on Jan 21, 2012 13:57:18 GMT -5
the venting is also because it is such a shock and bitter pill Edwin will not be in the soap anymore.. and the couple Ludwin is over.. People will change their opinion later on, when the show moves on, and who knows what they have in store for Lucas.. we will see. I won't stop watching!
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Post by iam4guys on Jan 21, 2012 13:38:20 GMT -5
exec. producer tweeted - Gister hoogste kijkcijfer van de laatste jaren gehaald 2.252.000 #gtst Daar mag je als @raynorarkenbout trots op zijn! 6 uur geleden
Yesterday we had the highest ratings since years.. 2.252.000 people . That's something you can be proud of Raynor Arkenbout!
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Post by iam4guys on Jan 20, 2012 20:39:12 GMT -5
I think I'm going to wait until Mark posts the translated clips to watch. I'm very curious, but I don't think I want to watch multiple times. Only time will tell whether Lucas ends up in a "better" relationship. Given the way they handled Edwin since day one, I'm not encouraged. But, if Ferry stays long enough, they'll have a chance to surprise me. Bring it on! By the way, is there any word in those interviews and articles about why Raynor left? I suspect I'll never get an answer regarding Raynor's departure that tells me what I want to know, but it doesn't hurt to ask. Reading this reminds me of all the posts you made trying to convince one & all that Lucas & Noud were destined to be a couple LOL, I thought exactly the same thing ;D Yes there is..On his twitter he said that people are confused after his last interview and think it was Raynor's own reason leaving the show, however Ranyor left the show because of story-technical reasons ( meaning - they did not have enough storyline for him anymore or could not make up more storylines for him anymore) He is now focusing on working behind the screens again. Currently he is busy with directing movies/series.
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Post by iam4guys on Jan 20, 2012 17:26:45 GMT -5
Final interview with Raynor Arkenbout , About the storyline, about his character Edwin, his dyingscenes etc. 12 min. long
www.rtl.nl/xl/#/u/3d5a3d98-0454-4c9d-84b0-569bb91b2c51/
[/url] He thanks his dutch and international viewers.. and keep on watching the show.. I am not finished with it at all! maybe Mark can translate this? I have tried but I need the best software for it. And it is 12 minutes long
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Post by iam4guys on Jan 20, 2012 15:24:46 GMT -5
Raynor already told on his twitter he is leaving the show and is moving to working behind the screens again. he thanked all people because of all the sweet messages he got. A better thankingword will come later.
Raynor's last day on screen, in terms of acting, was today. I don't know if we will see his funeral, I think he really deserves a proper farewell. All our theories about machines, coma, serum.. it's over. Sad but true
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Post by iam4guys on Jan 20, 2012 15:01:38 GMT -5
so sad that after months I make a new video, and it has to end like this..
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Post by iam4guys on Jan 19, 2012 20:28:32 GMT -5
i also want to add - wait for Mondays episode before you already are convinced Edwin is dead. I am not convinced yet!
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Post by iam4guys on Jan 19, 2012 18:19:59 GMT -5
they will soon find out , that as soon it is really confirmed Edwin dies.. a lot of Ludwinfans will stop watching. I know that is stupid since Lucas is a wonderful character too, But let's face it, with edwin they formed a wonderful couple and I hoped for so much more for them. Now the weddding will never come.. Sorry I am just pissed... and very sad
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Post by iam4guys on Jan 19, 2012 16:39:50 GMT -5
if Anton still does illegal things without telling the rest it can Ila. So I have to see next monday's episode to accept this. I just can't accept this. And if it is really true I sure want to know why Raynor has to leave the show. I hope they have a very good reason for it. It breaks my heart watching this episode..
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Post by iam4guys on Jan 19, 2012 16:26:27 GMT -5
Mark you maybe convinced it is all over. But there is still no real confirmation and what happened in todays episode can only be confirmed when we see Monday's episode. So before people in here are going to leave. don't ! I am still not convinced everything is over, just ain't I think anton will try the serum on Edwin in private, somewhere secluded, after they have reanimaeted him. That is my point of view. Unless RTL boulevard will have a topic about it tomorrow or it could be they do that on monday. Watching todays episode was quite a deal. I have to say Ferry and also Raynor deserve credits for their actingskills. Esspecially ferry who played enormously well! He deserves the soap award for what I have seen in this episode!!
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Post by iam4guys on Jan 18, 2012 7:01:15 GMT -5
I agree with you guys that all signs point to Edwin being dead as a doornail but I must say I'm baffled by the light tone of these tweets and by the RTL Boulevard piece. Killing off such a young character after only a year on the show is a very serious matter. If they do follow through with what the spoilers suggest, this is a very odd approach to take in my opinion. Maybe they are going for maximum shock value, but they are setting themselves up for a serious fan backlash in my opinion. Hey Guys I want to add one more thing; Sylvia has been tweeting with Kennard Bos for quite a long time. He knows she is totally into the ludwin storyline and that she really wants to know what is gonna happen next. The light tone in his tweets sound like he wants to comfort her, like - just keep on watching..don't worry I won't let you down , because some wonderful weeks ahead. And again my theory: Yes someone will die on Friday. And it could be Edwin. But who says he is really going to die! Because of the illegal things Anton wants to do to save his son and other lives he might bring out the news Edwin died, but in the meanwhile transport him to a secret location where he can be treated with the illegal syrum. In monday's spoiler it says that Anton does break all the rules of the hospital. Say, that Edwin died on Friday.. why would a broken father on Monday suddenly break all rules of the hospital? Only if it was for a very good reason - which is - to save his son! If Edwin already died on Friday I don't see Anton suddenly break all rules of the hospital.. because for his son it is already too late.. I think for the sake of not loosing his job and still work on the illegal treatment Anton has to fake Edwin's dying and asks his family to lie along with him. That could be a reason for Sjoerd saying his father is insensitive, that could be the reason for tension between Anton and Bianca. Meanwhile we have another spoiler that week. Lucas goes against Anton and he does not accept that. What if Lucas went to hospital.. where is Edwin? I want to see him one more time.. I need to say goodbye.. And Anton is vague and Edwin is gone and Lucas gets desperate. Thus leading him to search like everywhere but he cannot find him etc. Just saying - the spoilers seem to lead to Edwin dying, but the light tweets and the play on rtl boulevard and the fact that Raynor is still so young, just came into the show and is one of the viewer's favorites and part of the viewer's favorite couple - Ludwin. Why would they kill him? Can it be that Raynor has a obliged break , just as Ferry had?
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Post by iam4guys on Jan 17, 2012 10:21:52 GMT -5
We need some good news in these days and it seems there is!!!!!!!
A good friend of mine, Sylvia, from LudwinLunatics asked the Executive Producer of gtst on twitter, if Friday really someone dies:
Sylvia: Kennard er gaat er echt iemand dood geen twijfel over mogelijk? Kennard Bos: kan er helaas niet veel meer over zeggen... Sylvia: dan kan ik er helaas verder niets meer over vragen.... Kennard Bos: hahahaha, blijf nou maar gewoon lekker kijken. Ik beloof je, worden mooie weken!
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sylvia; Kennard will there really be someone dying, no doubt about that? Kennard Bos: can't tell much about it unfortunately Sylvia: than unfortunately I can't ask anything about it anymore.. Kennard Bos: hahaha,, just keep on watching.. I promise you.. it will be wonderful weeks!
Of course he won't do this if he wasn't meaning this and he wanted to make her happy with some good news, knowing she was of course anxious to know if Edwin was next on the list...
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Post by iam4guys on Jan 7, 2012 14:33:42 GMT -5
HQ75 wrote: All this random posting of spoilers is VERY confusing. Can't we just let Mark post spoilers like he usually does in the spoilers thread and then we discuss them here. It's super confusing to have things all over the place. I know every one is upset and dying to know stuff but it just makes it very hard to follow or know what to rely upon. Mark seems to be very consistent with posting new spoilers as they come out. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Usually the spoilers come out for a period of two weeks, but recently some people found more spoilers for even more weeks in advance since they found a way to find these spoilers on tvgids.nl. That is why we now have so much spoilers. But they are all true All the spoilers Mark posted and the new ones I just posted.
I posted the source of the spoilers beneath my spoilers, so what else do you need to see that this is these are real spoilers? These spoilers are completely genuine and to be found on the Dutch official tvgids site, where Mark got his spoilers from too. Official spoilers are always to be found there or on the official gtst forum. Every spoiler has its own link on tvgids.nl On tvgids all spoilers are posted as they get them from gtst. They are in a database on that site and you can find them there. Not just some random spoilers, but the official ones.
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Post by iam4guys on Jan 7, 2012 11:31:10 GMT -5
no spoilers from gtst are usually to come out each week in the tvguide, www.tvgids.nl is a well known tvguide online. You can usually only walk forward for 3 days, so what's happening in the upcoming days. but all the spoilers for the upcoming weeks are already in their database. Some people found out, including me, how to dig into the database, just by changing numbers in the addressbar. That is how I found them in the end. February 10th is as far as I could come, because everything after that failed..
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Post by iam4guys on Jan 7, 2012 11:03:09 GMT -5
yes and it seems that they want to focus on the new Turkish girls in the show and the Sjors/Bing Sjoerd /Rikki storyline. And as we can all see Rikki got her baby back after all.. Noud is still alive and so is Nina and Lucas. Lu dwin is over
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Post by iam4guys on Jan 7, 2012 10:38:05 GMT -5
last official spoilers I could find on tvgids I could find are: February 9th:Ludo and Janine find the firebrigade, police and ambulances at their house. What has happened? Danny becomes angry at Bing because the way he treats Sjors. Lorena's big hairshow seems to fail since her topmodel does not come (calls off) and Nina proposes Nuran to get to Danny source: www.tvgids.nl/programma/12177012February 10thAysen is shocked when she finds Nuran and Danny together. Because of that she goes against Danny. Lorena is doing everything she can to win her bet with Jack. Rikki is really annoyed when Sjoerd asks his mother for babyhelp source: www.tvgids.nl/programma/12177017sorry If I translated some parts not well, Mark is the expert in this,,but I think it comes pretty close to what was written ;-)
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Post by iam4guys on Jan 7, 2012 9:35:11 GMT -5
I agree with you Nina! It is such a cheap and easy way to get rid of characters you don't want to have in the show anymore, or the ones they think of are not of any use in the show. So ...bam,.. the virus.... A moped accident had indeed been a much better way, and a kind of leaving that stays really true to Edwin's character, since he loves riding his moped.
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Post by iam4guys on Jan 7, 2012 8:10:25 GMT -5
hm Mark .. still no Edwin and lucas needs to be cheered up... how did you find that spoiler?
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Post by iam4guys on Jan 7, 2012 7:57:28 GMT -5
About the tweet of the angry fan:
Considering the way it was written - in bad dutch - and the rest of it - it is a very young girl , probably around 14 or something who should spend more time on Dutch classes and who is in desperate need for help as she can't see the difference between real world and soap. Everon, the actor playing Bing was not scared at all from that tweet. He laughed it away:
Translated from the Telegraaf -article with Everon about the threat:
DIT GAAT ECHT TE VER RT @ambervanzanten: @everonhooi ik ga jou egt doden als je zo door gaat in gtst dus beter ga je normaal doen," (translated as - I am gonna kill you when you continue in gtst.. so you better act normal - wrote the angry fan on twitter)
Despite the icecold death-threat, the actor stays calm. Everon has even a wise tip for the girl: you are a bit confused with reality and fiction, sweetheart.. if I were you I would go and search for help
Things become clear soon that it is all because of Rikki's baby. "You are an asshole..stupid.. and I swear when I see you that I am gonna do you something.. the baby is Rikki's not yours! - tweeted the female fan.
In dutch most popular soap opera, gtst it is Bing who has adopted Rikki and Sjoerd's baby. But since Rikki recently changed her opinion about wanting the baby back, she has trouble/fight with Sjors and Bing.
The actor playing Bing, is not impressed by the threat. Wearing my bulletproof jacket.. Everon's latest tweet was now I can walk out the door safely ! ;-)
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