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Post by iam4guys on Jan 23, 2011 14:04:42 GMT -5
What is there to be worried about? So what if it seems at times to you that there is an attraction between Wiet and Edwin. It still doesn't change the fact he's gay, he's in the closet deeply, and he is blatantly using Wiet as his beard. As for him arguing with his father because of Wiet, Anton probably figured out that they were high and is pissed off and blames Wiet for it. As he should for the majority since she did provide drugs in the first place. The only other thing that boogles my mind is why is it so difficult for you to get the semantics of some gay men using women as beards and projecting a loving type relationship with them? Gay men have been doing it forever. Some even go as far as to marry and have children with them. That is where the term on the downlow comes from. It still doesn't change the fact they're gay and living a lie. Something Lucas tried to warn Edwin about and what he doesn't want to end up happening to him. Sorry I am not desperate but I hope we will have a stable gay relationship in gtst. It has not been done before and meanwhile there are enough stable straight relationships in the series. That's why. ANd when I read all these reviews, everyone has his opinion and sometimes I think yes you are true or I hear things I would not have thought about immediately.. well thanks anyway for giving your opinion
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Post by iam4guys on Jan 23, 2011 13:36:25 GMT -5
from what I read in this week's tvguide, Edwin trotseert zijn vader als ze ruzie krijgen om Wiet - translation - Edwin is standing up against his father when they are having a fight/are argumenting, because of Wiet.[ I wonder, because of the drugs I suppose? Having read all the comments here I don't know what to think anymore. It's like been said that Edwin sometimes does have chemistry with Wiet, what worries me too. And I what I have also considered, when Edwin was looking at Lucas his direction when he was talking with Wiet, could it be that he was afraid Lucas might tell something about him to Wiet? so that his big secret would come out? Maybe that is why he was so fixated on him/them? And short after the argumenting about Wiet, the friday after it ( next friday) Edwin discovers who bid on him. I think if Lucas was the one Edwin will still not be amused and still behave like he does.. it won't change his feelings I think. So it might be someone else bidding on him. I hope this week will make some things better or at least clear up!
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Jan 22, 2011 16:33:15 GMT -5
Post by iam4guys on Jan 22, 2011 16:33:15 GMT -5
I always use photo's as a reference so I don't think it will be a big problem:-) but when you did this pure from your imagination than I really have respect for you!
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Post by iam4guys on Jan 22, 2011 15:43:55 GMT -5
there are more possibilities.. Lucas and Edwin can first have a secret thing with each other.. and later on Lucas encourages Edwin to tell his family and later on the rest, when he is ready for it
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Jan 22, 2011 15:37:33 GMT -5
Post by iam4guys on Jan 22, 2011 15:37:33 GMT -5
yes that's my problem as well! Well I have been drawing too , for quite a long time, but since I have photoshop and since I make music I haven't been drawing much anymore. You really should go to an Art Academy - because you are really talented Anne! I think this Edwin and Lucas drawing is really your best drawing and I can't wait to see more of your talent!
I don't know if I will draw them both, maybe I only choose Edwin to draw, I will see..
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Jan 22, 2011 15:14:13 GMT -5
Post by iam4guys on Jan 22, 2011 15:14:13 GMT -5
I will see! I have a Wacom Intuos 3 at home, a very big one, but I almost never use it though.. I still find working with the wacom different then using a normal pencil and paper. But it's great when you can use it to its full potential! like you do! Did you make the first sketch also in Photoshop, or did you first make the drawing, and scanned it to edit it in Photoshop? I think you have done a marvellous job Do you attend art-classes or is this just a hobby that you have developed more and more?
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Jan 22, 2011 13:38:03 GMT -5
Post by iam4guys on Jan 22, 2011 13:38:03 GMT -5
I have been drawing a lot , but this is already some years ago, I used to draw people/faces by using pictures from the internet etcetera. I can try to make one again, but I hope I still can haha. btw did you use a Wacom Tablet for this?
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Jan 22, 2011 7:57:44 GMT -5
Post by iam4guys on Jan 22, 2011 7:57:44 GMT -5
..And I drew one for Lucas and Edwin! - Edwin sitting in the closet. - Writings on the wall are supposed to represent Edwin's struggling and thoughts. - Empty coat hangers --> loss of control. - A portrait of Wiet, smiling with her eyes closed --> she's blind to what's happening. - and... Lucas! Isn't it ironic that his name means light? ;p He's reaching out to Edwin with his rainbow hand! He wants Edwin to grab it, and Edwin is reaching out slightly as well, but his own rainbow hand is still clutching his head in fear. - dit is echt een flink staaltje kunst!!!! heel heel heel goed over nagedacht, prachtig getekend, prachtige kleuren, mooi met die silhouetten... fantastisch - een dikke 10! ( this is really a piece of art! very very very well drawn, you really took your time to think how to create it, vibrant beautiful colors, nice silhouettes.. fantastic - een big A+ for you!)
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Post by iam4guys on Jan 21, 2011 19:18:23 GMT -5
i think we don't have to wait until next fall or until summer.. I think it might happen this februari or march.. after all, the big spoiler was that ludwin was going to happen in the beginning of 2011..
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Post by iam4guys on Jan 21, 2011 15:44:43 GMT -5
I must say, I like the more mature Edwin more, this Edwin is definately looking younger.. Edwin eat! haha
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Post by iam4guys on Jan 21, 2011 14:43:28 GMT -5
well't that is a matter of taste I guess.. it depends on what you like to see. I agree Lucas was nice, but the rest.. I think Ludo is back with some thing again, time will tell;-)
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Post by iam4guys on Jan 21, 2011 14:33:11 GMT -5
I thought it was a quite boring episode, in my opinion. I also think that these (todays episode) scenes, and the drugs scene have been filmed in a very early stage.. because Edwin look so thin and compared how he looked in the rest of the episodes, he looks so young here!
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Post by iam4guys on Jan 21, 2011 11:04:44 GMT -5
I wonder what Sjoerd was thinking when he was looking at Edwin looking at Lucas and the DJ? He had sort of a knowing smile on his face...which could either mean he smiling because he sees Edwin being disgusted by looking and Lucas and DJ kissing (but why would Edwin keep looking back?) or maybe he's having a smug look because he's starting to get an idea about Edwin's jealousy.Maybe Sjoerd is more tolerant of Gays than he lets on. He said he wasn't going to the Club, but he goes. Maybe his homophobic remarks are just to be a bad boy and shock, but really he's not so bad. Like everyone noticed he used to like Lucas and Noud (Gay friendly) and I would really like if the 3 of them could get back together.It seems like his brotherly love for Edwin is more important than anything and I don't think it would take him long to get over Edwin being Gay. Maybe he'll be mad that Edwin didn't discuss his feeling to Sjoerd before. I guess we don't really know Sjoerd that much. He can be a jerk sometimes and not such a jerk other times. I think Lucas asking his brother if he liked guys was because in the small town he grew up in, like Edwin said - he didn't see any Gays. But now that he knows Lucas, who he punched, maybe he really doesn't think Gays are so bad. He's joined at the hip to Edwin and looks up to him, who knows, maybe he'll be the first to find out Edwin is Gay, and after the shock and initial resentment, maybe he'll even help Edwin come to terms with it and help with Edwin's family. Or, I could be on Ecstasy right now, and Sjoerd will totally Hate Edwin, LOL ! like i said before, he is contantly pushing his brother by saying mean things or things like - you're always avoiding when I talk about girls.. believe me - Sjoerd already suspects and that is why he did not have a problem that Edwin suddenly wants to have Wiet, because he secretly hopes it might turn Edwin's feelings. That's why he agreed so easily!
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Post by iam4guys on Jan 21, 2011 10:33:11 GMT -5
this is my photoshopped version of that pic - minus Wiet and Sjoerd Attachments:
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Post by iam4guys on Jan 21, 2011 10:03:04 GMT -5
well i cannot tell everything, but when I read the reactions on the forums, people really think Edwin is gay, just some of them think he might be bi, but most of them do think he is gay Most of them, almost all, think this relationship with Wiet has to end soon they all , some exceptions, think he and Lucas should pair Most people are annoyed by Wiet.
I think Wiet can be a real pain in the ass, even when they Ludwin pair, but I feel that she is going to have a mental breakdown when Edwin does not want to be with her anymore.
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Post by iam4guys on Jan 21, 2011 8:37:26 GMT -5
okay I can live with that LadyArmand! But I hope this Wiet -thing ends soon because it is getting really boring..even on Dutch forums people say... okay Wiet + Edwin = NOT and a lot of them also state that they see Edwin and Lucas belong together but because it takes so long before finally something happens and now with annoying Wiet all the time, the storyline is boring them as well wow, where did you read those comments? i think it's important that some dutch viewers start voicing their opinions on this storyline, after all they are the ones that count. Personally I don't find the story boring, just frustrating, because I see no end in sight for it I just wish Wiet would get out of the picture, but I don't think it will happen anytime soon. I read it on the official GTST forum, and on GTST-courant as well.. but you are right.. it looks like nothing is gonna change right now. What I do see is that Wiet is starting to look older with the heavy make-up she is wearing and she begins to work on my nerves more and more. She ruined the storyline for me, I think it could indeed take a long time before we see Lucas and Edwin in some romantical setting again. But what someone suggested here, about the toiletcam and Edwin and Lucas in the toilet again witnessing something.. that would be a good one. But we speculate and speculate everytime and sometimes it is just the complete opposite. I mean, we were so excited with the season's promo which showed us the 2nd kiss. And we all thought it was a kiss of passion and that edwin came out to Lucas or something like that.. well turned out we were all soooo wrong! Wiet came in his life and has since then not left him.. I wished he did not enjoy having sex with her all the time.. I want that moment, like on the couch, back lol! at least something that could lead to something interesting..
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Post by iam4guys on Jan 20, 2011 20:24:11 GMT -5
yes that kiss was a pure strategy Lucas uses. Lucas has not given up at all. He knows Wiet is just a distraction now, and it was obvious that Lucas and Edwin were staring at each other all the time, even when talking with Wiet. And for Lucas that is already enough, so that's why weapon number 2 was introduced - kissing with that 'guy. Just for the fun and of course to see if it does anything to Edwin.. he knew it would..strategy succeeded!
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Post by iam4guys on Jan 20, 2011 20:19:45 GMT -5
i agree to that Duskysoda! And I do think Sjoerd does not have that much problems with gays.. I mean he watches them and smiles.. well I think a lot , and really a lot of straightguys are soooo annoyed when they see this.. let alone see it, they would call names or ran away as fast as they can! But look, when Edwin is in Sjoerd's neighbourhood Sjoerd is pushing, and always talking in some way, just to see what Edwin's reaction is. Why is it that Sjoerd so easily let Wiet go , to be with his brother? That's why.. he has seen enough weird things already, knows his brother does not talk about girls and avoids the subject almost everytime. so for Sjoerd he hopes that Wiet might give him the straight-click - that's why! Sjoerd is not from mars.. he certainly is aware of Lucas his attention to Edwin all the time, and how Edwin reacts.. he is just watching and waiting too I think! And when Edwin admits, he won't let Edwin down, I think he can live with it, even though he seems to be not that much into gaypeople, I think he does when it is Edwin
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Post by iam4guys on Jan 20, 2011 20:05:57 GMT -5
okay I can live with that LadyArmand! But I hope this Wiet -thing ends soon because it is getting really boring..even on Dutch forums people say... okay Wiet + Edwin = NOT and a lot of them also state that they see Edwin and Lucas belong together but because it takes so long before finally something happens and now with annoying Wiet all the time, the storyline is boring them as well
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Post by iam4guys on Jan 20, 2011 19:21:33 GMT -5
I wonder what you guys thought about todays episode? i mean, it's all very funny etcetera.. but I still don't see a confused Edwin and still see the couple Edwin and Wiet, like a straight couple.. am I missing something? How can he be so into looking at Lucas the day before, and after it act like anything ever happened? I think that is what someone calls - the downlow for nothing - If Edwin really is interested in Lucas, they don't show him feeling that, not even a bit.. yes indeed he is staring and gazing and giving a jealous grin.. but if the kiss really did so much to him , why don't we see him so ..happy? .. with Wiet...?
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Post by iam4guys on Jan 19, 2011 22:07:26 GMT -5
same video i already uploaded, but in much higher quality! watch it in the highest possible quality: and rate, comment and/or subscribe ;-)
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Post by iam4guys on Jan 19, 2011 16:32:04 GMT -5
and let's not forget..Sjoerd is in this club.. lucas is kissing that guy... if he really does not want to be in the same room with kissing gay guys he would have ran out immediately. As far as I see it, he is quite relaxed and does not seem to care that much. And it is also funny first Edwin says... no I don't want to go to such a club.. and now he is there again.. he could have ran away too.. but instead he was just watching lucas and the face he makes is not one of eew that is disgusting but instead he is looking jealous haha
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Post by iam4guys on Jan 19, 2011 16:13:43 GMT -5
by the way.. am I the only that thinks they should have chosen a less stereotype gayguy? I mean, mohawk or something like that.. and he is sooooo not like Edwin..
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Post by iam4guys on Jan 19, 2011 14:52:33 GMT -5
for as far as I know, Everon ( who is Bing) is actually bisexual just like Ferry. anyway, I think the problem with Everon is that he smizes with his eyes all the time, even when he needs to be serious ( smizing is a term from antm and means, to smile with your eyes). So I don't buy it. I think he should have gotten a better storyline.. he is now a jerk, and how he treated Sjors does not make him look attractive as well!
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Post by iam4guys on Jan 19, 2011 14:46:35 GMT -5
for once I am gonna try not to watch tomorrows shortie as I want to be surprised! really loved todays episode, because it promises a much better storyline.. I think!
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