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Post by mgh48 on Feb 23, 2010 8:42:35 GMT -5
Thanks for the ongoing clips! Great story, great the way the guys are acting.
Just have to say, if MY boyfriend ever went behind my back like that after I just TOLD him no----not sure the relationship could stand my angry response heh.
On the other hand, I'd never be in the position in the first place heh. If I were Kyle, I'd still keep trying to get my guy to agree willingly to the test because it's the right thing to do. If, then, he still didn't want to raise the kid, then you let the relative have her.
And, yeah, I'd raise hell about the 'normal' remark, too
But going all sneaky like that....no, I wouldn't put up with that.
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Post by mgh48 on Jan 21, 2010 13:35:20 GMT -5
Love what I'm seeing. Yeah, I was a little confused on the number of times poor Oliver slept with that skan...I mean person of questionable moral rectitude And, I'd really like to see them closer much more. Maybe I tend to be more cuddly but by now, I'd be holding my guy close---especially if he has an upset of this magnitude. And no, the pillow was really not necessary...sorta weird, actually. Maybe for TV audiences? Dunno. Definitely need to be physically closer by now. MGH
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Post by mgh48 on Jan 15, 2010 1:07:28 GMT -5
I think I must have watched 10 times the first 2 minutes of the clip: Fish's faces when he saw Ford (wow!) and when Kyle walked in on them were incredibly funny ;D This super cute couple should have more air time! BTW, Ford is a weapon of mass destruction (can you be my roommate, buddy?)Yeah, Ford *said* relax, bro, I'm Straight. *ahem* Like Kyle said: where have I heard that before? hehheee
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Post by mgh48 on Jan 14, 2010 21:44:36 GMT -5
Thanks indeed for the clip. When will Oliver learn to relax? When will Kyle stop teasing him about it? I know what's going on, actually: Kyle is much more comfortable with being Gay; Oliver isn't (though he seemed to have no problem saying he had a boyfriend to an unknown Straight Guy the day before). AKA: Kyle's presence still makes him nervous in the 'here and now'---but in absentia, he can be himself, totally. It's going to get to the point where Oliver will face up to his uncomfortableness. Like when he was really pissed-off. Then, he was just totally himself. MGH PS: ok, ok, ok---yeah, everything was just so cute. PPS: I just can't wait till they get to the stage where they call each other, 'Babe'. For me, that's when I know I'm 'with' someone. Geoff
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Post by mgh48 on Dec 23, 2009 2:07:51 GMT -5
The Cry was a good Cry. I need more of those, these days.
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Post by mgh48 on Dec 23, 2009 1:01:11 GMT -5
lostaway,
You've made me cry again.
The last time was your first Chrolli vid.
All my towels are soaking wet again because of you and your awesome talent. I once said to you: you should be a movie-maker---have you considered it?
Geoff
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Post by mgh48 on Sept 15, 2008 10:10:57 GMT -5
Hey guys
This is really off-topic to this thread in a way---but my shoulder is ok now. The reason I haven't really written or continued my story is because I've met someone new. I'm all caught-up with him: heart, mind, soul, spirit---all of it. I feel like a highschool boy! LOL ;D My German friend says: oh, I'm tired of all this schmalz (whatever that means---I assume it to mean sappiness heh).
Anyway, once my emotions and my brain equalize, I will continue with O & C in the cabin. Please bear with me.
Geoff
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Post by mgh48 on Sept 8, 2008 0:11:34 GMT -5
For me, I'm not really interested in the personal lives of Thore and Jo---except that their careers are doing well and all is well with them, generally. Sure, I'd like some insight into how he views Christian and so on, but I prefer to distance myself from anything personal. I'm strange that way, so sorry----consider it an aspect of my Southern upbringing, if you wish, where such matters are best left to the imagination, if at all. Would I like to know Thore personally? Yeah, sure. He sounds like a really fun guy to hang around with. But, I don't know him. That's ok for me. Still, I can see the attraction such a blog has for others (Jo's has a similar appeal, I take it) and I certainly believe it's great that those of you who like this kind of interaction have the opportunity for it. Nothing but good can come from it, I think. But, for me, I prefer to watch Thore's art, only. I admit, I did mail he and Jo a letter expressing my gratitude---but don't see me taking it any further. But, that's just me, of course. laters Geoff
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Post by mgh48 on Sept 4, 2008 11:13:00 GMT -5
Plus, Here We Go Again doesn't have any of the sounds that Germans typically stumble over, like ths. There is a much older clip of Christian explaining the No Limits breakfast menu to English speaking guests and his accent was a bit more noticable there. Got a linkie, lola? thanks Geoff
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Post by mgh48 on Sept 4, 2008 5:37:31 GMT -5
Great episode. All the weirdness of soap reality aside, injection of drama into the Boys' story was definitely welcome.
I'm still surprised at how easily some of the actors can pronounce English with no hint of accent. Kristina did it months ago to Coco (counting down from 10, IIRC). Jo did it once, I think..? And now Thore has done it for a second time. He sounded very mid-westerny American with: Here we go again.
I was really shocked. My German friend has, even after 2years of intense practice, a very obvious German accent which he really hates. After decades here, my Aunt still has a very noticeable accent.
Kristina (geeze don't know if I'm spellng that right) I can somewhat understand as most professionally trained vocalists must be able to sing various original pieces in other languages, etc.
I mean, Thore's line was a very believable American sounding line.
If all this sounds crazy, just ignore me: medication and being stuck at home has, no doubt, driven me insane.
Geoff
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Post by mgh48 on Sept 4, 2008 5:26:35 GMT -5
Re: soz, lola and the new writers:
Have we asked him why he left yet? Or, have you guys already stated this and I just can't find it? Sorry, meds, meds, meds....
Definitely, we need a way to ask Jo, Thore or Tom or all of them, how they 'feel' the new writing team intends to handle the O & C plots for the foreseeable. We'd appreciate any insights they are permitted to discuss or 'reassurances', however you'd like to state it. I'm quite certain Mr. Croust (sp?) has had to sign a NDA, as well. At least, that would be typical here in the US.
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Post by mgh48 on Sept 3, 2008 13:12:47 GMT -5
Really like this episode. Of course, I'm an Olivia fan...so, not so strange. Loved Christian's annoyance with Gregor's usual, insipid lines too. Knew Olli couldn't stay mad at Olivia for long heh. Ugh...pain. Back to the meds Geoff
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Post by mgh48 on Sept 3, 2008 10:42:19 GMT -5
That's a really cool idea and somebody apparently took you up on it: www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sG6ang4j8QThey did a great job too. Best/Funniest video I have seen in a while and great clip selection. Really funny! Great idea. Geoff
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Post by mgh48 on Sept 2, 2008 9:54:36 GMT -5
But, lola, there are all kinds of story hooks possible with the guy who we speculate will turn evidence on Axel. Right?
You will, I hope, pardon any strangeness in my typing or writing---under influence of meds.
But it seems to me that they may be deliberately keeping the resolution of this plot under-wraps, eh? I'm not sure, of course, since before this show, I never watched any kind of soap, let alone a German one heh. For example, one of the favorite plots on American soaps seems to be the 'courtroom drama episodes'. Not sure if I've asked this before, but I wonder if a trial might not be in the planning? Do you know if such a scene has been done on VL before.
Hmmm. I vaguely recall asking something like this before---but no way can I remember the answer.
I think the production company must know by now how popular O & C are. Unless they had an overpowering reason to the contrary, couldn't see them phasing it out....? Also, perhaps this might be something someone could ask during rod's upcoming chat with Jo and Thore---supposing these kinds of questions are allowed? Anyway, I'm starting to babble...
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Post by mgh48 on Sept 2, 2008 9:46:47 GMT -5
Thanks, all!
I sprained my neck and shoulder/arm. ugh
I didn't even know it for two days; then, the pain set in and got worse and worse. Finally reported it as injury on duty--got sent to Doc, got meds and got sent home. Medicine is making me really dizzy.
The sensation is not at all pleasant heh...ok, well, maybe a little.
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Post by mgh48 on Sept 1, 2008 18:48:49 GMT -5
Hey all!
Sorry about delay in next episode...injured shoulder and neck at work and under the influence of major meds heh heh.
They have me happy, happy---but quite incapable of writing coherently (don't be fooled by this sentence---it took a lot to write!)
LOL
be back to writing soon!
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Post by mgh48 on Aug 30, 2008 0:48:26 GMT -5
ROFL! Yeah, I'll take it in-stride. It's not like I haven't seen/heard non-Southerners try to speak like us before. Geoff
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Post by mgh48 on Aug 30, 2008 0:43:57 GMT -5
Thanks, all.
Lars: sorry to see him go. Unfortunately, every time I've seen him, he's always had to be grim and forbidding.
Lydia: already getting tired of her teary-eyed breakdowns. Maybe she'll get over all this soon...
Gregor + Rebecca is just plain annoying heh.
O & C = great, if way too short. I could use so longer epi's featuring them.
Believe it or not, I'm really missing Judith's story-lines. I could use some more with her and Consti. Maybe I'm just going through nostalgia for the epis a couple of months ago heh.
Geoff
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Post by mgh48 on Aug 30, 2008 0:38:56 GMT -5
Ahem. Speaking as one of the few Southerners here, I have to say you didn't get our 'phrases' right. I think, maybe 50 years ago people in certain areas spoke in this manner, but I've never heard anyone speak like that in living memory---except by Yankees who think they know how we speak. heh heh. The only word we still use is y'all (from the ones you tried to use). I find most non-Southerners still don't know how to use it properly. But ok, I'll attempt to take it as 'humor'. ;D Geoff
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Post by mgh48 on Aug 29, 2008 3:07:01 GMT -5
rod and lola,
thank you so much for your kind words and insights.
Of course, lola, I hope you are wrong about your worries for VL. At the end of the day, both of our societies are focused only on money. And, sadly, if the new writing team believes they need to change the stories to get more of it, then yes, I can see O & C going away. I hope that doesn't happen.
Because of this story, I came out of various shells/walls I had built around me. I WISH I had seen this story 10 years ago. If I had, things would be very different for me, now heh.
Nevertheless, perhaps I've seen it just when it was necessary for me to see it. ;D
Who knows?
Before this show, the only soap I ever watched was Dark Shadows...way back in the 70s when I was a kid.
As my German friend keeps telling me: this show brought you back to life---it doesn't matter how or why, just that it did. It's important to you, for now. Someday, it won't be as important.
I love Jo and Thore (btw, did you know pronouncing 'Thore' in German is supposed to be very soft...not harsh? It's difficult) for their determination to act this story as they have done. I don't believe I'll ever be able to express adequately the depth of gratitude I feel. Words, sometimes, are not enough.
Geoff
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Post by mgh48 on Aug 28, 2008 1:03:09 GMT -5
Yes.
I'll try not to be sappy, but what I loved about the last few epi's was simply this:
how much they truly love each other
Olli says it because he feels he must; Christian shows it because he cannot say it
Perhaps my reaction is simply a response...to how things are in the Gay community. So much is pushed in your face: porn, snarkiness, cynicism, apathy and so on. None of this is how *I* am; so, when I see 2 men act that way Olliver and Christian do to each other, well, it signals hope for our community.
Maybe, one day, we Gay Men can get away from physicality and focus on love. Ya think?
That's what O & C's story is saying to me.
nuff said, methinks.
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Post by mgh48 on Aug 27, 2008 8:53:08 GMT -5
Oh, er, I see....ummm. It must be a European thingie, because I can't imagine this happening here in the US. Unless, of course, one or both of the friends were drunk as hell---it would then be used to 'sober up' one or both of them ;D
If I walked into a bathroom in my apartment and saw a roommate or my boyfriend sitting IN the tub fully clothed, I'd immediately think one or more of the following:
1: He's drunk as hell, climbed into the tub and doesn't realize it or can't get out. 2: He's sick as a dog and is trying to recover in the bathroom so he doesn't make a mess elsewhere in the apartment. 3: all of the above 4: he's gone insane and I need to call the guys in the white coats
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I just don't know how else to read 'I think I'll look really cool if I sit in the bathtub fully clothed!'
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Post by mgh48 on Aug 27, 2008 7:55:52 GMT -5
I'm agreeing in part with some of the critique, here. On the one hand, I really like the casual, public displays of affection or 'togetherness'. Especially like it when Christian makes his impassioned speeches (short though they are) about his 'boyfriend'. And, I do like how they seem to disappear into their own world when they are together. But in private, much too much is left to the imagination. The couch and pillow scene, yeah, that was funny for a moment, but I got the sense that it was awkward even for the actors. The bathtub scene, for me at least, just made no sense. I suppose I could see it as a natural progression of all the other times they've had intense conversation with each other and leave it at that---but for such a private, intimate encounter, it just read as cutesy, to me. I mean, WHY did they suddenly decide to sit in the bathtub, fully clothed? Why not have them, I dunno, IN the bath? Or, in the shower, at least (with only tasteful 'nudity' shots, of course---shirtless, or above waist shots, I mean). Or, if that were too much, then a scene recalling the 'doping' argument/make-up, but this time, Olli is sitting on the tub and Christian is tending to HIM. heh. At least that would've made sense. Generally, overall, however, I like what I'm seeing and I get that the actors are trying to convey how important the boxing + publishing of their story is important to them, and intimacy is happening off camera---with lingering after-effects in public. I totally get the feeling that they are a tight couple and very committed to each other. I love that, very much Still, I could really wish for more scenes like the shower scene and the shower at the gym scene---those were funny, too and showed more 'intimacy' of the kind I can deal with. Love-making in the bed, well, I can take that in small doses then it begins to stray into a display that, I feel, is way too intimate. But, hey! that's probably just my Southern Boy manners activating against my will. ;D Overall, last few episodes get an A- from me. Geoff
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Post by mgh48 on Aug 27, 2008 1:12:18 GMT -5
synapticmisfire, what an interesting point-of-view and interpretation of Olliver.
hmmm.
Now that gets me thinking and thinking.
Nice job!
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Post by mgh48 on Aug 25, 2008 10:35:02 GMT -5
It didn't take them long to get the cabin aired-out and relatively functional. Whoever had used it last had made certain everything was clean and packed-up properly. So much so, Christian couldn't tell if anyone had actually used it recently. Surely, someone had, though. There was no feeling of neglect or abandonment, no dust or other debris, at all. He looked around carefully, checking for any notes that might have been left, anything that would indicate someone had been here; but, nothing. Curious.
Olliver had already unpacked all the packages and grocery bags, taking a moment to comment on anything he found interesting or make silly jokes over items he did not. Apparently, he'd already calmed down from the heated episode in the car. Christian grinned roguishly when he remembered Olli's frustrated expression. Well, outrage, really.
I'll make it up to him, soon enough, he chuckled to himself. He took out a pack of long, red candles and fixed them securely into a little holder on the table then regarded the scene outside the large, full glass window.
Full night had come. No trace of the dying sun was apparent anywhere in the huge span of sky. The great boles of ancient trees thrust high into the gloaming welkin of the night, their branches grasping desperately, longingly at the myriad stars looming teasingly above. From the north, a steady breeze was blowing, shaking the lesser trees and shubbery, troubling the lake with a chaos of tiny waves and scattered woodland debris.
Far on the opposite banks, he could see a light, golden bright, pierce through the darkness to spangle the uneasy waters with shifting shadows and gleams. It was still early night with plenty of time left for what he had in mind.
Olliver came up behind him, suddenly, as he stared out the window, peering at the distant light. Christian could see his smiling face reflected faintly in the glass. Olli draped his arms around him, leaned his head on his shoulders. Without thinking, Christian leaned his head on to Olli's and together, they viewed the aging night. Warmth from their closeness in the car still lingered between them: a ghost of unrequited desire.
Olli sighed, unmoving, still looking outside, "So, what did you mean: 'let's get this over with'?" His breathing became slower, deeper. But, there was no reproach in his tone of voice, no suspicious probing. Only a casual curiosity.
"Huh?", Christian said, distractedly. He lied easily, "Oh. You know: unpacking and whatever. And, we're out of firewood. I definitely want some firewood." He moved out of Olli's arms, but still gave him a quick hug before heading to the door.
"Firewood? But why...", came Olli's query just as he opened the door. Christian turned back, gave him an impish wink and grin, "You'll see." He smirked as Olli rolled his eyes and made a face. Then stepped out into the already cooled evening. Autumn was nearly upon them, the equinox only a week or so away. Most of the leaves on the hardwoods had already turned though they had not yet fallen. The forest floor was not yet a carpet of gold and rust. Not yet. A strong gust of wind, however, blew a shower of leaves around him even as he moved along a trail into the woods, looking for the wood pile, like a promise of the coming Fall.
There it was, only a few meters into the trees: a great pile of cut wood, some of it old, some of it new in a roughly circular clearing. Christian could see the footprints of the woodcutters or other campers who had recently gathered from the pile in the faint lights from the cabin. He set to work, took-up and stacked as many chunks of wood as he thought he'd need, then started porting them back to the cabin. Afterwards, he split the logs into smaller pieces with an old axe, the exact same one he'd used before, so long ago. All-in-all, it took him an hour to stack, chop and lay the campfire.
The work warmed him, defying the cold of deepening night.
At last, the firewood was laid though he did not light it. He stood staring at it, recalling that night so long ago when he and Olliver had sat round the fire and just talked. He tried to remember what he was feeling back then. He remembered nothing in particular, other than lingering irritation with Coco and a kind of illogical friendliness towards Olli. Had it only been last year? So much had happened, since then. So much, he could barely feel any of the guilt he'd endured over the break-up with Coco.
I'm so tired of guilt, he told himself. Why do I always feel like everything, everything is all my fault...? Never mind, all that, his conscience broke in, you know you were only thinking of yourself last month, before and after the championship bout. Wasn't it your doing that Axel was able to hurt Olli? No, I did it for Olli...for us! Yeah, right, came the unwanted reply.
Christian shook his head, to hell with all consciences! Just then, he was distracted from his thoughts. Across the lake, he heard voices shouting and laughing. Another light sprang up and he thought it was either a campfire or perhaps a campstove. Vague figures moved in and out of view and he wondered again who else was sharing the lake campground at this time of year. Not that that was out of the ordinary, just unexpected. He hadn't thought to question the Millers about any other guests; and, of course, they wouldn't normally mention this one way or the other. It makes no difference to me, he told himself sternly. So long as they stayed away from he and Olliver for the next three days.
He frowned at the distant racket, then turned away, feeling a weird pang of foreboding. Which vanished as he entered the cabin. Everything was put away and ready, though that was a shock to see. Olliver was usually astonishingly haphazard when it came to clean-up and household chores. Christian was the 'neat freak'. He turned into the small living room and found Olliver dozing on the couch, leaned back with his eyes closed, his feet up on the little coffee table. Christian came up behind him and began to gently massaged his shoulders. "How are you feeling?", Christian wondered aloud, concern making his voice nearly too quiet to hear. "Are you sure your up for this?" It hadn't been more than a fortnight since...
Olli murmured, "Stop mothering me. I'm fine. Just a little tired." He smiled, "So, mighty lumberjack, have you conquered the wilderness and brought the wood? You smell like you've been lost in the forest for weeks." His laughter was only slightly taunting, but Christian just grinned.
"Yeah, come on! A hot shower is called for. If you can handle it, that is...", smirked Christian, already heading into the hallway leading to the bathroom. He started peeling off clothes on the way, carefully folding them as he went. Olliver jumped up and followed quickly, doing likewise, though he threw his clothing all over the place, leaving a careless trail of it enroute. When Christian looked at the mess and rolled his eyes at him, Olli looked around in confusion for a moment, then said, "What?".
Grinning, they both went into the little bathroom...
To be continued.
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