kevinlantojack
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Post by kevinlantojack on Jun 1, 2010 19:21:45 GMT -5
that was it? seriously? that's the major reconciliation i've been waiting months for?! the scripting didn't even make sense in the first lot of flatshare talks. it was barely saved by the flashbacks. how anyone came up with that on paper and thought they'd found the perfect resolution for weeks on end of pathetic squabbling is beyond me. it doesn't make any sense. they were just plucking random half-truths out the air to consolidate and solidify the characters' relationship. sure, in his heart christian may worry about possibly losing olli and recall the axel situation when he very nearly did lose olli - but the flashback felt hammered into the scene and considering minutes ago at the table they were questioning whether their love was 'enough' - that leading onto olli lamenting the myocarditis felt completely hamfisted. it was like they were playing all their cards in the shortest amount of time possible. it doesn't do either of the characters justice and it shows so little respect to the fans who've stuck with this all the way through. i can only compare it to how i felt watching the lost final episode. after putting up with so much crap over however many seasons there were just because i had fallen in love with the premise in the beginning and then to get served that tepid bullshit. i mean you didn't even find out what the numbers were!! today VL hit a new low for me. chrolli were a B story at most - and this was their big climatic reunion. are teenagers writing this bullshit or something? there was nothing real about this. nothing relatable. nothing convincing. and nothing to make me think they've both realised their mistakes. it was like they reconciled just because they've been together this long already, and because they've been through so much and heck! they even loved eachother once. it reeked of desperation and fear - IF i saw any sort of motivation for them to stay together. which i didn't. really. most of all it felt like going through the motions. *sigh* What I think they are showing us, is that they have been fighting all this time ,but now they are having this little chat they just realize how they almost lost each other and that's why the showed the flashbacks and seeing how much they love, care and want to be with each other
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Post by kevinlantojack on May 28, 2010 22:11:36 GMT -5
I realize this won't happen,but what if the "sinister" side is Massod trying to get Syed and Christian back together. I wish I wish I wish
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Post by kevinlantojack on May 28, 2010 22:06:08 GMT -5
Why Noah punch Reid he had nothing to do with the break up Noah did it all on his own I don't think Noah will punch Reid because of the breakup. I think he'll feel betrayed by Reid (and possibly Luke, as well). Though, as md1347 suggests, it could be that Reid says something that riles up Noah (Reid does have a big mouth, after all). I don't think Reid really tried to push Luke and Noah apart as a couple. His initial condition of not seeing Luke was based on his hatred of Luke at the time, and not on any desire to keep them apart. As he started developing feelings for Luke, he never said that again. Beyond that, I think he was making his case for himself to Luke, in his own way. I guess we don't know the extent of what Noah said to Reid. I'm sure Reid used what he learned directly from Luke, what he learned directly from Noah, and his own observations and intuition to try to build a picture of their relationship. You can see a bit of that in some of the things he says to Luke, as a method of contrasting himself to Noah (and "selling" himself to Luke). Someone suggested that Reid didn't use what Noah told him in any way, and I don't think that's right. I'm not sure exactly how Luke feels for Noah. I don't think he really knows, either. Some of his actions suggest, as you do, that Luke isn't over Noah. There's a lot of history between them, and that's not something that can be let go of easily. But there's also been a lot of damage done. I personally don't think Luke has a reason to feel betrayed over Richard. I think Luke overreacted, and made a big deal out of nothing. As for whether Noah has a justifiable reason to be mad at Luke, I personally will wait and see how it plays out. I think there are ways they could write it that would be reasonable, and a lot of ways they could write it that would not. I guess we'll see. Uh, that would be his comment, not "her" . If they can make a believable story that gets them back together, I'm all for it. If they tell a believable story that has Luke end up with Reid, that's good, too. As I've said before, I think Luke and Noah had fundamental issues in their relationship. It's too early to tell what kinds of issues Luke and Reid would have in a relationship. Either way, given past history I don't hold a lot of hope that those issues will be addressed in a satisfactory way, that would help them grow as individuals, and as a couple. WOW I love the way you took your time and summries each and every comment well done
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Post by kevinlantojack on May 27, 2010 22:05:03 GMT -5
Well, Reid did try to push Luke and Noah apart until they broke up (refusing at times to perform the surgery) but the reason why is that Reid is Noah's doctor. Noah told Reid things about his and Luke's relationship. Reid used that info to his advantage to try to get Luke. It's like insider trading. Not to mention the fact that both Luke and Reid have been lying to Noah all this time. He also broke doctor/patient trust by going after Luke. I would never trust a doctor again after he did something like that. And not that Noah knows but he did want to have sex with an emotional Luke while Noah was unconscious with possible brain damage. But I would imagine that Reid's mouth runs off and says something not too flattering about Luke (or about Noah) that he didn't like and he punches Reid. Will have to wait till the 9th. I can understand Noah being angry at Reid, but that doesn't mean that he is right. It's true that he can feel betrayed by Reid, but Reid didn't use the information Noah gave to him (in fact he take Noah word, he probably doesn't want to be near Luke). Nuke broke up because Noah can accept Luke's help, and he can't commit to the relationship (in fact he react very bad in Luke's presence and prefered anyone but Luke). Reid's advances towards Luke were way after their break up. On the other side, Luke doesn't owe Noah anything. And to be honest, right now he has nothing to tell Noah, because he hasn't anything with Reid yet. And even he can easily feel betrayed too, the same way Luke felt on Richard (even Luke has more reasons to felt that way, in my opinion), i will find difficult to justify if Noah gets mad at Luke LOL I don't think md1347 have been watching the same ATWT like we have been watching ,because of her comment jjose712 you said it all ,the only thing that worries me right now that they might put Luke and Noah together its soaps so anything goes
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Post by kevinlantojack on May 27, 2010 15:06:21 GMT -5
Why Noah punch Reid he had nothing to do with the break up Noah did it all on his own
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Post by kevinlantojack on May 27, 2010 11:02:34 GMT -5
Oh Mark I hope you don't get into trouble. You could always reach out to RTL directly and explain. I know that RTL has been very supportive of Nanna and the EKP girls. Fingers crossed. LORENA!!!! Girrrrrrl is coo coo for cocoa puffs bananas in a good way. Just evil! YAY! She makes beautiful crazy sweet Isabella and scheming lil Wiet look like Pollyanna and Little Mary Sunshine in comparison. When Jack finds out that Lorena was the one that sent his sister to the hospital and she almost losing her baby she is going to get it
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Post by kevinlantojack on May 24, 2010 17:00:39 GMT -5
Arg, this one doesn't work for me. It may be that it only works in the U.S. Sorry. Hopefully it will turn up somewhere more accessible soon. Its not working for me and am in the US
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Post by kevinlantojack on May 17, 2010 21:18:14 GMT -5
Fanvid about gay characters, featuring Aaron & Jackson Thanks for posting the video who ever put that video together did a very good job I love the last part with Luke and Reid the way the kiss ended with the song Great Job!!!!
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Post by kevinlantojack on May 15, 2010 20:57:31 GMT -5
Just watched the very last episode. Very sad to see it end even if I didn't always like this show. I think I missed a couple of episodes I stopped at May 12th after that I missed something on Sytze and Karif stoyline,but looking at the clips here no sign of Karif Do you know what happened to Karif at the ending of the show? THANKS!!!!
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Post by kevinlantojack on May 15, 2010 19:28:55 GMT -5
samweed thank you I will check it out
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Post by kevinlantojack on May 15, 2010 18:49:15 GMT -5
I am a super fan of Luke and Reid ,but it look like in the end the stupid writers will go with Luke and Noah Now the storyline with Noah with his full set of hair and walking 100 percent,even if he did a bad fake job at trying to walk that whole thing is impossible. Listen writers my brother when through the same surgery Noah did and my friends that never went like that First there was no way he was allowed to have that full hair Second when he go up his head was bandage all over with tubes all over him[which I did not see in Noah's case] Third he could never walk the way they showed Noah did cause after the surgery he lost his balance so writers please the only thing that was true is when Reid told them about being in the room Noah needed rest,cause when could not be in the room so soon part of it was for rest and catching any infection After all that my brother had cancer in the brain,he never walk agin got blind sadly he died at age 37
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Post by kevinlantojack on May 15, 2010 18:08:24 GMT -5
It might be Luke and Reid that made love for the first time ,cause every body am thinking of did it already,katie and Chris did it,lets just hope it LuRe
Fingers cross
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Post by kevinlantojack on May 13, 2010 19:15:38 GMT -5
I am so sorry I sign on the board to have fun,read people comments,watch what is going I don't have time to point out who spell the best cause its not everyone that speak or write the same I always loving coming to the board cause you meet great people who is always willing to help and make you understand when you can't so if my writing is too bad to read or its that awful I am so sorry am won't write another note again
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Post by kevinlantojack on May 13, 2010 19:07:36 GMT -5
"I love you last comment....excuse me if i've shoot from the hip lol" You know it still surprises me how rich the English language is.. for the previous question: Manuel asks his wife how the kids are, then Lili agreed to keep up appearances and signs a document that Nino drew up (the two won't live together). Manuel cries because he has lost everything: his family and Lalo.. :-( Thanks Flaco&Lalo for the info And don't be surprise about the english language just send me a dictionary I hope I spell everything right for your understanding ,I made a mistake that is something that might never happen to you cause you are brilliant and did not realize That's good some small people can make full at people expense wow go on with your bad self
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Post by kevinlantojack on May 13, 2010 18:40:32 GMT -5
If you mean the policeman I'm thinking of, he's faked evidence on Giselle's murder case, to frame Tato. Btw, I've just watched episode 91 (Wednesday's) and it seems now Lalo wants to protect his career. I missed the beginning though, so I'm waiting for a video of their talk to see what's his reasoning. Thank you Chrys that's the same police officer
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Post by kevinlantojack on May 13, 2010 16:45:55 GMT -5
@ masonville I like the "play-by-play" commentary with bdc and do you know an amazing coincidence? we were born the same day! January 22nd (on different years)! Oh shoot! I should have shoot off my mouth! ITA: Manuel should always play while having his shirt off! I'd like to be there watching him shooting those scenes! and what about a shooting session after that?? I'd worship those shots! I need shots of Fluoxetine to get through their breakup and a few additional shots to swallow Lalo's hanging out with that bimbo.. but maybe she's just a shooting star! I love to read your "Freudian rants", so shoot whenever you like!! and excuse me if I've shoot from the hip ! :8 I love you last comment....excuse me if i've shoot from the hip lol Nino is not that cold hearted after all he did love Giselle he would even kill for her after that he and i can have a drink
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Post by kevinlantojack on May 13, 2010 16:34:37 GMT -5
Lili and Manuel sign a confidentiality agreement (or non-disclosure agreement). Manuel tells Lili everything is over between him and Lalo and that the latter will keep his mouth shut. What was it that the two were taking about and why was Manuel crying?
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Post by kevinlantojack on May 13, 2010 16:31:23 GMT -5
from the next episode...does anyone else think that someone's bound to be shot to death I am so hoping its Mostaza,but don't let it be any of our boys make it be Candy coming to hang him by the balls
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Post by kevinlantojack on May 13, 2010 16:10:09 GMT -5
Is any one doing the english sub? There are part of the show that looks good,but have no idea what is going on cause its spanish it would be nice if some one would do a recap for us in english thanks
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Post by kevinlantojack on May 12, 2010 21:06:45 GMT -5
Where can I see this movie it looks good? Or if there is a link to it thanks I don't think it's out yet.. I just saw it was playing at the gay film festival in Toronto, so I looked it up. I really wanna see it too, but I think I have to wait for the DVD. thanks its look good I will look out for it
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Post by kevinlantojack on May 12, 2010 21:00:49 GMT -5
Why did they fired the young policeman? I love him so much
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Post by kevinlantojack on May 12, 2010 20:40:16 GMT -5
When the lovebugs started to get good the show is getting the axe darmn CBS
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Post by kevinlantojack on May 12, 2010 20:31:16 GMT -5
Jessiebanana am using your words Lily is totally a pie hole for real I went back to the video and she is trying her best to convince Luke Reid is wrong for him what about Noah Okay hold up Lily you are a TWART at that moment she was talking about her feeling towards Holden,that if it work out between Luke and Noah,it will work out between she ans Holden.Well Lilly know one wants to live him your world of I love him now and now I don't I was proud of Luke the minute Lily started picking on Reid( I love so much} he defended his honor right away and darn right Reid is not taking advantage of Luke LILY cause they broke up before Reid pledge is love to Luke Luke love Reid because of his bedside manners{me 2} and that face he is cute, Rude, Cold, Rude, Attractive,he smells like morning glory,a good kisser better than Noah,cannot wait to get him in the haysack right in my face mom,what Luke wanted to say but the flash back of Reid got in his way LOL I can dream can't I I love a bold person speak your mind that is why am in love with Reid. I guess why am dateless for 7years what am meeting are too much like Noah
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Post by kevinlantojack on May 12, 2010 19:59:13 GMT -5
jessie you are not a big fan of lily
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Post by kevinlantojack on May 12, 2010 19:49:49 GMT -5
Thanks, Joanna ...but I think you missed this one IvanIV you and Joanna are a laugh but only in Phillip dreams
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