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Post by tihkon2 on Jul 1, 2008 14:01:02 GMT -5
many thanks to sunnygeri for translating the latest spoilers. Aww....I don't like that Charlie is going to blame Christian for the attack on Olli. We all know that's going to really make Christian feel terrible. And the boys try to bring to light homophobia in the boxing world, but it's with difficulty. I'm a tiny bit worried this may end up with one of them getting really hurt by the end.
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Post by tihkon2 on Jul 1, 2008 12:50:17 GMT -5
very cute loveommx!
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Post by tihkon2 on Jul 1, 2008 12:28:57 GMT -5
Yay! Nanna!Oh...we get a kiss today too! Lola... are you going to translate the latest spoilers?
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Post by tihkon2 on Jun 29, 2008 16:35:14 GMT -5
Nanna has graciously re-subtitled another older episode. This one is from February 18th. The famous episode where Coco slaps Christian, he takes off, Olli and Olivia come home to find Coco crying. Olli goes to find Christian and leaves Olivia(!) to comfort Coco... a-ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!!! (sorry, but seriously...)
Olivia "accidentally" tells Coco that Olli and Christian have kissed. Coco confronts both Olli, and later, Christian. She asks Chris if he's gay....
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Post by tihkon2 on Jun 24, 2008 21:46:52 GMT -5
seven14, I wouldn't worry about it too much. Why? Because those are still pictures where the actors posed specifically for them. They aren't screen captures made from the actual video shot. Publicity stills are notoriously not exactly accurate in depicting the exact expressions the actors will have in a scene. I would also venture to say that, so far nothing has been as bad as people assumed, so I see no reason for that to change regarding the upcoming scenes.
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Post by tihkon2 on Jun 24, 2008 21:40:33 GMT -5
Mikey, Great job on the vid! I really thought the part where the kissing montage is actually edited to the drum beats was awesome!
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Post by tihkon2 on Jun 24, 2008 19:19:25 GMT -5
I checked out the high resolution versions of the latest spoiler pics over at seifenslash on LiveJournal, and Axel IS about to beat Olli with one of those telescoping baton thingies.
So , it's not a spoon. ;D
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Post by tihkon2 on Jun 24, 2008 17:31:17 GMT -5
Me too!
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Post by tihkon2 on Jun 24, 2008 17:15:52 GMT -5
jsg03jdI'm wondering if that will actually be said at the boxing ring after C wins the fight, along with the kiss. But that would be nice after Olli's beating as well. Either way works for dramatic purposes.
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Post by tihkon2 on Jun 24, 2008 16:57:07 GMT -5
Never mind....
<deep breaths>
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Post by tihkon2 on Jun 24, 2008 16:46:53 GMT -5
IvanI just made the same observation to someone in a PM, and also yesterday. I am most definately NOT watching the same story as some other people on this board. The one I'm watching has so far been a mostly feel good story with some ups and downs, about two nice young men in love. I'll take my version over the others I'm reading about! ;D
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Post by tihkon2 on Jun 24, 2008 16:38:19 GMT -5
The only reply I have to that since of course, that is your opinion, is the same one I say to the "Olli is a manipulator" thingy.
Do you think that is the writers' intent? To portray Christian as a potential boyfriend/ girlfriend abuser.
I believe that is not the intention of the production team.
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Post by tihkon2 on Jun 24, 2008 16:26:00 GMT -5
Dude... I'm kind of sitting here in shock.
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Post by tihkon2 on Jun 24, 2008 16:17:12 GMT -5
Wow.
I don't think Olli's a manipulator, and I most definately do not agree that Christian is a potential abuser. What Lola regarded as a big deal, ie: Collar grabbing and a shove and a verbal threat to kick Olli's ass were issued over a period of months before they were a couple. They are two guys, and at that time C was "straight" and with a girlfriend. He had just been kissed on the lips by the man who also made out with his girlfriend.
I see no correlation here at all between the behavior Christian exhibited during that timeframe and the behavior of an abusive boyfriend.
None.
To put it simply, it was exactly how I would expect an average straight guy to react in those situations.
There has not been one instance that I can recall since they've become a couple that would lead me in even the most wildest imagination to even entertain the notion that C would abuse Olli.
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Post by tihkon2 on Jun 24, 2008 15:29:29 GMT -5
I still say, that it's my personal opinion that there is no intent to show or portray Olli as manipulative. I think it's simply a case of people seeing something through the filters of their own life. And I guess my life experience hasn't made me see Olli as manipulative.
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Post by tihkon2 on Jun 24, 2008 14:30:21 GMT -5
Amen , Wisconsin. I agree. I don't agree that Olli is manipulative , and I don't think there is any intent whatsoever on the writer's part to show him as manipulative. As ever, just my opinion.
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Post by tihkon2 on Jun 24, 2008 13:26:24 GMT -5
OO! Burn!
Poor Miriam. She wasn't even an actress right? Didn't she win a viewer contest or something?
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Post by tihkon2 on Jun 24, 2008 13:20:29 GMT -5
* huddles with Biglug ...
(erm...that sounds kinda dirty...)
re: Thore's breathing
Well I'm just happy he is breathing. But seriously. I never noticed and if I never noticed, then it's obviously not an issue with me. And let me say, I watch the clips several times while helping Nanna with the translations. I'll put forth that it may be a conscious decision on Thore's part, or it may not be. But I would venture that apparently no one at the studio thinks it's a problem or an issue. So far it seems to be a trivial issue with a few folks on the internet. And I'm not one of them.
;D
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Post by tihkon2 on Jun 24, 2008 12:47:06 GMT -5
Thanks for digging out the latest spoilers Lola! I'm very happy about them. (er...I mean I'm not happy Olli gets the shit kicked out of him...but you know what I mean. ;D) I think this will offer the actors some good scenes to play out and i look forward to seeing the fight and the outing and Axel being a cock and Christian being horrified and caring for poor Olli etc...etc..etc... I love the dichotomy of them having one of the happiest days of their relationship (C winning, publicly proclaiming their relationship)and then one of the most awful days (Olli getting attacked) . Should make for great entertainment! Also....to me it looks like maybe Axel is beating Olli with a large spoon! ;D ETA: Yeah Ollian, that's actually what it looks like.
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Post by tihkon2 on Jun 23, 2008 21:36:59 GMT -5
Awesome first post seven14!!
I think mine was something like:
"Gee Christian and Oli are cute tee hee!"
;D
I agree that Thore seems to have risen to the occasion and I'm sure that has something to do with the obvious chemistry he and Jo share.
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Post by tihkon2 on Jun 23, 2008 19:47:48 GMT -5
OK, here's the English subtitled version of today's clip:
Thanks Ivan and Nanna!
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Post by tihkon2 on Jun 23, 2008 18:40:21 GMT -5
Lola, Please don't misunderstand me. I would never tell people not to analyze. But if some people like to analyze and make speculations, there are others such as myself who do not believe that the story warrants it. So should I not post my opinion that my belief is that many things speculated here are unintended by the writers. And my opinion that some theories expressed here have no basis in fact. In other words, I think that if people can speculate until the cows come home on here, then my saying that I personally don't find that the story warrants the analysis, and so I personally don't analyze it, is just as valid. No? re: Olli and Christian hooking up. I personally don't think that it took any deep analysis to think that C and O would hook up. I think it was a real possibility as early as the camping trip for a good number of people to think that was a way the story could go.
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Post by tihkon2 on Jun 23, 2008 17:25:00 GMT -5
Or yeah, what Ivan said.
;D
I take what Olli says at face value. And what Christian says as well. SO Olli says he'll always help Chris. I accept that. Christian says Olli gives him courage. I accept that.
Maybe I'm being unimaginative or blindly accepting, but hey, It works for me and that's why (with the exception of Judith/Fabian) I enjoy the story, and don't have these speculations about character motivations.
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Post by tihkon2 on Jun 23, 2008 17:18:06 GMT -5
Hi Sheepie! (waves vigorously!) With that said. I truly believe there's some over analyzing going on here and I really really really believe that the writers do not intend to hint at or even suggest half the things I'm reading in this thread. That's just my belief mind you. Just as others think Olli has ulterior motives or that the writers are showing a pattern of this or that behavior. You all can entertain yourselves to your hearts' content, but yeah, just thought I'd put forth the view that things are not as complicated or even intended to be as complicated as being debated.
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Post by tihkon2 on Jun 23, 2008 16:15:58 GMT -5
perfect smiley Amber...
;D
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