joanna
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Post by joanna on Aug 4, 2010 6:50:24 GMT -5
when I saw this I was hoping he would grab the tower instead ;D Freudian slip there, lyra?! ;D
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Post by lyra85 on Aug 4, 2010 6:56:14 GMT -5
when I saw this I was hoping he would grab the tower instead ;D Freudian slip there, lyra?! ;D LOL well, I meant towel but obviously I was thinking in something (*drools*) else ;D
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Post by nadine on Aug 4, 2010 6:56:34 GMT -5
I'll start with the shallow part, Christian in a towel made my day He really is a fine specism of a man and that whole scene was adorable. The make out scene on the couch was *thud* it was totally awesome!! I LOVE Chrolli like this, happy and passionate!(although it should've lasted longer lol!) Now onto the serious stuff, it was a weird episode! I'm not liking this whole HIV s/l for the boys. It's rushed and haphazard, and do the writers really expect us to believe that neither of the boys haven't been tested or talked about this since getting together, nearly three years ago?!? What rock do they think we've been living under all this time?! I don't mind Chrolli having to deal with gritty s/ls if the subject matter is dealt with in a serious and well written way, especially as HIV and AIDS is a serious issue among both gay and straight people. But i doubt this is going to happen this time, which actually saddens me. It could've been a really good way of pushing Christian and Olli to the front again, there could've been a build up to it, but instead what we got was too rushed and not well thought out. It just seems compltely pointless! And as for R1, don't get me started. I'm hating her more and more as each day passes!! What the hell was that all about, asking Christian about gays being more passionate, and 'open' relationships. I'm glad that Christian set her strainght, that him and Olli don'ty have one, and don't want one!! Stupid girl!! GRRRRRRR!!!!! Last note, if the writers can't come up with a decent serious plot for the boys, keep to the fluffy stuff, Christian and Olli talking about their wedding, being playful, and some sexy times!!
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Post by thunderkat on Aug 4, 2010 8:59:09 GMT -5
, "well, remember when I stayed longer than planned in Ibiza...." WORD I've been waiting for the other shoe to drop on that since FOREVER. Now THAT would be some good Sh*t. I mean did you see Olli? He even flirts with his Freaking AUNT for god's sake. I'm not saying he's an uncontrollable sex-crazed freak... I'm sure Olli has magnificent control... The thing that makes this just freaking impossible to believe is that neither Olli or Christian has not been tested for the entire 2 years they've been together But this must be the case because of the fear that Olli shows, they obviously don't know their HIV status, or at least haven't for two years. So then, perhaps Olli and Christian were tested, before getting together and were given a clean bill of health each, and decided on monogamous condom-less sex. Sigh, the only way this stupid thing makes sense is if Olli hooked up w. Jonas when he first came back (he could be the guy who "showed Olli his records"), just a random dude he hooked up w. before Timo. Olli gets tested, gets a clean bill of health but in actuality he is one of the .04% that gets a false negative, and it must be this possibility, that the virus went undetected in him and then he transmitted to Christian, that must be freaking him out so badly now. If we decide not to accept statistical near - impossibilities.. then Ibiza infidelity is the next best explanation...and the writers just don't have the guts to do that to Olli. fortunately...i do...
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Post by JustaMannsMan on Aug 4, 2010 11:43:59 GMT -5
ROFLMFAO!!!!!!! Actually, I just took an AIDS class though school and we were told that two HIV negative people still need to use condoms together because each virus is different and works differently in each body, so it's dangerous to share your own particular strand with anyone else. I'd suggest you ask your prof to complete the following equation: 0 + 0 = ? I'm all for scaring people - a la "assume everyone is positive" - but there's a limit. Negative is negative.
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lotuscat
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Post by lotuscat on Aug 4, 2010 13:45:17 GMT -5
Well, except for sex between partners that are HIV- in a completely monogamous relationship. I know, I know... but I'm just sayin'... It’s the “completely monogamous” that’s the tricky part. But yeah, I got ya. LOL, but I would love to see this explored. If only the writers were this imaginative. But of all the beautiful Mediterranean hunks to choose from frolicking on the beaches of Ibiza there’s no way I’d buy Olli hooking up with Jonas there. No way, not there. Not anywhere really, but especially not on the sexy sandy beaches of Ibiza. And then again, if this tearful confession ever happened, something tells me the wedding would be off permanently.
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Post by jhwalker on Aug 4, 2010 16:58:34 GMT -5
Discussed this some time back, in the spoilers section, but worth repeating.
The HIV scare does not strike me as unrealistic at all. The exact same thing happened to me and my partner in real life several years ago. One of my partner's exes let us know he had recently been diagnosed as HIV+ and, though we were both tested before we got together and have continued to be tested yearly since (we've been together now 20 years), we immediately scheduled another test, just in case! For $20 (or so), why not?
And we got the results overnight, just like we have for years and years - the days of waiting for weeks for a result are *long* past. In fact, even the first HIV test I took (in 1987) took exactly three days to produce the negative result.
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joanna
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Post by joanna on Aug 7, 2010 9:11:31 GMT -5
Just watched Nanna's subbed vid....Personally found it quite disrespectful (to the viewer/those who worked on the scene/the audience) that just as Olli...being brilliantly/emotionally acted by Jo...was starting to tell Christian that he used to date Jonas and so could be HIV-positive too (and so, by extension, meaning Christian could now be too), text scrolled across the bottom of the screen, talking about the VL/Marienhof Beachvolleyball-Cup! Grr. That scene should have just been left be. Lugia has now kindly uploaded a 'clean' version of this scene to youtube...Danke, Lugia :-*x.... www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzFp0VVZAiw
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Post by thunderkat on Aug 7, 2010 9:41:10 GMT -5
Well, except for sex between partners that are HIV- in a completely monogamous relationship. I know, I know... but I'm just sayin'... It’s the “completely monogamous” that’s the tricky part. But yeah, I got ya. LOL, but I would love to see this explored. If only the writers were this imaginative. But of all the beautiful Mediterranean hunks to choose from frolicking on the beaches of Ibiza there’s no way I’d buy Olli hooking up with Jonas there. No way, not there. Not anywhere really, but especially not on the sexy sandy beaches of Ibiza. And then again, if this tearful confession ever happened, something tells me the wedding would be off permanently. lotuscat. 1. BEER GOGGLES 2. Mile high club. I believe Jonas benefitted from both. Everyone looks good in a tight little stewards costume, and they look REALLY great when they're bringing you free drinks on an airplane left and right...and up and down... and in and out
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lotuscat
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Post by lotuscat on Aug 7, 2010 16:37:21 GMT -5
lotuscat. 1. BEER GOGGLES 2. Mile high club. I believe Jonas benefitted from both. Everyone looks good in a tight little stewards costume, and they look REALLY great when they're bringing you free drinks on an airplane left and right...and up and down... and in and outThunderkat. 1. BEER GOGGLES Oh hell yeah. This is an essential component for buying into Olli’s hookup with Jonas. Might as well include beer hat and beer scarf while we’re at it. And I love ya, but… 2. Mile high club. All right, so when Olli was leaving Ibiza, where there was an endless supply of hot, sexy, tanned hunks vying for his attention, I suppose I can imagine that he was feeling a little tired of perfection. Maybe even a trifle bored. I mean really, how much Mediterranean gorgeousness can one be expected to tolerate? So, Olli was now in the mood for something less exciting, something different, something . . . . Um, no. Still not feeling it. Whatever happened with Jonas happened in an alternate reality for sure, but it happened before Olli left Dusseldorf the first time. In fact, it was one of the factors that inspired him to flee the city. When Olli woke up the next morning after sex with Jonas, he decided that he was obviously not ok in more ways than one. And he needed to go on a 5 year journey on the high seas as punishment so that never ever again would he, number one, partake of unprotected sex but number two, never again would he let himself fall under the spell of a banished elf from Rivendell. ;D
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