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Post by joanna on Aug 3, 2010 11:26:28 GMT -5
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Post by sylstyle on Aug 3, 2010 12:02:37 GMT -5
I have to say I was quite impressed by today's epp, very well written, and especially very well performed. Jo was incredible today, Thore too but I guess he will be more concerned within the next episode(s) And we learn few thing ;D I mean of course Christian is scared for Olli, but his face shows us is concerned too Bad bad boys doing it bareback before getting married ;D I've been reading a lot of comments saying that most of girls here thought they were gay men trapped in woman bodies ... I guess Rebecca is in the same boat ;D The way she looked at them while kissing lol ... or she's still in love Sylvain
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Post by chrolliforever7 on Aug 3, 2010 12:14:05 GMT -5
Today's ep was good! Jo was again AMAZING, Thore lookin gooood but yeah, nothing new there either...and now after watching the ep, I really dont think Jonas is THATTT bad! He's kinda cute in a...weird...homely way! but yeah, cant wait till tomorrow, or whenever I'll be able to watch tomorrow's episode (goin on a small trip). Hopefully the hotel gets wifi!!!
And even tho its dangerous, I can't help but think its SO HOT that chrolli's been doing it bareback..
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Post by gelybi on Aug 3, 2010 12:13:40 GMT -5
I have to say I was quite impressed by today's epp, very well written, and especially very well performed. Jo was incredible today, Thore too but I guess he will be more concerned within the next episode(s) And we learn few thing ;D I mean of course Christian is scared for Olli, but his face shows us is concerned too Bad bad boys doing it bareback before getting married ;D I've been reading a lot of comments saying that most of girls here thought they were gay men trapped in woman bodies ... I guess Rebecca is in the same boat ;D The way she looked at them while kissing lol ... or she's still in love Sylvain I guess you're joking here, don't you? Reassure me please ;D
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Post by gelybi on Aug 3, 2010 12:21:09 GMT -5
Today's ep was good! Jo was again AMAZING, Thore lookin gooood but yeah, nothing new there either...and now after watching the ep, I really dont think Jonas is THATTT bad! He's kinda cute in a...weird...homely way! but yeah, cant wait till tomorrow, or whenever I'll be able to watch tomorrow's episode (goin on a small trip). Hopefully the hotel gets wifi!!! And even tho its dangerous, I can't help but think its SO HOT that chrolli's been doing it bareback..Oh Chrolli...mmmhh, I think THAT might be the secret purpose of this SL...I always say writers are evil, but sometimes they feel the need to please cholli-fans
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Post by I ♥ Blaine on Aug 3, 2010 12:21:16 GMT -5
Sylvain - Comparing us to RE-BARF-CCA has just landed you eternal whipping with a thick piece of rope lit on [glow=red,2,300]fire[/glow]. I agree about bareback Chrolli being hot. So hot. ;D Haha the word reminds of reading a comment by someone online who had dubbed Brokeback Mountain "Bareback Mounting"!!! ;D ...at that time I just thought bareback meant a naked back. .... You have all made me wiser.
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Post by sylstyle on Aug 3, 2010 12:24:51 GMT -5
Sylvain - Comparing us to RE-BARF-CCA has just landed you eternal whipping with a thick piece of rope lit on fire. Is that supposed to be a punishment ;D Ok sorry that's why I wrote or she must be still in love with Christian sorry girls Sylvain
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Post by lyddy3 on Aug 3, 2010 12:25:16 GMT -5
I feel it only necessary to say THANK YOU VL WRITERS. Am I mistaken in thinking that not only did you give us a Chrolli sofa make out session, but Christian was also topless in the process?? Well done, writers, well done.
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Post by MercuryMay on Aug 3, 2010 12:30:51 GMT -5
Apartment Olli and Charlie are standing at the door, talking about the redecoration of her and Arno's apartment. Christian walks into the room wearing only a towel and free weights, he greets Charlie. Olli turns around to look at Christian and whistles. Charlie leaves and Olli explains what happened to the apartment next door. Olli appreciatively ogles Christian's body. Christian looks at him and - in a deep voice - says: "What's wrong?". "Nothing", Olli replies, smiling. He takes the free weights away from Christian and says: "It's looks like we're alone. Constantin is studying, Nathalie too, Andi's at the construction site. He pushes Christian over to the couch, kissing his neck. "Okay", Christian says. They sit down and starting making out.
No Limits Rebecca is in a sad mood, talking about Tristan on the phone. Olli and Christian enter No Limits, Olli says it's a pity that they already have to start working again. They kiss. Christian asks Rebecca if she's on her way to Königsbrunn. "Can I give you a lift?", she wants to know. "That'd be great, I'm late.", he replies and turns to Olli. Miriam says, "Look at how happy they are again!". They both watch Christian and Olli embracing. "Shall we leave?", Christian asks Rebecca. Olli turns around, seeing a guy and says "Jonas? What are you doing here?", they hug. Christian and Rebecca watch them. Rebecca wonders who that may be. Christian has no idea and turns to leave. Olli talks to Jonas "I haven't seen you for ages! How are you doing? What have you been up to?".
Castle kitchen Rebecca and Christian walk into the castle kitchen. Rebecca says "The horseback ride was an awesome idea". "Did you expect something else?", Christian asks, "you're looking much more relaxed now". He wants to know what's wrong with her. She replies "the less you know, the better, believe me".
Rebecca asks him if gay couples are more passionate. Christian wonders what makes her ask that question. "Is it like that?", she inquires. "How am I supposed to answer that?", he says, "that always depends on the two people who are together, doesn't it? Regardless if it's two women, two men or a woman and a man. Doesn't matter."
Translation from the sneak-peek, thanks Joanna and Lugia! Rebecca: Yes, I just thought since... I just wanted to, well... you hear things... about gays. Yes, well... about open relationships and such. Christian: Yes, we don't have one and we don't want to have one. And now you'll tell me why you have such peculiar thoughts in the first place. Rebecca: Uh. Yes, well, I... You ARE curious about who this guy was, who was at No Limits, and who Olli has hugged? Christian: Yes, sure. But if you want to allude to the fact that I'm jealous... no, I'm not. Olli and I, we have experienced so much together, we... We were at the bottom and together have fought ourselves back to the top. We're getting married. And so you're not jealous anymore. So you know, the only thing he's telling him is how happy we are. And that's a great feeling, believe me.
While Christian is talking we see Olli walking down the street with Jonas. Jonas tells him something, Olli looks shocked and hugs him.
Apartment Olli's talking on the phone :"Can't you do it any faster? Okay, then I´ll ask somewhere else. Bye." Christian comes home, greeting him. "How was your afternoon with your unknown friend?", he wants to know. "Jonas", Olli says. "Jonas?" Christian repeats questioningly, "should I be familiar with that name?". "I don't think so, he's an old acquaintance, haven't seen in ages", Olli replies. "Then you've surely had a lot to talk about. Did you tell him that you're with the coolest guy in Düsseldorf?" "That was pretty obvious earlier", Olli says, seemingly annoyed. "That's right!" Christian smiles. Christian walks over to Olli, embraces him from behind. "Christian..." "Yeah, yeah, let me guess, he was probably pretty jealous!" Olli tries to avoid Christian's touch, says "Can you be serious for a moment?" "What?" Olli looks at him, sad, shaking his head, "Sorry, I need to go", he leaves. Christian stands in the kitchen, asking "What's going on?", but Olli is already gone. He sees that Olli forgot his wallet and runs after him.
Outside Christian runs down the street, mistaking another guy for Olli. He calls Olli's cell phone and finds him sitting on a bench just around the corner. "There you are", he says, "you forgot your wallet". Olli doesn't answer, he's crying. Christian: "What's wrong with you?"
Apartment Olli's sitting on the couch, still looking sad. Christian: "You didn't say a single word since we returned. What's wrong, all of a sudden? This morning you were in a good mood." "I'm sorry", Olli replies. "Is it because of Jonas?", Christian wants to know. Olli says: "Jonas is HIV positive". Christian: "I'm sorry for him." Olli: "Me too, but it's not just about Jonas. Jonas and I, we've been involved. He didn't know back then, but he's already been positive." Christian: "And now you think, you're…?" He looks shocked and concerned.
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Post by chrollifan211 on Aug 3, 2010 12:30:56 GMT -5
they said they havent been using protection???
I wish i could understand german
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Post by chrolliforever7 on Aug 3, 2010 12:35:58 GMT -5
MM, ur the best! THANK YOU SO MUCH!!! ;D ;D
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Post by MercuryMay on Aug 3, 2010 12:38:22 GMT -5
they said they havent been using protection??? I wish i could understand german No, they didn't say that. At least not today. That's Sylvain's wishful thinking. This was a great episode but I need to have a shallow moment: Jeeez, they were looking gooooood!!!! Christian with that wifebeater and open shirt? It's getting hot in here...
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Post by lyddy3 on Aug 3, 2010 12:43:04 GMT -5
Christian with that wifebeater and open shirt? It's getting hot in here... Mmmmm. Agreed. I swear he gets hotter by the day
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Post by sylstyle on Aug 3, 2010 12:44:26 GMT -5
they said they havent been using protection??? I wish i could understand german No, they didn't say that. At least not today. That's Sylvain's wishful thinking. This was a great episode but I need to have a shallow moment: Jeeez, they were looking gooooood!!!! Christian with that wifebeater and open shirt? It's getting hot in here... Me ;D nah impossible And No actually they never said that and I'll join Kes on that matter, I find it sad they brough up HIV like that especially after the Welt-AIDS-Tag Vlog Sylvain
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Post by sylstyle on Aug 3, 2010 12:49:24 GMT -5
Thank you Joanna so that I have enough to have a night full of smutty dreams .... I meant sweet dreams ;D Sylvain
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Post by joanna on Aug 3, 2010 12:55:57 GMT -5
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Post by gelybi on Aug 3, 2010 12:58:21 GMT -5
No, they didn't say that. At least not today. That's Sylvain's wishful thinking. This was a great episode but I need to have a shallow moment: Jeeez, they were looking gooooood!!!! Christian with that wifebeater and open shirt? It's getting hot in here... Me ;D nah impossible And No actually they never said that and I'll join Kes on that matter, I find it sad they brough up HIV like that especially after the Welt-AIDS-Tag Vlog Sylvain As said many times before while all this were a spoiler, this whole SL doesn't make any sense, especially after that vlog, but at this point you should be used to it. It's absolutely ridiculous to even think that two responsable adults in a commited relationship won't be doing any necessary test before starting thinking about unprotected sex. But this is not RL, this is VL They pretend they can't see that we're pretending not to see. You see? It's very clear! ;D Shallow note: Can they both get any hotter? MyGod!
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Post by sylstyle on Aug 3, 2010 13:01:23 GMT -5
Me ;D nah impossible And No actually they never said that and I'll join Kes on that matter, I find it sad they brough up HIV like that especially after the Welt-AIDS-Tag Vlog Sylvain As said many times before while all this were a spoiler, this whole SL doesn't make any sense, especially after that vlog, but at this point you should be used to it. It's absolutely ridiculous to even think that two responsable adults in a commited relationship won't be doing any necessary test before starting thinking about unprotected sex. But this is not RL, this is VL They pretend they can't see that we're pretending not to see. You see? It's very clear! ;D absolutely clear ;D I know and as MM said "maybe" they didn't do it bareback ;D Sylvain
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Post by gelybi on Aug 3, 2010 13:08:36 GMT -5
As said many times before while all this were a spoiler, this whole SL doesn't make any sense, especially after that vlog, but at this point you should be used to it. It's absolutely ridiculous to even think that two responsable adults in a commited relationship won't be doing any necessary test before starting thinking about unprotected sex. But this is not RL, this is VL They pretend they can't see that we're pretending not to see. You see? It's very clear! ;D absolutely clear ;D I know and as MM said "maybe" they didn't do it bareback ;D Sylvain We don't really need them to say it, their concern is enough to know. And really, after 3 years...is anyone seriously doubting it?
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Post by luckycharm on Aug 3, 2010 13:09:39 GMT -5
As predicted, I feared I would be disappointed with this SL, and as it played out, my fears came to fruition. I'll hold off complete judgement until this SL wraps up in the oncoming day(s). On a positive [so not a pun ] note: Olli's acting was awesome today. As was Jessica's in the beginning of today's episode. BUT.......for now........ How Rebecca asks such asinine questions, through what logic, is beyond me.....as she, AND EVERYONE IN DUSSLEDORF, knows of Christian's jealous tendency. "Open relationships" Like really? Does that thought and Christian ever go together? EVER?!!! So, Rebecca was used as a tool to set up the SL, for the audience's eyes, so that the inner thoughts (their position on the matter) of the main characters (C & O) could be relayed to the audience, through a dialogue with an outside character......until the main characters have their final resolution, SL wraps up, as they finally talk TO each other. Jonas was ugly and looked like a wimp. I think what is bothering me about his casting choice are two-folds: (1) the shallow lens through which I see the guy evokes disbelief in me that he and Olli were ever together, and (2) it looked like they chose a guy who looked drained, sickly, not very physically radiant/strong/healthy. If it's a case of (2), there's some bad generalizations being manifested in VL. Whatever.....spoilerish: if such contrived SL is needed to make the audience believe that Christian gets *serious* about Olli/himself and their long-term future, and actually put his all, finally, into the wedding..........then, this is not my cup of tea. I don't like the idea of evoking love, out of a fear of losing love; I'd rather it be through a positive medium; like exhuberant feelings of joy and contentment of wanting to keep said love. E.g., when they had a Bavarian picnic, and the love and devotion, and complete rapture in Christian's eyes, as he sat rooted, hypnotized by Olli blabbering on about something as trite as cloud-gazing. That. spoke. volumes! (in a positive way) (Or even the episodes before this, when Christian made some awesome declarations of his love for Olli - growing old together, etc) And, as this subject (HIV) is quite important to the gay community, I don't know why the flavour with which it was done on VL, with needing to put certain stereotypes on Chrolli (when we know those are not even in their equation)....seems, well...... ...whatever. so over this. **** Thanks, regardless, to the usual gang, for your ever-prompt hard work in getting us this episode in all its forms.
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Post by lotuscat on Aug 3, 2010 13:08:26 GMT -5
This was a great episode but I need to have a shallow moment: Jeeez, they were looking gooooood!!!! Christian with that wifebeater and open shirt? It's getting hot in here...[/b] Oh my, yes, definitely getting and arriving at hotness. We need a nice cool Pacific breeze, or maybe we don't? ;D And thank you for the wonderful translations! And to Joanna for the great caps and to Nanna and Paul too!
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Post by joanna on Aug 3, 2010 13:14:25 GMT -5
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Post by valso on Aug 3, 2010 13:24:00 GMT -5
Whatever... if such contrived SL is needed to make the audience believe that Christian gets *serious* about Olli/himself and their long-term future, and actually put his all, finally, into the wedding..........then, this is not my cup of tea. I agree that the sl looks a little contrived but I don't see at all (on screen) that it's a tool to make Christian realize that he is committed to Olli and serious about their future together, on the contrary it seems to me a tool to speed things up.I think the episodes before this one have already showed how deep is his connection with Olli and his intention to marry him in the future. If this wouldn't be enough what he told Rebecca today is another proof. As usual thanks to MM and Joanna and Nanna and Paul for all your work ;D
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Post by luckycharm on Aug 3, 2010 13:29:15 GMT -5
Whatever..... if such contrived SL is needed to make the audience believe that Christian gets *serious* about Olli/himself and their long-term future, and actually put his all, finally, into the wedding..........then, this is not my cup of tea. I agree that the sl looks a little contrived but I don't see at all (on screen) that it's a tool to make Christian realize that he is committed to Olli and serious about their future together, on the contrary it seems to me a tool to speed things up.[/color] I think the episodes before this one have already showed how deep is his connection with Olli and his intention to marry him in the future. If this wouldn't be enough what he told Rebecca today is another proof. As usual thanks to MM and Joanna and Nanna and Paul for all your work ;D[/quote] Heh, sorry, if you can either delete what you quoted of mine, or white it out, like I did ^, that'd be great....as that line of thought is kind of spoilerish (i.e., I was commenting on this SL as a whole, from what the spoilers said about Christian.) Sorry again. Oops.
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Post by MercuryMay on Aug 3, 2010 13:32:26 GMT -5
I know and as MM said "maybe" they didn't do it bareback ;D Not to be difficult, but... I know I have a bad memory, but even going back and reading everything I wrote I still can't find the part where I supposedly said that. All I said was they didn't actually say they did. Oh my, yes, definitely getting and arriving at hotness. We need a nice cool Pacific breeze, or maybe we don't? ;D And thank you for the wonderful translations! And to Joanna, too, for the great caps! We definitely do, honey, we definitely do. I'll talk to you about that soon! Btw, SPOILER: I do understand and agree with the critisism about this HIV "storyline", but aren't we talking about something that hasn't actually happened yet? All we know today is that Jonas has returned and that Olli's afraid he might have HIV, too. Without reading spoilers we don't know how this is going to develop. Just my opinion.EDIT: Oh, I just saw that luckycharm has already modified the post. Thanks for that!
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