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Post by tihkon2 on Apr 12, 2010 22:45:39 GMT -5
No. Rob is the Antichrist(-ian).
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Post by luckycharm on Apr 12, 2010 22:49:53 GMT -5
heh..I've seen that on youtube this evening. But until they show me otherwise, I don't believe it. But the disturbing thing I saw there was someone telling people that don't like Rob because he's a drug dealer, "He's a Drug Angel!" What the hell? A drug angel??? Dealing drugs is good now? I LIVE for the comments to Chrolli videos. They never fail to make me LOL. Case in point: Drug Angel. ;D Same person also commented that some people liking Rob, while others don't, is a matter of subjective "OBJECTIVE opinion". Heh. I chalk it up to little kiddies, livin' and lovin' the baaa-baa-baa-baad-to-the-bone fantasy. And, I dare say, the person may have issues finding the right words.
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Post by JustaMannsMan on Apr 12, 2010 22:51:50 GMT -5
No. Rob is the Antichrist(-ian). ;D And another AMEN to that!
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Post by brownsugar on Apr 12, 2010 22:56:39 GMT -5
I personally think that the end game is Chrolli well of COURSE you do!!! Everybody in here should!! Cuz they ARE!!!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D[/quot I though today's episode was superb minus the continuation of Rebecca's unprecedented screen time. One of things I loved most about this episode is it was made clear that Christian really doesn't have any feelings for Rebecca. She was almost invisible to him at NL. He was completely fixated on Olli chatting it up with Robert. And the show down between Christian and Robert was intense and delicious. Robert must have the biggest balls in town to want to be right up in the face of Olli's boyfriend...who is an ex boxer. I truly would fear for Rob's life if he were to get into a real fight with Christian. He would get the living hell beat out of him. By the half smirk on Christian's face when he told Olli about kissing Rebecca, its obvious he thought Olli wasn't going to be so hurt, but Olli was crushed. And it's then Christian began to panick. I loved how Olli slept ;D while Christian and David talked at a normal volume while preparing coffee. Either Olli is loosing his hearing or he was pretend sleeping. Heck...Christian dose that all the time. But I loved the little bunny he was holding so tightly. Although, that furry stuffed animal is no substitute for Christian. Anybody want to bet Olli is right back beside his warm and cuddly boyfriend tonight while bunny is kicked to the curb. As for Rebecca...total idiocy. I have no idea why Christian would want to spill his guts to this girl who just initiated a kiss with him. He didn't really go to his brother and discuss how rough things were between him and Olli. And David is at the ready and waiting. Also Andie, who granted is a little pre-occupied right now, but he would give an ear if needed. I hated with a passion all the time wasted on Rebecca's presence. And Jasmine Lord's acting, which never elevates past high school level, declined to kindergarten status today. What I wished was touched upon more was Olli's insecurity with Christian kissing women. I really want that area explored more. Christian, who has declared himself gay on several occasions, will return to the breast, so to speak, when things are bad between him and Olli. He hasn't choosen to speak with the other men around him but to females. I would love to know why? Once again the acting by Jo and Thore was excellent. And Max is also doing on heck of a job. Thank you nanna, tihkon, joanna and to all others involved.
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Post by tihkon2 on Apr 12, 2010 22:59:56 GMT -5
I thought that at first too , Luckycharm, until I saw the rest of the post, saying something like ..." don't be so angry at Rob. You should pretend you like Rob and you'll feel better!" ;D
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Post by thunderkat on Apr 12, 2010 23:00:43 GMT -5
::sitting back and basking in the awesomeness of these posts:: and finding herself strangely curious about this mysterious bunny... "Drug Angel" even I wouldn't go that far. But anti-christ(ian) might be appropriate, after all, the antichrist is supposed to be a charismatic figure
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Post by JustaMannsMan on Apr 12, 2010 23:05:06 GMT -5
I thought that at first too , Luckycharm, until I saw the rest of the post, saying something ..." don't be so angry at Rob. You should pretend you like Rob and you'll feel better!" ;D Well, it works for some people on this board. ;D (t-kat: oh, lighten up. Here, have a banana: )
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Post by lizg12 on Apr 12, 2010 23:07:35 GMT -5
How fake did Olli look lying on the couch pretending to be asleep whilst clutching a toy rabbit? My answer to this is in the fanfic folder because, well, it's 'too hard' to write something that makes sense to put in this folder ;D ;D
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Post by thunderkat on Apr 12, 2010 23:07:38 GMT -5
::VENGEFULLY CHOPS BANANA INTO PIECES AND GOES BACK TO OBSESSIVELY CHANTING ROB'S NAME::
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Post by JustaMannsMan on Apr 12, 2010 23:10:01 GMT -5
::VENGEFULLY CHOPS BANANA INTO PIECES AND GOES BACK TO OBSESSIVELY CHANTING ROB'S NAME::
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Post by tihkon2 on Apr 12, 2010 23:10:13 GMT -5
T-KatI'll admit that. Rob is very charismatic in my opinion. I thought he was devilishly awesome today. (I still hope Christian drives over him with a steamroller though!)
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Post by mycatfox on Apr 12, 2010 23:10:25 GMT -5
I confess I was one of Rob's fans: I think the actor is good, the guy is really hot, and the lines he delivers are great His character was truly interesting, it has great potential. But the mystery is over, and finally knowing that he's just a shameless drug dealer, decidedly amoral ...well, is a complete for me. I would've loved if his character had been written in a very different way: he really falling for Olli, for example
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Post by silverkitsune33 on Apr 12, 2010 23:21:15 GMT -5
By the half smirk on Christian's face when he told Olli about kissing Rebecca, its obvious he thought Olli wasn't going to be so hurt, but Olli was crushed. And it's then Christian began to panic. Christian, who has declared himself gay on several occasions, will return to the breast, so to speak, when things are bad between him and Olli. He hasn't choosen to speak with the other men around him but to females. I would love to know why? Is it a stretch to wonder if he always goes back to women during the bad times because he's figured he's 100% into men, and messing around with a woman somehow seems like less of an offense? Like, "Of course I won't leave you. This is a woman." This really feels like reaching, and paints Christian as a jerk who uses the girls around him as disposable comfort objects, but it's an idea I suppose. And the show down between Christian and Robert was intense and delicious. Robert must have the biggest balls in town to want to be right up in the face of Olli's boyfriend...who is an ex boxer. I love Rob for moments like this. He's that no shame, Spike-on-Buffy, bad and loving it character villain. If nothing else he's fun to watch because he doesn't care what he destroys. If he had a mustache he'd be twirling it. I half expected him to bring up world domination. Thank you so much Nanna, tihkon, joanna!
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Post by luckycharm on Apr 12, 2010 23:25:26 GMT -5
But anti-christ(ian) might be appropriate, after all, the antichrist is supposed to be a charismatic figure Ah yes, I love me some Rob (not the delusional, I think he's got a halo on his head, kind). But, for exactly what he is. A baaaaaaaaaddddddd villian is so good to find. I thought that at first too , Luckycharm, until I saw the rest of the post, saying something like ..." don't be so angry at Rob. You should pretend you like Rob and you'll feel better!" ;D ROFL! "I think I can, I think I can!"
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Post by thunderkat on Apr 12, 2010 23:29:33 GMT -5
Mycatfox... I must confess being confused to reactions like this about Rob's words and actions in todays episodes. I don't think we were given information that we didn't already know, here. We knew from episode -18 that the dude was a drug dealer. I mean, evidently association with Bolle, no matter WHAT the soap, is an automatic FAIL. We also knew that there was no way he was REALLY falling for Olli, at least I did. I always thought 1. Rob is straight and trying to distract Olli as he solidifies his drug empire in D-Dorf 2. Rob is Gay/Bi/Polyamorous/Pansexual and is physically attracted to Olli and just thinks it'd be nice to tap that ( the option that was confirmed today) While solidifying his drug empire in D-dorf 3. Rob is gay/bi/polyamorous/pansexual and is falling in love with Olli despite his best efforts to solidify his drug empire in D-dorf.
Three was always the "Pfft, yeah right!" option for me, so his crassness toward Christian, to me, is right what I'd expect from him. Now, that's not to discount the fierceness of his attraction to Olli, but as you can see, in all three options, Rob's priorities are his bourgeoning drug empire. Rob and Cocaine are the true OTP, as it seems like he'd do anything for the White Queen. (hell let's achieve maximal dork-dom, make this a narnia reference and call Rob Mr. Tumnus m'kay?)
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Post by thunderkat on Apr 12, 2010 23:36:55 GMT -5
T-KatI'll admit that. Rob is very charismatic in my opinion. I thought he was devilishly awesome today. (I still hope Christian drives over him with a steamroller though!) [/b] I have no phasers but even if i did I wouldn't use them, because this is possibly the BEST aspect of Rob's character. Robert has so much hubris, gall and NERVE that it makes him rascally and charming, but it also sets up the audience to eagerly anticipate his defeat, which i *gulp* hope is inevitable even though I'll cry bitter bitter tears if he turns out to be the completely irredeemable figure that the writers seem to be presenting. Rob, i think, allows the audience to engage in this gleeful future promise of schadenfreude when his schemes and machinations go downhill. and that is why we (well...me) want him to have these little victories along the way, so that the fall is even more bittersweet and (inevitably b/c it's max) well acted. If his bold declaration to Christian isn't asking the gods to come down on high from Olympus and strike him down... i dunno what is. maybe they can catch becky w. a lightening bolt while they're at it...
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Post by ivaniv on Apr 12, 2010 23:42:03 GMT -5
Bob is getting confident that he'll get what he wants and nothing can interfere now, when he talked so openly to Christian.
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Post by JustaMannsMan on Apr 13, 2010 0:06:54 GMT -5
What I wished was touched upon more was Olli's insecurity with Christian kissing women. I really want that area explored more. Christian, who has declared himself gay on several occasions, will return to the breast, so to speak, when things are bad between him and Olli. He hasn't choosen to speak with the other men around him but to females. I would love to know why? In all seriousness, I would love to know why it matters. If my boyfriend left me for another man I can't imagine that it would hurt LESS than if he left me for a woman. Either way, I'd still be standing there devastated, heartbroken, and alone.
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Post by mycatfox on Apr 13, 2010 0:26:56 GMT -5
Mycatfox... I must confess being confused to reactions like this about Rob's words and actions in todays episodes. I don't think we were given information that we didn't already know, here. We knew from episode -18 that the dude was a drug dealer. I mean, evidently association with Bolle, no matter WHAT the soap, is an automatic FAIL. We also knew that there was no way he was REALLY falling for Olli, at least I did. I always thought 1. Rob is straight and trying to distract Olli as he solidifies his drug empire in D-Dorf 2. Rob is Gay/Bi/Polyamorous/Pansexual and is physically attracted to Olli and just thinks it'd be nice to tap that ( the option that was confirmed today) While solidifying his drug empire in D-dorf 3. Rob is gay/bi/polyamorous/pansexual and is falling in love with Olli despite his best efforts to solidify his drug empire in D-dorf. Three was always the "Pfft, yeah right!" option for me, so his crassness toward Christian, to me, is right what I'd expect from him. Now, that's not to discount the fierceness of his attraction to Olli, but as you can see, in all three options, Rob's priorities are his bourgeoning drug empire. Rob and Cocaine are the true OTP, as it seems like he'd do anything for the White Queen. (hell let's achieve maximal dork-dom, make this a narnia reference and call Rob Mr. Tumnus m'kay?) You're right, it shouldn't be a surprise, we already had a lot of hints before. But I guess, his over the top cynical attitude towards Christian was what really (brutally) unveiled my eyes... v v v Bob is getting confident that he'll get what he wants and nothing can interfere now, when he talked so openly to Christian. Ditto
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Post by I ♥ Blaine on Apr 13, 2010 5:40:35 GMT -5
Rebecca needs to get together with David and make some adorable, angelic babies and leave Christian and Olli to sort out their relationship. Anyway back to the episode. How fake did Olli look lying on the couch pretending to be asleep whilst clutching a toy rabbit? Christian should have ignored him and gone off to work instead of giving him coffee. Especially after seeing Olli deliberately get up close and personal yet again with Rob in No Limits the night before, Christian should be playing it cool with Olli. So folks if Olli keeps blowing Christian off (not that way) to traipse after Rob, if Olli hangs around with Rob knowing he's trying to cop off with him, if Olli won't believe Christian who he's been with for more than two years and chooses to believe Rob, someone he's known for a few weeks then it's time for a little cooling off period, methinks. Familiarity sometimes breeds contempt even for the love of one's life. Maybe if Christian backs off and lets Olli find out for himself what a conniving scoundrel Rob is, then Olli will be less critical of Christian. Christian can in the meantime, delve into his soul and think about why when times get rough and he needs to feel wanted he reaffirms his masculinity by homing in on the lips of the nearest willing (Rebecca) or slightly unwilling (Miriam) female. The good thing about the storyline is that it is Olli that is drifting away from Christian and macho Christian that is feeling unloved, rather than the other way round. That would have been so predictable. I like needy, vulnerable Christian, but he needs to start thinking with his head and stop being ruled by his emotions. He needs to learn to be a little more cunning if he is to outsmart Rob and hold onto his man. I agree!! I liked the episode, but it also made me mad. I dislike how they've changed Olli... I do not get how he doubted the drug thing the first time Christian said it... he has known his boyfriend for 2½ years.. Rob for 2½ months.... UGH. I undertsnad he doesn't trust Chrissie at the moment, but he isn't exactly so trustworthy himself! Christian admitetd the Rebacca kiss out of free will cause it meant nothing... Olli had to be pushed to tell Christian that Rob and he had kissed. The boys need to TALK!!!
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Post by SF on Apr 13, 2010 6:08:53 GMT -5
What I wished was touched upon more was Olli's insecurity with Christian kissing women. I really want that area explored more. Christian, who has declared himself gay on several occasions, will return to the breast, so to speak, when things are bad between him and Olli. He hasn't choosen to speak with the other men around him but to females. I would love to know why? In all seriousness, I would love to know why it matters. If my boyfriend left me for another man I can't imagine that it would hurt LESS than if he left me for a woman. Either way, I'd still be standing there devastated, heartbroken, and alone. i reckon the act of christian leaving olli for anyone else, would fundamentally hurt olli the same. but if it were a women who christian went back to, quite aside from the hurt coming from the end of their relationship and the break down of the love of olli's life - it would feed into his insecurities - which we can see when he says stuff like "a woman - again?!". i see him as very afraid that what he has with christian isn't permanent, that christian isn't really gay, and that like christian he sometimes feels he isn't enough for christian to want to hold on. christian actually leaving him for a woman would sting on all those levels. like failing an exam because you deliberately didn't revise a certain question on the paper. the hurt of failing the exam would be the same, constant - but mitigating factors of how that failure came about would play into your psyche as well. also, someone was talking about gestures yesterday and how christian made olli a gesture about giving up boxing for him. i've been thinking about it, and i reckon olli telling christian "you're the love of my life" was a similar gesture - just christian, and therefore the audience doesn't recognise it as such because it's not explicit enough and couched in romantic terms. but i think for olli, it means the same thing. rewatching old episodes has given me a new insight. i always thought that olli was the great communicator and christian the stubborn, silent, brooding type. but now i think actually, when he wants, christian is very good at getting his point across and making the audience and olli understand his motivation (sometimes more the audience than olli). he's just not particularly loquacious and only talks when he really feels he has to or when he's in the mood to talk. olli, talks a lot more, but often he seems like he's working stuff out for himself AS he says it. there are no definitives with him - and he is all about the big gestures to blot over crappy areas of their relationship. problem is combined, those two traits make for a couple that doesn't always communicate very well. one unwilling to talk at any depth and the other happy to oblige the lack of actual problem solving by distracting the other with chocolate covered strawberries, or massage oils or whatever romantic gesture is fashionable in those women's magazines this week.
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Post by thunderkat on Apr 13, 2010 7:29:40 GMT -5
^ Ge-nau.
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Post by lyddy3 on Apr 13, 2010 9:13:45 GMT -5
problem is combined, those two traits make for a couple that doesn't always communicate very well. one unwilling to talk at any depth and the other happy to oblige the lack of actual problem solving by distracting the other with chocolate covered strawberries, or massage oils or whatever romantic gesture is fashionable in those women's magazines this week. Very true, although I must say as long as chocolate covered strawberries and massage oils are concerned, I'm not really complaining... That said, it would be nice to see more discussion between them about their relationship, just to show both the physical and emotional sides.
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Post by SF on Apr 13, 2010 9:29:09 GMT -5
see to me, the physical scenes are a bit meaningless if they're just there to paper over the cracks of the latest relationship crisis. pretty to look at but that's it.
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Post by lyra85 on Apr 13, 2010 9:45:53 GMT -5
I have noticed that lately they have been throwing i-love-yous to each other more than ever, instead of finding it cute it scares me a bit...
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