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Post by joanna on Apr 12, 2010 11:24:39 GMT -5
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Post by Sonnenschein on Apr 12, 2010 11:30:19 GMT -5
repost from the GD Today's happenings Scene 1: bedroom Olli is getting up while Christian tries to placate him. It was just a dumbass move on his part. Christian was just mad about the kiss with Rob and Rebecca was comforting him. So it was some kind of retort?!?! Thank you Lugia Christian: It was a mistake and I'm sorry. But it meant nothing whatsoever. Olli: What I don't understand at all: why a woman again? Christian: Again? Olli: Miriam? Christian: Do you think I'm back into women, or something? Olli: Are you? Christian: No, I'm not! Olli: That surprise really worked. Scene 2: No Limits Rebecca joins him cheerfully and asks him about the outfits. Well he is about to set her straight. Olli does not like that he cried on her shoulder! And she had nothing better to do than kissing HIS boyfriend. How was it?! Christian steps in at this point and tells him to stop blaming Rebecca. He kissed her. Olli does not care one bit. It takes two to tango! Olli leaves these two alone and Rob approaches them smugly. So, they kissed. Will they be an item now? Can he be that lucky? Scene 3: No Limits Rebcca is grateful that Christian lied and said he kissed her and apologizes for causing trouble between Olli and Christian. No worries, they had problems before that answers a not really listening Christian. His attention is at Olli and Rob sitting together and talking. Rebecca tries to comfort him: That kiss between Rob and Olli was as meaningless as theirs. She is sure that Christian and Olli will come out stronger/still together. CHristian absentmindedly replies that he isn't even sure that Olli knows just how much CHristian loves him. Scene 4: Christian is still glaring at Rob. And witnesses another drug deal. Rob doesn't care that Christian knows. Olli won't believe him anyway. Plus if Christian rats him out, Rob will make sure to take Olli down with him. What does Rob want from Christian's boyfriend?!?! He loves him. NOT! Well he is trying to get into his pants. It's called hunter's instinct/animal's spirit. Scene 5: flatshare Olli is sleeping on their couch. David takes a wild guess and yes Christian told him. Christian gently wakes him with a coffee and asks him if Olli will return to their bed the upcoming night. Olli doesn't know yet. Christian then proceeds to tell him about the drug deal he witnessed. But as foreseen Olli doesn't believe him. Olli exclaims that he had no idea Christian behaved like that when jealous. Scene 6: castle Rebecca asks Christian if he had another chance at talking with Olli. He doesn't reply. Maybe Christian should have told him that Rebecca iniated the kiss. Christian doesn't believe that would have changed anything. Christian then complains about Olli not believing him when he told him about Rob. How is a relationship supposed to work without trust?!?! They will find a way, comforts Rebecca. Oh the drama! Me likes! *tries to smack some sense into Christian and Olli* ;D
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Post by thunderkat on Apr 12, 2010 11:38:14 GMT -5
oh sonnenschein, thank you!! I have decided. I am neither an Ollipologist or a MannBassador. I am a Maren-Bach up dancer. I love you rob!!!
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Post by chrolliforever7 on Apr 12, 2010 11:40:13 GMT -5
thank youuu sonnenschein!!!!!!!
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Post by mitsaso on Apr 12, 2010 11:42:04 GMT -5
Thanks for the summary, you're a darling! I don't like ONE BIT that Christian covered for Rebecca and lied that he initiated the kiss. If I didn't know any better and if Christian didn't announce how much he loves Olli in every episode, it would look like he cares for Rebecca more than he knows and he doesn't realize it yet. And what was the point of covering for her, anyway? She's gonna taste those sweet lips and get away with it? Let the bitch get her comeuppance, Christian!!! Well that does it. I wrote something at work just for this case, let me finish it and upload it on the NoLimits.
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Post by SF on Apr 12, 2010 11:49:16 GMT -5
thanks sonneschein. can't say i loved today.
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Post by papperlapp on Apr 12, 2010 11:49:45 GMT -5
Ok, today's episode: What I liked: -Christian and Robert: very nice. Loved Rob's reaction to the awful kiss and then his confrontation with Christian("I love him." "Yeah, sure" " Nah, I just want to get in his pants.") I love him for taking the piss out of Christian and I love an honest man. Take note, Rebecca. - Olli bitching at R. I really hope that's it for their friendship. What I didn't like: -I kinda like that they're adressing the women issue, but then they just mentioned it, didn't talk at all about it (in fact they didn't talk at all about anything) and later it just served the purpose of giving Rebecca new hope. -A good part of the episode was about Rebecca and Christian telling her that it takes two to kiss, defending her and basically telling her that his relationship is in shatters. Ugh. Yay, more fodder for R's crush! She really has no shame and everytime she is on screen I'm thinking "B****, b****, b****, etc", and I'm usually not like that. Last week, I didn't think her acting was that bad, but today she really annoyed me with the two facial expressions she has. Sorry. - You're the one to alk about trust Christian. In a way he's right, but how stupid is it to tell Olli those things at THAT time and after Olli spent the night on the slutty couch of horror? YAY for more drama, but pleaaase, less Rebecca and more Rob.
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Post by valso on Apr 12, 2010 11:58:52 GMT -5
Like soapfan, I can't say I loved today episode because even if I usually enjoy drama I couldn't focus on it because every f****** moment there was a Christian and Rebecca bonding scene thrown in our faces. I know that logic tells us that it would be totally stupid to trash Ollian in exchange of a Christian and Rebecca pairing but honestly I can't help to think about it after witnessed today's episode. Some people in the past said that Rebecca is the only person Christian can talk to but I disagree completely, there are Miriam, David, Andi and what about Olli? But if the writers always end up with Christian and Rebecca imho there's a reason. I'm royally pissed.
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Post by papperlapp on Apr 12, 2010 11:59:27 GMT -5
Thanks for the summary, you're a darling! I don't like ONE BIT that Christian covered for Rebecca and lied that he initiated the kiss. If I didn't know any better and if Christian didn't announce how much he loves Olli in every episode, it would look like he cares for Rebecca more than he knows and he doesn't realize it yet. I agree. They really pushed for Chribecca in this episode (and I NEVER thought that so far. Not even in the kiss episode) But, we don't know if it's just for the sake of suspense or if they really want to go there (that's not a spoiler).
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Post by chrolliforever7 on Apr 12, 2010 12:01:50 GMT -5
Yeapppp soooo MORE AND MORE REBECCA can only mean more and more STOMACH ACHES. fuck her, seriously?? and fuck christian for trying to say HE kissed HER. this whole episode sucked...the only good part was christian saying that he's not sure olli knows how much he loves him...but honestly christian? I'M not so sure I know either. STOP talking to rebecca and maybe I'll believe you.
the only other good part was Rob's honesty about only wanting to get into Olli's pants...other than that, today's episode was shit.
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Post by ivaniv on Apr 12, 2010 12:02:44 GMT -5
I am more laid back about the VL lately, but you still would not want to hear what I shout at Rebecca each time she appears in the opening credits ;D Jasmin's acting was especially atrocious today I think I would enjoy this story more if it was somebody more capable playing Rebecca. It was a bad timing for Christian to talk about Bob, but he does have a point. Olli does not trust him a word unless he says something he wants to hear
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Post by thunderkat on Apr 12, 2010 12:11:26 GMT -5
oooh joooaannna!!! caps pwetty pwetty pwease of chrissie and Rob getting up close and personal? ;D ;D definitely not in a state of mind to comment with any semblance of intelligence on this epi! oh... i also vote we replace with:
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Post by maya on Apr 12, 2010 12:15:56 GMT -5
I'm this close to give up VL, why should I keep following it just to watch the wrecking of Ollian in favor of Chribecca that is obviously the writer's new shiny toy?!
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Post by Sonnenschein on Apr 12, 2010 12:16:32 GMT -5
I like the way Rob really is playing both Christian AND Olli. Max is such a great actor. That sneaky weasel Rob Lady V still bothers me as such as you all as well. BUT I still do NOT think VL will go for a Chribecca (and no thats not a spoiler, just my opinion). And that's why I tend to black her out as soon as she is done. But yes, I do think Jasmin's acting is as bad as always. I am more laid back about the VL lately, but you still would not want to hear what I shout at Rebecca each time she appears in the opening credits ;D Jasmin's acting was especially atrocious today I think I would enjoy this story more if it was somebody more capable playing Rebecca. It was a bad timing for Christian to talk about Bob, but he does have a point. Olli does not trust him a word unless he says something he wants to hear Do share! What does your poor telly have to endure?! ;D Oh and as for Olli not trusting Christian. He couldn't seriously expect that after Christian just confessed to kissing a girl. AGAIN. Of course Olli could know (as Rob does!) that Christian would never lie about those things or willingly put Olli ('s career) in danger. But we wouldn't be watching a soap then. Or dramarama
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Post by joanna on Apr 12, 2010 12:17:14 GMT -5
oooh joooaannna!!! caps pwetty pwetty pwease of chrissie and Rob getting up close and personal? ;D ;D Just as well you asked or else I'd have probably not bothered at all with that...........NOT! Just starting my caps now...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2010 12:20:53 GMT -5
I'm not sure I want to watch this episode, I'm sorry but if I knew my bf to be a truthful person (and except for the hiding of the Rebecca kiss) Christian is a very truthful person I would believe him and right now I'm really pissed at both of them for being stupid and I would be telling Rebecca to stay away from em for the time being and give Christian and Olli space, same with Rob. If I was Olli I'd be like "sorry man I need to just have some time alone without you around"
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Post by katiem26 on Apr 12, 2010 12:21:03 GMT -5
I love the way Rob is always there to make some snide comment. Brilliant. As for madam she is not gonna go away until it sinks in that she aint gonna get that Mann!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Shes like a lingering bad smell. Still dont think Chribecca will get together
Remain Positive and let the writers get this crap out of their system
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Post by sio127 on Apr 12, 2010 12:23:49 GMT -5
loving the chance the guys have to act their socks off..(and anything else they wish!) although as I just said to a friend......the episode did make me want to smack Rebecca in the mouth...might get rid of some of the lipstick!! I'm a peaceful person!!
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Post by sylstyle on Apr 12, 2010 12:24:40 GMT -5
A bit disappointed today even thought we had some intersting issues Like Papperlapp said the women issue was interesting but I would have like to see Olli really scared about Christian coming back to woman. Adding maybe more lines in the script IDK. At least the trust issue was OK, we talked about it before, and I think this is a great plot Rebecca is another subject I loved Rob today really funny ;D Sylvain
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Post by ivaniv on Apr 12, 2010 12:29:42 GMT -5
Hm, I can understand Olli to be hurt, but then Christian told him himself without some "friend" snitching on him. Also Olli is bitchy with the R person, not that I mind, but he's acting around Bob as if they were b/f-s or something I really would not be surprised if this goes on if Christian dumps him.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2010 12:29:49 GMT -5
Okay I've decided that I am only going to go to the fanfic boards until this whole thing as blown over because honestly I'm tired of the triangle angle. I'm still going to watch Nanna's videos and such but I don't want to participate in any speculation or any discussion on what is currently happening on the show.
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Post by joanna on Apr 12, 2010 12:34:19 GMT -5
Today's happenings Olli doesn't know yet. Christian then proceeds to tell him about the drug deal he witnessed. But as foreseen Olli doesn't believe him. Olli exclaims that he had no idea Christian behaved like that when jealous. Christian then complains about Olli not believing him when he told him about Rob. How is a relationship supposed to work without trust?!?! Danke, Sonnenschein. I think the above is maybe part of how all this 'drama' between Christian and Olli is going to end up turning into something very positive for them. I think Olli, the hard way, is going to work/find out that Christian wouldn't ever outright lie to him like that, 'jealousy' or not. He'll learn that Christian just could never be like that. I believe he'll learn JUST how much Christian loves him and can't live without him. And I believe this is what Christian will learn of Olli, too. I think this is a storyline which is meant to be teaching them just what they've got in each other. They need *ahem* to go through this rubbish in order to become a stronger couple, who truly appreciate/trust in the love they share and have a deeper understanding of each other.
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Post by thunderkat on Apr 12, 2010 12:42:52 GMT -5
I could sing songs and write symphonies about robert...but i shall refrain for the time being. I must admit to being a bit disturbed about the whole final scene. I was especially nervous because they got the Ollian campfire LURVE music, but more than that, I was bothered by the fact that Christian basically asks the audience, what kind of relationship can function without trust? Of course our instinct is to say no kind of relationship can function without trust. You and Olli have enacted mutually assured destruction of each others trust, sometimes intentional and willfully, and sometimes not. The conclusion then GULP leads me to, if not a Chribecca romance, then a Chrolli breakup- spoiler: despite what the presscrew says.... How can they re-establish trust at this point? it seems impossible without either of them losing what is of great importance. Olli stands to lose the NL, possibly his freedom, and hell if Rob has his way his gag reflex (oh god i'm sorry). Christian stands to lose the love of his life , not to mention his sanity and tummy rubs. At this point Christian really needs to team up with someone (other than Reb) to convince Olli of Rob's true nature..his ANIMAL instinct as it were...(claws in Kat, claws in!). And If I'm Olli, why am I not wondering at this point why Christian won't stop harping on this drug thing. Doesn't he find it a bit odd at this point? Ok, right now he's preoccupied with his boyfriend's infidelity etc., but it's got to strike the guy as kind of weird, no? And Christian was right about Rob wanting to get in his pants, isn't it just possible he'd be right about this too? Thinking more about this trust thing, i have to wonder who's ability to trust was injured first, and how far back are we going here? If we posit that the hospital kiss equalizes all prior transgressions of potential trust, then the next transgression is... gulp. shit. CRAP it's Olli's 2 month trip to Ibiza. If we take it from the genesis of this storyline...which in and of itself is debatable, then it could potentially be the Miriam kiss, as that has evidently been festering in Olli's soul for a looong time. Yet somehow that rings false to me. ponder ponder. I wish that someone would bound and gag rebecca (and not in a good way) and get her the F away from Christian. She was basically stalking him this episode, and we KNOW that Christian tends to develop feelings for those who are in proximity and "selflessly" (with the intent to bag him later) offering friendship/ support. I think it appeals to Chrissie's ego, which is SEVERELY wounded.
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Post by sio127 on Apr 12, 2010 12:43:26 GMT -5
Thanks Joanne.....liked the positive spin on it. From your lips to Gods ears.....well the writers ears.....
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Post by rosebud on Apr 12, 2010 13:09:46 GMT -5
Why is the script in the Olli/Christian storyline so damn thin all the time?!!!! There is so much left unsaid that it's beyond frustrating. I don't know a word of German (okay, maybe one or two) but as I watch the full episodes it seems to me all the other actors have real, extended dialogue where Chrissie and Olli get these abbreviated sound bites. This leaves us to fill in the gaps with supposition and speculation. Maybe this is purposeful because the writers want to show the boys are fighting and not speaking much, but they haven't spoken for the longest time. You cannot throw out the gauntlet of "is Christian back into women?" and leave it unexplored! Solution to current dilemma: Have Christian kiss Rob so all this damn kissing goes full circle ("See Olli, I'm into HOT guys!"), then have Chrissie and Olli finally talk things out. TKat - I'm lovin' me some Rob/Max. Since we're knee deep in drama anyway, I'm not totally opposed to a little Rob/Olli "naked revenge action" before the boys make up. Brain blast!!!! - I would love for Max to be invited to the next GOOL event (although I would fear for his safety so security definitely would need to be beefed up!) He's a spectacular actor.
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