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Post by luckycharm on Apr 12, 2010 19:17:52 GMT -5
Hm, I can understand Olli to be hurt, but then Christian told him himself without some "friend" snitching on him. Also Olli is bitchy with the R person, not that I mind, but he's acting around Bob as if they were b/f-s or something I really would not be surprised if this goes on if Christian dumps him.I'm the opposite: I would be really, really surprised if Christian dumps Olli, especially after today's episode (which I loved, mostly because of the Rob/Christian angle). Unless Christian's character completely flips from who he has been for over the years on VL (aka, character assassination).....the Christian we know and love, is now, well, and truly, STUCK. Frustrated, cornered and STUCK. Stuck to? Olli. Olli would be more likely to dump Christian over this recent SL (short-sightedly so), versus, Christian. And........it's all because of Rob, and what he revealed today. What he's capable of, his plans for Olli, what Olli is blatantly missing, over and over, and over again. Which means, Christian is gonna get some major masochistic hits (and swallow it, teehee, from Olli), and he'll hate it, and he'll still stick around. He may leave for a bit, but he'll come back. He has to: Christian is fiercely protective, and if evil is underfoot, our knight isn't gonna desert the fight. And, come on, Rob just threw down the gauntlet at Christian today (biggest mistake Rob made, he just doesn't know it yet ...his cockiness/"killer instinct" is blinding him). Aw, hell no, Mr. Boxer isn't forfeiting this fight. "I couldn't let you drown."OLLI IS IN DANGER! NL IS IN DANGER! Christian now knows this fact, indisputably, from the horse's mouth, and from his very own eyes. Christian's loyalty to a fault, is gonna be hella fun and heartbreaking to watch, in the upcoming saga, I fear (*rubs hands in anticipation*). DRAMA! My guess: The excitement for me, with this storyline, is my anticipation of seeing Christian and Olli, finally join forces, and bring that deliciously evil Rob down! Team Chrolli will be a force to reckon with. We just gotta sit back and watch them reform back into said team, rather than Christian and Olli, drifting away. How can I not love such a storyline? HOW?! ;D
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Post by irinobabe on Apr 12, 2010 19:19:43 GMT -5
Oh wow, soooo much drama. I echo the sentiment they've made Rob so evil too quickly; there now is no redeeming quality to him whatsoever. If he was just egotistical and confident in his own incredible hotness I can stomach a Rolli fling, but now that he lays his cards on the table so fast...that he is only in for a f*ck with Olli just to piss off Christian, and to see if he can; and is threatening to basically destroy Olli's life, it makes me a little ill to be honest. I wouldn't wish such a sadistic person on ANYONE, much less Olli. Really, is Rebecca really worse than Rob? Sure she is misguided, immature, and pining after the wrong guy (not to mention badly acted and written character), but she is not out to destroy Christian's life. She could have, with the stupid shop lifting incident, but she was contrite and repented. Her starry eyed school girl dreams are stupid to be sure, but she is does not set out to use Christian and destroy him for her own purposes as Rob does. Would Rob be sorry? Right. Seriously, Rob would blow up Olli's business, his livelihood, his relationship, his friendships, the list goes on and on. I enjoyed the snarky deliciousness of Rob when there was some mystery-is he starting to fall for Olli perhaps? Would he change his mind for Olli? Has he other intentions? Bam....nada. No mystery, he's just a sadistic asshole.
And I am disliking how the writers are portraying Olli. In making Rob to be so outwardly evil and Olli's disbelief at Christian's assertions, it makes Olli look like a little boy lost who has no judge of character, poor decision making skills, and needs others to look out for him. That is not our Olli!
Still love the drama, just need to dial the characters back a little.
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Post by rosebud on Apr 12, 2010 19:52:18 GMT -5
Still love the drama, just need to dial the characters back a little. Speaking of dialing back...Olli peacefully asleep on his back, blanket perfectly tucked around him, with arms perfectly crossed over a stuffed bunny, while two guys are speaking 3 feet from him, the aroma of coffee wafting through the air, in a brightly lit room? Poor Jo, even with his considerable skill he couldn't act asleep. Are they trying to make Olli appear like a douche?! Not sure who is responsible for this madness but I'm beginning to wonder if they're taking the pills Rob is pushing at NL.
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Post by luckycharm on Apr 12, 2010 19:57:55 GMT -5
And I am disliking how the writers are portraying Olli. In making Rob to be so outwardly evil and Olli's disbelief at Christian's assertions, it makes Olli look like a little boy lost who has no judge of character, poor decision making skills, and needs others to look out for him. That is not our Olli! Agreed! Esp., as rosebud mentioned, that stupid bunny......they're making him infantile. Okay, Olli can be more child-like (naive?) than Christian in some things....but, yeah..... ...they're taking it a bit too far with their portrayal of Olli. Maybe to make Christian's shining armour shine more brightly? Christian's look of "awww" at Olli sleeping to have its optimal intended effect? I dunno. I also don't like it. He's a grown man, ffs!
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Post by realgal21 on Apr 12, 2010 19:58:55 GMT -5
Still love the drama, just need to dial the characters back a little. Speaking of dialing back...Olli peacefully asleep on his back, blanket perfectly tucked around him, with arms perfectly crossed over a stuffed bunny, while two guys are speaking 3 feet from him, the aroma of coffee wafting through the air, in a brightly lit room? Poor Jo, even with his considerable skill he couldn't act asleep. Are they trying to make Olli appear like a douche?! Not sure who is responsible for this madness but I'm beginning to wonder if they're taking the pills Rob is pushing at NL. Olli and d bunny SUPER CUTE But yah how can anyone sleep in that bright room is definitely beyond me as well
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Post by tihkon2 on Apr 12, 2010 20:24:01 GMT -5
I think Oli has been always treated by some folks as childlike. I don't think the writers have suddenly made him that way.
I agree, he is a grown man, but I think the bunny was just supposed to be cute , and not anything more.
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Post by Flippityfloppityflip on Apr 12, 2010 20:43:41 GMT -5
Don't hate me for saying this, but I am quite mesmerised by Rebecca when she appears on screen. I hear her lines, but I don't notice her delivery of them too much as she is so beautiful and I really like her latest hairstyle with the short bits at the side. The cut really suits her.
It's very odd, I know given that I am here because of my obsession for Christian and Olli, but I also get quite distracted when David is in shot too. That man is getting more beautiful with each appearance. I can't help marvelling at his blemish free skin and that combined with his lovely deep voice makes me come over all giddy.
Rebecca needs to get together with David and make some adorable, angelic babies and leave Christian and Olli to sort out their relationship.
Anyway back to the episode. How fake did Olli look lying on the couch pretending to be asleep whilst clutching a toy rabbit? Christian should have ignored him and gone off to work instead of giving him coffee. Especially after seeing Olli deliberately get up close and personal yet again with Rob in No Limits the night before, Christian should be playing it cool with Olli.
So folks if Olli keeps blowing Christian off (not that way) to traipse after Rob, if Olli hangs around with Rob knowing he's trying to cop off with him, if Olli won't believe Christian who he's been with for more than two years and chooses to believe Rob, someone he's known for a few weeks then it's time for a little cooling off period, methinks. Familiarity sometimes breeds contempt even for the love of one's life.
Maybe if Christian backs off and lets Olli find out for himself what a conniving scoundrel Rob is, then Olli will be less critical of Christian. Christian can in the meantime, delve into his soul and think about why when times get rough and he needs to feel wanted he reaffirms his masculinity by homing in on the lips of the nearest willing (Rebecca) or slightly unwilling (Miriam) female.
The good thing about the storyline is that it is Olli that is drifting away from Christian and macho Christian that is feeling unloved, rather than the other way round. That would have been so predictable. I like needy, vulnerable Christian, but he needs to start thinking with his head and stop being ruled by his emotions. He needs to learn to be a little more cunning if he is to outsmart Rob and hold onto his man.
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Post by JustaMannsMan on Apr 12, 2010 20:46:13 GMT -5
I think Oli has been always treated by some folks as childlike. I don't think the writers have suddenly made him that way. I agree, he is a grown man, but I think the bunny was just supposed to be cute , and not anything more. ;D ;D ;D Still not sure I catch yer meanin' there, bub. ;D ;D
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Post by luckycharm on Apr 12, 2010 20:49:00 GMT -5
I agree, he is a grown man, but I think the bunny was just supposed to be cute , and not anything more. What is your bunny's name? ;D
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Post by JustaMannsMan on Apr 12, 2010 21:05:23 GMT -5
Maybe if Christian backs off and lets Olli find out for himself what a conniving scoundrel Rob is, then Olli will be less critical of Christian. Considering the revelations about Rob in this episode, I'm afraid Olli experiencing for himself what a ruthless SOB Rob is will be utterly ruinous for Olli. Hmmmm. I'm just trying to think of a time, an episode, a scene, a line of dialogue, a still picture, a gentle reflection on a drop of dew, where Christian isn't exuding masculinity. This might take a while.
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Post by tihkon2 on Apr 12, 2010 21:08:52 GMT -5
@ luckycharm and JustaMannsMan .. you saw nothing! Flippityfloppityflip, I do see what you're saying , but I think Christian is too afraid of loosing Oli to try a time-out. I think that is his worst fear. @ JustaMannsMan Well he wasn't exuding much traditional masculinity when he was fixing his hair in the reflection of the expresso machine and commenting about missing the musical with all the cute little animals... ;D
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Post by luckycharm on Apr 12, 2010 21:11:07 GMT -5
Hmmmm. I'm just trying to think of a time, an episode, a scene, a line of dialogue, a still picture, a gentle reflection on a drop of dew, where Christian isn't exuding masculinity. This might take a while. Ohhhhh you! Pay careful attention to 7-9secs. ;D (nice editing, btw ) Bounce, baby, bounce.
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Post by JustaMannsMan on Apr 12, 2010 21:21:17 GMT -5
Pay careful attention to 7-9secs. ;D Pay attention?!? Do you think I haven't already downloaded that clip and that I haven't got it playing in a loop on my desktop? Seriously. and @ tihkon as well: Well, those moments sure make ME exude masculinity, , so I'm good wid it. ;D ;D ;D
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Post by Nitty on Apr 12, 2010 21:27:05 GMT -5
I loved today's episode! I loved Olli and his Erwin replacement bunny. I loved Rob's doucheyness and Christian's rage! I loved how hot Jo looked when he scrambled off of the couch. I loved how it was totally obvious that Christian is so not into Rebecca, even a little bit. I loved it when Olli slapped Rebecca in the face and she cried. Thanks Nanna, Joanna, and Paul!!
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Post by chrolliforever7 on Apr 12, 2010 21:30:47 GMT -5
I loved it when Olli slapped Rebecca in the face and she cried. God i fucking WISH!!!!!!!!
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Post by silverkitsune33 on Apr 12, 2010 21:33:57 GMT -5
He has to: Christian is fiercely protective, and if evil is underfoot, our knight isn't gonna desert the fight. OLLI IS IN DANGER! NL IS IN DANGER! Hell yes! I know you can make a lot of comparisons between the Coco/Christian/Olli dynamic that lead to Chrolli and the Olli/Christian/Rebecca dynamic that many fear will lead to Chribecca, but one thing this story has that the original didn't is Christian's current partner in danger! Danger! Danger Will Robinson! I personally think that the end game is Chrolli (um..if for no other reason that Chribecca is going to crush me if it actually happens in a permanent way. For god sakes just hearing about Carla's girlfriend leaving her for a guy made my heart shatter)
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Post by tihkon2 on Apr 12, 2010 21:45:53 GMT -5
Ha!
Oh Nitty.....I was like, I agree, I agree, I liked that.., I...wait? What? ....
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Post by chrolliforever7 on Apr 12, 2010 21:54:48 GMT -5
I personally think that the end game is Chrolli well of COURSE you do!!! Everybody in here should!! Cuz they ARE!!!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by kes on Apr 12, 2010 22:21:14 GMT -5
A thought: Even evil Rob may have been half telling the truth when he said he loved Olli . . . He would not be the kind to admit to real feelings. And he may have threatened to take Olli down just to get at Christian and mess with Christian's head. Mess with Christian's head . . . Christian . . . head . . . I'll be in my bunk.
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Post by FTLNewsFeed on Apr 12, 2010 22:22:10 GMT -5
I personally think that the end game is Chrolli Buddha says: A world without Chrolli is like a night without stars!
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Post by tihkon2 on Apr 12, 2010 22:27:08 GMT -5
heh..I've seen that on youtube this evening. But until they show me otherwise, I don't believe it. But the disturbing thing I saw there was someone telling people that don't like Rob because he's a drug dealer, "He's a Drug Angel!" What the hell? A drug angel??? Dealing drugs is good now?
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Post by ivaniv on Apr 12, 2010 22:32:26 GMT -5
Drug Angel? I do not understand this fascination with Bob, or is it about the actor's looks, sod the character of Bob? But then, when I want to see what two or more gay guys do when they get together, there's a whole industry catering for my needs, I don't need a soap for that.
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Post by tihkon2 on Apr 12, 2010 22:35:25 GMT -5
Ivan said:
Amen brother.... ;D
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Post by irinobabe on Apr 12, 2010 22:41:31 GMT -5
A thought: Mess with Christian's head . . . Christian . . . head . . . I'll be in my bunk. Oh God! Jayne! Firefly! Lord of the Rings quotes and Firefly quotes on a Chrolli message board! You all are all kinds of awesomeness
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Post by JustaMannsMan on Apr 12, 2010 22:43:43 GMT -5
A thought: Even evil Rob may have been half telling the truth when he said he loved Olli . . . Sure. And I might be anti-Christian Mann, too. That's high praise now, innit? Still I'd have to see some evidence that he had any feelings to begin with. There's a saying: Do not wake the sleeping lion. Maybe that one wasn't in Rob's copy of "101 Phrases From Around the World To Make You Look Slick." I can't imagine a time in my life where that line will fail to make me smile. ;D
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