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Post by amber80 on May 20, 2008 11:00:42 GMT -5
Unfortunately I still cant't see them, too. Could the other members please check and give me feedback? I can't see them either. BTW: I have to say thanks again for all the great screencaps Gabi!
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Post by Bonobochick on May 20, 2008 12:10:31 GMT -5
Ok, watched it. Oh my. I can't believe Deniz! No, seriously. ATM, I can only think Deniz=idiot. No other words apply here, imho Vanessa has to wake the hell up and dump him already. I mean, can't she see he only makes her miserable? (I don't even like her that much, but whatever. The DeVa storyline is just soooooooooo boring and lame). Is it only me or Maximilian looked so *very* uncomfortable during/after the DeVa kiss? And anyway, what's up with Deniz? He didn't look that much happy after the kiss. It was all so very weird. I didn't know what to make of it either. I mean, it's not like he hasn't kissed her before but Deniz was reacting how we all react when we have to see them kiss. This is what I posted on GayTime's blog with the clip of the 16 Mai ep That lips thing Deniz did after the kiss with Vanessa was weird but it made me giggle. I wonder what was up with that?? Hmmm.
Vanessa totally had a shitty birthday but she didn't do what she should have, which is dump Deniz for being such an insensitive prick. As for trusting him... well how much should really trust someone who you are the person he cheated with during his previous relationship? I'm just sayin'...
And what's up with drooling over Igor. I thought you were all about Thore. Hmmm. Me thinks you're trying make my hair turn more ginger... =(
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Post by blueocean80 on May 20, 2008 12:36:02 GMT -5
I mean, it's not like he hasn't kissed her before but Deniz was reacting how we all react when we have to see them kiss. [/i][/quote] *giggles* Seriously, though, I've been thinking about it (yes, I'm bored and I don't have anything else to do today), and I really can't find any reason for that behaviour. Unless Vanessa had eaten lots and lots of onions and garlic. It kind of reminded me of the kiss Ingo gave Roman ages ago and Roman was all like "hm, sausage". Or something like that.
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Post by Bonobochick on May 20, 2008 13:01:47 GMT -5
I mean, it's not like he hasn't kissed her before but Deniz was reacting how we all react when we have to see them kiss. *giggles* Seriously, though, I've been thinking about it (yes, I'm bored and I don't have anything else to do today), and I really can't find any reason for that behaviour. Unless Vanessa had eaten lots and lots of onions and garlic. It kind of reminded me of the kiss Ingo gave Roman ages ago and Roman was all like "hm, sausage". Or something like that. It was weird and usually he's less than enthusiastic about kissing her, though he seems ok. That's the first time that I ever got the impresstion he found kissing her distasteful and it was totally weird and very noticeable. Was it a fluke or is Deniz starting to think more and more about that "reflex" kiss with Roman from 2 weeks ago? I still can't get over how insensitive Deniz was toward Vanessa during the pool scene. I am wondering when Vanessa is going to realize that's she's not been happy since she and Deniz got together. I think there have been a few moments when things were good between them but overall, this relationship has not been good for her. (Uhm... That smiley of yours gives me really bad thoughts Bonobochick ) Did you not see the motto under my hair avatar??
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Post by blueocean80 on May 20, 2008 15:41:53 GMT -5
It was weird and usually he's less than enthusiastic about kissing her, though he seems ok. That's the first time that I ever got the impresstion he found kissing her distasteful and it was totally weird and very noticeable. Was it a fluke or is Deniz starting to think more and more about that "reflex" kiss with Roman from 2 weeks ago? Probably? I know what I wish for (That it was the reaction to the kiss with Roman), but hey, like someone said this is a soap opera, anything can happen. I don't think it was a fluke. The actor's too good for that and writers/director/tptb would have noticed and if that was the case, maybe re-shoot the scene. it was much too noticeable to be just a mistake. *nods* Eventually, she'll have to realize that. She isn't that stupid. You know I don't like her that much, but gosh, Deniz is such a tool! Gah, I gotta tell myself it's all about his age. He's only 17 after all, right?
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Post by amber80 on May 20, 2008 16:18:18 GMT -5
We had a DeRo scene today, quite funny actually imo. Taken from my recap to Bonobochick: Roman walks in on Deniz working out. (Why are men working out so hot to look at? ) Some blabla about the party. (I have some trouble understanding: sorry) Deniz all bitchy: I had fun, allright! Roman: But your girlfriend didn't. Roman immidiately understands where the problem lay with Vanessa: Deniz having fun with the girls in the pool.Roman says Deniz's problem is that he flirts with everyone: with the models, with him. Deniz: I don't flirt with you! Roman: No, you kiss me. (LOL!) Deniz: I love Vanessa. Roman: Then why can't you keep your eyes off other girls? Or your lips off mine? (Again LOL!) Perhaps you should think again wether you should be in any relationship at all. (Wether he really wants a relationship) It would be a shame if you broke Vanessa's heart. Deniz is looking like he's wondering if what Roman said was true. (Don't really know how to describe the look )
Roman knows Deniz better than Deniz knows himself it seems.
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Post by blueocean80 on May 20, 2008 16:48:39 GMT -5
Ok, is it only me or Deniz saying he loves Vanessa is, well, like a deja vu? Didn't he say he loved Roman to Vanessa right before he cheated on him with her? 2 scenarios: a)Deniz knows it's futile to resist his attraction to Roman ( ;D)and he knows, deep down, what's gonna happen between them (he'll cheat on Va); or b)he's totally clueless and honestly think he loves Vanessa even though he treats like he doesdn't. I'm torn
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Post by amber80 on May 20, 2008 17:12:36 GMT -5
My guess right now is that Deniz is clueless about everything!
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Post by Bonobochick on May 20, 2008 18:21:54 GMT -5
Ok, is it only me or Deniz saying he loves Vanessa is, well, like a deja vu? Didn't he say he loved Roman to Vanessa right before he cheated on him with her? 2 scenarios: a)Deniz knows it's futile to resist his attraction to Roman ( ;D)and he knows, deep down, what's gonna happen between them (he'll cheat on Va); or b)he's totally clueless and honestly think he loves Vanessa even though he treats like he doesdn't. I'm torn I lean more towards #2 with a little bit of #1 mixed in. But I think it's a lot more of #2. I think he does realize he loved Vanessa but isn't in love with her. I finally saw the ep. I really liked the moment between De and Ro, with Ro telling De some home truths. Interesting that De only got upset about Ro mentioning how De flirts with him plus De didn't deny flirting with all the models. The boy is a mess.
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Post by blueocean80 on May 21, 2008 8:50:50 GMT -5
If it's #2, then someone must tell him the whole truth. Roman did, but I guess De just doesn't want to hear that from him (too many emotions involved) or maybe he doesn't believe him. After all, Roman is partial to the whole DeVa thing. I'm so scared of how the writers will handle this issue. Should I head to the spoilers' thread? Hm Well, he couldn't deny flirting with the models because hello, everyone could see what he was doing I love that Roman affects De so much. Ro always manages to get a reaction out of Ro so often and in so many different ways. He doesn't even has to try hard. I mean, it's like De gets all super-sensitive to Roman's presence (and gah, I hope you get what I mean cos I can't seem to find the right words)
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Post by Bonobochick on May 21, 2008 9:04:44 GMT -5
If it's #2, then someone must tell him the whole truth. Roman did, but I guess De just doesn't want to hear that from him (too many emotions involved) or maybe he doesn't believe him. After all, Roman is partial to the whole DeVa thing. I'm so scared of how the writers will handle this issue. Should I head to the spoilers' thread? Hm Well, he couldn't deny flirting with the models because hello, everyone could see what he was doing I love that Roman affects De so much. Ro always manages to get a reaction out of Ro so often and in so many different ways. He doesn't even has to try hard. I mean, it's like De gets all super-sensitive to Roman's presence (and gah, I hope you get what I mean cos I can't seem to find the right words) I understand. Deniz is HIGHLY sensitive to Roman and what he says, but with their past & the lingering attraction, it is understandable. I was just very surprised by how quickly Deniz got his back up when Roman included himself in the flirting situation. I guess with Vanessa now bitching about Roman all the time, it's even more bothering to Deniz.
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Post by blueocean80 on May 21, 2008 9:33:46 GMT -5
I agree with you, Bonobochick. I wonder why Deniz just doesn't connect all the dots and finally get the reason behind his behaviour. As for this >> gaydaytime.blogspot.com/2008/05/alles-was-zaehlt-20-05-2008.htmlwell, I can tell you that: I rolled my eyes and sighed a lot while I was watching it. God, why did they make up *again*?!? It's like they're both refusing to acknoledge something's not quite right between them. I mean, geez, they spend more time arguing/bitching/being jealous/defending themselves rather than enjoying their moments together. meh. If I were Va, I'd have dumped him. Ahahha, De's reply to all the great Questions about Life is "I love Vanessa" You kissed me! "I love Vanessa" You messed up my bday and I don't know if I want to be with you anymore. "I love you, Va" Do you want some ketchup on your hamburger? "I love Vanessa" Pfft! I just hope TPTB finally get the hint. Because right now? They're dragging this storyline...it's dying a slow painiful death and we're forced to watch it.
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Post by Bonobochick on May 21, 2008 11:13:18 GMT -5
I agree with you, Bonobochick. I wonder why Deniz just doesn't connect all the dots and finally get the reason behind his behaviour. As for this >> gaydaytime.blogspot.com/2008/05/alles-was-zaehlt-20-05-2008.htmlwell, I can tell you that: I rolled my eyes and sighed a lot while I was watching it. God, why did they make up *again*?!? It's like they're both refusing to acknoledge something's not quite right between them. I mean, geez, they spend more time arguing/bitching/being jealous/defending themselves rather than enjoying their moments together. meh. If I were Va, I'd have dumped him. Ahahha, De's reply to all the great Questions about Life is "I love Vanessa" You kissed me! "I love Vanessa" You messed up my bday and I don't know if I want to be with you anymore. "I love you, Va" Do you want some ketchup on your hamburger? "I love Vanessa" Pfft! I just hope TPTB finally get the hint. Because right now? They're dragging this storyline...it's dying a slow painiful death and we're forced to watch it. I am adding the past week's ep links to the forum now. This is what I said on the blog about the 20 Mai ep: And Simone? Keeps referring to Deniz as 'Kevin'. Bless her!!
It's funny cause she knew his name when she wanted him to model but every other time? She can't seem to recall it. AWESOME.
Deniz is such a tool. I find it funny that his answer for everything that he screws up is "I love Vanessa". Repeating it over and over won't make that love stronger nor the relationship with her any better since it's not romantic love that he feels for her. If that was the case, then he wouldn't keep running around flirting with other people and kissing Roman. And notice how upset he gets when Roman reminds Deniz of his actions with Roman and not his actions with the models or fans? Hmmmmmm....
I wish Vanessa had dumped Deniz instead of apologizing again even though Deniz was in the wrong. This whole VaDeRo triangle has turned Vanessa into a shrew, Deniz into a tool and Roman into a mess (though Romans's showing signs of improving). It would be nice to at least see Roman try to move on. It doesn't have to be a permanent thing but some effort would be appreciated.
The writers at AWZ have really fucked up this storyline. I don't ever think I have been more disappointed in Vanessa is hearing her voice that they should maybe break up and then her going back to apologize. Even if DeRo isn't going to happen in the near future, Vanessa has got to realize not only how unhappy and insecure her relationship with Deniz makes her but just how unhealthy it is for her.
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Post by amber80 on May 21, 2008 11:14:09 GMT -5
well, I can tell you that: I rolled my eyes and sighed a lot while I was watching it. God, why did they make up *again*?!? It's like they're both refusing to acknoledge something's not quite right between them. I mean, geez, they spend more time arguing/bitching/being jealous/defending themselves rather than enjoying their moments together. meh. If I were Va, I'd have dumped him. Me too... She (and he) should see by now this is going nowhere!
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Post by Bonobochick on May 21, 2008 11:16:14 GMT -5
well, I can tell you that: I rolled my eyes and sighed a lot while I was watching it. God, why did they make up *again*?!? It's like they're both refusing to acknoledge something's not quite right between them. I mean, geez, they spend more time arguing/bitching/being jealous/defending themselves rather than enjoying their moments together. meh. If I were Va, I'd have dumped him. Me too... She (and he) should see by now this is going nowhere! Nice new icon, Amber80! That was a nice moment between Noah/Luke. Anyhoo, yea, at this point, this triangle is circling the drain. TIIC need to do something quick. Then again, remember the spoilers and someone's absence we were questioning? Hmmm.
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Post by blueocean80 on May 21, 2008 13:55:07 GMT -5
Anyhoo, yea, at this point, this triangle is circling the drain. TIIC need to do something quick. Then again, remember the spoilers and someone's absence we were questioning? Hmmm. Yeah! I figured the writers knew how the fans feel about the whole storyline and yet it's taking them forever to do something about it. Right, I have to go to that thread now. I think I missed that bit
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Post by Gabi on May 22, 2008 8:51:13 GMT -5
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Post by Bonobochick on May 26, 2008 19:20:26 GMT -5
Yay for DeRo for the rest of the week (see forum calendar). I haven't had a chance to watch today's episode but Deniz gives Vanessa a makeover cause he's so not gay? ETA: Watched it. So I am a bit confused cause of the dialogue going quickly for me, but Deniz wasn't the one who actually gave her the makeover; Vanessa used a gift card Jenny gave her? I laughed at the look Roman gave Vanessa when he first saw her with the new do. ;D That hair-do was not flattering in that it aged her by like 10 years and made Vanessa seem frumpy. Deniz working out in a RED tank was nice. ( Gabi, please feel free to do a lot of screencaps of that! ) Not sure what Roman was wearing but at least it wasn't sparkly this time. The look on Roman's face when he walked in on Deniz preening at the random girl watching Deniz work out was awesome. Can someone help with translating what Deniz and Roman were talking about in the weight room? I think I caught Roman asking/commenting again on whether Deniz should be in a relationship after Roman commented on Vanessa's new look. And yet again, Deniz preens when the girl obviously checks him out. I know Deniz is vain, but he wasn't this bad when he first arrived in Essen. I know he's got mommy issues cause she basically threw him over for her new boyfriend & ignored him the whole time he was with her, but EEEWW. Come on, now! Was Juli trying to really give Vanessa relationship advice? JULI? At least Vanessa finally admits her hair is shitty after Juli's comments about Deniz (which I didn't catch all of them but I get the impression Juli is not a fan of the De part of DeVa). And now Deniz's vanity is taking over when Vanessa tries to kiss him in public... or is it Roman's home truths about Deniz not ready to be in a relationship with anyone sinking in? I think the look of disgust on the fangirls (ok, seriously... having fangirls with that awful poster? Come on!) I think was mirrored on my own face. And possibly the faces of some other people on this forum. What did the bitchy fangirl say at the end? Once again, anther doubting look on Deniz's face about loving Vanessa when he hugs her. Is the writing on the wall FINALLY?
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Post by ivaniv on May 27, 2008 0:55:59 GMT -5
About their talk. Roman said he saw Vanessa and that he almost did not recognise her. He asked if it was Deniz' idea. He said only the look, but it was a voucher/gift from Jenny. Deniz asked if he did not like her anymore the way she looked. And if it was difficult to force her to do it. Deniz asked why Roman said, because she now looks like all the other girls, but she always wanted to be just herself. Deniz said he did not make her to have a surgery, it's just hairdo and a makeup. Roman asked if this is the type he loves Girl. Deniz said it's Vanessa he likes/loves (don't remember)? Roman said that then everything is OK. It's possible it's out of sequence I really don't remember it exactly anymore ETA: the girl at the end asked if Vanessa considered liposuction. She said back if she considered having her brain cleaned.
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Post by Gabi on May 27, 2008 4:21:30 GMT -5
Found at: http://www.f*ghags.de
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Post by ivaniv on May 27, 2008 5:25:15 GMT -5
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Post by Bonobochick on May 27, 2008 8:32:31 GMT -5
Found at: http://www.f*ghags.de Thanks Gabi! Already saved! And Yuuuuuuum. ETA: Thanks as well, Ivan. I'll be saving a few of those too.
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Post by j9l45 on May 27, 2008 9:05:53 GMT -5
I think she's secretly trying to distract people from the scary Voldemort birthday necklace.
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Post by Bonobochick on May 27, 2008 11:37:19 GMT -5
The red tank and scruff are the stuff of dreams! Anyhoo, has Tuesday aired yet? I am not at all eager. Oh, Ivan, I am glad you're giving the show a shot.
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Post by ivaniv on May 27, 2008 12:29:46 GMT -5
Nothing really happened, all just a setup stuff
Spoiler: Deniz didn't feel like spending time with Vanessa and rather went to a party where he was invited by Roman. I think R said she could come too. But D told her he had to do an interview and left for a pub (where Mika's Big Girl / You Are Beautiful was subtly playing in the background) He asked Roman not to tell anything to Vanessa, but some girl at the table saw him (I do not recognise the face, some blond girl) and I guess she'll make troubles tomorrow...
*changed recap color from spoiler beige to non-spoiler black since same day recaps of shows are not spoilers.
-Bchick
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