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Post by brothasoap on Aug 2, 2014 21:32:29 GMT -5
I liked that actress. I hope they don't pull a Sonny Valentine & recast.I also hope she brings her rape whistle. brothasoap:They recast the actress play Amber. As for Ste they are trying to hard to bring drama to is character, that even for a soap is starting to lose his realism and believability. Just days after nearly dying from a drug overdose he's kidnapping someone, it's too stupid at this point, they are burning out his character and I feel the same way about Nancy too much is being thrown at these characters with little or no effect. Also I don't think Ste cheats on JP,it looks like they might split after what happens with Finn. Difficult Diva: There are rumors that Sam and Danny will be involve in a car crash (the one shown at the end of the six weeks of summer video) and many people are suspecting Sam (Lizzie Roper ) is leaving because the actress is currently doing a play that ends at the end of August and have not been in work since June however when question she said that she on a break. I not sure but she be a little to open about her absence from the shown and Hollyoaks usually force to keep quite. But then again Holly Weston (Ash)was quite open that she started a new project and also said she was on a break. As for Danny (Steven) have been quite on twitter lately so it hard to gauge what he is up to but I've seen stuff suggesting that he still in Liverpool. What I do know there was a leaving party that seem to indicate that one of the Lomaxes is leaving. Don't take my absolute word for it but it does seem that the next big stunt for October also involves the Lomax and Camron I'm actually glad you told me that; I now have time to mentally prepare for that change... I thought about it though, they actually HAD to recast, since Finn and Amber were what, like 12-13 when they had that baby?! Ste's been past his expiration date on this show for years; but Hollyoaks finally allows him to have three good days, during his interactions with John Paul, and then the spoilers reveal that he's going right back down Dumblin Drive?! You're absolutely right, it IS too stupid.
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Post by trini on Aug 5, 2014 14:36:03 GMT -5
Sam and Danny have been killed of: www.digitalspy.co.uk/soaps/s13/hollyoaks/news/a588653/hollyoaks-car-crash-outcome-reveaWhat a waste of characters, does the show really expect anyone to continue to be care for any of its characters when the show doesn't. Rather than have Ste in this "poor Ste" syndrome that he is stuck in they could have developed a relation between him an is father whether it turned out to be good or bad.Instead Danny was a petty, jealous man who barely interacted with Ste. I think their only meaningful interactions was after Doug's death. As for Sam it would have been more interesting to see the Lomaxes deal with the consequences of the Paire/Lelah reveal on the entire family now the focus will shift to their parents deaths which going by Hollyoaks aftermath when it comes to deaths wont last long.
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Post by Zathras on Aug 5, 2014 19:40:41 GMT -5
Ugh, really? This show desperately needs better ideas. I'm beyond tired of them killing people off. Of course, I wonder how this will impact the already-miserable Ste. It never ends, does it?
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Post by Difficult Diva on Aug 6, 2014 5:37:27 GMT -5
Sam and Danny have been killed of: www.digitalspy.co.uk/soaps/s13/hollyoaks/news/a588653/hollyoaks-car-crash-outcome-reveaWhat a waste of characters, does the show really expect anyone to continue to be care for any of its characters when the show doesn't.Rather than have Ste in this "poor Ste" syndrome that he is stuck in they could have developed a relation between him an is father whether it turned out to be good or bad.Instead Danny was a petty, jealous man who barely interacted with Ste. I think their only meaningful interactions was after Doug's death.As for Sam it would have been more interesting to see the Lomaxes deal with the consequences of the Paire/Lelah reveal on the entire family now the focus will shift to their parents deaths which going by Hollyoaks aftermath when it comes to deaths wont last long.At this point, Hollyoaks is about how these families will turn on one another, in order to get what and who that person wants for themselves. Danny, in a jealous and petty fit of anger about his ex-lover not being interested in him anymore, plots to get his son arrested, due to him being the new man in his ex's life. Also, let's not forget that Danny attempted to get Ste into his bed, before he realized that he was his son. Sinead, plotting against all the folks she stupidly thinks did her wrong, seduces her step-mother's man and starts to have feelings for him. Freddie, who has always been in love with his older brother's girlfriend, ends up having sex with her. The girlfriend, Lindsey regrets all of her actions and now is plotting with Joe, to take Freddie down. Then we have the completely unhinged Blake family. As Lizzie said in her interview with DS or SoapSquawk: The remaining family will play a game of Jenga and they'll be over the deaths of their parents soon enough.
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Post by Difficult Diva on Aug 6, 2014 5:41:49 GMT -5
Ugh, really? This show desperately needs better ideas. I'm beyond tired of them killing people off. Of course, I wonder how this will impact the already-miserable Ste. It never ends, does it? Nope. The non-stop misery never ends. I think we're back on a character being killed/murdered every month schedule on the show.
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Post by trini on Aug 6, 2014 12:45:30 GMT -5
Spoiler summary for Finn/Ste/JP (What's on tv)
6:30pm, Monday, 11 August 2014
Diane and Finn have just returned to the village.
Elsewhere, John Paul is mortified when he overhears Ste telling Finn about their relationship. Ste chases John Paul and is shocked by his outburst. Will he realise that Finn is John Paul's rapist?
6:30pm, Tuesday, 12 August 2014
Elsewhere, Ste and John-Paul find Finn, hungover, in The Hutch kitchen and John Paul has no qualms about grassing him up to Tony. Ste overhears John Paul telling Finn that he won't let him hurt him again - did Finn rape John Paul?
6:30pm, Wednesday, 13 August 2014
Ste's suspicions are confirmed when he sees John Paul and Finn together in the alley and notices John Paul's fear. Finn wakes with a start when water is thrown over him. He finds himself tied to some pipes at the disused petrol station, with Ste standing over him. Finn is stunned when he realises Ste knows he raped John Paul. Ste promises to kill Finn - can John Paul stop him?
6:30pm, Thursday, 14 August 2014
Ste panics when he can't remember what happened last night and is mortified when Peri hints that she heard him with someone in his room. Who did Ste sleep with?
6:30pm, Friday, 15 August 2014
And a guilty Ste begs John Paul not to give up on him after his recent behaviour.
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Post by Difficult Diva on Aug 6, 2014 14:50:34 GMT -5
Spoiler summary for Finn/Ste/JP (What's on tv)
6 :30pm, Monday, 11 August 2014
Diane and Finn have just returned to the village. Elsewhere, John Paul is mortified when he overhears Ste telling Finn about their relationship. Ste chases John Paul and is shocked by his outburst. Will he realise that Finn is John Paul's rapist? 6:30pm, Tuesday, 12 August 2014
Elsewhere, Ste and John-Paul find Finn, hungover, in The Hutch kitchen and John Paul has no qualms about grassing him up to Tony. Ste overhears John Paul telling Finn that he won't let him hurt him again - did Finn rape John Paul? 6:30pm, Wednesday, 13 August 2014Ste's suspicions are confirmed when he sees John Paul and Finn together in the alley and notices John Paul's fear. Finn wakes with a start when water is thrown over him. He finds himself tied to some pipes at the disused petrol station, with Ste standing over him. Finn is stunned when he realises Ste knows he raped John Paul. Ste promises to kill Finn - can John Paul stop him? 6:30pm, Thursday, 14 August 2014Ste panics when he can't remember what happened last night and is mortified when Peri hints that she heard him with someone in his room. Who did Ste sleep with? 6:30pm, Friday, 15 August 2014
And a guilty Ste begs John Paul not to give up on him after his recent behaviour. I would LMAO if the guy that Ste has the drunken one night stand, is revealed to be the guy that was styled to look like BB. He's supposed to be in other episodes in September, so we probably won't get to see his face until that time.
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Post by Difficult Diva on Aug 7, 2014 6:06:09 GMT -5
Looks like Leah and Lucas may be coming back before the end of 2014.
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Post by Zathras on Aug 12, 2014 19:06:39 GMT -5
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Post by cheerios on Aug 13, 2014 4:50:48 GMT -5
No Hollyoaks, just no. I think one of the main reason Brendan was so beloved as a character whether you hated him or loved him. Was down to Emmett's portrayal. He made Brendan his own and to try and have another one, is not a good idea. Like trying to put toothpaste back in it's tube. Or getting lighting to strike the same place twice.
Ugh Perri buying drugs, did she learn nothing for Ste's OD?
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Post by Difficult Diva on Aug 13, 2014 10:15:38 GMT -5
No Hollyoaks, just no. I think one of the main reason Brendan was so beloved as a character whether you hated him or loved him. Was down to Emmett's portrayal. He made Brendan his own and to try and have another one, is not a good idea. Like trying to put toothpaste back in it's tube. Or getting lighting to strike the same place twice. Ugh Perri buying drugs, did she learn nothing for Ste's OD? Nobody learns ANYTHING from others experiences on this damn show. As for how "unique" BB was, I think that doesn't even matter anymore, with Kirkwood in charge of the show. He's making a mockery of it. We had past show runners, who basically turned Hollyoaks into "The Brendan Brady Show" from 2011 to when he was thrown in prison in March 2013. That almost every character that was introduced from end of 2010 to late 2012 had some sort of tie/connection to the mustached one? Enemies, ex-lovers, rivals and family members.
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Post by Difficult Diva on Aug 13, 2014 10:17:56 GMT -5
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Post by cheerios on Aug 13, 2014 11:37:37 GMT -5
No Hollyoaks, just no. I think one of the main reason Brendan was so beloved as a character whether you hated him or loved him. Was down to Emmett's portrayal. He made Brendan his own and to try and have another one, is not a good idea. Like trying to put toothpaste back in it's tube. Or getting lighting to strike the same place twice. Ugh Perri buying drugs, did she learn nothing for Ste's OD? Nobody learns ANYTHING from others experiences on this damn show. As for how "unique" BB was, I think that doesn't even matter anymore, with Kirkwood in charge of the show. He's making a mockery of it. We had past show runners, who basically turned Hollyoaks into "The Brendan Brady Show" from 2011 to when he was thrown in prison in March 2013. That almost every character that was introduced from end of 2010 to late 2012 had some sort of tie/connection to the mustached one? Enemies, ex-lovers, rivals and family members. Well I guess drug use runs in the family. This is one of the main things that turns me off of Hollyoaks, the same crap over and over just dressed a little different. Well Brendan became Hollyoaks cash cow who would be leaving soon. Of course they were going to use him as much as possible.
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Post by LadyArmand on Aug 13, 2014 11:50:43 GMT -5
At this point Ste’s character is a bad parody of a mythical Greek tragedy. So why not make a parody of his pathetic (I mean epic, I’m gagging I’m gagging, oh dear Lord I’m gagging), relationship with the psychotic (I mean charismatic, look Ma, my teeth didn’t fall out and my tongue isn’t on fire although I keyboard did warm up quite a bit) Brendan Brady? I mean it would be funny if it were so unbelievably ….not. And really if we are honest, we know that there are just some fans who really never want to see Ste happy and stable. This small segment of people are very vocal and seem to have the ears of the people who jeep coming up with this crap. So heads down lad and lasses, let's just plow ahead and see what the end is going to be.
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Post by cheerios on Aug 13, 2014 14:51:06 GMT -5
I'm sick of Ste being the tragic Greek character, I find that boring and cliche. I know it's a soap and Kieron is giving A+ performances but enough is enough. I want to see him rise above this and stay above this. I want John Paul and him to be a happy couple, well as happy they can be in soap world. I want him to be happy and proud of himself, to be comfortable in his own skin. To have a job that he's passionate about and that he can support his family on. To me Ste as a character is at his best when he stood on his own two feet. Watching him repeatedly stumble is painful, but I love his character. So I don't want to turn away.
Though it's hard since there aren't easy ways for me to watch the show anymore.
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Post by mad4tv on Aug 13, 2014 16:34:25 GMT -5
Hollyoaks is really fighting a losing battle here, isn't it? First of all, they're trying to recreate, arguably, one of the most popular characters on the show, which can only end badly. I was never a BB fan but I fully appreciate why he was - and still is - so adored, so I am concerned that Sammy will either be a poor recreation of Brendan, used as a parody or in a comedic way, which would probably be an insult to BB fans, or will be a genuine attempt to try to revive him, but will still offend fans since it won't actually be Brendan. As 'cheerios' mentioned, it was Emmett's portrayal which was probably the most significant factor contributing to his popularity, so it could almost be considered a recast- and we all know how recasts of notable characters are perceived, don't we? Secondly, Sammy is supposedly going to interfere in Ste and John Paul's 'relationship' (if you can call this on-off storyline a 'relationship'), and the 'McHay' coupling has become surprisingly popular despite both characters previously being involved in major romances, Stendan and McDean (though I personally preferred Stug and JPK, but I'm just the minority I guess), which means that combined with bitterness towards the 'I-can't-believe-it's-not-Brendan' character, people are just going to be rooting for McHay to prevail. So unless Andy and Kieron have impeccable chemistry like Emmett and Kieron apparently had (I never saw enough of them to make a judgement, though it must have been pretty spectacular if it made domestic abuse justifiable), then the audience won't experience any real conflict and therefore won't be invested in/care about them.
Slightly off-topic but I totally agree about Richardson's performances; the fact that he can cry about trolls on cue is actually amazing. No wonder they put Ste through so much heartbreak, he depicts Ste's grief brilliantly. But I'd love to see the return of 'early 2012 Ste', when he was gutsy, stubborn, determined and quite funny (anyone else remember his little crush on Ally? It certainly gave an opportunity for some light hearted and fun moments with the character, which is the Ste that I started watching). Itsr highly unlikely we'll see that side of him anymore, but I hope I'm wrong.
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Post by Difficult Diva on Aug 13, 2014 17:24:18 GMT -5
Hollyoaks is really fighting a losing battle here, isn't it? First of all, they're trying to recreate, arguably, one of the most popular characters on the show, which can only end badly. I was never a BB fan but I fully appreciate why he was - and still is - so adored, so I am concerned that Sammy will either be a poor recreation of Brendan, used as a parody or in a comedic way, which would probably be an insult to BB fans, or will be a genuine attempt to try to revive him, but will still offend fans since it won't actually be Brendan. As 'cheerios' mentioned, it was Emmett's portrayal which was probably the most significant factor contributing to his popularity, so it could almost be considered a recast- and we all know how recasts of notable characters are perceived, don't we? Secondly, Sammy is supposedly going to interfere in Ste and John Paul's 'relationship' (if you can call this on-off storyline a 'relationship'), and the 'McHay' coupling has become surprisingly popular despite both characters previously being involved in major romances, Stendan and McDean (though I personally preferred Stug and JPK, but I'm just the minority I guess), which means that combined with bitterness towards the 'I-can't-believe-it's-not-Brendan' character, people are just going to be rooting for McHay to prevail. So unless Andy and Kieron have impeccable chemistry like Emmett and Kieron apparently had (I never saw enough of them to make a judgement, though it must have been pretty spectacular if it made domestic abuse justifiable), then the audience won't experience any real conflict and therefore won't be invested in/care about them.
Slightly off-topic but I totally agree about Richardson's performances; the fact that he can cry about trolls on cue is actually amazing. No wonder they put Ste through so much heartbreak, he depicts Ste's grief brilliantly. But I'd love to see the return of 'early 2012 Ste', when he was gutsy, stubborn, determined and quite funny (anyone else remember his little crush on Ally? It certainly gave an opportunity for some light hearted and fun moments with the character, which is the Ste that I started watching). Itsr highly unlikely we'll see that side of him anymore, but I hope I'm wrong. Agreed with all of your comments, especially regarding loving Stug and JPK (before the need of "Stendan in Dublin" and "Sunset Ending" had to happen). I don't know, I don't think it's a shallow thing to want to see two characters (who profess to love one another) actually TREAT each other with respect, caring and love for at least 90 percent of their time together on the show. I think that Sammy's just going to help continue to bring Ste and JP closer together (despite ALL of the stupidity that's currently being written for those characters). I just cannot help but think that the writers and actors are saying to themselves: "It has been two damn years and counting already. We cannot keep Ste from pursuing any other relationship, due to folks desperately not wanting to let things go!"
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Post by cheerios on Aug 14, 2014 0:16:44 GMT -5
Brendan mess Ste around emotionally, the same with Craig messing John Paul about. I want so badly for Ste and John Paul to work out. They're both out and happy with their sexuality. There no keeping it a secret or affairs. They both have baggage and issues so it wouldn't be boring, without this unnecessary crap storylines. They both struggling young man who have young children. It would be great, if Hollyoaks would just give them a chance. And not waste them like they did with Kieron and John Paul and Ste and Doug.
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Post by Difficult Diva on Aug 24, 2014 10:01:30 GMT -5
It looks like the show cut the "Stripper Brendan" scenes in this week's upcoming episodes. Drat.
It's also rumoured that Germa's quit the show. She's Carmel. It's also rumoured that Kirsty-Lee Porter is leaving/not renewing her contract as Leela Lomaxe.
So, JP finally tells his family about the rape. I want to see how Finn deals with those women all over his ass.
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Post by Difficult Diva on Aug 24, 2014 10:23:58 GMT -5
Brendan mess Ste around emotionally, the same with Craig messing John Paul about. I want so badly for Ste and John Paul to work out. They're both out and happy with their sexuality. There no keeping it a secret or affairs. They both have baggage and issues so it wouldn't be boring, without this unnecessary crap storylines. They both struggling young man who have young children. It would be great, if Hollyoaks would just give them a chance. And not waste them like they did with Kieron and John Paul and Ste and Doug. But DON'T you understand: both Ste and JP can never ever attempt to move on and have new loves and romances, especially if it regards them saying that they've fallen in love with somebody new. Somebody who isn't Craig or Brendan. Even after years of not being with the other guy. That's the main complaint that is always used whenever Ste and JP have made attempts to move in their storylines. They can (according to some unknown of fictional soap character mode of conduct guide for gay male characters) never be able to love another male character as much as they loved the one that made their fandom lose their minds in orgasmic bliss the first time. Don't get me wrong: I know that this type of OTP behavior happens within fictional straight pairings, but those couples are able at times to have affairs, break up, move on, marry others and eventually find a way back together. If those characters are still on the same show at the same time. This need to have had JP (way back in 2008) and Ste (to this very moment) keep themselves in this holding pattern of not ever wanting to be with anyone else, to the point that every new guy that comes into their lives is treated as a pale imitation to who they used to love in their lives gets tiresome to more viewers besides the shipper fandom.
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Post by justinate on Aug 24, 2014 11:27:05 GMT -5
It looks like the show cut the "Stripper Brendan" scenes in this week's upcoming episodes. Drat. It's also rumoured that Germa's quit the show. She's Carmel. It's also rumoured that Kirsty-Lee Porter is leaving/not renewing her contract as Leela Lomaxe. So, JP finally tells his family about the rape. I want to see how Finn deals with those women all over his ass. Why would they cut the stripper scenes? I'm not fussed about the stripper's resemblance to a character I never cared about, but if you cast the guy for his resemblance and then filmed scenes with a tie-in to Ste's past, then why cut them? (Also, I was looking forward to some eye candy. I miss the days when Hollyoaks was a light, frothy soap with heavy drama restricted for when it actually meant something, not the current style of doom and gloom everyday and oh-so-shocking twists every other week. The Carmel actress confirmed that she's quit. Not surprised since they cast two new McQueen ladies, they must have seen this coming. Not sure about Leela. What was the point of the Lomaxes if they just kill them all off? (Given the current regime's penchant, I don't expect to see Leela leave any other way.) At this point, the rape storyline has lost all momentum and become an insult to victims of male rape. The most awful pacing I have ever seen. I bet the end result will be Finn as the next whodunnit victim. (Shocker - his toddler daughter Bella killed him!)
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Post by trini on Aug 24, 2014 13:53:59 GMT -5
I am surprised the cut the "Stripper Brendan" but I was also surprised that they allowed the actor to be so public about it in the first place. Hollyoaks is generally very quite about their extras and new characters but this actors was posting pics on twitter from make up which seem to me that they wanted a rise out of the Brendan/Stendan fan they know that they are a reactionary bunch.
The actress that plays Leela (Kirsty-Lee Porter)have denied the rumours on twitter, but it seems that the rumours started when one of the staff twitted that they would miss her when she left,these tweets where quickly deleted. Also it does look like that she is involve in the up coming stunt.
I've heard form various sources that the show is currently trying to cast a new family which usually means that one of the current families is done.
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Post by Difficult Diva on Aug 24, 2014 15:52:53 GMT -5
I am surprised the cut the "Stripper Brendan" but I was also surprised that they allowed the actor to be so public about it in the first place. Hollyoaks is generally very quite about their extras and new characters but this actors was posting pics on twitter from make up which seem to me that they wanted a rise out of the Brendan/Stendan fan they know that they are a reactionary bunch.DING DING DING. The actor had spoke about his role, 3 to 4 weeks before the episode was supposed to air. Now, all of a sudden the Series Producer says..."no go" and the actor is the one to announce the news?! Hollyoaks and specifically Kirkwood is messing with them. Even though, NOW that those scenes have been cut, the very same folks that had outrage over it are saying that it wouldn't have been so bad. I'm thinking it's the Lomaxes. They were brought in to flesh out Ste Hay, but that has turned into a big massive failure. Ste cannot continue to be on his never ending cycle of self sabotage, if he has a family living in the town. A family that is supposed to care for him and be by his side. Ste needs more trauma to "justify" his need to keep putting himself, his future and his life in jeopardy.
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Post by jjose712 on Aug 24, 2014 15:59:19 GMT -5
I still thing this show pays too much attention of what rabid fanbases say.
I said it before and i say it again, you cannot ignore your fans but that doesn't mean you have to give them everything they want
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Post by trini on Aug 24, 2014 16:20:14 GMT -5
I still thing this show pays too much attention of what rabid fanbases say. I said it before and i say it again, you cannot ignore your fans but that doesn't mean you have to give them everything they want Especially, a fanbase that is also very vocal about the fact that they don't watch the show any more.
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