j9l45
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Post by j9l45 on Jun 7, 2008 0:00:16 GMT -5
j9l45, the smiley under the chair is so cute. I don't know how people do that stuff. Thanks. The queen of smileys around here is Amber80. She has one for every feeling, occasion or word imaginable. I like using the free sites where they give you the code and all you have to do is copy and paste it into your post. You can also use one by download the image onto your computer or copying onto an image hosting site (like photobucket.) At least that's what I have figured out on my own. I've only been using them for about 2 weeks now. I'm sure other people can give you more (and better) info. Back on topic. I went to the other forum and it was indeed a lot of I am excited about Guy returning for a little while. I enjoy watching him and am curious about what the writers have planned. I find it fun to listen to speculation about possible scenarios and characters. But when "think" turns to "know" and "might" turns to "will" I get fed up. I can understand being passionate about a show, and preferring one couple to another, but not when it turns into a war and people start bashing and belittling each other. That is just unnecessary. This is especially frustrating for those of us who like both McDean and McHobbs. There is an assumption that you have to choose one or the other. Pick a side. I can't read about either couple without hearing people hating on the other and its supporters. It's one thing to not like a pairing, it's another to be vicious and spiteful. A-men and hallelujah! Should be set in stone. I don't feel that way about McDean but some fans almost make me want them to feel the spite of TPTB just because their over-zealous adoration is really scary and off. And that makes me angry that I am that fed up with a small groups actions and words. You can love something fictional but it should become the reason you breathe. A small part of me sometimes wishes that whenever James Sutton leaves they kill off his character just so nobody can be happy. It's only a small part and I don't really want it to happen, but still. How sad is that. "If you can't be nice and share your toys, nobody gets to play." ;D So there Ok, I'm done ranting about other forums. I'm just glad to be back here. Such a relief. Two quotes that made my day and express exactly how I feel: Can't people just wait and see? Who knows if James will even still be on the show at that time, especially as JP wasn't mentioned at all. I am not saying he won't have scenes with Craig but there is nothing saying that he, in fact, will. We just don't know at this point. and I love to see Craig again, but I really don't know if I want the SE. To be honest: it's all fine by me: I love both couples equally and all three are interesting characters on their own. So whatever the writers decide: it's all fine by me.. Me too. So long as they don't give us a RoDeVa mess. I had this all typed up and was ready to post when my login session timed out. I had to try and retype it all. It was much better the first time.
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Post by ysatis on Jun 7, 2008 7:40:45 GMT -5
I am so happy that Craig is finally coming back ;D
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Simone
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Post by Simone on Jun 7, 2008 16:22:10 GMT -5
I've lurked on a couple boards and have notice a striking change in tone since Guy posted that he is in negotiations to return to Hollyoaks. All the gloating and snark from the John Paul/Kieron fans has been toned down, kind of like a balloon being popped. After all that time ragging on the McDeaners, the John Paul/Kieron fans are back on their heels and scrambling to reassure themselves about their couple's future. I must say it is quite amusing to see the pendulum swing. Guess, their insiders aren't so "inside" as they thought.
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gigi
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Post by gigi on Jun 7, 2008 18:15:28 GMT -5
"Me too. So long as they don't give us a RoDeVa mess." Ah, but their mistake was making Deniz choose between Roman and Vanessa. (Or try to.) Who says John Paul can't have both? John Paul/Kieron/Craig forever!
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Simone
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Post by Simone on Jun 7, 2008 20:37:27 GMT -5
I thought we are talking here about spoilers ..... not about other threads or fans ... I'm really not interested to read here the same stuff as on DS and I would be really disappointed to see this thread turn to some kind of hate thread How come there were no complaints when others including a moderator posted about the McDeaners in previous posts? There are clearly no rules about not commenting about other forums on this board since it is done all the time.
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Post by shanuti on Jun 8, 2008 12:26:51 GMT -5
If I'm honest, I would hate to see a sunset ending. While I loved the storyline when it was on, I felt the ending it was given was appropriate and kind of... fit. I've become something of a committed McPriester, and honestly feel that if they were to bring McDean back it'd be a little bit wierd (But this could very well be my own bais for JP/Kieron - I think they're far more suited for eachother).
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neand48
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Post by neand48 on Jun 8, 2008 18:12:26 GMT -5
I've become something of a committed McPriester McPriester... love it. As much as I got to seriously dislike Craig, the character, I loved Craig, the actor (I'm too lazy to look for the name of the guy). I'd love to see him back.
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Post by shanuti on Jun 9, 2008 6:12:53 GMT -5
Looks like Craig's definately coming back for some kind of JP-Kieron-Craig love triangle. I guess the spoilers not long ago about JP having to decide between the Past and the Future are as they hinted - JP will have to choose between Kieron and Craig. God, I hope he chooses his future . It does sound like an interesting storyline, though. Although I'm going to feel sorry for Kieron through it all - going through being shunned by his family and by his home and then facing the possibility of the person he gave everything up for leaving him for his first love.
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j9l45
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Post by j9l45 on Jun 9, 2008 6:22:44 GMT -5
I can't wait to see how this plays out. I'm a fan of both couples and would love to see all 3 characters interact.
*secretly hoping for a threesome* ;D
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Post by lolaruns on Jun 9, 2008 6:23:52 GMT -5
I thought the actor who plays Craig indicated heavily that he would only agree to return for a Sunset Ending?
Makes you wonder if that is the reason why the original plan was to kill Kieron, that Kieron dies and JP eventually reunites with Craig. Now, if Kieron survives, I wouldn't mind if he took over as the gay character of HO if JP/James Sutton leaves the show.
Either way, three GUYS triangle for the win!
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Post by Bonobochick on Jun 9, 2008 8:27:23 GMT -5
I thought the actor who plays Craig indicated heavily that he would only agree to return for a Sunset Ending? Makes you wonder if that is the reason why the original plan was to kill Kieron, that Kieron dies and JP eventually reunites with Craig. Now, if Kieron survives, I wouldn't mind if he took over as the gay character of HO if JP/James Sutton leaves the show. Either way, three GUYS triangle for the win! I have to agree. Since my feelings on the matter all depend on if Craig has grown up, cause if he has, then it's really going to be difficult for me to pick who I want JP with though I think Kieron is better for him right now, at least it's a triangle with 3 men. I still can't stand Sarah so now we get the joy of listening to more of her self-centered whining when Craig comes back.
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Post by Difficult Diva on Jun 9, 2008 9:00:49 GMT -5
I still can't stand Sarah so now we get the joy of listening to more of her self-centered whining when Craig comes back. Well, at least it'll be her whining, instead of John-Paul. I love that John-Paul wasn't shown weeping and wailing over pictures of Craig.
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carld2
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Post by carld2 on Jun 9, 2008 10:03:35 GMT -5
Craig treated Sarah horribly and her fury and despondence over what he'd done to her was very well displayed. Unfortunately, after this she all but begged him for another chance and she went into an obnoxious, self-righteous fury about John Paul turning Craig gay and John Paul giving Hannah an eating disorder. Is this going to be more of what we get from her? Please no.
Is Kieron still going to be on the show at this time? Was there a spoiler about Niall driving him out of town? I can see them deciding not to kill Kieron, to avoid the backlash, but then still he leaves town. They don't seem to directly mention him as having a part in this story, although they did say in a previous interview that JP would have to choose between his past and his future.
I can't help thinking they may just let Kieron disappear like what they did with Spike. I would much rather see him stay, because he's a great character and the show doesn't have any other gay characters once John Paul leaves.
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Post by amber80 on Jun 9, 2008 11:01:00 GMT -5
I thought the actor who plays Craig indicated heavily that he would only agree to return for a Sunset Ending? Makes you wonder if that is the reason why the original plan was to kill Kieron, that Kieron dies and JP eventually reunites with Craig. Now, if Kieron survives, I wouldn't mind if he took over as the gay character of HO if JP/James Sutton leaves the show. Either way, three GUYS triangle for the win! I have to agree. Since my feelings on the matter all depend on if Craig has grown up, cause if he has, then it's really going to be difficult for me to pick who I want JP with though I think Kieron is better for him right now, at least it's a triangle with 3 men. I still can't stand Sarah so now we get the joy of listening to more of her self-centered whining when Craig comes back. Agreeing with both of you. I'm really curious if and how Craig changed in that year of absence and how JP will react. And Kieron... (Who hopefully will still be around. ) A love triangle between three guys: wonderful! We had JP/Spike/Craig before, but Spike was more of a plot device than a full character. I do hope it won't be a predicitable SE just to satisfy some fans. I'm hoping for a surprising storyline with some twists...
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Simone
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Post by Simone on Jun 9, 2008 12:14:35 GMT -5
Ménage à trois, anyone? Even though Guy Burnet leaked that news late last week, I still shocked that Digital Spy confirmed that Craig is returning so quickly. The Digital Spy even leaks that Craig that is returning to rekindle his romance with John Paul so their storyline will be resolved one way or the other. I thought for sure that John Paul would be gone by the time that Craig returned, but now if the storyline is happening in September, I'm beginning to think that John Paul may indeed leave with Craig. Wow. To quote Darren, "didn't see that one coming."
Let the bedlam begin.
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Post by harmonium on Jun 9, 2008 12:29:12 GMT -5
Oh 'great', someone to spoil the good relationship between JP and Kieron. Hahaha. But it will be nice to see Kieron and Craig fighting over JP. Love triangle is always a good story but hopefully Kieron is the one who will end up with JP eventually. Hehehe.
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Post by ysatis on Jun 9, 2008 13:12:18 GMT -5
I'm a happy Mc Dean fan ;D
And now that Craig is coming back maybe JP will again have some regular airtime.
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Post by cakefan on Jun 9, 2008 17:23:18 GMT -5
Hannah said it all along "You can't ruin someone's life because you're still in love with your ex" And it looks like that is exactly what John Paul is going to do Gay triangle - yum yum, the lovely Guy Burnet - yes neand48, the guy's name is Guy - returning as a more balanced Craig - more yum yum. Kieron heartbroken, well, not really looking forward to seeing that I might say. But at least Kris will be there to pick up the pieces...
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Post by Bonobochick on Jun 9, 2008 17:27:35 GMT -5
Hannah said it all along "You can't ruin someone's life because you're still in love with your ex" And it looks like that is exactly what John Paul is going to do Gay triangle - yum yum, the lovely Guy Burnet - yes neand48, the guy's name is Guy - returning as a more balanced Craig - more yum yum. Kieron heartbroken, well, not really looking forward to seeing that I might say. But at least Kris will be there to pick up the pieces... I am all about the "wait and see" at this point. We know Guy is coming back, we know that it's going to be a triangle of with K/JP/C... we don't know anything beyond that like who will be heartbroken in the end.
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Simone
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Post by Simone on Jun 9, 2008 17:49:25 GMT -5
We may not "know" anything specific, but the probability is much higher that John Paul is going off with Craig than leaving by himself or with Kieron. If the plan to have John Paul leave with Kieron or by himself why have Guy return? Clearly, the character most likely to have his heartbroken in this triangle is Kieron.
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Post by cakefan on Jun 9, 2008 18:00:04 GMT -5
Fully agree with Simone, there. For the reasons she states (what else would be the point in having GB return) and for the following reasons in addition to that: Because GB would not come back to Hollyoaks only to disappoint all Craig Dean fans. Because of the way soaps are written: they have characters say stuff like what Hannah said and then turn that into reality a few episodes later (she did the same thing with JP/C/Sarah, mind you "I hope someone you can't stop loving will rip your heart out for everyone to see it"). And then of course there are the various thing the actors have said about both storylines. Not to mention the fact that Craig Dean's exit was written open-ended as it was, with the producers hoping GB would return for James Sutton/John Paul's exit. Of course we can choose to believe in epicycles, but in my opinion the earth revolves around the sun.
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Post by tihkon2 on Jun 9, 2008 18:43:10 GMT -5
Edited by myself to remove what might be construed as an "I told you so" ;D This story ought to be interesting any which way it goes.
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Post by Bonobochick on Jun 9, 2008 19:01:28 GMT -5
Honestly, I don't care either way as long as JP is happy. I am a JP fan, first and foremost. What I want is a well-written, plausible story when the triangle does kick in. Anything other than that depends on the story the writers create come September. I just don't want people writing the story before it happens nor putting their own spin on things before Craig even makes his first appearance and say this is how it's going to be, I just know it. Hence my "wait and see" approach. Months of "insider scoops" and fandom drama have worn me out (not a knock on you tihkon looking at your post above mine, but if you've been on the DigSpy boards for the past year, you know exactly what I am referring to). I want to enjoy the storyline both present and future and not have it be about finger pointing of "ha! ha! I told you!". I love the show & the characters but the fandom drives me bonkers because some people take it too seriously about certain desires - on all sides - that they have for the show and the characters.
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Post by tihkon2 on Jun 9, 2008 19:11:45 GMT -5
BonobochickOh grrllll....I know. I left DigitalSpy right around the time Guy Burnett's last episode aired. It wore me out! I've only popped in once or twice to say hi to friends there, and it's scary! I will admit that I'm a Guy fan, more so than James , so I'm just happy he's back, period. ;D Anyhow...the story itself should be interesting. (Hopefully!)
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Post by sheepiefarm on Jun 9, 2008 19:32:47 GMT -5
Honestly, I don't care either way as long as JP is happy. I am a JP fan, first and foremost. What I want is a well-written, plausible story when the triangle does kick in. Anything other than that depends on the story the writers create come September. I just don't want people writing the story before it happens nor putting their own spin on things before Craig even makes his first appearance and say this is how it's going to be, I just know it. Hence my "wait and see" approach. Months of "insider scoops" and fandom drama have worn me out (not a knock on you tihkon looking at your post above mine, but if you've been on the DigSpy boards for the past year, you know exactly what I am referring to). I want to enjoy the storyline both present and future and not have it be about finger pointing of "ha! ha! I told you!". I love the show & the characters but the fandom drives me bonkers because some people take it too seriously about certain desires - on all sides - that they have for the show and the characters. >>>>>>clap clap clap<<<<<<< my thoughts too b-chick argue / fall out over what has happened - don't waste time falling out over what has yet to be screened
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