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Post by mona on Sept 6, 2009 13:07:24 GMT -5
I had the feeling work changes meant nothing lately. David = nothing, Judith at NL = nothing, Nathalie at Brandner Bau = nothing (She fell for Matthias before and we don't see them working together now), Lydia at the Lahnstein holding = nothing, Olivia back at Schneiders = nothing. That's why I don't believe it's a huge thing for Christian either. It's probably for the small moments (talking to Stella, catching Rebecca, giving Justus more moments). It's more likely he'll get something there now but after months, I don't think this was the only purpose. Then he would probably start to work there a few days before someone arrives.
But I doubt they do that (long) if Ollian is the endgame. This is more something for couples they want to promote when someone new is coming. Like Christian and Coco were endgame. Which would make me afraid then what they do at all. That's the one thing I don't wanna get: The same thing Christian always got. But I don't really think they do that anyway. The hot phase with the illness and Gregor is over and it's not how they want to show Olli IMO. If Gregor dies, I'm a little afraid they could use that.
Maybe it get's important for story twists, like Christian hearing something from Eduard at the castle and warning Luise and so on.
I really have the though that they consider the illness/castle thing as a story. Over. Maybe it doesn't take long and he's healthy again.
I think the sister vs. sister thing is something they could've given Judith. I would love to see new Hagendorfs in the show.
I also read many thoughts from people that the kisses probably showed they don't want to give them a long cheating story. So they came up with a story (illness) and as the Forbidden love factor they got the little kisses. Which makes me happy, because I don't think Ollian would be really good for a triangle.
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Post by mona on Sept 6, 2009 13:15:06 GMT -5
For some reason I believe Tristan/Lydia could be possible. She lives at the castle now and I bet Sebastian will begin to get his daughter soon. Because if they don't plan longer with Sebastian and this is the last LySeb story. Giving Lydia someone else would work. Sebastian get's his daughter and leaves. But they would keep Lydia at the castle with it. But I'm still for a huge Judith/Tristan thing. They would look cute together and I'm afraid he'll be the last newbie for a longer time. My Andi wish is gone, Rebecca and Helena need him and my joy for his return is almost gone if I think about that...
Jo Weils fighting for love maybe meant the miriam/Rebecca and so on things. Although I hope Christian get's heart issues again and needs a transplantation. I mean, Sturm der Liebe is doing it too. Edurad could do something on the wedding and Christian get's a heart attack.
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Post by jj8899 on Sept 6, 2009 19:01:31 GMT -5
what's the longest a main character (two main characters, a main COUPLE!! infact) has gone without a SL?! a real SL i mean? i don't count stuff which is like a sub-plot to the main flow of the show... because chrolli's last proper SL has to be coming up to over a year ago now doesn't it?
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Post by mona on Sept 6, 2009 20:34:52 GMT -5
About "moments". Maybe they do a moment where Olli, Christian or whoever else tells her that Gregor is better? Making her thankful or a moment out of joy after she was down because of her sister? Like hugging and then it's awkward? But I don't even care. I'm even mad that I'm sure Rebecca is among "friends" when the spoiler says it...
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Post by mona on Sept 7, 2009 18:55:42 GMT -5
Tristan being into woman could make a good lovestory with Judith. Or she get's together with Tristan, Constantin decides to win her back and they leave Düsseldorf together and Tristan has to wait for someone else.
I'm still not over the wedding attack though. Just imagine Ollian have a crisis and break up, LySeb and GreLu will seem and act like the couples who "made it" because they're "better".
Maybe Eduard needs a third try for killing Gregor? A thing like Mark and Henning on the small tower'?
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Post by mona on Sept 21, 2009 13:17:59 GMT -5
I don't know why but today I got the feeling the "Hiding his sickness" story is possible. That Christian feels how his heart his getting worse and worse and he can't tell Olli for whatever reason. Maybe because Olli is too happy now, making plans for their life and so on?
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Post by kes on Sept 21, 2009 13:23:48 GMT -5
I don't know why but today I got the feeling the "Hiding his sickness" story is possible. That Christian feels how his heart his getting worse and worse and he can't tell Olli for whatever reason. Maybe because Olli is too happy now, making plans for their life and so on? That would be sad, but true to character. I hope, if they go that route, they put some focus on Olli and have him "find" Christian where he is emotionally hiding.
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Post by sio127 on Sept 21, 2009 14:41:02 GMT -5
I don't know why but today I got the feeling the "Hiding his sickness" story is possible. That Christian feels how his heart his getting worse and worse and he can't tell Olli for whatever reason. Maybe because Olli is too happy now, making plans for their life and so on? That would be sad, but true to character. I hope, if they go that route, they put some focus on Olli and have him "find" Christian where he is emotionally hiding. I was thinking the same thing Mona.... and Kes what a lovely way of phrasing.......
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Post by mona on Sept 21, 2009 17:17:37 GMT -5
I think in that photo Christian has this look like he wants Olli to be carefree even though he actually needs him.
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Post by mona on Sept 22, 2009 15:44:32 GMT -5
I have a new wish (There's no wish thread?, so...) A friendship between Olli and Tristan. I liked Olli being there for Olivia even though she was "trouble" and so is Tristan. He seems to like the NL a lot as a place to flirt but that could also include nice talks with Olli. When Christian notices that Tristan isn't so nice (for example Rebeccas dress) it could also give a few nice scenes where Christian is worried. In fact, Tristan sounds a lot like single - Olli just a little mean.
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Post by fuzzyfishy on Oct 10, 2009 16:24:18 GMT -5
I think a storyline involving one of the guys having a previously unknown kid would be great well-needed drama right now and could be a long drawn out SL which Chrolli hasn't had for a long time. And it would center on the two guys and show a lot about their relationship, and cause conflict but also show their deep love for one another, and in the end give them a child together and make them even stronger.
I am sorry this is so darn long. I will split it into two posts to help a little.
So the storyline starts with Christian and Olli being totally happy and content. Possibly both of them are thinking about marriage, but Olli thinks Christian might not be really ready since he's younger and (possibly still in school, I'm not sure if he is right now with the horse apprenticeship) has a somewhat new job and Olli just doesn't want to rock the boat and decides to wait awhile or let Christian bring it up. But Olli doesn't give Christian enough credit and actually Christian, at the same time, is thinking that he would love to marry Olli and wants to propose and he wants it to be a total surprise to Olli. So he plans on how to propose and since Christian is so bad with speeches he writes down and plans on what exactly to say for the proposal and there can a be cute scene of him scratching out lots of stuff because he can't get it right, or something like that. Around this same time an ex-girlfriend (or possibly a one-night stand) of Olli’s shows up at NL. Olli is pleasantly surprised to see her and introduces her to Christian. Christian isn’t jealous because it’s obvious Olli is not interested in her and Olli is just happy to catch up with an old friend. The woman though seems to be a little into Olli and wants to know all about his life… On the day that Christian plans to propose, the woman tells Olli that she has a daughter and he is the father; Olli is shocked and in disbelief. He thought they used protection and doesn't know what to say. After that he goes upstairs, where Christian has been trying to memorize the proposal and when Olli comes in, he quickly hides the paper with the speech on it somewhere in the apartment so Olli won‘t see. Christian can tell Olli is shellshocked about something so they sit down and Olli blurts out that he might have a kid and explains what he was just told. Now Christian is dumbfounded and speechless, but he says we’ll figure this out (and obviously decides to hold off on the proposal). The next day the woman calls up and asks if Olli would like to see the girl. Olli, a little reluctantly, agrees and gets all nervous and Christian calms him down. Olli makes sure Christian will be there. (The girl they would cast as the daughter has to be adorable, precocious, and utterly cute because there’s no way a daughter of Olli’s would be anything else, y/y? ) The mom introduces Olli to the daughter as a good friend (to take things slow for the child and Olli). Olli is nervous around the girl. As the two get to know each other a little, Christian, without realizing it, has moved somewhere in the background because internally he is feeling a little freaked out that his boyfriend has a whole different life type of thing and seeing Olli and the girl together makes him unsure. The girl likes Olli instantly and Olli warms up to her (i.e. is less nervous and not scared). Days pass… stuff happens… Olli and the kid spend more time together and Olli becomes totally comfortable with her. The mom and Olli tell the girl that Olli is her dad and the girl is happy about that… Olli feels like a he’s getting use to being a dad. Christian however sometimes thinks that he doesn‘t know how or where he fits in when Olli, the mom and girl spend time together, although Olli tries to get Christian involved in whatever they are doing… The mom secretly wants to reunite with Olli so she tries to sabotage Chrolli. At some point, she points out to Olli that him and Christian are just living together and there’s no permanent commitment between them, which is sad because the audience knows that Christian wanted to get married but Olli doesn’t know that, and things like that will hurt Olli a little and make him feel a little less and less good about his relationship with Christian. And there are bigger things that the mom will do to break them up. For instance, one time when Olli is suppose to have the girl for the day, but he has to cover at NL for an hour, so he asks Christian to meet the mom somewhere to pick up the kid. Christian is always a little hesitant to be alone with the kid due to him thinking he is horrible with children and feeling uneasy about what is happening with him and Olli, but he agrees. The mom sees Christian at the pick up spot and decides to leave with the girl before Chris sees them. Christian tells Olli he waited and waited but they never showed.; the mom tells Olli separately that she showed up but Christian wasn’t there, so Olli, knowing that Christian didn’t really want to pick up the girl, isn’t sure who to trust and this shows how their relationship is starting to weaken. Olli also thinks Christian is unreceptive of the kid, but it is really Christian’s fears that make him seem that way, so that’s more misunderstanding. Christian’s dislike for the mom grows and that too causes friction for Chrolli. So all these types of things drive wedges between Chrolli, but it’s shown to the audience that they both truly do love and care about each other (so the audience won‘t give up hope). It’s just that they don’t see that from each other, and they just feel that the other one is kinda sabotaging the relationship or that the other would be happier without him. Olli thinks that he is holding Christian back now that he has a child and that Christian didn't sign up for this, where as Christian thinks it would be easier for Olli to get to know his daughter without Chris there. It gets to the point where they break up or take a break and Christian moves out (this could be prompted by a huge lie or deceitful thing the mom did and each of the guys thinks the wrong thing but don’t explain it to each other). Both the guys are very bummed and depressed about what has happened between them, but whenever they see each other (at NL or wherever) they both act like they’re fine, so they each always think that the other is fine with the break up. There is a day when Olli needs a babysitter and Chris hears somehow and says he’ll do it which surprises Olli. It shows that no matter what, Christian will always be there for Olli. While he’s babysitting her, the girl makes Christian realize there’s nothing to be scared of, and he and the child bond; it’s a pretty sweet moment, and shows the audience that the three of them one day could be a real happy family…
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Post by fuzzyfishy on Oct 10, 2009 16:25:34 GMT -5
Time passes. At some point the mom comes up with a reason for her to need to move in with Olli or they have to get married, like so she can stay in the country or otherwise Olli wouldn’t get to see his daughter regularly. Christian hears about Olli possibly doing that and is totally heartbroken at the thought of it. Olli comes to incorrectly think that Christain has moved on with somebody (Justus maybe?) and is now also heartbroken because he knows he’s lost the love of his life. Olli decides it’s probably best that he allow the mom to move in or get married to her, whichever it is. The day before that is to happen Olli is cleaning or something and finds the paper that Christian wrote the proposal speech on and hid. Olli reads what Christian wrote, how he wants to share all the ups and downs with him and sweet stuff like that. It makes Olli realize that Christian did (and hopefully does) want to be with him even if things aren’t perfect and Olli should have had more faith in Christian’s love, etc. So the paper opens up Olli’s eyes big time. The next scene Christian comes over (for whatever reason Olli came up with to get him to come) and maybe there are candles and stuff or not. Olli does the talking before Christian can say much, and says everything that should have been said earlier between them when they had miscommunication issues. At the end he gets down on one knee but Christian is so shocked he gets down on his knees too so they are still at eye level, and Olli proposes , and Christian says yes, and it’s awesome, and they kiss which should be the best kiss ever. After, Olli wants to tell everyone that they are back together and engaged, but Christian says they have time for that but tonight is just for them. A bedroom scene might come next. The next day they tell the mom to come over, and as a united front, they lay down the law with her and tell her how it’s going to be. They tell her they are getting married and that she will not interfere in their relationship anymore, and so on. Then they talk to the girl and tell her they’re back together and are getting married. She is very happy for them and excited to be the flower girl. It is a really cute scene with the two hot dads and the girl. She kinda becomes a mini Judith and will always champion the couple. Later that day Christian tells Olli he has called everyone over to NL so they can tell them that they’re engaged and have a little party or something. When the guys come in and are about announce to the crowd Christian takes over and, in front of everybody, he proposes to Olli. Olli is like ‘ahh I already did this, did you forget?’ but Christian says since it was his idea originally, he should at least get to propose too. Olli accepts of course, and everyone cheers. I think it is nice that both of them each get to propose to the other, to keep things balanced. Time passes… One day Chrolli have a talk and Olli tells Christian he wants Chris to be a father figure to the girl because they will be a family, so Christian is very touched by this and feels good about the family idea.
Another thing that could happen is if the mom, who is angry about the guys getting back together, tells Olli that he might not even be the father and the mom doesn’t know either way because it could have been another guy she slept with around that time or whatever. This makes Olli think he should do a DNA test, but when the time comes to read the results Olli realizes that whether he is the biological father or not, he loves the girl just as a dad would and the results won’t change that, so he decides to throw them away without looking, and Christian is there the whole time helping him realize that and support him, and Christian is happy too because he loves the girl too. It could be a really good emotional scene for the two of them. And it leaves the door open for a possible future storyline where the other possible father shows up wanting to know if the girl is his and wanting to take her and Chrolli have to fight for her.
Then the mom could maybe have a storyline (to move her into other people’s lives besides Chrolli) where she still has to marry somebody to stay in the country, and to keep the daughter near them, Chrolli asks one of their friends to marry her and another storyline begins… But if the character of the mom hasn’t caught on (obviously she probably won’t be liked, but at least she should be interesting enough to watch) she could be written out by showing her to be a bad mother by using the daughter as leverage all the time, and putting her interests before the child, etc. and at some point she would be forced to move somewhere else but Chrolli would convince her to leave the child with them. But that could be troublesome because it’s kinda good to have the girl not always living with Chrolli because otherwise they might just become the boring parents, and make it more difficult for future storylines. Another possibility is if the mom leaves just for a while, and the storyline could be Chrolli living with the child 24/7 and all the issues that would arise. But then the mother could come back when she has cleaned up her act and the girl moves back in with the mother, allowing Chrolli a new storyline.
Another way for the whole Chrolli breaking up storyline to happen is that it doesn’t have to be the mom who is damaging their relationship, but possibly some friend who wants Christian for him/herself.
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Post by mona on Oct 14, 2009 20:15:24 GMT -5
When I had to think about Olivia again I thought I really want a scene then where Olli goes to the place she dies there's still the insulting picture of her which could lead to a breakdown where he tries to rip it off. (I'm dreaming of so many strong character moments... Sad if nothing will ever happen and all we ever get will be "Rebecca got a new job. Sekt!"....)
(as for Christian/Rebecca. I don't think they're in a story now, not enough moments but the writers could get ideas for the next thing if they thought that's Rebeccas storyline but what are we giving Chrolli next?). Like I don't even think they planned Nico/Andi when the twins showed up at the show. That just happened step by step. (And I think the writers got that lame they think in steps like we make Rebecca only until that day and the next day we start an Ollian storyline so we have to create a moment because we kinda had build up per accident with our Rebecca only thing). A few years ago you couldn't even think in "storylines" on VL because they had so many twists happening all around.
But I even guess Rebecca get's a Rückfall soon when her father comes and he'll prefer Helena I bet. and also why isn't Tristan doing anything more to prevent Helena/Andi?
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Post by Zam on Oct 14, 2009 22:16:28 GMT -5
I wanted to bring the great bread debate over here.
Rebecca is CLEARLY reaching for the whole wheat bread, when everyone knows that CHRISTIAN gets to take his share of the wheat bread before the others.
Rebecca is more than welcome to the Rye.
This is before the next scene where Rebecca's hand is shown in a cast.
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Post by Nitty on Oct 15, 2009 7:23:32 GMT -5
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!
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Post by mona on Oct 15, 2009 8:16:30 GMT -5
Can't wait for the next six weeks before we find that out. Someone on the official forum writes there are going to be more Waldensteycks besides Luise and her aunt Josephine. If that's true there's a high chance at least something could happen with Ollian because most others are now in a story. Or there's at least a handsome Mr. who likes Rebecca. But I wanted more relatives from Eduard
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Post by Zam on Oct 15, 2009 19:48:23 GMT -5
Can't wait for the next six weeks before we find that out. Someone on the official forum writes there are going to be more Waldensteycks besides Luise and her aunt Josephine. If that's true there's a high chance at least something could happen with Ollian because most others are now in a story. Or there's at least a handsome Mr. who likes Rebecca. But I wanted more relatives from Eduard More Waldensteycks are not going solve the central problem of Rebecca only having Olli and Chris to have stories with, and the other way around. More adults added to the cast (as we can only presume more W's would mean) mean less "kids" for Reb to "play with".
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Post by mona on Oct 15, 2009 19:54:14 GMT -5
But Rebecca also "played" with Gregor Today I got the other impression of the theory Christian could fake his illness and hide it from Olli. Maybe a break up (or a short thing with Rebecca included) could happen but if something serious happens they would need each other. I just thought that if they would've broken up because of something and then todays episode came Christian would need Olli anyway. Because he's the only one where he can be open like that. (Then also Luises stupid words would make sense if she would say to Olli that Christian would need the comfort). No one could ever tell me Ollian could be apart but not run to each other when the other one has problems. Their love is too deep to separate that. Well, whatever, I have to sleep now.
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Post by sigi on Oct 20, 2009 7:33:17 GMT -5
I found this comment today in the Chrolli-Vlog; the name of the writer is "Andreas":
MARK MY WORDS. CHRISTIAN AND REBECCA WILL HAPPEN. A FRIEND OF MINE WHO KNOW JASMIN LORD WHO PLAY REBECCA TOLD HIM SHE JUST FILMED A KISSING SCENE WITH THORE (CHRISTIAN). IT OVER CHROLLI’S FAN, THE WRITERS NEEDED TO FIND A LOVE INTEREST FOR MISS SOAP 2009 AND CHRISTIAN IS THE UNFORTUNATE INDIVIDUAL. AND THE CURRENT HEAD WRITER HATE CHROLLI, SO IT’S TWO BIRD WITH ONE STONE.
I guess, if this is the true about the upcoming Chrolli-story VL will lost a lot of spectators. My hope is: thats only a gossip.
Please, excuse my english...I am not use to write in this language.
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Post by degenhard on Oct 20, 2009 7:34:46 GMT -5
If this ominous writer "Andreas" is right then it´ll be the story, where Ollian are fighting for their relationship and that horrific Rebecca is the woman who has a big part of it. Hopefully this is only a gossip otherwise it´ll make me angry about the lack of sensibility about Ollian. I´ll only believe it, when I will see it. Thanks, sigi, for this comment made on the Ollian V- Blog.
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Post by mona on Oct 20, 2009 7:41:28 GMT -5
True or not, it ruins my day because it could be true. And the Miss Soap thing makes sense. Of course we don't know if this means they would get together (horrible...) because technically, Jasmin Lord also filmed a kissing scene with Jo Weil as we know. But if they go that way because they "hate" Chrolli, this would really be a big shock and just... shit. Also I think there were comments before to make fans nervous. Actually what would hurt me the most, is real feelings and Christian breaking with Olli because he loves Rebecca and then acting like a couple in front of him. I don't know why why Gregors Ex should fit with Christian, but well...
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Post by sweetsheep on Oct 20, 2009 7:45:34 GMT -5
After reading the spoilers I was (and still am) convinced, that Christian and Rebecca will happen. But I don't think it will be the end for Christian and Olli in VL, but maybe a lot of fans will be through with their story and stop watching.
But to say, the storyliner hate Christian and Olli is just childish. I don't think this person really knows something we don't.
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Post by flo86 on Oct 20, 2009 7:51:12 GMT -5
omg no end of chrolli...i'm crying and i will stop watching the show...i don't what to say anymore....poor Olli
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Post by mona on Oct 20, 2009 7:51:34 GMT -5
There's one thing if they don't want them anymore: They can break up (without Rebecca) or leave the show but a real thing with Rebecca is really the end. If Christian really starts to believe he has feelings for her. Poor Olli I think if all that happens, I'll "hate" Christian. Which makes it not possible to ship them anymore, just be angry at the writers. (I mean, what a "Tausch" for Christian/Thore then. Overall this should be a very hard downfall or whatever you call it from many perspectives.).
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Post by degenhard on Oct 20, 2009 7:52:18 GMT -5
After reading the spoilers I was (and still am) convinced, that Christian and Rebecca will happen. But I don't think it will be the end for Christian and Olli in VL, but maybe a lot of fans will be through with their story and stop watching. But to say, the storyliner hate Christian and Olli is just childish. I don't think this person really knows something we don't. Thanks for your comment, sweetsheep. Just to be honest, I was always afraid of Christian and Rebecca having an affair which leads up to a up-to-time separation of Christian and Olli - but even if that case will happen, I don´t believe that Ollian will be separated forever. It sounds silly to me that the chief head writer really hates Ollian - one would be stupid, selfish and childish to destroy the great world-wide fanbase of Ollian.... Hopefully this is really a very, very bad gossip. After all that ominous writer has not a very good knowledge of writing the English language correctly...
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