Wolf Pack (Paramount+)

[justinate]

Amid news today that Sarah Michelle Gellar is joining the cast of Wolf Pack, I also noticed another piece of casting news slipped us by. Tyler Lawrence Gray (20yo) has been tapped to play Harlan, who identifies as queer according to the character description. The casting news also said production began at the end of last month, and rather ambitiously stated it would premiere before the end of the year.

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[dmagiclight]

Thwe Wolf Pack is supposed to have A gay male character but with Jeff Davis at the Helm I wont hold my breath

[mrfixit477]

wolf pack will be on January 26, 2023



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[mrfixit477]

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[mrfixit477]

Harlan is gay played by Tyler Lawrence Gray

[justinate]

Looking at that trailer, Harlan is the last of the 4 main teens to be introduced, which I suspect will also reflect his relative prominence in the series. They do sneak in a couple of blink-and-miss shots of him dancing in a nightclub and kissing another guy (can't make out who the other actor is). Maybe we will be pleasantly surprised, but I won't be holding my breath either. Everything looks set up for the gay representation here to be very similar to Teen Wolf (right down to the gay club scene). It's a shame that, when given the opportunity to create a show with a queer male principal protagonist, Jeff Davis once again chose not to - as he did every time there was a cast change on Teen Wolf.

Here's the Wolf Pack panel at New York Comic Con earlier this month. It's telling that the audience cheers the loudest when Tyler (the actor playing Harlan) mentions his character is gay, but he follows it up immediately by saying that his sexuality/romance is only one (presumably minor) part of the character. I suspect he didn't want to oversell it when he realized how enthusiastic the fans were about that facet of his character. (If you want to watch that bit, it's towards the end of Part 1 of the clips below.)

[angel]

Mr Fixit, had created for Wolfpack an own thread.

But about the gay content, I am really sceptical, because of Jeff Davis. First he must proof that he can, what he allways said in the past.

Wolfpack

[dmagiclight]

With Jeff Davis at the Helm again not holding out much hope that the Gay Male character will have any real story or screen time

[justinate]

They wrapped production on season 1 a couple of days ago.

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[mizuryuu]

Even with an explicitly gay character, I still have very low expectation

[justinate]

Trailer out now. Predictably, Harlan doesn't seem to appear much despite being promoted as one of four leads. Let's be real: no show has four leads. At most there are two, so Harlan is nothing more than a secondary lead, if that. Sarah Michelle Gellar, who is not being called a lead, appears more than him in the trailer.

[angelsblood13]

I have a little bit hope last, but not much. My feeling is, it is maybe a new token gay character, like Danny, with maybe a bit more screen time. But yes, because of Jeff Davis, but with not much trustefull hopes. I will watch the first episodes, especially also because of Sarah Michelle Gellar.

[overtherainbow]

I don't have much hope for this. American tv shows hate their gay characters. Teen Wolf treated their gays like shit. Why will it be any different with Wolf Pack?

[dmagiclight]

with way that A lot networks are cancelling shows with LGBTQ Characters in the Main cast I do not this being A Multi season show

[angelsblood13]

The first reviews are out and it looks not good.
It seams that Jeff Davis has not improved as writer and producer. 
Sarah Michel Gellar, are mostly not in the first 2 Episodes. And the characters say, what they are, how they feel, but don't act and don't behavior how they should. Like words, telling is enough, instead of act that way. 

[mrfixit477]

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[mizuryuu]

I'm just going to wait until someone put out cuts of just the Harlan storyline (assuming he even get one and not just supporting the main characters)

[dmagiclight]

I have Watched all current Episodes And so far in my option The LGBTQ content is So much better the Teen Wolf ever was

[justinate]

Feb 11, 2023 13:21:42 GMT -5 dmagiclight said:

I have Watched all current Episodes And so far in my option The LGBTQ content is So much better the Teen Wolf ever was

I mean, the very fact that the gay teen is a secondary protagonist on the regular cast puts its way ahead. On Teen Wolf, a show that was hugely overrated for its LGBTQ+ representation, the gay character was not even a regular castmember. BOTH times, he was merely the best friend to the secondary protagonist: Danny as Jackson's best friend and Mason as Liam's best friend - it was beyond insulting that, even when they introduced the second generation (betas), Jeff Davis, now knowing the show had a significant gay following, decided to retread the same tired formula, right down to the gay best friend being an ethnic minority otherwise unrepresented on the main cast.

[mizuryuu]

It is obvious the twins are secondary protagonist, but at least Harlon seems to be the one with the bigger role than the sister. I am guessing there won't be any love interest for Harlon this season, but at least they did not shy from the sex, even though it is with a new guy each time. Hopefully, if this show last long enough, Harlon will actually get a love interest.

[angelsblood13]

But I think the problem with Harlem is, he is not really likable. He is easy on the eyes, but his character so far, not everybodys cup of tea.
Danny was at least a very likable character.

I think the whole Show, what is missing is the funny, the humor, what make Teenwolf at least easy watchable.

[kgwana]

I feel like he’s meant to be more like Derek than Danny and if my memory serves me well, Derek wasn’t likeable in the first season he came off as the villain until it was revealed that the actual villain was his uncle.

[angelsblood13]

In the first season Derek was a more likeable character than Harlem, because of the backround history of his family. Yes Derek was a mystery guy, because yes he could also be the villian, or something a part of the villian, but it was really clear from the first step, that he is not a bad guy, and only wanted to help and was a victim, so someone you get easy hooked, liked. In the first episode was Derek introduced as the victim, as only surviver, of a huge fire, yes he could be the fire raiser, but it was solved at least comparing to Wolfpack fast enough, so the audience, because of simple psychology like mostly the victims, but also the mystery, get attached, hooked by it, because of how the story was tellt in Teenwolf.

Harlem is more a Jackson character, but Jackson was at the first Season a love to hate character, because he was the classic super rich spoiled brat, wich explanes his behavior and make him more likeable, because adopted and rich and no one unterstands him really.

But Harlem is nothing of both, not much mystery around him, the mystery is more about SMG Character, who is she, and also no spoiled brat, that you get an explanation how, why Harlem act, like he acts. Also his oversexualization, his sex drive is also a behavior what make him not really likeable, because it looks this is his only characterism he is a slut. I think they wanted to creat a gay version of Chuck Bass (Gossip Girl), also love to hate character, but sorry to say this, the actor is in this case is miscast, he can not play this role. 

Maybe it gets better, but the start is not good so far, for his character. We are on Episode 3, comparing to Teenwolf this would be Episode 4 in Teenwolf, because 12 Episodes, versus 8 Episodes Season 1. And we knew a lot more after Episode 4 in Teenwolf about the characters in general, than we know in Wolfpack so far.

I would say, so far is Everett and Garret the only really likeable character in Wolfpack. Maybe it had also something to do, that I think this are the 2 best actor performances so far.

[mizuryuu]

Feb 15, 2023 10:02:33 GMT -5 angelsblood13 said:

But I think the problem with Harlem is, he is not really likable. He is easy on the eyes, but his character so far, not everybodys cup of tea.
Danny was at least a very likable character.

I think the whole Show, what is missing is the funny, the humor, what make Teenwolf at least easy watchable.

He isn't very likeable, but neither is Blake, really.

Feb 15, 2023 14:20:52 GMT -5 angelsblood13 said:

Also his oversexualization, his sex drive is also a behavior what make him not really likeable, because it looks this is his only characterism he is a slut. I think they wanted to creat a gay version of Chuck Bass (Gossip Girl), also love to hate character, but sorry to say this, the actor is in this case is miscast, he can not play this role. 

Maybe it gets better, but the start is not good so far, for his character. We are on Episode 3, comparing to Teenwolf this would be Episode 4 in Teenwolf, because 12 Episodes, versus 8 Episodes Season 1. And we knew a lot more after Episode 4 in Teenwolf about the characters in general, than we know in Wolfpack so far.

I kind of agree about his only characterization being sex-related. Not the dreams/fantasies, cause Blake and Everett get that too, but the starting club scene, the sleeping with Blake's old friend's boyfriend, and the look with the guy at the task force base. It is great that WP is not shying away from gay sex, but Harlan should have some other character/story beyond just that. I don't think he is supposed to be a love to hate character, just a lone wolf archetype character with trust issues. That isn't uncommon for shows to have a loner character, just that usually it is the brooding bad boy, the misunderstood geek, or the teenager that is angry with everyone and everything.

I actually prefer the pacing of WP to TW. TW was a flood of lore and information. They were introducing werewolf lore every episode, the Hunters from the start, and then new creature lore every second episodes or so. It was a lot of absorb. I prefer WP's method of keeping it lore-light and have the kids discover the boundary of their powers compared to that info being dumped on them by some "older and wiser werewolf". They can focus on finding out more about being a werewolf in S1, introduce the Hunters in S2, then focus on other creatures in S3.

[angelsblood13]

But why, how should the audience known, that Harlem is the lone typ Wolf, there are no scenes, that describes him as lonely, also the trust issues, where did you see it on the Show? Especially the sleeping around part is mostly the complete opposite what is shown of Loneliness, that works complete against this. Also if I don't trust people, than I would also not sleep with everybody, because I have to much fear, to less trust, that the person kill me, or will hurt me.

Yeah you can sleep around and be lonely, but if I want someone to look alone, that is how a Movie, TV Show, Book works, than I would not make him the same way so much flirty and sleep every night with someone other, or at least let him speak to himself or hear his thought, that is, was a bad decisions, I only wanted to fill my emptiness in my soul, for a few hours.