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Post by justinate on Feb 16, 2023 7:47:13 GMT -5
I'm torn about the portrayal of Harlan.
On the one hand, I appreciate that it's no longer taboo to show a gay guy enjoying an active sex life. (Although I could do without the fake nudity - you either hire an actor willing to do it, or if you truly feel the guy you've cast captures the character so perfectly, then write out his nudity.) Nor do I feel that one's enjoyment of casual sex must be predicated on some deep, dark trauma.
On the other hand, I don't like that it's basically the only aspect of Harlan's character that is explored in any depth. There really needs to be more to him than that. Obviously, giving him a twin sister and father who are part of the main cast is a major step up from Teen Wolf gays like Danny and Mason (who themselves weren't credited as main cast members). But for a character who was advertised as a "lead" we see next to nothing of his point of view. And that's why the lack of a boyfriend or even just a best friend hurts his story, because the sex scenes are the only airtime he doesn't have to share with one of the other main cast members, but because those are anonymous hookups, we don't get to hear Harlan's thoughts or feelings.
I'm reminded a bit of Kevin Keller in the Riverdale pilot, who was also portrayed cruising for sex - that was dropped from what was filmed, but they eventually revived that story in a later season. Another gay regular in a show by a gay showrunner who has almost no character development or POV despite being a main cast member.
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Post by mrfixit477 on Feb 16, 2023 12:03:38 GMT -5
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Post by mizuryuu on Feb 17, 2023 14:58:12 GMT -5
Another episode where Harlan's only plot is his sex life. The least they could do is make him have the worst control over the partial wolf transformation. Like him turning partial wolf at random times at school. Give some plot on uncontrollable powers, add some stakes to the pack getting found out, and give him something to do with the rest of the pack. Instead, like justinate said, Harlan just keep getting isolated scenes at the club.
Does anyone else find that the pace of the story to be way too slow? We have hit the midpoint of the season and we still have no hint to either the Alpha or the fire-starter. Usually, at this point, there would be some clues to both, and a few false leads. At this rate, they would need to either dump tons of lore in the final episodes or just reveal someone as the Big Bad with no build up.
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Post by mizuryuu on Feb 23, 2023 7:31:51 GMT -5
As the show keep pushing the romance between Harlan and Cyrus, the more I am convinced that Cyrus will end up being the person who started the fire. Everyone else's B-plot is related to the werewolf thing or the forest fire, except for Harlan's romance. The show's pace is too slow and there are too little episodes to waste on developing a regular romance that doesn't push the main plot. The easiest way to link it back it is a last minute reveal that Cyrus was the one who set the fire, and potentially the giant bad werewolf as well.
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Post by justinate on Feb 23, 2023 10:52:26 GMT -5
Well, I wouldn't be too surprised - it is perfect to increase Harlan's isolation (he won't let anyone in again) and it would fit Jeff Davis's M.O. to a tee: gays are either the sidekicks or the villains.
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Post by mrfixit477 on Feb 23, 2023 13:10:54 GMT -5
I don't think Cyrus is person who started the fire I think we will get a last minute twist.
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Post by mizuryuu on Feb 24, 2023 0:00:31 GMT -5
Yeah, the more I think about it, the more I don't think he is the fire starter, cause the fire marshals already suspect Cyrus due to his history. If the writer want Cyrus being the fire starter to be the big mystery reveal, they ruined it way too early. I am now suspecting Austin as the fire starter, since he is smart enough to make the drones and bombs, and he has a connection with Luna that can be useful for the drama of the big reveal. Cyrus can still be a werewolf though, if the guess that there are multiple werewolves are correct.
Did anyone else notice that random curly blond dude that Everett keep seeing? Why do I have a feeling that is the ghost of the fire marshal's son?
Also, this show is surprisingly pro-drugs. So we have high schooler drinking, smoking, taking weed and shrooms. At this point, I wouldn't be surprised if the kids start doing cocaine and meth next episode.
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Post by justinate on Feb 24, 2023 7:20:04 GMT -5
Also, this show is surprisingly pro-drugs. So we have high schooler drinking, smoking, taking weed and shrooms. At this point, I wouldn't be surprised if the kids start doing cocaine and meth next episode. I remember reading a few years ago a study that found smoking, drinking and "natural" drugs like weed were more prevalent in rural schools while the synthetic drugs were more common in urban schools. A family friend who's taught at both NYC and upstate New York said that pretty much squares with her experience. With little to do, the better-off kids (nobody really wealthy, but the poorer farming families can't even afford two meals a day) do spend their time doing that and she despaired of some of the bright ones ruining their futures because of it.
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Post by mrfixit477 on Feb 24, 2023 9:31:43 GMT -5
that random curly blond dude that Everett keep seeing maybe the fire marshal's son also a werewolf she said dead but she may be lying
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Post by dmagiclight on Feb 24, 2023 13:27:15 GMT -5
that was A plot twist I didn't see coming
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Post by Haru on Feb 27, 2023 18:22:09 GMT -5
meh Cyrus is too obvious to be an arsonist, also a mystery caller after the last episode also too obvious
but his father's plot is certainly important, mentioned too many times to ignore
I hope he comes back next season because I really like him
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Post by Haru on Feb 28, 2023 14:05:36 GMT -5
ep 6 promo
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Post by mizuryuu on Mar 2, 2023 7:10:21 GMT -5
Okay, watched ep 6 and I think I have everything sorted now. Below will be major spoiler if you haven't seen ep 6 yet.
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As expected, the blond kid is relevant. One, he prove that the pack can have life-like illusion that convey information. Two, the kid is the werewolf. So my current theory is the kid is SMG's "dead" son, who turned into a werewolf, so SMG hid that fact by claiming her son died in a fire. She is now trying to track him down to turn him back to human. That is why she is doing whatever she can to protect him. My guess for the mysterious caller is that there was never a caller, it was just another illusion that the pack was experiencing that was trying to give them information from the pack bond. I am not positive that Cyrus isn't the arsonist, and my best guess is Austin.
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Post by mrfixit477 on Mar 2, 2023 9:13:24 GMT -5
Okay, watched ep 6 and I think I have everything sorted now. Below will be major spoiler if you haven't seen ep 6 yet. ----- As expected, the blond kid is relevant. One, he prove that the pack can have life-like illusion that convey information. Two, the kid is the werewolf. So my current theory is the kid is SMG's "dead" son, who turned into a werewolf, so SMG hid that fact by claiming her son died in a fire. She is now trying to track him down to turn him back to human. That is why she is doing whatever she can to protect him. My guess for the mysterious caller is that there was never a caller, it was just another illusion that the pack was experiencing that was trying to give them information from the pack bond. I am not positive that Cyrus isn't the arsonist, and my best guess is Austin. I'm going with the guy from the hospital is the caller or set the fire to prove there are werewolf's. was the actor from the hospital on Teenwolf
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Post by mrfixit477 on Mar 4, 2023 12:00:51 GMT -5
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Post by Haru on Mar 17, 2023 13:16:04 GMT -5
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Post by justinate on Mar 18, 2023 6:10:25 GMT -5
What do people think are the series' chances of renewal?
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Post by dmagiclight on Mar 18, 2023 12:11:00 GMT -5
I think It will get At least A second season
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Post by angelsblood13 on Mar 19, 2023 7:00:33 GMT -5
What do people think are the series' chances of renewal? On Netflix I would say clearly no. On Paramount+, maybe. Because I think the show was not really good, especially the final episode looks unfinished it was a mess. But it had potential, like Teenwolf in the Past. I think they hoped it would get more viewers, Subscribers attached, they hope for something outstanding, a wonder, a new Wednesday, Elite..., maybe feeled also a bit betrayed that they trust Jeff Davis to much, give him to much power, thought he can write a success show. But what else have Paramount to offer? The x clone of 1893,Yellowstone or I-Carly, Halo, they have not really much content, brands, but are in a phase that they want rising, worldwide. I hear rumors they will put 1 billion in new content. So there are not really much other products to get an audience, I fear they had really not a real plan how to get a audience, how to get subscribers. Maybe they also waiting how successful it gets worldwide, the release date for Wolfpack and Teenwolf is for the EU on 20.4. Maybe because of dubbing. But really late, not simultaneously worldwide, like Prime or Netflix, would work. So maybe they wait till June to decide if it gives a second Teenwolf Movie or a second Season of Wolfpack. So it was no hit, but maybe cheap enough to produce with potential to gain more viewers, in the second round. But we know not the real figures, there are no Top10 released. I think it is crazy that for example Wednesday is in Germany allways in the Top10 since months, now mostly on the place 7 to 10 but it goes up an down, totally crazy. And I must out myself to, I watched Wednesday maybe 4 or 5 times till now. I loved the Adam's Family Show in the past, the black and white from the 60th. Sorry for the off topic.
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Post by justinate on Mar 19, 2023 7:30:25 GMT -5
I agree the show was a mess, with really poor storylining. Teen Wolf, for all its faults when it came to representation, was at least better in that respect during its early seasons. Here it's not clear they have a proper plan laid out. The delayed worldwide release is also a potential problem. Anyone who was excited about a TW 'clone' and/or SMG's return to TV will already have seen clips (maybe even watched bootlegs of the episodes) and made up their minds about the series by the time it makes its way to legitimate channels.
I did appreciate that the gay representation was much better (albeit still far from ideal) than Teen Wolf, but then again it was a really low bar to overcome. I just worry that blame for cancellation will be laid at the feet of the gay co-lead, rather than the underlying problems of the writing. I can see it now: TW was successful because they never had any queer main character, whereas the moment we did on Wolf Pack, it was the beginning of the end.
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Post by Haru on Mar 19, 2023 8:06:29 GMT -5
The series has potential and many questions to solve.
Let's be honest, special effects are cheap as hell and the cast are young unknown actors who don't take big checks
also the official accounts of the actors and the series are steadily growing on instagram
also harlan and cyrus growing on tiktok
So I'm positive about next season
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Post by mrfixit477 on Mar 20, 2023 4:09:44 GMT -5
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Post by dmagiclight on Mar 20, 2023 13:18:15 GMT -5
I thought the first season was Alright The LGBTQ Representation was better then Teen wolf ever was I will watch if it get A season 2 hopefully there be more character building
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Post by Haru on Mar 20, 2023 15:38:01 GMT -5
there's gonna be wolf pack panel this friday probably just the main cast only, I wish Zack Nelson (Cyrus) was there too but looking at how little he is mentioned on the show's official accounts I'm not getting my hopes up
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