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Post by justinate on Apr 21, 2020 12:25:51 GMT -5
Christian Antidormi plays Forrest in the same episode, who flirts with Alex. Not sure if he will be a new love interest for Alex since Michael chose Maria, because Christian is apparently a "non-recurring guest star".
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Post by shaunjohn401 on Apr 22, 2020 7:17:04 GMT -5
Christian Antidormi plays Forrest in the same episode, who flirts with Alex. Not sure if he will be a new love interest for Alex since Michael chose Maria, because Christian is apparently a "non-recurring guest star". He is Alex's love interest. Michael Vlamis (Michael) has said that Michael, Alex and Forrest will have a big scene in the season finale so he is around for awhile.
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Post by dmagiclight on Apr 22, 2020 12:34:23 GMT -5
Maybe he is there to make Micheal realize he true feels for Alex
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Post by sunshine0786 on Apr 23, 2020 16:06:04 GMT -5
I wanted to like Maria, and not judge her for getting in between Michael and Alex, because she had no knowledge of their history. After what she did, initiating the threesome, and then expecting Michael to stay with her afte , was a crap thing to do. If she was interested in trying something polyamorous I'd be less annoyed. But it seemed clear to me at the end, that wasn't what she wanted. Sure, Alex said he was fine with Maria being with Michael, but at the same time he looked uncomfortable witnessing it. Alex deserves something more from his friend.
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Post by LadyArmand on Apr 24, 2020 11:42:17 GMT -5
I don't like this whole Maria and Michael thing not because she's a woman, but because I think it's a pretty shitty thing to date someone who had been with someone you call your best friend. To me that's as off limits as going out with a sister's ex even if she said she was okay with it. It's messy and anytime Michael and Alex have a conversation or don't include her in something (because they have a complicated history that involves deep feels from both sides)she's going to get all up in her feelings. Why do that when she knows that no matter what he says to her face Alex still has very complicated feelings for Michael. And part of the reason Michael got with her is because he was running from his complicated feelings for Alex.
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Post by cheerios on Apr 30, 2020 1:12:58 GMT -5
When Maria and Michael first started being a thing, I honestly didn't mind them because I thought they had decent chemistry and had fun banter. Also I knew that Malex would rise again because of their popularity and that insane chemistry. Plus they were Carina's baby, she was gonna make sure they were seen. I knew we were gonna get a triangle because this is the CW and Carina did make mention of it early on.
But then with Maria and Michael the writing was just horrid. They had Maria and Michael become something quickly forced together in some sex romp, how she behaved once she found out about Alex, and now that vile threesome. Which was just her manipulating the situation as a test to make sure Michael would choose her. It's just all really tainted and toxic now. And to do that to Alex, especially after he had been emotionally and physically hurt, when he had always come through for them. Yeah that was beyond crossing the line.
So yeah now I'm just gonna skip over all that and focus only on the new relationship of Forrest and Alex or Forlex. I know Malex is going to rise again, since they are the biggest pairing and that apparently the most romantic scene that Carina wrote is for them. But honestly I'm really over the drama and I just want to see Alex separate himself and move on with his new fella.
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Post by mrfixit477 on Apr 30, 2020 5:35:25 GMT -5
When Maria and Michael first started being a thing, I honestly didn't mind them because I thought they had decent chemistry and had fun banter. Also I knew that Malex would rise again because of their popularity and that insane chemistry. Plus they were Carina's baby, she was gonna make sure they were seen. I knew we were gonna get a triangle because this is the CW and Carina did make mention of it early on. But then with Maria and Michael the writing was just horrid. They had Maria and Michael become something quickly forced together in some sex romp, how she behaved once she found out about Alex, and now that vile threesome. Which was just her manipulating the situation as a test to make sure Michael would choose her. It's just all really tainted and toxic now. And to do that to Alex, especially after he had been emotionally and physically hurt, when he had always come through for them. Yeah that was beyond crossing the line. So yeah now I'm just gonna skip over all that and focus only on the new relationship of Forrest and Alex or Forlex. I know Malex is going to rise again, since they are the biggest pairing and that apparently the most romantic scene that Carina wrote is for them. But honestly I'm really over the drama and I just want to see Alex separate himself and move on with his new fella. I'm waiting on the Green Eyed Michael when he sees Forrest and Alex and Maria will see it
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Post by cheerios on Apr 30, 2020 6:43:47 GMT -5
When Maria and Michael first started being a thing, I honestly didn't mind them because I thought they had decent chemistry and had fun banter. Also I knew that Malex would rise again because of their popularity and that insane chemistry. Plus they were Carina's baby, she was gonna make sure they were seen. I knew we were gonna get a triangle because this is the CW and Carina did make mention of it early on. But then with Maria and Michael the writing was just horrid. They had Maria and Michael become something quickly forced together in some sex romp, how she behaved once she found out about Alex, and now that vile threesome. Which was just her manipulating the situation as a test to make sure Michael would choose her. It's just all really tainted and toxic now. And to do that to Alex, especially after he had been emotionally and physically hurt, when he had always come through for them. Yeah that was beyond crossing the line. So yeah now I'm just gonna skip over all that and focus only on the new relationship of Forrest and Alex or Forlex. I know Malex is going to rise again, since they are the biggest pairing and that apparently the most romantic scene that Carina wrote is for them. But honestly I'm really over the drama and I just want to see Alex separate himself and move on with his new fella. I'm waiting on the Green Eyed Michael when he sees Forrest and Alex and Maria will see it Carina and her horrible cliche hack of bad writing will probably make sure there is tons of jealous Michael cause she's gotta have her drama. But I'm not sure how much drama will spill into the whole Maria and Michael thing. I mean it wouldn't be the CW if they weren't cramming a triangle down our throat. So I wonder if they will have Maria sees the jealous Michael over Forlex, but will they have her actually see it and realize that things aren't as rosy as she thought with keeping Michael as hers away from Alex? I do feel for the character in a way, she's being used horribly as an obstacle and villain of sorts. It's like they didn't know what to do with her because the first part of Maria in season one was better than this. But this lady is just horrible and I just think that's another one of Carina's wasted potential that she's just threw away for her stupid cliche drama.
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Post by LadyArmand on Apr 30, 2020 14:52:26 GMT -5
I think part of the issue is that the writers want to give fan service to those who remember and watched the original series. The problem with that is, the chemistry between Alex and Michael is way better and more organic. Nothing about their attraction is forced, nothing about it is contrived to manipulate the viewer. You see and feel their emotional connection and understand the angst between them because it comes from a real place. Michael has horrific abandonment issues (he's said that the only person he's never been able to push away is Max),and Alex was abused and also had to witness someone he loved being hurt because he loved him.
It's not that I don't like the character of Maria, I just think at this point she is being used (as I'm sure Forrest is going to be) as a plot device to get Alex and Michael back together at some point. It's actually a disservice to the character because season one Maria was far more interesting and engaging. It's also a disservice to Maria because being a plot device leaves little to no room for actual character development.
Another thing that bothers me (because plot holes) we go from a situation where Max asks Michael if it he and Izzy had messed with Alex's mind and was the reason that Alex went away and subsequently got hurt, would Michael be able to forgive him. To which Michael says no he wouldn't...to (in such a short time) Michael being so invested in and emotionally connected to Maria. Really?
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Post by cheerios on May 4, 2020 6:32:41 GMT -5
I do think that Malex are Carina's baby, she knows they are a huge hit, so I have no doubt that they will rise from the ashes of that horrible scene. Knowing the CW, it will be big and it will be massive. Because they live for couples like this, they feed of the epics and the cosmics. They are their bread and butter of the network.
She can see the huge connection and chemistry between them. How things just flow naturally and organic between them and it's just magic to watch Tyler and Vlamis on screen together. But she's all about the drama, she's thrives on the drama. I see her more like Eris, the goddess of chaos. Where she doesn't want smooth sailing, she wants to play around with them as if they were toys to do her bidding. Never truly giving them a moments peace because the drama is more important than the story or the characters.
So I do see her using Malex as a toy monkey to make the audience dance to her tune. She thinks that she can pull whatever she wants and people will stick around and put up with her behavior because she has Malex.
One of the things I hate about all this stupid triangle stuff. (It's the CW, of course there is a triangle) Is that Maria is nothing more than a plot point in the grand design of Malex's love story. She doesn't deserve that, to be something used and played with like that. It limits her so much, she's Michael's friend with benefits, she's the "villain" who destroy her longtime friendship over a guy, she's an obstacle to keep Malex apart. It feels more like she's apart of Michael's story, than she has her own. Sure they have started to give her stuff, the visions that come from her family being experimented on back in the day. Though I don't think Carina will do the any of the racism aspects of the story justice. Considering the whole horrid Noah event and how she uses Maria as a prop now for Malex. I wonder if they will have her descent into madness like her mother or she will learn to manage them better?
I just hope that Alex gets to have some happiness with Forrest, I know like Maria that Forrest is just a plot point. A guy for Alex to spend time with so he can figure some stuff out. But Alex has already been through so much stuff, that I just want him to be happy, even if it's for a short while. This is Alex, she's gonna make sure he suffers in tragic horrible ways. Also I want to see a happy MlM love story, even for a short while. I love Malex, but it's just trauma, pain, angst, tragedy, longing, and drama over and over. There is no happiness moments to take a break and breathe. I'm sick of MlM and WlW always having the struggle while MlF get to have smooth sailing. I want to see some clear sunny skies for Forlex, at least at the start.
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Post by cheerios on May 23, 2020 2:26:38 GMT -5
I do think that Michael is going to absolutely lose it over the loss of Alex. And since Alex won't be back to the show until ep 12, I think Michael will have to face some things he's been avoiding.
And that Alex and Michael will have a real, deep, honest conversation on where they stand. I still don't think they will end up together until season three at the earliest. Cause you got to have the cheap drama.
But if the show ends this season with Michael still with Maria after building Malex up and giving us a hint that Michael is gonna go feral at the loss of Alex. And denying the insane chemistry and popularity of that pairing. To use them as a freaking carrot to dangle in front of people, than what's the point? She really will be destroying her own show if she keeps dragging them out, while everyone else gets smooth sailing. And Michael and Maria are being wasted being with each other, cause whatever chemistry they had is gone and mostly what happens in their scenes is basically sexual and boring.
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Post by LadyArmand on May 23, 2020 15:04:17 GMT -5
What I'm hoping is that Maria sees how much Michael loses it and how far he's willing to go to get Alex back, that she realizes he'll never feel that way about her. While Michael cares about her, he'll never have that deep to the bone kind of love for her that he has for Alex.
The whole reason he's with Maria is because he's running from that feeling. Because he knows if he ever got that ship built and was able to go home he could leave Maria behind it would be hard but he could do it. Michael knows he couldn't leave Alex behind if they were really together.
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Post by mrfixit477 on May 24, 2020 8:49:36 GMT -5
Michael will try and get back with Alex but Alex has moved on with Forrest in end of 3 is when they both get back together or start to
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Post by sunshine0786 on May 24, 2020 9:53:29 GMT -5
Michael will try and get back with Alex but Alex has moved on with Forrest in end of 3 is when they both get back together or start to I think Alex and Forrest will be done by the end of this season. Luckily they filmed the whole season and wasn't cut short. Alex and Michael will be working their way back next season. I don't think Alex will be so easily convinced to trust Michael again. Michael will have to prove himself.
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Post by mrfixit477 on Jun 2, 2020 1:54:54 GMT -5
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Post by mrfixit477 on Jun 15, 2020 18:37:47 GMT -5
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Post by mrfixit477 on Jun 16, 2020 9:32:34 GMT -5
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Post by justinate on Jun 16, 2020 11:14:52 GMT -5
I found Michael's reason for not pursuing Alex "it's not our time" to be pure BS. It's like some very bad fanfic. Nobody says that in real life.
Shallow note: Alex has the hottest brothers.
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Post by dmagiclight on Jun 16, 2020 12:31:45 GMT -5
the conversation with Isabela gives me hope that Micheal really does love Alex and wants to be with him the song Alex sang was freaking amazing I like to have A copy of him singing it
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Post by justinate on Jun 16, 2020 13:18:26 GMT -5
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Post by sunshine0786 on Jun 16, 2020 23:39:52 GMT -5
I found Michael's reason for not pursuing Alex "it's not our time" to be pure BS. It's like some very bad fanfic. Nobody says that in real life. Shallow note: Alex has the hottest brothers. I think Michael saw Forrest and didn't want to blow up Alex's life again. Maria just broke up with him. While he understood it he was still willing to push his love for Alex down believing that loving Maria was enough for him. Until he understand why he keeps pushing Alex away and confronts that he isn't willing to mess with Alex's feelings. Sure the expression "it's not our time" is corny, but until Michael handles his issues, any attempt at a relationship with Alex will end painfully. ETA: I found a video with the scene of Alex singing. You can see around 2:03 Michael smiling, and then at 2:18 he turns and sees Forrest and his expression changes. That's when he realizes now is not the time. If you skip the bit with Liz, it cuts back to Michael nodding his head (2:47), and making the decision to leave while looking at Forrest. Also, I love how proud his brother looks. And I agree with your shallow note!
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Post by mrfixit477 on Jul 10, 2020 15:50:50 GMT -5
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Post by mrfixit477 on Jul 10, 2020 15:51:28 GMT -5
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Post by sunshine0786 on Jul 10, 2020 18:15:58 GMT -5
I hope this doesn't change the trajectory of Malex. (or if it does in a way for the better!)
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Post by LadyArmand on Jul 11, 2020 8:15:04 GMT -5
I hope this doesn't change the trajectory of Malex. (or if it does in a way for the better!) I'm thinking it's not which is why she's gone.
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