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Post by mrfixit477 on Feb 8, 2017 0:31:17 GMT -5
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Post by kevvoi on Feb 9, 2017 6:27:02 GMT -5
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Post by sunshine0786 on Feb 13, 2017 21:46:18 GMT -5
Slightly disappointed with the Malec tonight. At first I thought it was going well, but then Magnus and Alec just go off together to a room never to be seen for the rest of the episode? Comparing that to the one sex scene with Jace and the random Seely makes all the other relationship stuff the show gives us seem like a disingenuous attempt at equality.
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Post by Zathras on Feb 13, 2017 22:00:42 GMT -5
Yeah, I was hoping for a little more, too. Still, things are moving along between them, so that's something. Isabella's advice was good: don't overthink things. At any rate, their romance is a secondary plot, so I suppose it will never get as much screen time as I might like. I had to lol at Simon trying to take dating advice from Jace. At least Maia was understanding.
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Post by kevvoi on Feb 14, 2017 6:08:24 GMT -5
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Post by LadyArmand on Feb 14, 2017 16:38:59 GMT -5
As I recall from my daughters, in the books Malec are very much background characters, thus so is their relationship which is handled very much off the page. Most of what people know about Malec comes from the Bane Chronicles and thus not discussed much in the main series of Mortal Instrument books. The focus of the books and show is really the relationship between Clary and Jace. And let's face it while a bit disappointing, the show so far has been more hit than miss with the way they've handled the relationship between Malec. We also have to remember that this episode had a lot going on, and thus time might have been a consideration. I wouldn't be surprised to find out that there was a deleted scene or two between Malec, that was cut for time reasons and not content.
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Post by sunshine0786 on Feb 14, 2017 19:49:00 GMT -5
As I recall from my daughters, in the books Malec are very much background characters, thus so is their relationship which is handled very much off the page. Most of what people know about Malec comes from the Bane Chronicles and thus not discussed much in the main series of Mortal Instrument books. The focus of the books and show is really the relationship between Clary and Jace. And let's face it while a bit disappointing, the show so far has been more hit than miss with the way they've handled the relationship between Malec. We also have to remember that this episode had a lot going on, and thus time might have been a consideration. I wouldn't be surprised to find out that there was a deleted scene or two between Malec, that was cut for time reasons and not content. Agreed. In the books they were very much background characters, and I've been very pleased with how they've created the relationship on the show and made it more a focus. I would have had no issue with the whole episode, except the whole Jace/Seely bit. There was so much going on in the episode, and they did a lot of good with Malec, but they made time for Jace to be in bed with a girl who really was of no consequence whatsover and not for Magnus and Alec. Maybe it's a nitpicky issue, but it bothered me.
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Post by kevvoi on Feb 14, 2017 20:00:11 GMT -5
I don't know if these are spoilerish or not, but Matthew does live chats to twitter from the set - Ahsan posted the one from today:
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Post by daleeryohm on Feb 14, 2017 21:13:00 GMT -5
Jace in bed with the seelie was clearly meant to excuse what's going to be Clary and Simon going from friends to a couple. Clary eyeing his abs and Maia realizing he was in love with his best friend were also total cues.
And I know I'm in the minority, but they've been telegraphing what limits there will be on Malec compared to the het scenes the entire time. I know no one was really expecting shirtless spooning in bed. They're not going to make them do that. Look at how awkward that couch kissing was this episode. Their bodies weren't touching at all, and Harry wasn't even moving his lips. All they do is hit their blocking in these scenes. It's honestly cringey as hell, and meant to be just enough for them to get away with. I catch all of this on a single passing watch of the episode. So it boggles me that people have these questions when it seems so obvious. They kicked up the pace and action of the A story too, right after Alec pushed Magnus back out of frame, in what I'm sure was a try to distract away from where they were leaving off with those 2.
But people will make demands and the show will have to keep meeting them, so we'll see. I do predict a ton of angst coming their way to hold all of that off though for awhile. Couples can never be happy for long.
And for a show that so drastically improved its effects and visuals in this season, what they chose to come up with for angels is repulsive.
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Post by daleeryohm on Feb 21, 2017 0:56:44 GMT -5
God, Emeraude is just so beautiful. It's crazy how gorgeous she is. I am so gay, but I really almost feel like I could go there! Also, I ship the hell out of her and Raphael now. They DID THAT. 0 to ship in just a couple scenes.
And yeah, I pretty much called every last thing they were going to do, including angst coming up for Malec in the next ep, but this isn't an 'I told yall so'. It all should have been obvious to everybody if you've been watching television your whole life or know how storytelling works.
But that's also what I mean. In the way Izzy and Raphael were almost instantly believable in how they connected tonight, and even with Clary and Simon as they've been friends their whole lives... I know Alec and Magnus have had some heart-to-hearts, but they just don't work to me. I just don't feel like there's this great love there. I swear, it just seems like because Alec is gay and Magnus is bi, that they happened. But where's the attraction? Where's the real relationship? What am I supposed to believe that they see in one another on that level? They really only barely know each other. Bah. Maybe a lot of it has to do with how stiff their interactions feel most of the time, even after they've had sex now. And Matthew, as delicious he is, isn't the strongest actor. And maybe because Magnus is so flamboyant and so much older, it feels like he'd more naturally fit a mentor role rather than a love interest. I don't want to just hear Magnus say that he's rarely felt this way before with anyone, I want to believe it. I want to see Alec be so in love it changes him to where he comes out of shell for real, and I'm not just hearing Jace say that Alec feels happier to him.
I know I'm not crazy.
I can't bring myself to ship something anymore just because it's gay, or because it's from a book series I loved. I didn't read the Mortal Instruments series.
Quality gay representation and portrayals are just too few and far between.
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Post by LadyArmand on Feb 21, 2017 12:38:18 GMT -5
But that's also what I mean. In the way Izzy and Raphael were almost instantly believable in how they connected tonight, and even with Clary and Simon as they've been friends their whole lives... I know Alec and Magnus have had some heart-to-hearts, but they just don't work to me. I just don't feel like there's this great love there. I swear, it just seems like because Alec is gay and Magnus is bi, that they happened. But where's the attraction? Where's the real relationship? What am I supposed to believe that they see in one another on that level? They really only barely know each other. Bah. Maybe a lot of it has to do with how stiff their interactions feel most of the time, even after they've had sex now. And Matthew, as delicious he is, isn't the strongest actor. And maybe because Magnus is so flamboyant and so much older, it feels like he'd more naturally fit a mentor role rather than a love interest. I don't want to just hear Magnus say that he's rarely felt this way before with anyone, I want to believe it. I want to see Alec be so in love it changes him to where he comes out of shell for real, and I'm not just hearing Jace say that Alec feels happier to him. I know I'm not crazy. I can't bring myself to ship something anymore just because it's gay, or because it's from a book series I loved. I didn't read the Mortal Instruments series. Quality gay representation and portrayals are just too few and far between. I completely disagree with every thing you've said. Izzy and Raphael... I find nothing and I do mean nothing shippable about a drug addict and an enabler. Izzy is using Raphael to get what she needs to support her habit and she's using her blood and his need for blood to get what she needs from him. That has dysfunction, destruction and danger written all over it. There is nothing about that relationship or whatever it is or might turn into that I support. In that it's starting from a place of manipulation and addiction. Simon and Clary... There is nothing natural about the progression of this relationship. In that Clary is clearly using Simon as a rebound. She can't have who she really wants which is Jace, so why not settle for Simon. She's also clinging to him because he's safe, familiar and stable in the wake of her mother's death. All of this sudden interest in Simon was caused by him showing interest in someone else. She may not be doing it on a conscious level, which makes it worse because that means Simon is going to be all the more devastated when it crashes and burns. Clary's feeling for Jace are: Clary's feeling for Simon: Malec... To me they are a breath of fresh air (not perfect by any means). In that they (don't so far) follow the typical trope when it comes to the depiction of gay relationships on television. The relationship is not verbally, physically or mentally abusive (Brendan/Ste, John Paul/Ste, Lucas/Menno, Aaron/Robert). Neither was historically straight in that they were characters who were never shown showing the slightest interest in the same gender (Christian, Robert) and then for the sake of plot all of a sudden they are attracted to men or in the case of Christian one man. Neither of them have had to be redeemed in order to make the couple more shippable (Robert, Brendan). They didn't kiss once and automatically become a super couple living together in bliss and harmony until forced drama comes along and they have to deal with it. Instead they are two people who even after having sex are still getting to know each other. They actually talk to one another and not at one another. They are still actively trying to establish themselves as a couple not only to themselves but those around them. Alec has been portrayed as someone who has all of his life suppressed his emotions, and not just about his sexuality but in general. Because Jace has been the wild card, Alec has taken on the role of someone who has to think things through, who has to be the resop0nsible one because as Izzy said in season one "heavy is the head...". More has been put on and expected of Alec and it weighs heavily on him. He takes everything on himself. His misguided wedding was a way to for him to repair his families name after learning his parents were part of the Circle. The guilt he's carrying over not being able to protect Jace from Valentine, his guilt over his body being used to kill Clary's mother. Signify to me at least how connected his is to others and just how much is pulls himself back from others. Jace and Clary at the Romeo and Juliet of this show, their is a story of star crossed lovers who long for each other and are being kept from each other by a situation that is eating away at both of them. Jace handles it by being a player. Clary by clinging to Simon. Malec in the books from what my daughters tell me were very much background characters, and thus as I've stated before their relationship (until the Bane Chronicles) was handled very much off the page. Thus giving the show a lot of room to explore the beginnings of the relationship and how it develops into a deep and abiding love. From my understanding it was never meant to burn as brightly as Jace and Clary. It is also my understanding that it is however more sustainable and deeply rooted. Also the friction we see on the horizon seems to be situational rather than relationship wise. In that someone is threatening to destroy the down world of which Mangus is a part and leader in. I think the friction is going to come in the form the the choices Magnus makes to help protect the down world. I think the friction is going to be about him keeping certain things from Alec in order to save the down world and thus himself. Again different from cheating or being jealous. We may very well get to cheating and jealousy because of Magnus' past. But the relationship also has an inherent form of tension in that Magnus is immortal and Alec is not. Which I think is far more interesting to me and I hope the show explores that part of the relationship. Not now but they are still coming together but sometime in the future. But everything is not for every one...and that's only the view from my particular bridge.
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Post by daleeryohm on Feb 21, 2017 14:26:57 GMT -5
Aldertree tricked Izzy into becoming an addict though. She thought it was curing her slow healing stab wound, as it was inhibiting her ability as a Shadowhunter. Context is everything in this situation. And Raphael doesn't even know the circumstances of how she ended up like she did, and even looked past their strained history to try and help her. I saw nothing wrong with what happened between them, and I have full faith she'll 'sweat it out' as he instructed her to do.
And sorry, but you're reaching with saying Clary doesn't have genuine feelings for Simon now. She grew up with him as her closest friend, and it's completely realistic not see someone that's as close as family a different way until a) they get hot, and b) they confess they have romantic feelings for you. You make too many assumptions about Clary's psyche. She had already reached the acceptance stage of her mother's death after trying to have her resurrected. And she wasn't even taking it out on Alec, as he so feared. And her wanting Simon didnt even have anything to do with Jace either. She simply found herself genuinely reciprocating and embraced it, and it's brought her happiness after everything else unbearable that's happened. It's been established that Clary's too pure of heart to be doing something like 'using' Simon.
And say what you will about Malec, but I made my points.
And yes, everyone's entitled to their opinions.
I will leave the reminder though, that I've been totally accurate in all my predictions. There are biased opinions, and then there's just insight.
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Post by LadyArmand on Feb 21, 2017 16:00:50 GMT -5
I didn't say that Clary doesn't have feelings for Simon. What I said was that she's rebounding from Jace and using Simon. I also stated (perhaps you glanced over that part) that she may not be aware that she'd doing it. Had Jace not been revealed to be her "brother" Clary wouldn't have given Simon the time of day in a romantic sense. Clary's so called "feelings" for Simon have not developed organically. I believe they are the pure result of not being able to have what she wants (Jace)her grief over her mother's death and feeling threatened that Simon (her rock and go to guy) dared to bond with another girl. And where (other than in your head) has it been established that Clary wouldn't use Simon? This is the same girl who was so selfish that she made the decision that had her friend turn into a vampire.
As for making assumptions, you make a huge one by asserting as "fact" that Clary has accepted her mothers death. Another unfounded assumption to justify a relationship that has rebound written all over it. Clary hasn't had any real time to process her mother's death. Her mother dies, she tried to resurrect her, she almost gets impregnated by a demon, finds out she can create runes no one had ever seen. then she goes off to meet the Iron Sisters, learns Luke has a sister, then goes off to find an angel that's communicating with her and sending her runes. In between all of this she's freaking out because Jace wont talk to her. So when has there been time for her to accept, embrace and move on from her mother's death?
Also while Raphael told her to sweat it out, also I say Izzy cut herself to expose her blood to him, knowing he probably wouldn't be able to stop himself from feeding on her. That is simply wrong and completely what an addict would do. And while Aldertree did trick her into taking it, she found out rather quickly what it was and what it was capable of and has done nothing to get clean. Magnus even told her that one of his friends nearly died because of it. Instead she goes looking for a drug dealer, lies to Magnus, almost gets killed by a pack of vampires and uses Raphael as her personal drug source. Yeah, nothing wrong there. All good and healthy interactions. He may be coming from a place of wanting to help her, but she is using him to get her fix. He knows this, which makes him an enabler.
Yes there are biased opinions (assumptions and wild speculation), and there is insight. And if you had displayed insight rather that arrogant condensation that would be different. Its not insightful to predict what is television writing 101. It is however, condescending to then pronounce to the world in a shady way "I told you so."
There have been several people in the past in various threads who have done this same thing. And I'm often left wondering if y'all get a cookie for the inventive (and not so inventive) ways you say it.
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Post by jos87 on Feb 21, 2017 16:13:50 GMT -5
I didn't say that Clary doesn't have feelings for Simon. What I said was that she's rebounding from Jace and using Simon. I also stated (perhaps you glanced over that part) that she may not be aware that she'd doing it. Had Jace not been revealed to be her "brother" Clary wouldn't have given Simon the time of day in a romantic sense. Clary's so called "feelings" for Simon have not developed organically. I believe they are the pure result of not being able to have what she wants (Jace)her grief over her mother's death and feeling threatened that Simon (her rock and go to guy) dared to bond with another girl. And where (other than in your head) has it been established that Clary wouldn't use Simon? This is the same girl who was so selfish that she made the decision that had her friend turn into a vampire. As for making assumptions, you make a huge one by asserting as "fact" that Clary has accepted her mothers death. Another unfounded assumption to justify a relationship that has rebound written all over it. Clary hasn't had any real time to process her mother's death. Her mother dies, she tried to resurrect her, she almost gets impregnated by a demon, finds out she can create runes no one had ever seen. then she goes off to meet the Iron Sisters, learns Luke has a sister, then goes off to find an angel that's communicating with her and sending her runes. In between all of this she's freaking out because Jace wont talk to her. So when has there been time for her to accept, embrace and move on from her mother's death? Also while Raphael told her to sweat it out, also I say Izzy cut herself to expose her blood to him, knowing he probably wouldn't be able to stop himself from feeding on her. That is simply wrong and completely what an addict would do. And while Aldertree did trick her into taking it, she found out rather quickly what it was and what it was capable of and has done nothing to get clean. Magnus even told her that one of his friends nearly died because of it. Instead she goes looking for a drug dealer, lies to Magnus, almost gets killed by a pack of vampires and uses Raphael as her personal drug source. Yeah, nothing wrong there. All good and healthy interactions. He may be coming from a place of wanting to help her, but she is using him to get her fix. He knows this, which makes him an enabler. Yes there are biased opinions (assumptions and wild speculation), and there is insight. And if you had displayed insight rather that arrogant condensation that would be different. Its not insightful to predict what is television writing 101. It is however, condescending to then pronounce to the world in a shady way "I told you so." There have been several people in the past in various threads who have done this same thing. And I'm often left wondering if y'all get a cookie for the inventive (and not so inventive) ways you say it. It's centuries since the last time I wrote on this forum. Don't want to write a lot tbh cause forum life is stressing and don't miss it too much but had to just to say to LadyArmand that I totally agree with you. In everything you said. And about Malec I love them(and Matthew&Harry's acting) and your analysis of the relationship is one which totally reflect my opinion. After a lot of time where I had not great interests in other dynamics on TV shows, malec made me feel again excited. Could be better? Sure. Everything can be better,especially when it comes to representation. But they are, as you said, a breath of fresh air. OK. Had just to say that. I was hesitant to write something but then changed my mind. Thanks for your posts.
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Post by HQ75 on Feb 21, 2017 17:02:29 GMT -5
The Clary we've seen on the TV show is in no way "pure of heart". She's completely selfish and will use whomever she needs to get what she wants. That is who we've been shown on the show. I can't speak to the books nor do I care what happened in the books. Clary has been reckless, self absorbed and has not cared one bit who's life she set on fire to get what she wanted. The people around here who have done everything they could and broken all kinds of rules to help her are paying the cost for Clary not caring about anyone else but her own motives. Clary is not in love with Simon and she doesn't desire him, not the way he did her. She just liked having him around, devoted to her, willing to do anything for her 24/7 and now he isn't that person anymore she doesn't want to lose her big bowl of ice cream.
If I were Magnus I would get the hell out of dodge and let them all self destruct.
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Post by LadyArmand on Feb 21, 2017 17:34:28 GMT -5
HQ75 As long as Magnus takes Alec with him I'm all about him saying I'm too old for this mess and taking the next portal Venice.
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Post by Zathras on Feb 21, 2017 22:04:23 GMT -5
And yeah, I pretty much called every last thing they were going to do, including angst coming up for Malec in the next ep, but this isn't an 'I told yall so'. It all should have been obvious to everybody if you've been watching television your whole life or know how storytelling works. Uh .... this is exactly an "I told you so"... I will leave the reminder though, that I've been totally accurate in all my predictions. There are biased opinions, and then there's just insight. ... and so is this. Don't confuse your opinions with "insight". It's okay to have an opinion; it's not okay to act like only your opinion is valid. That rudeness is not welcome here.
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Post by Zathras on Feb 21, 2017 22:26:48 GMT -5
On topic...
Well, that was a bizarre party until Magnus figured it out. I kept thinking about that disguise rune Jace used with Simon; I guess I wasn't too far off. Alec starting to fall off the roof was quite the fake-out. Clary doesn't blame Alec for her mother's death, but Alec blames himself. It feels like a theme that will continue (at least for a while).
I'm content with the progress of Alec and Magnus' relationship. I didn't see them falling straight into deep love (which would have been unrealistic). They're definitely interested in each other but are still feeling things out. I'm okay if the relationship develops on its own pace. As long as it's not too slow (or too fast).
I don't like the dynamic between Izzy and Raphael at all. It comes across as too creepy to me. I actually wouldn't mind them having a relationship if there wasn't this drug dynamic going on.
I'm undecided about Simon and Clary at this point. I like that Simon finally confessed how he feels; that was long overdue. I'm not sure how I feel about her jealousy (up to last week). She hadn't shown any real romantic interest in Simon before now. I suppose it's possible that she only realized how she felt when Simon wasn't hanging around her, but that seems too easy. The rebound angle may be more reasonable. Either way, I'm curious to see where it goes in the future.
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Post by daleeryohm on Feb 21, 2017 22:47:39 GMT -5
Yes, I'm a rude vicious monster and I seriously disrespected everyone Yall enjoy your forum.
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Post by kevvoi on Feb 22, 2017 20:32:45 GMT -5
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Post by LadyArmand on Feb 28, 2017 11:51:59 GMT -5
Raphael and Izzy...
I'm sorry (not) I simply cannot get behind a ship that is starting from a place of manipulation and addiction. They are literally and figuratively feeding off of each other to get high. Her spouting off that her bother didn't notice anything was wrong just made me sick because she's been hiding it and lying to everyone. And when he did aks her was she okay a couple of episodes ago she lied to him and said that Aldertree had her working on a case and that she was tired. So what she expected her brother to read her mind? And of course Raphael saved her life, because she was stupid enough to go into vampire territory alone looking for a fix.
Simon and Clary...
I personally don't like Clary one single bit. I think she is very much like her mother a manipulative user who thinks she always knows best and will use people up and discard them when she doesn't need them anymore. In the previous episode Iris tells her it's time to pay up on that blood oath she made. So of course her first thought is to go have sex with Simon in a canoe. And Simon is no better. In that he thinks he can protect her from Circle member because of course when they come for Clary they are 1. going to fight in the shed or 2. wait until dark so it's a fair fight. And of course he gets his ass kidnapped yet again.
Alec and Jace...
For people who are supposed to be so close to each other they can feel when the other is happy, they really don't spend that much time together or talk to one another. I'm sorry but Jace was there shortly after his brother nearly jumped off a building. He knows from just after Jocelyn died that Alec feels guilty about not being able to stop him from being taken by Valentine or save him from having to go the City of Bones and that he feels hella guilty because he was used to kill Jocelyn. Yey not one moment is taken to ask Alec if he's alright.
Maybe that's because he expects Alec to be alright. But come on....
Alex and Magnus...
While the scene on the balcony was short (and as usual interrupted by something Jace and or Clary related) and I wanted a little more. I am glad that Alec's suicide attempt was addressed by Magnus. Something tells me that Alec's feelings of guilt (and not being good enough or strong enough) is something that is going to be a theme for him and thus the relationship. I like that Magnus pointed out in a gentle but straight forward way that it wasn't just the magic as Alec tried to allude to. That the feelings were already there and the magic merely allowed them to come through uninhibited. I also like that he's not forcing Alec to confront it before he's ready to, but letting Alec know he will always be there when the time comes or when it gets too much for Alec to deal with alone. I think this is important because even with as close to Jace as he is, something Izzy said, I think it was last season about Alec not talking to her about what's going on with him is telling when it comes to Alec's personality. I think he feels he has to be strong for everyone else and has to be there for everyone else, that he doesn't think about himself or what he needs or that he's worth someone caring about or sacrificing for him in the same way.
As for the friction between them in this episode I was wrong, I thought it was going to come from what Magnus was going to try and do to save the Down World and thus himself. But it came from Alec feeling that Magnus was holding out on him when it came to Izzy.
Can I just say as an aside I love the way Magnus calls him Alexander. It's Magnus' pet name for him, which is so sexy and full of emotion because no one else uses Alec's full name. I think it is so sweet that Maguus uses Alec's full name as an endearment.
Alec and Aldertree....
That final interaction between them was everything... and I do mean everything. I love snarky, protective, righteous, confident, Alec. I was living for that moment when he patted Aldertree on the shoulder, smiled and winked at him like, "see there, that's your place, now stay in it." It was the first time we've seen anyone get the upper hand on Aldertree and I'm so glad it was Alec.
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Post by Zathras on Feb 28, 2017 22:02:32 GMT -5
I get the feeling that Izzy & Raphael could be good together, but that scene at Raphael's place was too creepy. Their relationship is really unhealthy for both of them. Of course neither of them is listening to the warnings they're getting, so I expect it to continue. I wonder which of them will back out first. Jace was right that finding Madsie (sp?) was too easy. Yet when he got back to the van he let his guard down. I kind of like Simon & Clary. Actually, I like Simon and I'm glad that he's happy (for now). I'm not sure how long their relationship will last. I'm betting Simon will survive Valentine, one way or another. I just hope he doesn't get hurt too much. I, too, was glad that Alec was able to confront Aldertree like that. Aldertree seems to have a hidden agenda, but I still haven't been able to figure out what that is. As for Alec & Magnus, I do like that we get some development in the middle of the action, though of course I, too, would like more. Alec puts a lot of pressure on himself. I'd really like to see him open up to Magnus about that.
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Post by sunshine0786 on Feb 28, 2017 23:19:28 GMT -5
I'm not a fan of Raphael and Izzy with either. It just two addicts just using each other to get their fixes. Plus I ship Izzy with someone else which will hopefully happen sometime in the future, but they've deviated from the books so much so who knows. And Izzy is an addict, of course she's going to make excuses and not take responsibility. Blaming Alec is part of that. As for Simon and Clary, I'm never going to get behind that. Oddly, depsite enjoying the books and her being the main character, she was definitely not my favorite. She was also younger though, so I don't think she came off as annoying (to me) as she does in the show.
The whole Jace and Alec thing has also been strange. They don't seem as close as I remember them being in the books. That may be the case of a show with many characters and not doing the best job at developing all the relationships. And it could be that they are working on developing the Magnus and Alec relationship more so they're spending less time on Jace and Alec, which I won't complain about!
And totally agree with you about that interaction with Aldertree! He is really pissing me off. I don't know what his deal is and what his ultimate goal is, but I'm glad Alex put him in his place.
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Post by mrfixit477 on Mar 6, 2017 23:00:39 GMT -5
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Post by Zathras on Mar 7, 2017 0:14:08 GMT -5
Hey, we got an “I love you.” I didn’t expect that. For better or worse we mostly seem to get these little insights into their relationship. It would be nice to get a little more on-screen, but this was a nice moment. At last Valentine’s deception was (mostly?) revealed. I figured Jace was not actually his son. But of course Valentine manipulated Jace from the beginning. His goal was to get Jace to activate the Soul Sword. I have a feeling he has more tricks up his sleeve. But of course they lost the Soul Sword again. Jeez. And Valentine slit Simon’s throat. That was pretty gruesome. I wasn’t really concerned for his life, but that had to hurt. But now Simon can walk in daylight. I wonder why that is, but I’m sure it will open up some new opportunities for him in the future. Now we have to wait 3 months for the next episode.
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