Oliver & Christian, 15.04.08, video and caps

[Bonobochick]

Just getting it ready for the wonderful Ivan & Nanna.

[ivaniv]

The clip

de.youtube.com/watch?v=z75Wnfo1IWs

The caps

[tihkon2]

Thank you very much Ivan....

Poor Christian...he tried to out himself. It's not his fault Gregor didn't take him seriously! ;D

[lolaruns]

Oh, those Mann brothers, LOL

And the dialog, it burns, it burns ;D "Geht dir die Düse durch?" Bwahhahahahahaahahahahahaha.

[ivaniv]

HQ file: www.sendspace.com/file/3lxkln

I don't know what to make of it. Gregor saw that Christian was upset, it was like he did not want to accept that. But maybe I am reading too much into it

[tihkon2]

I don't know what to make of it. Gregor saw that Christian was upset, it was like he did not want to accept that. But maybe I am reading too much into it

Ivan...

I'm getting more the feeling that Gregor is just sort of oblivious. I think for Gregor, it's so far out of the realm of possiblity for Christian to like men, that the information probably gets processed as if it were a joke.

At least that's my take on it!

[Difficult Diva]

That's my take as well, Tihkon.

Thanks, Ivan for the fast upload.

[kyle]

without the benefit of the translation, Gregor, pretty much blew him off about being gay.

[amber80]

Apr 15, 2008 13:03:48 GMT -5 tihkon2 said:

I don't know what to make of it. Gregor saw that Christian was upset, it was like he did not want to accept that. But maybe I am reading too much into it

Ivan...

I'm getting more the feeling that Gregor is just sort of oblivious. I think for Gregor, it's so far out of the realm of possiblity for Christian to like men, that the information probably gets processed as if it were a joke.

At least that's my take on it!

Mine as well... I really think Gregor thought Christian was just joking; just because he would never consider Christian being into guys. I think it never even crossed his mind that he was serieus...

And Ivan: Thanks so much for the clip! I was not able to watch live today, so it's really great to know that when you get home the clip will be there to watch!

[lolaruns]

And Christian really freaked when Gregor joked that if he kept hitting like that he would have to start calling him "warm brother" instead of "brother" (Warmer Bruder is a slang expression for a gay men, usually in an effeminate kind of way).

It's so frikking unfair that they are probably not going to be in the next episode. Because that scene just screamed for a continuation where we get to see Olli give Christian some TLC.

[thagazboi]

Great episode. Thanks as always to everyone involved.

[lolaruns]

Poor Nanna, here she was hoping this one wouldn't have as much dialog.

[nanna]

Apr 15, 2008 16:27:05 GMT -5 lolaruns said:

Poor Nanna, here she was hoping this one wouldn't have as much dialog.

Well, it was less than yesterday. But I said I wanted them to kiss a lot and they didn't. No a single one.

At first I was disappointed, but after the subtitling where you take a closer look at things, I realized, it was an important episode. These things need to be adressed. And I liked that the whole coming-out issue focused more on Christian's feelings and less on the reactions of the people around him.

Upset Christian is very cute Christian! He may have a short fuse but when he's calmed down again, he's able to admit to his mistakes very honestly.

The video's uploading and I'd like to thank GayTime and especially Tihkon for their help.

[maxwellcherry]

Yay! Thankyou so much! Can't wait.

[lolaruns]

Yes, no kisses, but I still liked it a lot. Christian was a bit too rough for me in most of yesterday's episode, I didn't really feel the chemistry, no matter how much they were kissing. I was worried that maybe the honeymoon was over and Christian/Thore had kicked into "Christian is annoyed with Coco" gear. So it was great to see that the sweetness and the romance was back full force in this episode.

Thank you so much for all your hard work!

[tihkon2]

Lola
See, I found Christian to be more exasperated than annoyed. ;D

He's like:

"OMG! Don't say I have a nice body in front of Gregor! We talked about this. I'm scared of him finding out!"

"No, we can't have sex, the door is unlocked. I said NO!, Ach...Oh jeezus...damn....ok..."

"Stop touching me in front of Gregor! Man, we've TALKED about this!"

"sigh..."

And yes there was some physical roughness, but I found that refreshing in a "just boys" kind of way. Especially when Olli smacks C. in the chest when they're about to head out to Gregor's car, and C. smacks him back and points that " Bitch, I'm going to get you" finger at Olli!

Just another perspective...

[lolaruns]

Yeah, it's probably a boy thing. I just tend to see Christian. Is. Pushing. Him. Around.

Plus, I felt sorry for poor Olli who was just getting hot and bothered with both of them shirtless and that he had to run and scramble to get his clothes together.

[atticlibrarian]

Apr 15, 2008 17:09:58 GMT -5 tihkon2 said:

Especially when Olli smacks C. in the chest when they're about to head out to Gregor's car, and C. smacks him back and points that " Bitch, I'm going to get you" finger at Olli!

This moment just gets me for some reason. The look on Christian's face is just too funny...and adorable. He's trying to be all serious and Olli's just laughing at him.

[nanna]

The subtitled version is up on YouTube



Thank you Ivan for the great video!

[tihkon2]

He's trying to be all serious and Olli's just laughing at him.

geministargrl16 , exactly. ;D

ETA: Thanks Nanna!!!!!!!

[aldebaran]

Just two feelings about this episode:
- proud of Christian, who had the guts to come out to his brother
- disappointed by Gregor, who didn't believe his brother, and it was clear that he wasn't joking at all!

And now we all have to wait as many as 10 days to see them again. OMG!!!

As usual, thanks Ivan for the video and Nanna for the subtitled version!

I adore Olli's behaviour, always calm, sweet and understanding no matter what Chris says or does. He must have been a Zen Master in his previous life!!! ;D

[apollux]

Thanks for the subtitled version, I really needed it this time!!

That comment about Gregor's failed marriage was a little out of place, don't you think?

[nanna]

The subtitled HQ: www.sendspace.com/file/dgf9n4

[amber80]

Thanks Nanna (and everyone who helped her ) for the subtitles!

I really needed them this time to really understand it.

PS. And LOL at Christian pouring coffee in the sugarbowl and not noticing that. ;D

[psionycx]

Apr 15, 2008 18:24:47 GMT -5 apollux said:

That comment about Gregor's failed marriage was a little out of place, don't you think?

No, I think Christian hit the nail on the head without even realizing it. Poor Gregor really was happy to be married to Sarah and he was adorably excited at having a baby on the way. All of that got crushed and I think that Gregor is hurting a lot worse inside than he lets on. That's why he abruptly left to get changed when Christian said that.

It's also why he's so oblivious lately. He's wounded and he's just looking for escapism, which is why he's almost desperately chasing women and looking for a good time. The humor is hiding his real feelings.

Of course, this might have gone easier for Christian if he had opted to pass on discussing his sexual orientation and focused on the matter at hand: that's he's specifically with Olli. It would probably be easier to have that conversation than a broader one. I still say that he's bi, not gay. Don't know why it's so hard to grasp since since Olli's bi too. But they could spend more dialog than Nanna would want to translate ( ) trying to sort all that out.

It was really cute the way Christian told Judith that he's rather tell the whole world how happy he is with Olli! That was so sweet. Although poor oblivious Gregor bemoaning the Mann brothers' "sexless phase" was funny considering how much sex Christian's apparently had the last few days!

Maybe that's the way he should have put it: "No Gregor, I'm too spent. Olli wants it every time I'm in the same room with him and he's like a mechanical bull, there's just no wearing him out."

Thanks to our wonderful video-capturing and translating angels for another great installment of the story!