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Post by kevvoi on Oct 2, 2015 6:52:53 GMT -5
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Post by Gary N on Dec 14, 2015 5:12:34 GMT -5
Saw that coming. LOL
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Haru
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Post by Haru on May 12, 2016 17:54:09 GMT -5
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Post by overtherainbow on May 13, 2016 1:27:48 GMT -5
Sad but not surprised that this got cancelled The show has been awful for a while now, and Will is the most miserable character I have ever seen on tv. He marries his beard, then outs himself only to get gay bashed. It's like the show was determined to portray gays as being sad and depressed all the time. So to summarize we lose one gay character on Nashville and gain one on Riverdale, net gain is then zero. This tv season doesn't look much better than last, sadly. And it probably won't get better because if a tv show decides to introduce a new LGBT character during the season it will be a lesbian character 9 out of 10 times.
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angel
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Post by angel on May 13, 2016 3:48:01 GMT -5
So to summarize we lose one gay character on Nashville and gain one on Riverdale, net gain is then zero. This tv season doesn't look much better than last, sadly. And it probably won't get better because if a tv show decides to introduce a new LGBT character during the season it will be a lesbian character 9 out of 10 times. I think with 9 out of 10 its a lesbian, its a little to overdone and to much fight lesbian versus gay, instead of stand together. Also 5 or more TV lesbians died this season too, so its is a much bigger problem, a much bigger progess. In general we walk 20-30 years back, with representation of LGTB+ people on TV, and unfortunately not in only 1 country, its a world wide phenomenon. Mostly we have no LGTB+ characters on TV nowadays, and when, then their are token ones, asexual, sidekicks, supporting roles, or stand nice in the background. And the exception confirms rather the rule.
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Post by overtherainbow on May 13, 2016 10:40:31 GMT -5
So to summarize we lose one gay character on Nashville and gain one on Riverdale, net gain is then zero. This tv season doesn't look much better than last, sadly. And it probably won't get better because if a tv show decides to introduce a new LGBT character during the season it will be a lesbian character 9 out of 10 times. I think with 9 out of 10 its a lesbian, its a little to overdone and to much fight lesbian versus gay, instead of stand together. Also 5 or more TV lesbians died this season too, so its is a much bigger problem, a much bigger progess. In general we walk 20-30 years back, with representation of LGTB+ people on TV, and unfortunately not in only 1 country, its a world wide phenomenon. Mostly we have no LGTB+ characters on TV nowadays, and when, then their are token ones, asexual, sidekicks, supporting roles, or stand nice in the background. And the exception confirms rather the rule. I disagree. Lesbian characters get to kiss and have sex, gay male characters usually don't. Raymond Holt has never kissed his husband on Brooklyn Nine-Nine. David Singh only get to hug his husband on The Flash, no kiss there either. Then you have shows like Orphan Black where the lesbians get to have girlfriends, yet the gay male characters is always the sidekick and forever alone, no boyfriend for him! The lesbians on the show get to kiss and have sex though, of course. Then there's the gay character on Arrow, also neutered. And the list goes on and on. The thing is.. even with 5 dead lesbian characters this tv season they STILL get better representation than gay male characters, because lesbian characters aren't neutered. Gay male characters are either a) barely there b) stereotypical, played up for laughs, the loyal sidekick c) neutered or d) a) b) and c) combined. And before you say I'm a bigot or whatever. I'm not. I'm not against lesbian characters getting portrayed on tv. All I'm asking is that the gay male characters get treated the same, as equals, and so far they don't. Lesbian characters are treated far far better, even with the current death of several lesbian characters, they still have openly lesbian characters on The Fosters, The Walking Dead, The 100, Orphan Black, Orange is the New Black, House of Cards, Gotham, Arrow, Legends of Tomorrow, Person of Interest, General Hospital and the list goes on and on and on. This is not counting the lesbian characters lost this year btw. So yeah.. to summarize I disagree with you. Gay male characters are treated far worse, though it's not a competition. I would just FOR ONCE like to see gay men be able to kiss and have sex too, it's ridiculous that even MARRIED gay male characters don't get to kiss their husbands, yet lesbian characters get to sleep around and be slutty! There's extremely explicit lesbian sex scenes on Game of Thrones and Black Sails, Black Sails allowed one gay male kiss and then there was outrage because the lead pirate turned out to be gay, then he was neutered the next season and he has so far had no love interest, nobody to kiss or have sex with. The lesbian pirates get to go down on each other though, of course! Game of Thrones had one gay sex scene several seasons ago but it was pg-13 compared to the fully naked women you see having sex in their lesbian scenes. So yeah.. sorry if I disagree with you. Anyway.. enough about that. This is about Will. With the way he has been treated, I'm not sad to lose him specifically, I'm more sad we lose yet another gay character. The character in itself wasn't that interesting.
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angel
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Post by angel on May 15, 2016 12:46:27 GMT -5
I dont think you are a bigot, and I say its true what you say, how different gays and lesbian are treated on TV, unfortunatly nowadays. My only point was, that I dont think its in the near future more a lesbian than a gay, I think its neither one of them --> No LGBT+ people in general.
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Post by kevvoi on Jun 5, 2016 10:15:17 GMT -5
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