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Post by sonia38 on Dec 23, 2011 18:05:05 GMT -5
Well, we can now say that we have confirmation that Luca is gay after today's epi What? Luca is gay? Say it ain't so ;D
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Post by bkoz on Dec 23, 2011 18:47:27 GMT -5
Thank you for the caps Joanna.
Christian looks yummy in that blue shirt.
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Post by sonia38 on Dec 23, 2011 18:53:09 GMT -5
How safe is Olli’s building when anyone could just end up sleeping in the only hallway in the building. How did Emilio get in there any way? Jessica and Daniel are always in each other’s face and I don’t care how much he protests about wanting Helena, a part of him wants Jessica too if they keep up this bickering who knows where it will lead. If I had to choose my choice would be Jessica and Daniel she actually works well with both Daniel and Andi unlike Helena.
Lol at Christian not wanting to shake Emilio’s hand and keeping an eye on the apartment while Ollie was there with Emilio. This was actually too much Emilio for my taste and for the Lansteins being so rich you think they could afford more that that pitiful Christmas tree.
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Post by dalphine on Dec 23, 2011 20:47:37 GMT -5
I would choose Jessica as well. I like the actress that plays Helena shes seem really nice, but something about her that just doesn't click with the guys they put her with.
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Post by Trish on Dec 23, 2011 22:40:44 GMT -5
I like Helena with Daniel a lot beter than I ever did with Andi. Maybe it's after the accident and everything she went through, she's more relaxed and not quite as stuck up. That's the way it seems to me. She's willing to let down her guard with him. I too loved Christian's reaction to Emillo. He looked at Olli, like how many little tarts did you have over there. Then he kept an eye on Charlie's after he let Daniel into the flatshare. Too funny. First we had Olli keepting an eye on Frank and now we have Christian showing his jealous card. I think we are going to have to wonder about either of these too straying. They are obviously keeping a close eye on each other.
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Post by lolaruns on Dec 24, 2011 2:01:19 GMT -5
Helena seems really happy and fullfilled with Daniel. Alas that makes for really, really, really uninteresting soap watching.
I dunno whether it's because seeing happy people is generally boring or whether it's only enjoyable if you actually see the characters "work for it" and earn it. But here it's just kinda snoozy to me.
Like "Hey, great you found each other, can you leave the show now?".
I do think that the hospital set with the constantly the same white clothes doesn't help. They are more interesting "in the wild" with more colorful clothes.
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Post by Trish on Dec 24, 2011 8:48:38 GMT -5
I agree about the hospital set, but the scenes with Frau Rieth were touching.
They are completely taking the easy way, but the idea of on again, off again, on again in one show is going to become boring real soon. I don't think things will be easy for them. Andi obviously isn't happy and Nico probably won't take kindly to Helena having any type of happiness either. Unfortunately, I feel we have a long road of staying away for others that will get boring pretty quickly. It will kind of make you wish for them to just leave town and be happy, if the people around you don't like it.
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Post by MercuryMay on Jan 3, 2012 19:47:54 GMT -5
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Post by Trish on Jan 3, 2012 20:16:31 GMT -5
Thanks MM and welcome back. Hope you had a nice vacation.
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Post by sonia38 on Jan 3, 2012 21:06:40 GMT -5
Thanks MM.
See, I had no idea Jessica called Helena Princess Sleeping Pill, thank goodness for translation and that was a classic line.
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Post by bkoz on Jan 3, 2012 21:55:01 GMT -5
Thank you MM for the vid and translation.
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Post by blaykee on Jan 3, 2012 22:57:26 GMT -5
I'm a little uncomfortable with the talk of Christian and Jessica. While i think it's a good thing they can joke about it, it seems like Olli was more than just joking. I have a feeling he's still not over it.
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Post by chrolliforever7 on Jan 3, 2012 23:00:26 GMT -5
I dont think Olli's over it, and I dont think he ever will. How does one become completely okay with their husband cheating on them? You just don't. The important thing is that he knows that Christian loves him and regrets what happened with Jessica.
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Post by blaykee on Jan 3, 2012 23:02:53 GMT -5
I dont think Olli's over it, and I dont think he ever will. How does one become completely okay with their husband cheating on them? You just don't. The important thing is that he knows that Christian loves him and regrets what happened with Jessica. idk I really think he needs to forgive and forget or it'll come back to haunt them. (and it's his prerogative to not forgive, I just don't think it's healthy to hold on to things like that in a marriage)
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Post by Trish on Jan 3, 2012 23:11:41 GMT -5
I completely agree. It does seem like it still bothers him. He made it seem like Christian was with Jessica more than once.
Also, why do they always call it a lapse. They need another term.
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Post by blaykee on Jan 3, 2012 23:15:29 GMT -5
omg trish thanks for reminding me, what's the deal with Germans and "lapses" Didn't Deniz use that term too when he slept with his jessica? and first Christian and now Daniel.
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Post by LadyArmand on Jan 3, 2012 23:25:42 GMT -5
I have never liked the phrase forgive and forget".
You can forgive someone, but it is damn near impossible to forget what they've done to you that hurt you. Especially when it comes to cheating. Forgetting to me implies living in a dangerous kind of ignorance. And when it comes to infidelity one can hardly offered to live in that kind of ignorance.
Olli has a right to feel whatever it is he feels. He’s forgiven Christian, that doesn’t mean he has to live with his head in the sand, nor does it mean (no matter how close they are, no matter how much they love each other, and no matter how much they’ve both forgiven each other) that at times it’s still not going to sting. That some jokes aren’t all that funny, and that calling it a lapse is trivializing something that caused a great deal of harm no matter how they now seek to gloss it over now.
Constantly saying Olli should be over it or should get over it, implies that somehow Olli isn’t entitled to his feelings, which I personally think he is. He didn’t harp on it, he just didn’t look all that comfortable with the joking about it. And frankly who the hell would. Forgiveness doesn’t mean all of a sudden you’ve turned deaf, dumb, blind and stupid.
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Post by blaykee on Jan 3, 2012 23:36:44 GMT -5
I said it was his prerogative to not forgive (therefore saying he's entitled to his feelings), but it's also not healthy to use it against Christian now that they are starting over.
And to "forget" may just be letting sleeping dogs lie. Why does he feel the need to rub it in again? and to accuse him of doing it more than once? "again and again" It'll just come back to haunt them if he doesn't deal with it.
eta: and I agree that "lapse" trivializes it, and that seems to be what Christian was trying to convey here.
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Post by Trish on Jan 3, 2012 23:53:01 GMT -5
Olli seems to accept that Jessica has slept with every man in the flatshare and just chalks it up to her being her. If that's her goal and he's forgiven her part in it, he should be able to get past Christian's part in it. It just didn't seem like he did.
He's decided that he was wrong keeping Christian out when he truly loved him and making it seem like he's still on probation doesn't bode well for their future and having Jessica strutting around, more like clomping, the flatshare doesn't help. Everytime she causes a guy to have a lapse, it will just open old wounds, which it seems like Daniel did, when Olli said that he understood where she was coming from. The situation wasn't even the same. They were just starting the relationship and honestly, Daniel didn't know that Jessica was a sore spot with Helena.
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