VL 26-30/09/11 ep chat (+ caps/vids)

[chrolliforever7]

goddamnit, TODAY OF ALL DAYS?? REALLY, MEDIATHEK!!

[gelybi]

I bet we have to be prepared for them to update the mediathek by 3 am the day their reunion would air!

[amk]

Sept 28, 2011 13:01:55 GMT -5 gelybi said:

Someone that watch on tv could please say something? Was it good? My satellite tv also refused to work today of all days!

if you ask me - not bad episode
I don't have too much time - so only briefly , sorry

I loved they both today - Olli and Christian as well - his sad look was priceless
some good scenes in the flatshare and especially Olli with Helena and then Olli and Christian .
but the whole episode was not bad - also Andi, Nicola etc. had some good scenes - and a lot of flashbacks again !!!

[gelybi]

Thanks AMK!!
Arrrggghh I hate Mediathek right now.

[silviam11]

Sept 28, 2011 13:10:15 GMT -5 @amk said:

Sept 28, 2011 13:01:55 GMT -5 gelybi said:

Someone that watch on tv could please say something? Was it good? My satellite tv also refused to work today of all days!

if you ask me - not bad episode
I don't have too much time - so only briefly , sorry

I loved they both today - Olli and Christian as well - his sad look was priceless
some good scenes in the flatshare and especially Olli with Helena and then Olli and Christian .
but the whole episode was not bad - also Andi, Nicola etc. had some good scenes - and a lot of flashbacks again !!!

Thank you! But I need to see it myself

[Trish]

Me too. I read a summary on FB and I really need to see the show.

[silviam11]

ALELUIA!

[Davian]

People at FB are saying it's already up and silviam11 is aleluia-ing but I can only see the vorschau...
*the sound of silence*
Guess it's up, only I'm not able to watch it.

[lolaruns]

mediathek.daserste.de/sendungen_a-z/439104_verbotene-liebe/8332324_folge-3931--v-ter?type=null

Doesn't work for you?

[Davian]

^^ YES! Vielen dank, Lola!

[Trish]

Finally saw the show. Need translations for most of it, but they were so cute when Chris first got there. I loved that he was checking his hair when Dana opened the door and how he and Olli paused and looked at each other after he said hi.

He was so nervous. He bumped into the table. The Nico had to burst the bubble.


On a side note, loved that it was Kim father that won the bidding. Too cute. And Dana is a good friend, even if her life is a mess. She's come a long way.
Chris was devastated, when Olli brought up divorce. Tomorrow is going to be hard.

[jdecologne]

Well, I usually take Olli's side unconditionally, because I like Jo so much, but today he really drove me up the wall. For the first time I was on Christian's side. Olli was so unfair and irrational in the scene at the flatshare. With regard to the storyline I think this fight was a bit too much out of the blue, they should have come up with something more profound to start the divorce topic.
The rest was a bit dull, I like Andi though at the moment. He is better without Helena, I hope it stays that way.

[silviam11]

Sept 28, 2011 14:37:36 GMT -5 jdecologne said:

Well, I usually take Olli's side unconditionally, because I like Jo so much, but today he really drove me up the wall. For the first time I was on Christian's side. Olli was so unfair and irrational in the scene at the flatshare. With regard to the storyline I think this fight was a bit too much out of the blue, they should have come up with something more profound to start the divorce topic.
The rest was a bit dull, I like Andi though at the moment. He is better without Helena, I hope it stays that way.

I didn't understand most of the conversation, but I also had the impression that a stupid discussion like that shouldn't be enough to trigger the divorse thing. They've gone through so much more during these months and had never mentioned that! And again... Olli seemed to overreact . Did he bring the J subject again or I didn't get it right?

[lolaruns]

Ok a short summary (from memory, I might be forgetting stuff).

Andi/Dana/Olli chat about Flüsterparties, what they are, whether it's a good idea (Andi/Dana/Jessica also have a conversation about sex and how Andi hasn't been having any with the conversation going back to Helena/Andi)

Olli brings in the paper that says Helena ran over Phil but nobody looks at it yet. Olli talks about Nico and how he hasn't heard from her since the funeral. Andi suggests they invite her to cheer her up. Lists the people they should invite including Christian. Olli isn't happy says why. Andi says Christian is Nico's friend too. Dana says Olli and Christian should be able to be in a room for one hour without snapping at each other. Olli says only if Andi can do the same with Helena. Why? Because Helena is Nico's best friend. Andi hesitantly agrees.

Christian arrives, brings Dana the workout plan, adjusted to her injury. Andi gives away that Dana has been letting things slide and eating chocolate. Olli says Dana shouldn't give up so easily, Christian is shocked, but agrees. Dana grabs the paper and realizes that they made a huge mistake inviting Helena. Nico comes in and yells don't they read the paper? Andi doesn't want to believe that Helena would do that, Nico says Helena admitted it. Olli is angry because Helena always acts so prim and proper. Christian thinks it's brave that she turned herself in. Nico is pissed and says that Helena only did it to alleviate her conscience/to make herself feel better. Christian says it's still brave because it seems that she easily could have gotten away with not being caught at all. Olli snaps at him that it figures that he would admire that since he also wanted praise for immediately coming to Olli about the Jessica thing. They start yelling each other, Nico says "thanks for the cheering up" and leave angrily, Dana is pissed that Chrolli can't behave themselves.

Olli leaves, runs into Helena. He's angry at her for lying to them all, for standing by when Nico lashed out at Olli for being the reason Phil walked into the street, Helena calmly keeps apologizing and says she did everything wrong. Olli also says it's her fault that Andi tortured herself. Helena asks how Andi reacted to the news and Olli describes Andi's reaction to her.

Olli comes home and him and Dana start talking about Chrolli fighting in front of Nico. Dana says that Chrolli could make up again because they still love each other. Olli not believing her says they always fight when the come across each other. Dana says that proves that they still love each other otherwise they wouldn't get to each other like that, they would just be indifferent. Olli flashes back to his various fights with Christian. Then seeks Christian out and says it's not use to keep holding on to the relationship, they should talk about a divorce.

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the main problem was not the topic of their fight ( Jessica and all that stuff) but Olli had (somehow = through the flashbacks) to realize that they actually don't know anything else lately - just fights and fights and Olli doesn't see any other way anymore , than just give up .
- the only stupid thing IMO was that their fight was in front of Nicola - but anyway - I think it was a pretty good episode.

[Davian]

I agree with you guys, jdecologne and silvia. Not only was it out of the blue and IMO insufficient to trigger the divorce talk, I thought it was very inconsiderate of Olli them towards Nico who, after having lost her husband, discovered that her best friend was responsible for his death.

But I loved when Christian entered the wg, fixing his hair, all shy... I think he even blushed when he dropped the... thing. And he was devastated at the end, my poor baby.

[lolaruns]

I'm not sure completely how that end should be read. Did Olli not believe Dana's theory that fighting is a sign of love. Or did he understand it as them fighting is their way of holding on and he wants to artificially create this situation of indifference because they are holding on to things but Olli thinks that's pointless because he has no hope about getting back together?

[silviam11]

Sept 28, 2011 15:02:11 GMT -5 lolaruns said:

I'm not sure completely how that end should be read. Did Olli not believe Dana's theory that fighting is a sign of love. Or did he understand it as them fighting is their way of holding on and he wants to artificially create this situation of indifference because they are holding on to things but Olli thinks that's pointless because he has no hope about getting back together?

Who knows what's in Olli's mind anyway?

[chrischi]

Sept 28, 2011 15:02:11 GMT -5 lolaruns said:

I'm not sure completely how that end should be read. Did Olli not believe Dana's theory that fighting is a sign of love. Or did he understand it as them fighting is their way of holding on and he wants to artificially create this situation of indifference because they are holding on to things but Olli thinks that's pointless because he has no hope about getting back together?

Imo Olli realized two things, that this endless fighting has to end and that he can't get over Christian's night with Jessica.

[Trish]

Sept 28, 2011 15:06:26 GMT -5 silviam11 said:

Sept 28, 2011 15:02:11 GMT -5 lolaruns said:

I'm not sure completely how that end should be read. Did Olli not believe Dana's theory that fighting is a sign of love. Or did he understand it as them fighting is their way of holding on and he wants to artificially create this situation of indifference because they are holding on to things but Olli thinks that's pointless because he has no hope about getting back together?

Who knows what's in Olli's mind anyway?

I have to admit that I've felt the same way the last 6 months.

[chrischi]

Maybe they don't fit together so well after all. I find it pretty easy to understand Olli.

I did never understand Christian with regard to Jessica/Theresa though.

[robin1]

dana was good in today's episode... reminds me a bit on my lovely judith. didnt understand the selection of the flashback scenes... only bad ones. didnt olli had any good memories?!

[bkoz]

I know that Christian and Olli should not have fought in front of poor Nico, but I don't think Olli overreacted at all. Olli is still angry and hurt over the whole situation with Christian and he feels that Christian was taking Helena's side. Plus in Olli's mind he was blaming himself for Philip's accident, when Helena was the one at fault and she never said anything. And just because Helena confessed doesn't make the act that she did any better, like Olli telling Christian that just because he confessed right away what he did with Jessica doesn't get him any points cause the act that he did was so much worse.

[lolaruns]

I did like a comment on the German board where somebody pointed out that when you run somebody over with a car turning yourself in is the least you can do/should be the normal thing to do and not something you should get special praise for. It should be self evident.

Sept 28, 2011 15:46:49 GMT -5 robin1 said:

dana was good in today's episode... reminds me a bit on my lovely judith. didnt understand the selection of the flashback scenes... only bad ones. didnt olli had any good memories?!

But the topic of the conversation was fights/how bad things had gotten. It wasn't one of those typical "looking back wistfully on the relationship" moments. For example Andi also had flashbacks in this episode and all of his were about the times when Helena acted suspicious or lied to him because their theme was "lies". So this is what he remembered when if his conlcusion at the end of it was that he couldn't bring himself to hate Helena/that he still loves her.

[Trish]

Sept 28, 2011 15:46:49 GMT -5 robin1 said:

dana was good in today's episode... reminds me a bit on my lovely judith. didnt understand the selection of the flashback scenes... only bad ones. didnt olli had any good memories?!

Thinking of the bad times is what made him want the divorce. If he could remember the good then he wouldn't have wanted one. Maybe right now that all he could think of, but given the way he was looking at earlier, they are still there, they just got blanked out by his anger of what had just happened.

He really needs to learn how to take a breath before he makes such big decisions.