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Post by mitsaso on Aug 11, 2011 15:41:32 GMT -5
^lola, why do you keep trying to make me watch the other VL storylines? have I offended you in any way? then why do you want my head to spontaneously combust from TMS (too much stupid) in a TV show? do you hate me that much?
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Post by pru on Aug 11, 2011 15:51:49 GMT -5
thanks joanna for the caps... the pics of olli huggins jessica are so stupid... i mean SHE's the one because the marriage is over.... and now they're living and working together... this is stupid, stupid, stupid... even for a soap, dear writers! She was there, but she never made any promises of love and fidelity to Olli, she didn't get up in a church and vow her undying love to Olli either. So while she is not blameless she's not the whole reason. Olli played his part as did Christian. And since they are the ones who were/are married to each other, the lions share of the blame falls to them. Exactly, LadyArmand. Trying to blame Jessica is lame, stupid, and a big ass cop out. And I've been saying the same things you've said since this sl started. Jessica didn't owe Olli squat. They didn't even really know each other then. Christian is the one who swore to love him and be with ONLY him in front of their family, friends, and god. Too bad he had no problems breaking those promises.
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Post by boszz on Aug 11, 2011 16:00:04 GMT -5
Does it really matter at this point whether they had threesome or not? Trust has been broken and i dont really think that would help anyone if they hadnt done anything at all ( considering Teresa/Philip stories).Not to tell both Andi and Christian were sure that something happened (Andi had even some flashback if i remember clearly). I'd say too much time has passed to suddenly throw it-was-just-a-joke-thing.. I dont even know what they're trying to do with raphael and Oliver . He's too young to be considered as serious rival and dont think he'll even think about it like that. I reallly would like some like Marc or Spike (JP/Craig) to appear. Someone who's confident about who he is and knows what he really wants and how to take care of person he cares of. Maybe with some serious candidate Christian would be forced to take some actions ( AT LAST) and show us what he feels and how he'd prove that he really loves Oliver because right now it looks like a joke that someone like Oli cant find anyone decent and propably will be forced ( kind of) to take Christian back (it would be much better if Raphael was a little older...)
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Post by lolaruns on Aug 11, 2011 16:02:25 GMT -5
^lola, why do you keep trying to make me watch the other VL storylines? But then how can something be a VL thing to do ;D
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Post by joanna on Aug 11, 2011 16:02:50 GMT -5
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Post by Trish on Aug 11, 2011 16:26:39 GMT -5
I think that's my problem with it, that it doesn't feel like a VL thing to do to me with the way it is told. For one as a show VL sadly has never been all that good about paying attention to detail (and they have even less reason to do that for minor storylines) or about paying attention to the things fans care about (like anniversaries, preserving a couple's special place or song). VL just doesn't do "subtle" (except by coincidence). Right now VL is telling a whole bucket of secret stories. And they are all told the same way. Having the viewers know the truth (to create this feeling of frustration and yelling the characters for the truth to finally come out), having the characters all act very obvious whenever they are lying, etc. Oh yes, you are totally right on the subtlety thing. If VL wasn't still hammering us with mentions of the threesome, I would have accepted that it happened and the show moved on already. But since they keep force-feeding us with throwbacks to the threesome, I can't help but think that there's gonna be a payoff on that. And frankly, if they had made obvious from the start that Jessica was lying, all the things that followed would be THAT much more frustrating. Olli, especially, would be losing every credibility in his reactions if we knew for sure from the start that Christian didn't do anything. Except for a certain person or two who would still defend him to the death. The threesome concept is still badly conceptualized in every aspect, still. It's so retarded it makes my head hurt. Three characters having a threesome out of nowhere and nobody remembers? Them doing it with the last woman in the cast they would (especially Andi)? Having a gay/bi man in the mix and never even CONSIDERING that it wasn't a completely straight threesome? Whichever aspect you pick from the whole thing, it just fails. That part is so true. I remember in the Rob s/l we all knew that Rob was a drug dealer and that Christian was right, but yet Olli stood up for him. To put Olli in that position again, where he is throwing Christian out, taking him is things and refusing to talk to him, when we know that he didn't do anything would shead an even worse light on him, even if he does believe it happened. Olli believed that Rob was just trying to help him grow his club. This is a soap, the don't repeat things over and over again for no reason. Jessica got her new fancy job with Tanja. There is no reason that she wuld want to be in the orbit of a man whose marriage she destroyed and others who hate her. She could take her job and her ambition and go on her marry way. Yet they have her in the middle of things so she can see what she has done hs caused. This can't be for Jessica's redemption. There would be no drama in that. There is more at play and the fact that they wont let us forget that night keeps driving it home.
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Post by lolaruns on Aug 11, 2011 16:31:59 GMT -5
Wow, this kind of idealism. How cute ;D
If I had a dollar for everything VL repeated for no reason ever since the show started I would be very rich. I would argue that this is actually their bread and butter.
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Post by MercuryMay on Aug 11, 2011 16:44:28 GMT -5
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Post by Trish on Aug 11, 2011 16:47:19 GMT -5
Maybe, but they brought it up in the beginning, then it was dropped and now, it's being repeated again. At a time when Jessica is in the middle of things and getting everything she wants. A new job and career, a new apartment and new friends. Maybe if Jessica could have heard Dana/Andi talking or something she would react to conversations about that night, but she's oblivious. Happy that things are going right for her for once. Yes, it's odd that we are previleged, but maybe for once VL got it right and will surpise us. As you said they are very in your face about thngs. We saw Helena run Philp over and drive away. Why wouldn't we have seen the threesome, or at least the start. Why have Andi/Chris not remember and rely on Jessica to tell them what happened? They didn't lay us out for us as they usually do. They left just enough to make it a possibility.
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Post by mandalai on Aug 11, 2011 17:47:04 GMT -5
tahnks for the video MM! and thanks joanna for the caps!
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Post by AndreB on Aug 11, 2011 18:02:36 GMT -5
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Post by shiyo on Aug 11, 2011 18:12:41 GMT -5
I thought the look Christian gave Olli was pretty interesting. I cant figure out what it means. With Theresa that look means "Lets have sex". With Olli, does it mean, "Hey, I know you had sex"?
Very confusing acting by Thore, again. And Christian, dont pass judgement on who Olli is having sex with. You have no right.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2011 18:16:00 GMT -5
Weird ass family with the Dana/Hagen/lying parents. The only person I feel sorry for is Marlene, literally betrayed on all sides. Oy, Olli, this isn’t the way. He needs to slow down and take his time. This eagerness only betrays his inability still to truly move on inside; it’s clear what he misses is love, not sex. At least with him, even when neither explicit nor evidently implied, I can somehow see it, no need really to fill too many blanks on the spot. But I expected him to make mistakes, as one always does after a fall before being able to really stand straight again. Still, it’s not necessary to take it this far writers, especially when it’s plain as day, at least IMO, that Olli’s never looked better. C’mon, who wouldn’t want to hit that? I guess overeagerness outrules all, huh? The harshness of the text, not so much the rejection in itself, also contrasted with the scene we saw of Olli and Tobi in the morning though. LOL, Christian has some nerve. He needs just to take care of his Theresa and let Olli be. I really like the dynamic in the apartment, even if I have to take some suspension of belief on the Jessica thing – at least it’s not completely wiped out from memories. It’s not like the birth of the Chris/Olli pairing didn’t require some suspension of belief in the first place. Thanks for the videos.
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Post by sena on Aug 11, 2011 19:28:30 GMT -5
everytime I look at shirtless Olli , I think : oh , Christian , what a loss !
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Post by pru on Aug 11, 2011 20:24:00 GMT -5
I thought the look Christian gave Olli was pretty interesting. I cant figure out what it means. With Theresa that look means "Lets have sex". With Olli, does it mean, "Hey, I know you had sex"? Very confusing acting by Thore, again. And Christian, dont pass judgement on who Olli is having sex with. You have no right. shiyo, you know what really pissed me off? The fact that Christian thinks he has an opinion on anything in Olli's life. He is nothing but a big hypocritical ass who needed to STFU and not spoken one word to Olli. Because one, Olli was in Schneiders minding and handling his business with Charlie and had no clue that Christian was even there. Secondly, how are you going to try and have an opinion about anything when you came into Schneiders with your trick...oh my bad, your girlfriend obviously to have drinks and dinner? Then he comes at Olli like he has a right to say anything? Olli is too damn nice cuz I would have told him go f*ck himself and kept on stepping.
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Post by angelarose on Aug 11, 2011 20:26:59 GMT -5
Thanks very much for the videos May, and the caps Joanna.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2011 21:06:46 GMT -5
Just let him be, I say. They’re not together after all, no more than they were after that hallway convo where Olli made it clear. As long as he and everyone else let Olli be and have his own life as well, it’s fine and dandy with me. Now, if any sanctimoniousness comes out again of the guy, Charlie or Olli’s so-called friends about this, well, I don’t even want to think about it. You and me both, macari. As for the part you don't wanna think about...think about it. Because Christian has morphed into the biggest asshole walking and I can easily see him being hypocritical as Olli moves on with his life and try to have something to say about it. Looks like it was a good thing to think it beforehand indeed, pru. ;D He just keeps meeting expectations, lol.
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Post by andc39 on Aug 11, 2011 21:16:42 GMT -5
olli had the best come back..
C. I see your'e prefrences haven't changed
O. ( while looking at Theresa) As opposed to youre's.
Good one , Olli .
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Post by Trish on Aug 11, 2011 21:19:11 GMT -5
I'll admit that was a good line.
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Post by andc39 on Aug 11, 2011 21:26:29 GMT -5
It was a good come back.
I couldn't get a good read on Christian's reaction..
Was it jealousy, remorse, regret, or resignation
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Post by Trish on Aug 11, 2011 21:32:10 GMT -5
It was a good come back. I couldn't get a good read on Christian's reaction.. Was it jealuosy, remorse, regret, or resignation I think it was a combination of all those. He knows that he's played a big part in what Olli is doing and the only reason he said anything was because he was jealous. Then he wondered why he would say such a thing and yeah Olli is right. Christian is as big a mess as Olli. He's got so many emotions going on inside of him and he has not clue what to do with them.
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Post by sonia38 on Aug 11, 2011 21:36:15 GMT -5
I just don't get it, you mean to tell me that when Toby left Olli's apt, he could not even see straight (according to Christian), he almost knock something out of Christian's hand, that seems to me that Olli really laid it on him good and plenty. How come all of a sudden he's not into Olli cause Olli is too old, what did I miss.
Yes, Olli certainly told Christian good today about his preference but from the minute Christian saw him he could not take his eyes off him and had to go start something, what the hell for, he has no rights whatsoever in Olli's business. If you ask me he's a tad jealous but he has not right to be when he's out having a good time with his girlfriend.
I don't know who the writers are trying to fool but we can all see that Olli would have no trouble finding a date, he's all that and more.
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Post by pru on Aug 11, 2011 21:37:26 GMT -5
You and me both, macari. As for the part you don't wanna think about...think about it. Because Christian has morphed into the biggest asshole walking and I can easily see him being hypocritical as Olli moves on with his life and try to have something to say about it. Looks like it was a good thing to think it beforehand indeed, pru. ;D He just keeps meeting expectations, lol. Dayum, I was so on point it's scary, huh, macari? It really is a shame that I can spot his trifleness a mile off.
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Post by pru on Aug 11, 2011 21:44:50 GMT -5
I just don't get it, you mean to tell me that when Toby left Olli's apt, he could not even see straight (according to Christian), he almost knock something out of Christian's hand, that seems to me that Olli really laid it on him good and plenty. How come all of a sudden he's not into Olli cause Olli is too old, what did I miss. Yes, Olli certainly told Christian good today about his preference but from the minute Christian saw him he could not take his eyes off him and had to go start something, what the hell for, he has no rights whatsoever in Olli's business. If you ask me he's a tad jealous but he has not right to be when he's out having a good time with his girlfriend. I don't know who the writers are trying to fool but we can all see that Olli would have no trouble finding a date, he's all that and more. sonia, you didn't miss one thing. Olli clearly rocked Tobi's world and by the way he kissed him goodbye he was looking forward to seeing Olli again. And WORD on him almost knocking Christian's over. The writers dropped the ball having Tobi react that way. It would have been different if Tobi had not spent the night with Olli and had looked like wanted to get away when he left the flatshare, instead of the opposite. Him sending Olli that text was lame and unbelievable. Like we believe for one second Olli couldn't pull men all day long. As for Christian, tell me about it. His actions were beyond assy. And like macari showed me I called it from the jump. I knew if Chrissy boy found out about it he would show his ass and also show what a big hypocrite he is. I also knew Olli wouldn't stand for nonsense either. I mean sonia, the gall alone astounds me. How are you going to say one word to your ex when you strolled up into his Aunt's place with your latest trick? How does that even work?
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Post by blaykee on Aug 11, 2011 21:46:59 GMT -5
Maybe it was the constant messages/phone calls Olli left . The guy was looking for fun and Olli came off desperate and looking for more. He could have certainly worded his text better but maybe Olli scared him off.
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