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Post by Trish on Dec 28, 2012 15:26:00 GMT -5
I want Sonny to take a breather from Will also, after the truth comes out. Just to sort things out in his head. Will will have his whole family around him to support him. He won't be alone. Sonny could still be there as his friend though. I just don't want Sonny to be a pushover in this situation. No he won't. He will have the whole family trying to tell him what to do. His dysfuctional family is a big part of why he was doing this. Kate and his father pulling in one direction and his mother in the other. He won't want to listen to anything that they have to say. He will want to talk to Gabi, but Gabi wont want to talk to him, because of what he has done. Then he will want to talk with Sonny. Sonny might not want to talk to him either, but we all know that won't last long. And how is Sonny walking away and not looking back going to make anyone happy, except for the ones that want Will to pay for lying.
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Post by archeri on Dec 28, 2012 15:32:40 GMT -5
I just think that this whole storyline will be all for nothing if Sonny just hunches his shoulders and supports Will right away after learning the truth. I at least want Sonny to have a few unsure days/weeks about what he wants to do next in regard to Will.
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Post by Pedris2 on Dec 28, 2012 15:47:55 GMT -5
So it seems that Will and Sonny will be on New Year's Eve outside of Salem.
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Post by jjose712 on Dec 28, 2012 15:52:03 GMT -5
I just think that this whole storyline will be all for nothing if Sonny just hunches his shoulders and supports Will right away after learning the truth. I at least want Sonny to have a few unsure days/weeks about what he wants to do next in regard to Will. I agree, he deserves the right to be angry for a while. If he simply supports Will like if nothing really happened that sets a really low expectation for their relationship. If Will confeses after knowing the truth, i'm pretty sure Sonny would forgive him fast (i still think he will be angry at first) but right now, i'm not sure he will get over it that fast
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Post by jjose712 on Dec 28, 2012 16:12:13 GMT -5
In my opinion the normal reaction of a twenty something gay guy in a relationship with his boyfriend for a couple of months after knowing his boyfriend is going to be father and he lies to him for quite some time about that is dropping him like a stone. As simple as that. And sorry, but that's not being selfish at all, is being smart, because the fact that your boyfriend slept with his ex because he was upset is a big big red sign, and the fact that he decides not to tell you the truth is not a good sing either, and the fact that he has no balls to defend what he thinks is better for the child and not assume his responsability is not a good sign either. And i'm pretty sure Sonny will dump Will, in fact, if he doesn't do it it will be totally out of character, because Sonny has hot temper, and he break up with Will after Will asked him for his sex life. And he reacted really really bad after their first kiss and Will rejected him (that doesn't make any sense at all, because it was supposed that Will had feelings for Sonny back then, but of course they need a lame excuse to start this awful storyline). So in my opinion Sonny will react very bad, first because i don't think he will like the fact that his boyfriend slept with a girl months after coming out, second because that girl is Gabi and he can't stand her and third because Will lied to him for quite some time. I think more sooner than later he will forgive Will and support him, but at first he will react bad. And i hope he will react bad, because if he is all comprehensive a supporting Will from minute one that only means that Sonny has no other purpose in the show that being Will's doormat I think that depends on whether Sonny hears about it from someone at the wedding or if Will tells him. Adrienne is going to give Sonny some important advice. When someone is tearing apart the one that you love, you stick by him. So I think that Sonny is going to realize that Will has been going through this because of Gabi, who has done something terrible to Melanie, to get what she wants and Nick, who is an ass. As I said before, he saw how happy they were at Christmas and them being that way, when his boyfriend is having nightmares will quickly explain the lasat few months to him. I think his mom will be mad for a hot second too, if she shows back up, but I think that Justin will bring her in line since he knows about Nick/Gabi. But that's not true, he is not going through this because of Gabi, he is going through this because his own fault. First because he was so scared about being gay that thought having sex with his ex, the same ex he avoided during their relationship, will be a good idea. Second because he wasn't smart enough to use a condom. And third because he has so distorted vision of himself that thought that an ex con will be a better father than him Yes, Gabi and Nick plot this whole mess, but the truth is that Nick is assuming Will's responsabilities, so it's difficult to see him as the bad man on this. It was Will the one who renounced to his rights as father (fortunately he didn't do nothing legally), nobody forced him to do it. They used a very flawed logic on him, and he bought it. If he wants to blame someone, he is the first on that list
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Post by Trish on Dec 28, 2012 16:37:59 GMT -5
I think that depends on whether Sonny hears about it from someone at the wedding or if Will tells him. Adrienne is going to give Sonny some important advice. When someone is tearing apart the one that you love, you stick by him. So I think that Sonny is going to realize that Will has been going through this because of Gabi, who has done something terrible to Melanie, to get what she wants and Nick, who is an ass. As I said before, he saw how happy they were at Christmas and them being that way, when his boyfriend is having nightmares will quickly explain the lasat few months to him. I think his mom will be mad for a hot second too, if she shows back up, but I think that Justin will bring her in line since he knows about Nick/Gabi. But that's not true, he is not going through this because of Gabi, he is going through this because his own fault. First because he was so scared about being gay that thought having sex with his ex, the same ex he avoided during their relationship, will be a good idea. Second because he wasn't smart enough to use a condom. And third because he has so distorted vision of himself that thought that an ex con will be a better father than him Yes, Gabi and Nick plot this whole mess, but the truth is that Nick is assuming Will's responsabilities, so it's difficult to see him as the bad man on this. It was Will the one who renounced to his rights as father (fortunately he didn't do nothing legally), nobody forced him to do it. They used a very flawed logic on him, and he bought it. If he wants to blame someone, he is the first on that list Believe me, I think Will is blaming himself. Blaming himself that he did a terrible thing to Gabi, blaming himself that he can't do any better for his child then his parents did and blaming himself that he messed up again. There is more than enough blame on Will's head. So isn't it time to break the cycle. I want WilSon to have a great relationship. We can't stop people from wanting to come between them, but like Bo/Hope, we can hope that they have a stonger bond than some homophobe like Nick and some self absurbed person like Gabi can break. Sonny standing by Will isn't saying that he's weak, it's saying that Will should have come to him and he would have been there and the next time, he won't doubt what they have. I don't want Sonny to run off an lick his wounds. He's better than that. He needs to stand there and be with his man and let Nick/Gabi know that what they have is better than them. That the poison that they were dishing out that a gay man doesn't want a baby and that he would walk away is just that poison. I won't be surprised if Sonny walks off, but before the wedding is over and right in front of Nick and Gabi, I want him to walk up to Will and plant a kiss on him and make Nick's jaw drop to the floor like it did when they kissed under the mistletoe. Will isn't putting faith in Sonny, so Sonny needs to let him know he was wrong for that and walking out on him doesn't do that. I will add, that the second that they are alone, I would like Sonny to tell him under no circumstance will he forgive another lie and if it happens again, he is gone and will never come back. But I don't want Nick/Gabi to see that.
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Post by Pedris2 on Dec 28, 2012 17:15:18 GMT -5
I think a lot will depend on what is for what Will and Nick will have a fight! Apparently Nick will once again have some homophobic bullshit, and Will will oppose. It is clear that Nick does not want Will to be godfather. Another thing causes that Sonny to go to the wedding. I am very curious on the twist at the wedding. We shall see. Further to Monday, so Adrienne (and Justin) would likes the wedding for Sonny (and Will). LOL
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Post by Trish on Dec 28, 2012 17:37:52 GMT -5
I think a lot will depend on what is for what Will and Nick will have a fight! Apparently Nick will once again have some homophobic bullshit, and Will will oppose. It is clear that Nick does not want Will to be godfather. Another thing causes that Sonny to go to the wedding. I am very curious on the twist at the wedding. We shall see. Further to Monday, so Adrienne (and Justin) would likes the wedding for Sonny (and Will). LOL I'm not sure of what this will mean. I'm not sure if initially Adrienne and Kate will bump heads or what. We know that Kate will take Will's side, but Adrienne will want to protect Sonny. I think that's why I think that Justin will be a factor, since he knows about Gabi did. He will be more than happy to defend Will against them. Wonder who Nabi will get? This whole thing could rip apart alot of families if they allow them to be a part of the s/l. I wish Marlena could be a part of it, but they have her wrapped up in the Bristen mess. And yeah, for WilSon going out for NYE. Will we get a kiss at midnight?
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Post by Pedris2 on Dec 28, 2012 17:54:54 GMT -5
@trish You're right, if the truth came out, so it may rip apart alot of families, I do not know the whole thing is weird.
With regard to kiss at midnight, so probably not, according to the original Sonny's schedule, so he should not be on the screen for New Year's Eve. I think that Will and Sonny will celebrate in the background. And they will be up in Episode January 2th.
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Post by Trish on Dec 28, 2012 18:02:52 GMT -5
@trish You're right, if the truth came out, so it may rip apart alot of families, I do not know the whole thing is weird. With regard to kiss at midnight, so probably not, according to the original Sonny's schedule, so he should not be on the screen for New Year's Eve. I think that Will and Sonny will celebrate in the background. And they will be up in Episode January 2th. I thought that Sonny/Gabi were suppose to come to a truce on new year's. Days always confuses me with the way they drag out and shorten days. I think Monday's show is still NYE, which should have been Friday's, but the days get back to normal since there will be a new show on 1/1. New years day, could be Tues-Fri of next week. There's nothing in the spoilers that say otherwise. So the day that Sonny and Gabi miss an agreement, Sonny/Will could have scenes and they may kiss. He made up of a terrible Xmas last year, it would be nice if Will made of the NY's too. If I remember correctly Sonny had a great time, dancing with Tyler and the guy in the red shirt.
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Post by Melody on Dec 28, 2012 18:07:49 GMT -5
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Post by Trish on Dec 28, 2012 18:17:01 GMT -5
Thanks for the pics Melody. Way too many of Sami. Anyway, it seems the truce between Sonny/Gabi are on NYE and Sonny is wearing the same clothes. So a NYE kiss is not out of the realm of possibilities.
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Post by Melody on Dec 28, 2012 18:32:25 GMT -5
You are welcome @trish. It pisses me of that Sonny make a New Year's Eve truce with her.
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Post by WillNSonny on Dec 28, 2012 18:50:05 GMT -5
NYE is Wednesday it seems and according to soaps.com Will and Sonny are on. I think the Sonny/Gabi scenes carry over from Tuesday to Wednesday. Same with Nick/Will.
I would assume Will/Sonny kiss on NYE but not a big deal is made of it as it shouldn't since they are in relationship and kiss alread (though without much passion most of the time).
Again Sonny inserted into all of 2 scenes for Monday. What a crock. Either start using him or not but make a decision dool. Pathetic how he's treated like a prop. Yet, Gabi who sucks the life out of every scene is on non stop and everything is about her.
I am surprised at how many people truly think Sonny will get much of a story after the truth comes out. He always was and probably always will be Will's tag along buddy. I see no reason it will change. Sonny's family is non important. Sonny has no individuality on the show. We know nothing about him. I bet we see him get a little upset at Will for a few days and then he will be Will's supporting puppy dog as Will fights for custody. I hope the show proves me wrong but I doubt it. I am now keeping my expectations very low since I got excited at one point thinking the show was truly going for it with the Will and Sonny romance.
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Post by pru on Dec 28, 2012 18:50:41 GMT -5
Will simply needs to do the correct, it's not that hard, and the correct is recognizing his child. Yes, he will lose Sonny. Knowing Sonny he will react very bad, but if he tell the truth soon, after the bad reaction he probably come back. Unfortunately, Will missed a good couple of opportunities to tell the truth, and that will have a cost. Will is not a victim here, he did something very stupid, and that had consecuences, and then he decided to hide his head in the sand and let other do the hard work. Now he doesn't like the direction of the problem, but he is more guilty than Nick of this situation. He didn't legaly renounce his child, so he needs to start to do what he thinks is correct and not what Gabi wants. Gabi is the mother, but he is the father, so he has the same rights as her, she likes it or not. And the posibility of losing Sonny is a lame excuse Speak it, jjose! I don't feel sorry or bad for Will at all. This is a hell of his own making. He is being nothing but a big ass coward and it's just pissing me off. I really hate when writers change the characteristics of a character's core. The Will I have come to know would NEVA have done this bs and let someone else claim paternity of his own child. And he DEFINITELY would not be buying into this nonsense dumb and dumber have been laying on him. I also think he needs to face reality and the fact he is so getting dumped when Sonny finds out. And I can clearly imagine Sonny letting him know it's not because haggy is pregnant with his baby but because he has been LYING to Sonny for awhile now about it.
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Post by Trish on Dec 28, 2012 18:51:53 GMT -5
You are welcome @trish. It pisses me of that Sonny make a New Year's Eve truce with her. I think his talk with his Mom might have something to do with that. Letting her come between them is no good for his relationship with Will. Besides, keep your friends close and your enemies closer. She can do too much damage, as long as Will doens't know what she did.
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Post by pru on Dec 28, 2012 18:54:04 GMT -5
Also, if Days wants drama, Sonny will not say anything about Melanie. Sonny should be put in the same position that Will is in now, he will want to tell, but Chad/Justin won't let him. It will be interesting to see how the dynamic changes between the two. You can't even compare the two secrets because with Sonny's secret someone can go to jail or else Sonny would have told Will all about Gabikins with the quickness. The same can't be said about Will's secret now can it? He is just being a coward. Point. Blank. Period.
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Post by Trish on Dec 28, 2012 18:59:25 GMT -5
Also, if Days wants drama, Sonny will not say anything about Melanie. Sonny should be put in the same position that Will is in now, he will want to tell, but Chad/Justin won't let him. It will be interesting to see how the dynamic changes between the two. You can't even compare the two secrets because with Sonny's secret someone can go to jail or else Sonny would have told Will all about Gabikins with the quickness. The same can't be said about Will's secret now can it? He is just being a coward. Point. Blank. Period. The statement is in regard to when the baby secret comes out. When that happens, the secret that Sonny is keeping, whether or not someone can go to jail or not, WILL become a bigger deal than it is currently. Just like it did no harm to tell Sonny about the baby, he wouldn't tell anyone if Will didn't want him too. It would do no harm to tell Will, because Will wouldn't tell anyone. And if Sonny lets Will lose his child because he thinks that the baby belongs with his mother, that is in on kidnapping and the death of 2 people, he will be a coward too.
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Post by pru on Dec 28, 2012 19:04:40 GMT -5
WOW HQ75. You completely get it and what you said about Will not being selfish but brave, is just what Sonny is going to see. Brave? Yeah no! Brave is standing up and doing the right thing and telling the damn truth. Everything in Will is wanting him to this but is he listening to his inner self? HELL to the MF NO! He is letting dumb and dumber continue to manipulate his ass and fill his head full of bs where Sonny is concerned. Basically he is trying to save a relationship that doesn't need to be saved by lying and denying paternity of his child.
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Post by Trish on Dec 28, 2012 19:16:33 GMT -5
WOW HQ75. You completely get it and what you said about Will not being selfish but brave, is just what Sonny is going to see. Brave? Yeah no! Brave is standing up and doing the right thing and telling the damn truth. Everything in Will is wanting him to this but is he listening to his inner self? HELL to the MF NO! He is letting dumb and dumber continue to manipulate his ass and fill his head full of bs where Sonny is concerned. Basically he is trying to save a relationship that doesn't need to be saved by lying and denying paternity of his child. It's always brave when you put someone you love's well being before your own. Will wants to be a part of the child's life and that is why he is having doubts. He feels that Nick might be a homophobe, but he hasn't confronted him about it yet. Maybe it was a term of endearment, like Sonny's dweeb.
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Post by meaghan on Dec 28, 2012 19:17:28 GMT -5
I do not think Sonny walking away would necessarily mean he's 'licking his wounds.' How many times does Sonny have to say he wants a relationship that's honest and without lies? How many times does he have to think he 'figured it out' and have Will lie by agreeing with him? After Sonny finds out, Will does not need a warning that if he does it again, it's over. That implies he did not know he shouldn't have done it the first time, but he does know that. I'm not angry with him anymore, just frustrated he is letting Nick and Gabi treat him so terribly and not doing what he has wanted to do all along almost - tell Sonny. Just DO IT. It really is not just Gabi and Nick's decision and as he touches on Monday, it isn't healthy or fair for him to have absolutely no one to talk to about it. But just because I can sympathize with him, doesn't mean Sonny shouldn't be allowed to be sad or hurt that his boyfriend felt he couldn't trust him enough or trust their relationship enough to endure this. And Will wouldn't be proving himself right if Sonny does leave him. He'd be proving Sonny right all along. Honest relationship is what Sonny wanted and if that's not also something Will wants or values (I think he does and is in the midst of figuring that out) then such a basic difference is always going to be a problem for these two.
What I would absolutely love to see happen is for Sonny to have doubts after this and take a break from Will. They remain in contact, because how could they not. But Sonny is super supportive as a friend about Will's child and aids him in his decision to take back responsibility and custody of the baby. In this process, they reconnect again and realize they really are horrible at being apart. Having Will see that Sonny is still willing to do anything for him even though they're not together, for me, would give Will that last bit of confidence he needs to know that Sonny loves him unconditionally. But being in the kind of relationship he wants with Sonny does require a different kind of effort sometimes, along with honesty. If Sonny loves him even with his mistakes, he should feel confident in sharing those with him instead of trying to hide parts of himself he doesn't think Sonny will like. Basically, I don't want this to happen as a punishment for Will. More as a lesson for both of them. Sonny does not want kids right now but he's probably going to realize he loves Will and can love Will's kid too, and that he's willing to give up some of that adventuring he'd planned for this new life. Will would learn a little about being in an honest adult relationship and that he isn't a less lovable person (especially to level-headed Sonny) if he makes mistakes, just that when he knows he made one, it's better to own up to it or he might lose the things he loves.
That is way too much development to hope for from a soap opera. But a girl can dream.
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Post by knots on Dec 28, 2012 19:28:20 GMT -5
where did you all see that sonny and will would be on Tuesday. I thought the spoilers said wednesday.
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Post by superfamous on Dec 28, 2012 19:50:45 GMT -5
Once again, you're expecting way too much. Once they got that love scene out of the way and started this baby nonsense, you should've known what was coming. It's expecting too much to want them to have a sensual conversation? If they can't even talk about such things, they have no place being on this show. Personally, I couldn't imagine watching the show with such low expectations. It's no wonder people hate this story. Yes, it's expecting way too much to want them to have a "sensual conversation". Like I said, once they got that love scene out the way and started this baby nonsense, all of this "passion" or what the hell ever was going to disappear. Same thing happened to Kish. In fact, they weren't even allowed to kiss anymore. In my opinion the normal reaction of a twenty something gay guy in a relationship with his boyfriend for a couple of months after knowing his boyfriend is going to be father and he lies to him for quite some time about that is dropping him like a stone. As simple as that. And sorry, but that's not being selfish at all, is being smart, because the fact that your boyfriend slept with his ex because he was upset is a big big red sign, and the fact that he decides not to tell you the truth is not a good sing either, and the fact that he has no balls to defend what he thinks is better for the child and not assume his responsability is not a good sign either. And i'm pretty sure Sonny will dump Will, in fact, if he doesn't do it it will be totally out of character, because Sonny has hot temper, and he break up with Will after Will asked him for his sex life. And he reacted really really bad after their first kiss and Will rejected him (that doesn't make any sense at all, because it was supposed that Will had feelings for Sonny back then, but of course they need a lame excuse to start this awful storyline). So in my opinion Sonny will react very bad, first because i don't think he will like the fact that his boyfriend slept with a girl months after coming out, second because that girl is Gabi and he can't stand her and third because Will lied to him for quite some time. I think more sooner than later he will forgive Will and support him, but at first he will react bad. And i hope he will react bad, because if he is all comprehensive a supporting Will from minute one that only means that Sonny has no other purpose in the show that being Will's doormat[/b][/quote] This. Especially the bold section. I just think that this whole storyline will be all for nothing if Sonny just hunches his shoulders and supports Will right away after learning the truth. I at least want Sonny to have a few unsure days/weeks about what he wants to do next in regard to Will. Word. I mean, what would be the whole point of this storyline if Sonny doesn't get mad? What's the whole point of will lying if Sonny doesn't get mad? If he just nods his head and supports will, then we sat through all of this for nothing. And that will just show and prove that Sonny is will's doormat.
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Post by WillNSonny on Dec 28, 2012 19:58:21 GMT -5
where did you all see that sonny and will would be on Tuesday. I thought the spoilers said wednesday. I am not sure. Spoilers may still be out of wack because of the preemption. But looking at this page. Both spoilers sites match for Friday and others coincide. So I just thought maybe they were on Tuesday and Wed but hard to tell. daytimeroyaltyonline.com/topic/8764913/1/
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Post by bonniegirl on Dec 28, 2012 20:10:12 GMT -5
I would not be surprised if Sonny walked out on Will when he finds out what's been haunting Will. He will be hurt and/or angry. This will be a learning tool for Will. He is 19/20 years old, and I take that into account along with all he's gone through. I think a reality check is in order for him, but I don't wish the wrath of God on him. He is a good soul, misguided, yes, but he has a good heart. He is redeemable.
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