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Post by jjose712 on Sept 5, 2015 6:31:44 GMT -5
Even though I didn't come into this storyline tell later, but I did go back and watch Will coming out storyline with CM and I agree Sonny and Brian had chemistry and I was hoping they would go that way but you're right they quickly shut that relationship down. Sonny was there to prop up Will/CM character which reminded me so much of the Luke and Noah storyline on ATWT. They never gave Noah, his own story line which he did deserve and Noah was a great character. The problem soaps have with gay storylines is that they want to write a gay storyline not a storyline with a gay character, so they have their gay character and the rest goes around in circles around him. Will never was interesting enough to carry all the weight of the storyline, and of course not developing the rest of characters come with a cost. The other big problem is that they want to tell some things, and most of them are pretty obvious, so when you introduce a new character/obstacle (Bryan in this case) everybody knows what's going to happen (which never is a good thing)
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Post by dalphine on Sept 5, 2015 9:20:42 GMT -5
Even with gay characters I just want a good storyline just like everyone else it doesn't have to be a gay storyline just a good storyline that happen to have gay characters in it.
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Post by blake on Sept 5, 2015 17:31:07 GMT -5
I'm probably going to get a lot of back flash for this,but I'm sorry I'm going to state what is on mind.But I truly believe that Guy Wilson has been let go from the show and I will give my reasons. 1.)Guy was notorious about tweeting and posting things on his instagram accounts from back stage at Days and he hasn't done that in a while.
2.)He just announced on his Twitter account that he's producing a short film with one of his friends called Like Son Like Father it's about adoption.
Those are the two main reasons why I feel like he's been let go.Now I know that he tweeted a fan and said that he wasn't going know where,but I was thinking about that.He could been talking about Will saying that Will wouldn't get killed off,because there are rumors saying that Will leaves with Sami.I just don't know.
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Post by talula on Sept 6, 2015 5:38:23 GMT -5
I'm probably going to get a lot of back flash for this,but I'm sorry I'm going to state what is on mind.But I truly believe that Guy Wilson has been let go from the show and I will give my reasons. 1.)Guy was notorious about tweeting and posting things on his instagram accounts from back stage at Days and he hasn't done that in a while. 2.)He just announced on his Twitter account that he's producing a short film with one of his friends called Like Son Like Father it's about adoption. Those are the two main reasons why I feel like he's been let go.Now I know that he tweeted a fan and said that he wasn't going know where,but I was thinking about that.He could been talking about Will saying that Will wouldn't get killed off,because there are rumors saying that Will leaves with Sami.I just don't know. no surprise here, his presumable exit from Days been discussed for months on many soap boards, it just another confirmation that he is gone, Chris been seen on set recently so Paul is still there, but i wouldn't expect any gay storyline till next spring/summer,and despite my utter contempt for current Will' character i hope they're not gonna kill him off,it would be terribly wrong on so many levels
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Post by Zathras on Sept 6, 2015 9:36:45 GMT -5
That's not "confirmation" that he's gone. This is all still just speculation and rumor.
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Post by blake on Sept 6, 2015 10:36:57 GMT -5
That's not "confirmation" that he's gone. This is all still just speculation and rumor. You're absolutely right it's just speculation and a rumor at this point.I just find it weird that cast members are tweeting and posting pictures on instagram backstage and on set at Days and Guy hasn't done that in a while just saying.
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Post by talula on Sept 6, 2015 11:22:01 GMT -5
That's not "confirmation" that he's gone. This is all still just speculation and rumor. yup,but these speculations have a base,it's not just someone' wishful thinking or rumors from nowhere, Sonny will be briefly back in October,i think it's time when we get 'official' confirmation or a bit later
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Post by Zathras on Sept 9, 2015 19:26:07 GMT -5
Is there a good place to watch clips now? You can send something in a PM if you prefer. I don't know if Will or Paul have been on, but both channels I knew about have stopped. Thanks!
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Post by thestorm on Sept 9, 2015 20:57:00 GMT -5
Is there a good place to watch clips now? You can send something in a PM if you prefer. I don't know if Will or Paul have been on, but both channels I knew about have stopped. Thanks! I'm still uploading on Daily Motion: www.dailymotion.com/tulsastormIt has been a couple of weeks since Will and Paul have made an appearance, and that is probably a good thing now that there is a serial murderer on the loose in Salem.
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Post by Zathras on Sept 10, 2015 19:13:04 GMT -5
Thank you!
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Post by seanny on Sept 15, 2015 22:30:41 GMT -5
Hey guys, I met Jen Lilley this past Saturday at a concert in NY. It was kind of random because I was not expecting to see any celebrities other than the headliner but apparently the singer is a big DOOL fan. She knew that Jen was in town so she invited her to watch the show and then join her on stage for a duet. Jen was nervous but did a great job. After the show, I told my friend that I had to meet Jen so we went over to the table where she was sitting. I introduced myself and my friend to Jen. Gosh, she was so friendly and engaging. I didn't ask her for any spoilers. I mostly talked about loving her on GH and then Days and her working EM. Next, I mentioned to Jen that I really missed Freddie. She said she does too and also.....Chandler. I then said that I like another male actor on the show personally, but I do not enjoy his portrayal of his character to which Jen replied "Neither do I". That caught me off guard and I said "Well I hear he's been 86ed". Jen didn't know what that meant so I just said he's gone already to which she said "I can't comment on that" with a laugh. I got my picture taken with her and then left with my buddy who had no idea who JL was. I still can't believe how friendly and approachable Jen was and was in no hurry to end the conversation even though she had a bunch of friends with her.
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Post by justinate on Sept 19, 2015 13:07:40 GMT -5
I then said that I like another male actor on the show personally, but I do not enjoy his portrayal of his character to which Jen replied "Neither do I". That caught me off guard and I said "Well I hear he's been 86ed". Jen didn't know what that meant so I just said he's gone already to which she said "I can't comment on that" with a laugh. If this anecdote is true, I'm incredibly disappointed to hear such a viewpoint expressed by Jen Lilley of all people. Before she came to Days, she'd been hired by General Hospital as a recast for Maxie Jones, whose previous portrayer was very popular, and found herself at the centre of a massive fan backlash. It was no fault of her own but she was the target of very personal attacks about her looks and talent. That's pretty much the identical scenario in which Guy found himself at the start of 2014 when he replaced Chandler. To top it all off, Jen's current character is very polarizing, much like Will; in fact, Theresa's crimes are far more numerous and severe, with such outright villainy as beating veteran character John into a coma and nearly killing him. Yet despite these parallels with Guy, Jen allegedly criticizes his portrayal of Will. I used to have incredible sympathy for her, as well as respect for how she handled the undeserved abuse. With the exception of big stars, actors rarely get to pick and choose the roles they get, nor influence how those roles are written. She should know that better than most in the soap world. Apparently not.
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Post by stormymac on Sept 19, 2015 13:20:05 GMT -5
I then said that I like another male actor on the show personally, but I do not enjoy his portrayal of his character to which Jen replied "Neither do I". That caught me off guard and I said "Well I hear he's been 86ed". Jen didn't know what that meant so I just said he's gone already to which she said "I can't comment on that" with a laugh. If this anecdote is true, I'm incredibly disappointed to hear such a viewpoint expressed by Jen Lilley of all people. Before she came to Days, she'd been hired by General Hospital as a recast for Maxie Jones, whose previous portrayer was very popular, and found herself at the centre of a massive fan backlash. It was no fault of her own but she was the target of very personal attacks about her looks and talent. That's pretty much the identical scenario in which Guy found himself at the start of 2014 when he replaced Chandler. To top it all off, Jen's current character is very polarizing, much like Will; in fact, Theresa's crimes are far more numerous and severe, with such outright villainy as beating veteran character John into a coma and nearly killing him. Yet despite these parallels with Guy, Jen allegedly criticizes his portrayal of Will. I used to have incredible sympathy for her, as well as respect for how she handled the undeserved abuse. With the exception of big stars, actors rarely get to pick and choose the roles they get, nor influence how those roles are written. She should know that better than most in the soap world. Apparently not. AMEN!!
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Post by seanny on Sept 19, 2015 23:57:23 GMT -5
I then said that I like another male actor on the show personally, but I do not enjoy his portrayal of his character to which Jen replied "Neither do I". That caught me off guard and I said "Well I hear he's been 86ed". Jen didn't know what that meant so I just said he's gone already to which she said "I can't comment on that" with a laugh. If this anecdote is true, I'm incredibly disappointed to hear such a viewpoint expressed by Jen Lilley of all people. Before she came to Days, she'd been hired by General Hospital as a recast for Maxie Jones, whose previous portrayer was very popular, and found herself at the centre of a massive fan backlash. It was no fault of her own but she was the target of very personal attacks about her looks and talent. That's pretty much the identical scenario in which Guy found himself at the start of 2014 when he replaced Chandler. To top it all off, Jen's current character is very polarizing, much like Will; in fact, Theresa's crimes are far more numerous and severe, with such outright villainy as beating veteran character John into a coma and nearly killing him. Yet despite these parallels with Guy, Jen allegedly criticizes his portrayal of Will. I used to have incredible sympathy for her, as well as respect for how she handled the undeserved abuse. With the exception of big stars, actors rarely get to pick and choose the roles they get, nor influence how those roles are written. She should know that better than most in the soap world. Apparently not. I disagree with you. Actors are people with their own thoughts and opinions and besides Guy is no longer a co-worker. It's not like Jen openly criticized him either. She never even mentioned his name. Although of course she knew who I was talking about. As far as her time on GH, I don't recall a single complaint about Jen's acting ability during her run. What I do remember is her getting some of flack for her more toned down take on Maxie and that only came from diehard KS fans. For the most part Jen was praised for stepping in quickly and doing a great job over there.
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Post by dalphine on Sept 20, 2015 1:02:09 GMT -5
If this anecdote is true, I'm incredibly disappointed to hear such a viewpoint expressed by Jen Lilley of all people. Before she came to Days, she'd been hired by General Hospital as a recast for Maxie Jones, whose previous portrayer was very popular, and found herself at the centre of a massive fan backlash. It was no fault of her own but she was the target of very personal attacks about her looks and talent. That's pretty much the identical scenario in which Guy found himself at the start of 2014 when he replaced Chandler. To top it all off, Jen's current character is very polarizing, much like Will; in fact, Theresa's crimes are far more numerous and severe, with such outright villainy as beating veteran character John into a coma and nearly killing him. Yet despite these parallels with Guy, Jen allegedly criticizes his portrayal of Will. I used to have incredible sympathy for her, as well as respect for how she handled the undeserved abuse. With the exception of big stars, actors rarely get to pick and choose the roles they get, nor influence how those roles are written. She should know that better than most in the soap world. Apparently not. I disagree with you. Actors are people with their own thoughts and opinions and besides Guy is no longer a co-worker. It's not like Jen openly criticized him either. She never even mentioned his name. Although of course she knew who I was talking about. As far as her time on GH, I don't recall a single complaint about Jen's acting ability during her run. What I do remember is her getting some of flack for her more toned down take on Maxie and that only came from diehard KS fans. For the most part Jen was praised for stepping in quickly and doing a great job over there. I still think she should keep her mouth closed and said nothing. Even if she didn't say his name you knew who she meant.
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Post by mms575 on Sept 20, 2015 6:52:24 GMT -5
There were complaints about Jen Lilley's acting ability I was one of them. I wasn't the only either I remember Daytime Confidential getting on her for awhile they said the character should be send off-screen until KS came back or recast. She can say what she wants of course but It's weird she would talk about Guy when she has been in the place as him. Jen is one of the reasons I try to be easy on Guy I love her as Theresa but I still don't think she was a good Maxie Jones. I don't think Guy is a good Will but he may be good in a another role.
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Post by justinate on Sept 20, 2015 8:54:41 GMT -5
I disagree with you. Actors are people with their own thoughts and opinions and besides Guy is no longer a co-worker. It's not like Jen openly criticized him either. She never even mentioned his name. Although of course she knew who I was talking about. As far as her time on GH, I don't recall a single complaint about Jen's acting ability during her run. What I do remember is her getting some of flack for her more toned down take on Maxie and that only came from diehard KS fans. For the most part Jen was praised for stepping in quickly and doing a great job over there. I certainly don't disagree that actors are people, too, but that's precisely why I hoped Jen would have some empathy - a very human emotion - for Guy and the difficult position in which he found himself when he replaced Chandler through no fault of his own. I remember the backlash against Jen on GH very differently from you. The criticism levelled at her was absolutely vicious - perhaps even worse than what Guy has experienced. While a lot of the personal attacks focused on her looks, there was also more than a fair share about how she wasn't able to replicate the character's personality and charm as portrayed by the previous actress. Both elements dominate the debate about Guy in the role of Will, too.
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Post by bajangal on Sept 20, 2015 10:24:12 GMT -5
Whether Jen Lilley had the same treatment as Guy Wilson by fans, she's still entitled to her opinion. We don't know what goes on behind the scenes. Many actors claim they are all on friendly terms and are like family. A lot of the time it's total BS. Actors are ppl first and foremost with flaws, opinions etc just like everybody else. Besides, her opinion is from an actor's pov plus she said it privately and didn't say it on social media. I really don't think you can compare fans treatment of Guy and Jen's honest opinion in a private conversation on the same level.
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Post by HQ75 on Sept 20, 2015 19:10:31 GMT -5
If any actor that worked on a show I produced criticized another actor from the show in public (past or present) they would be fired by me. It's like working for a brand. You don't diss the brand that is paying your salary. The show reps have said nothing about Guy Wilson, his job, his acting skills or his departure so the actors definitely should not be saying anything. While they are working for the show they a representing the show when they speak to the public whether they want to be or not. It's unprofessional and disrespectful.
Actors have a right to have opinions, they do not have a right to share them when it comes to representing their show. It's just a common courtesy that actors don't insult or undermine other actors particular actors they have worked with. It makes you seem catty and small.
On another note,
I do find it interesting how much gay blogs seem to love crazy female characters who do horrible things and are just generally a hot mess but they have no patience for any misteps on the part of gay male characters. I've seen so many comments and blog entrires on gay interest blogs and in soap forums about how much the gay men love Nicole, Kristen and Eve but they really want to have Will executed. LOL. It's bizarre.
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Post by meaghan on Sept 20, 2015 20:38:49 GMT -5
Yeah... I am very far from the biggest fan of Guy's acting, but Jen should not have said that. I realize it was in casual conversation and she didn't even say his name, but I think that was the wrong thing to do regardless.
It doesn't matter if she's a person like everyone else, she's employed by Days/NBC, and she said something negative about a coworker (who is still airing) to a "client", which in this case is a viewer. If I told a client of mine that one of my other coworkers sucks at his job, I'd get reprimanded or fired for that.
Now, if she's just saying it to her husband or something, have at it. She's free to express her opinion all she likes in that context. I complain to my friends and family about coworkers sometimes. But that's different. That's a personal relationship, not a business one.
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Post by bajangal on Sept 21, 2015 13:56:20 GMT -5
Oh please Hollywood is hardly a paragon of virtue one of the most deceptive secretive industries. I think it's refreshing that an actor has the balls to be honest in an industry that is full of lies secrets and cover ups. Good for her.
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Post by seanny on Sept 21, 2015 20:15:48 GMT -5
Yeah... I am very far from the biggest fan of Guy's acting, but Jen should not have said that. I realize it was in casual conversation and she didn't even say his name, but I think that was the wrong thing to do regardless. It doesn't matter if she's a person like everyone else, she's employed by Days/NBC, and she said something negative about a coworker (who is still airing) to a "client", which in this case is a viewer. If I told a client of mine that one of my other coworkers sucks at his job, I'd get reprimanded or fired for that. Now, if she's just saying it to her husband or something, have at it. She's free to express her opinion all she likes in that context. I complain to my friends and family about coworkers sometimes. But that's different. That's a personal relationship, not a business one. To be fair, Jen made it clear that her opinion of Guy was suppose to stay between the two of us. This was a private conversation even though we were in a public space. Perhaps it was wrong of me to post it in a public forum like this but I tend to think of us regulars here a small community of friends with the hopes that this minor information would go no further. Also, GW is no longer a co-worker of hers so IMO he is fair game to be commented on by the remaining cast - although I don't think it's a wise thing to do publicly still.
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Post by Zathras on Sept 21, 2015 21:07:35 GMT -5
Well ... it does sound like a private conversation, not exactly intended for general public consumption.
For what it's worth, the posts here are all public. Anybody can read anything posted here.
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Post by meaghan on Sept 21, 2015 21:12:36 GMT -5
Yeah... I am very far from the biggest fan of Guy's acting, but Jen should not have said that. I realize it was in casual conversation and she didn't even say his name, but I think that was the wrong thing to do regardless. It doesn't matter if she's a person like everyone else, she's employed by Days/NBC, and she said something negative about a coworker (who is still airing) to a "client", which in this case is a viewer. If I told a client of mine that one of my other coworkers sucks at his job, I'd get reprimanded or fired for that. Now, if she's just saying it to her husband or something, have at it. She's free to express her opinion all she likes in that context. I complain to my friends and family about coworkers sometimes. But that's different. That's a personal relationship, not a business one. To be fair, Jen made it clear that her opinion of Guy was suppose to stay between the two of us. This was a private conversation even though we were in a public space. Perhaps it was wrong of me to post it in a public forum like this but I tend to think of us regulars here a small community of friends with the hopes that this minor information would go no further. Also, GW is no longer a co-worker of hers so IMO he is fair game to be commented on by the remaining cast - although I don't think it's a wise thing to do publicly still. To be honest, I don't think you were under any obligation not to share the conversation, you are just a fan. I still think she shouldn't have said it, but I don't think you did anything wrong. You are not employed by the show - she is. My point about it being a coworker has more to do with the fact that Guy is still on air. I still don't think she should say things like that regardless, but when the person in question is still possibly a draw for the show, it's even worse than speaking about them after the fact. Also, however minor and veiled it may have been, gossiping negatively does not make her look like a good representative of her show. There must have been a reason TPTB hired Guy and thought him capable of the job. Not only is she saying she doesn't like his acting, but it doesn't show confidence in the folks who hired him - which was the same regime that hired her. What does that say about her own talents? Any way you look at it, I just think that wasn't the right thing to do (on her part).
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Post by jason47 on Sept 30, 2015 19:30:48 GMT -5
SEPTEMBER 2015 EPISODE RANKINGS & STATS:DAILY CAST CHART: Review each day's cast list from September 2015 at www.jason47.com/days/castcharts2015.html2015 Episode Rankings. Here's how many episodes each actor has appeared in this year (1/1/15-9/30/15), out of a total of 190 episodes. For the complete list, please visit www.jason47.com. Rank. Actor (Character) # of Episodes1. Billy Flynn (Chad DiMera) 105 2. Kate Mansi (Abigail Deveraux) 102 *. Arianne Zucker (Nicole Walker) 102 4. Shawn Christian (Daniel Jonas) 99 5. Guy Wilson (Will Horton) 98 6. Eric Martsolf (Brady Black) 91 *. Casey Moss (J.J. Deveraux) 91 8. Melissa Archer (Serena Mason) 90 9. Jen Lilley (Theresa Donovan) 89 10. Greg Vaughan (Eric Brady) 88 September Episode Rankings. Here's how many episodes each actor has appeared in this month (9/1/15-9/30/15), out of a total of 21 episodes. For the complete list, please visit www.jason47.comRank. Actor (Character) # of Episodes1. Galen Gering (Rafe Hernandez) 16 2. Billy Flynn (Chad DiMera) 14 3. Mary Beth Evans (Kayla Brady) 13 *. Stephen Nichols (Steve Johnson) 13 5. Kristian Alfonso (Hope Brady) 12 *. Daniel Cosgrove (Aiden Jennings) 12 *. Wally Kurth (Justin Kiriakis) 12 8. Deidre Hall (Marlena Evans) 11 *. Kate Mansi (Abigail Deveraux) 11 *. Robert Scott Wilson (Ben Weston) 11 SET TOTALS: September 2015Horton Town Square...18 Club TBD...17 Nurses' Station...17 Interrogation Room...15 Kiriakis Mansion...14 Horton Town Square Private Area...13 Ben's Apartment...10 DiMera Study...10 Detective Area...9 Kayla's Office...8 Prison...8 Eve's Apartment...5 Horton Living Room...5 Industrial Dock...5 Old Mansion...5 Hope's House...4 Marlena's Office...4 Marlena's Townhouse...4 Park...4 Stefano's Hospital Room...4 Brady Pub (Booth only)...3 Fishing Shack...3 Kiriakis Jet...3 Paige's Dorm Room (Shower Area)...3 Chad's Hotel Room...2 Chad's Jail Cell...2 Hospital Corridor in Nurses' Station...2 Kiriakis Jet (Closet Area)...2 Kyle's Apartment...2 Paige's Dorm Room...2 Abandoned OR...1 Aiden's Office...1 Chad's Office (TBD)...1 Edge of the Square...1 Eric's Apartment...1 Eve's Apartment (Elevator Area)...1 Hope's Bedroom...1 Hope's Office...1 John's Office...1 Marlena's Bedroom...1 Marlena's Hospital Room...1 Marlena's Office (Closet Area)...1 Morgue...1 Nice Dock...1 Nicole's Office...1 Roman's Office...1 DIRECTORS & SCRIPT WRITERS:9/1/15: Scott McKinsey & Jeanne Marie Ford 9/2/15: Steven Williford & David Cherrill 9/3/15: Steven Williford & Danielle Paige 9/4/15: Albert Alarr & Melissa Salmons 9/8/15: Grant A. Johnson & Jeanne Marie Ford 9/9/15: Grant A. Johnson & Jeanne Marie Ford 9/10/15: Noel Maxam & Richard Culliton 9/11/15: Noel Maxam & David Cherrill 9/14/15: Noel Maxam & Melissa Salmons 9/15/15: Steven Williford & David Cherrill 9/16/15: Steven Williford & Carolyn Culliton 9/17/15: Grant A. Johnson & Carolyn Culliton 9/18/15: Steven Williford & David Cherrill 9/21/15: Herb Stein & Melissa Salmons 9/22/15: Steven Williford & Jeanne Marie Ford 9/23/15: Noel Maxam & Danielle Paige 9/24/15: Steven Williford & Richard Culliton 9/25/15: Steven Williford & Carolyn Culliton 9/28/15: Grant A. Johnson & David Cherrill 9/29/15: Steven Williford & David Cherrill 9/30/15: Steven Williford & Melissa Salmons www.jason47.com
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