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Post by sonia38 on May 11, 2012 5:40:38 GMT -5
Damn Jo looks hot in that wig.
Is he suppose to look like clarissa or a throwback to George Harrison.
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Post by zagara on May 11, 2012 6:36:52 GMT -5
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Post by Trish on May 11, 2012 7:39:09 GMT -5
Thanks for the info. You mean to tell me that Charlie wants Ricardo over Frank? To think that I thought Charlie was smart, but I guess they need something for Ricardo to do, since he has bombed with everyone else they have paired him with and Charlie and Helena are the only women left that arned occupied.
Emillo's getting another story? He's entertaining, but just on the side. I could care less if he and the teens are trying to find their place in the world.
Loved Jo in the wig. Nice to see him doing the clipping since he's off the show for a little bit. Will this back and forth with Clarissa/Tanja ever stop?
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Post by lolaruns on May 11, 2012 8:10:50 GMT -5
I don't think that Ricardo bombed with anyone. Most people seemed to like him with Nico but that was kinda out of his/their hands. And most other thing weren't really allowed/supposed to develop. I think they want to establish Ricardo as a cad without giving him any *one* pairing. Kinda like Gregor was in the time between Sarah and Rebecca/Luise. Where he slept with Olivia and Miriam.
Overall Ricardo strikes me as extremely well liked among the viewers (particularly as the voice of sanity in Daniel/Jessica and with Timo). And it's not like he desperately needs a pairing since he has a "second leg" Timo's father-
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Post by Trish on May 11, 2012 8:23:11 GMT -5
Everyone needs some time of pairing in a soap, unless their older like Arno. That's what soaps are about. I wasn't saying that the pairings weren't liked, just that he had been paired with all the others.
He was the voice of reason, now that is over, he's being used in his other capacity, "cad" as you put it. He has slept with every available femaile, very much like Emillo did with the younger crowd.
I just liked Charlie with Frank, but also as usual, Frank was too nice and VL doesn't like nice. So Charlie has to get board and go the less plausibale pairing.
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Post by lolaruns on May 11, 2012 9:29:37 GMT -5
I dunno, I'm kinda glad for "free radicals". I think it's boring if everybody is too neatly paired up. For example, I'm starting to think Tristan was actually more likable for the half year or so where he didn't have a relationship and just did support in various stories. Or Helena when her story was just the accident stuff. Jessica didn't have a real pairing for ages. Andi hasn't had one in ages either. Tanja also went through a long period of having no real pairing. I don't think it's too bad.
I don't think that it's important that you have a pairing, it's just important that you have a story and Ricardo has Timo as his fallback. That's why he can "afford" not having a traditional pairing.
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Post by Trish on May 11, 2012 9:39:53 GMT -5
Even during Helena's accident s/l, Andi was kind of there. The story was what would happen when the s/l would end between the two. Andi, they just haven't deicide to put him in a s/l and instead are dealing with his brother. Jessica was a trouble maker and was used to mess up other relationships until now. The same with Tanja. Trouble makers are a different breed and don't tend to have long-term relationships.
Ricardo is a good guy and has been floating until they found somehting for him to do. Same with Charlie. From the pairing that VL has put together, it's obvious they agree with you, that neatly paired couples are boring. I just wish we could have seen more of Charlie/Frank before they broke them up. I said a while ago that things wouldn't work, because the nice guy never wins. That's why they keep messing with Tomas/Viktoria. Now that they decided to take Ansgar out of the picture, they are thrown back into the background.
The Charlie/Ricardo thing is weird, because she was in Majorca all that time and she never seemed taken with him. Now all of a sudden she's all swept up. However, it's been said many times that the VL way.
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Post by lolaruns on May 11, 2012 9:47:04 GMT -5
I think there is a very clear line between guest characters and regular characters. Frank/Charlie was never going to be a real thing just like Rebecca/cop lady would never be. From VL's pov those aren't "real" characters because they are around only for a while. You would never go to see them any more than you get to see the private life of Mrs. Lentil.
I think VL had has free flowing "cads" before, they are kinda the male equivalent to the Jessica/Olivia type of trouble maker.
To me Andi was essentially out of the story for almost half a year, from Helena breaking up with him to him having issues with Daniel Helena. And even when those stories "popped" he was barely in it at all. To me that is pretty much the same as him having no storyline. I'd say Ricardo's mini affairs, especially the one with Nico had at least as much depth as what Andi did since the end of the couple's therapy story.
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Post by Trish on May 11, 2012 10:57:34 GMT -5
I think of Friank more like Miri. So they could have shown more if they wanted to. They had him asking her to move in with him. So there obviously was something pretty major there, on his part if nothing else. Anyway, it doens't matter. They didn't and it appearsto be over. My point was, I liked Frank and I'm not looking forward to another falling in love with someone and dying to be with them when you can't. We just had that with Jessica and are getting that with Rebecca. I know it's "forbidden" love, but there's more ways for a love to be forbidden then they are giving us.
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Post by lolaruns on May 11, 2012 11:28:13 GMT -5
Miri to me is the perfect example of this attitude. Miri had been around a lot longer than Frank, she had been used for various mini Stories before like with Andi. She had a higher status, for example, she had a bio page on the official site and was included in the official press material. But she was still just a supporting/non real character.
Miriam and Rebecca were very popular, both online and with press. And Rebecca was single. And the actresses really liked it. But still it couldn't be because Miriam was just a supporting character and supporting characters can only be used for short affairs.
It was even more obvious with Miriam because it's not like they had Miribecca and then dropped it when something more forbidden came along (which let's face it, is the normal attitude of VL) like in the case with Charlie now. They dumped Miribecca for NOTHING. Rebecca had no story after that. No other love story waiting in the wings. She was just running around and being single which she could all have done just as easily with a mostly off screen girlfriend relationship along the lines of Thomas/Vicky. So what was the point of even breaking them up when they were popular and it didn't stand in the way of anything else? But they still did. Because to them side characters have lesser worth.
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Post by Tagro on May 11, 2012 11:46:59 GMT -5
Miri to me is the perfect example of this attitude. Miri had been around a lot longer than Frank, she had been used for various mini Stories before like with Andi. She had a higher status, for example, she had a bio page on the official site and was included in the official press material. But she was still just a supporting/non real character. Miriam and Rebecca were very popular, both online and with press. And Rebecca was single. And the actresses really liked it. But still it couldn't be because Miriam was just a supporting character and supporting characters can only be used for short affairs. It was even more obvious with Miriam because it's not like they had Miribecca and then dropped it when something more forbidden came along (which let's face it, is the normal attitude of VL) like in the case with Charlie now. They dumped Miribecca for NOTHING. Rebecca had no story after that. No other love story waiting in the wings. She was just running around and being single which she could all have done just as easily with a mostly off screen girlfriend relationship along the lines of Thomas/Vicky. So what was the point of even breaking them up when they were popular and it didn't stand in the way of anything else? But they still did. Because to them side characters have lesser worth. I really liked Miriam and Rebecca together and I was sad when their story ended like that. Too bad that VL (often) doesn't recognize gold when they have it... But just a question. Shouldn't this discussion be moved to the general thread?
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Post by bigbadboy on May 11, 2012 11:47:35 GMT -5
I will never get why Miriam was never a regular character. She's been there since the beginning and she is so freaking likeable they could have created some amazing storylines that would link her and everyone else in that overflowing apartment but noooo, that's not forbidden enough they brought in something called Timo, The other boy, the other girl and the other girl that isn't the first girl. I don't know their names and quite frankly I do not care. And then there's Andi who hasn't had a legit storyline in a year now. They are gonna put their best players in the back burner for these teenagers
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Post by 88chrolli on May 18, 2012 11:49:06 GMT -5
Wochenvorschau/Clipping with Chris for the next week.
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Post by Trish on May 18, 2012 12:28:01 GMT -5
Thanks. I guess with Olli gone, Chris is thrown into the role of BFF of Jessica.
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2012 13:42:04 GMT -5
Thanks. I guess with Olli gone, Chris is thrown into the role of BFF of Jessica. yeh, it seems so ;D but I think the right explanation we could hear in today's episode, when the authors this indirectly confirmed in the scene where Christian asks Jessica something like why all woman suddenly ask him for advice, and she said that it's because Olli isn't there for me , it has one positive side , those people who are used to bash Olli/Jessica scenes and thought how awful and unforgivable are Ollis scenes with her will finally stop with such comments
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Post by Trish on May 18, 2012 14:00:37 GMT -5
If this is the alternative, I guess so, but it doesn't make the Olli/Jessica scenes any better. Olli just seems like such an idiot with her. At least Chris recognizes that she's a pain.
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2012 14:17:42 GMT -5
If this is the alternative, I guess so, but it doesn't make the Olli/Jessica scenes any better. Olli just seems like such an idiot with her. At least Chris recognizes that she's a pain. yes she is a pain who needs his comforting and his relationship advices
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Post by zagara on May 25, 2012 5:36:52 GMT -5
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Post by Trish on May 25, 2012 7:16:25 GMT -5
Thanks so much. Chris seems to be knee deep in the Rebecca/Marlene thing and now Tristan is going to see him comforting Marlene. That can't be good.
Charlie seems to have gotten what she wants. She does seems happy, but I still know if Ilike her and Ricardo.
Why does Leonie want to be with Timo. He seems to do nothing but make her cry.
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Post by 88chrolli on May 25, 2012 8:06:00 GMT -5
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Post by 88chrolli on Jun 1, 2012 10:08:07 GMT -5
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Post by Trish on Jun 1, 2012 10:27:01 GMT -5
Thanks. Chris is right in the middle of the Marlene/Rebecca thing.
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Post by zagara on Jun 7, 2012 9:19:44 GMT -5
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Post by Trish on Jun 7, 2012 9:53:08 GMT -5
Daniel has a daughter? Who knew. Now Jessica/Daniel are getting another s/l and Chrolli are still without. How old is she anyway? Is she going to become like Jessica's sister. I can't exactly see her in a mothering role. She's no more than a teenager mentally herself.
More Charlie/Ricardo. So not into it. When I saw Frank the other day, I jsut thought of the missed possibilities. Charlie being involved with a cop is more ineresting than her being attracted to a younger man. Espceially since he was already almost killed in the line of duty once. An adult type of relationship, instead of another school girl type one.
Clarissa is really putting the screws to Tanja. How long has she been in those same clothes. Shouldn't they have given her her prison garb by now.
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Post by Tagro on Jun 7, 2012 16:34:46 GMT -5
What the hell happened to Christoph's forehead??? It looks like he had a big cut on it which was taped.
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